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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
May 23 2011 09:41 GMT
#15301
On May 23 2011 17:40 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 16:36 freelander wrote:
On May 23 2011 07:27 Kaniol wrote:
On May 23 2011 07:16 phyvo wrote:
I can't see how WW can beat solos with anti-healing abilities like Kat, Trist, or MF.

I've also heard that Ryze is impossible to lane against as WW because he will just root/Q kite you all day and you'll just never end up using your blood scent.

I also can't see how WW could possibly beat, say, Leblanc, who can silence and retreat pretty safely and craps on nearly everyone (even though she's bad later in the game).

It's funny because people always talk about "anti-healing abilities own vlad, ww, irelia etc" while it isn't entirely true. The correct statement is: "heal-reducing abilities make laning vs vlad etc easier". Just because ww heals half as much as usually doesn't stop him from taking 10-20% of your hp with each q.

Not to mention that he has suppression ulti, which means that ganking his lane is sooo much easier.

I didn't play solowick THAT much but so far the only time when i felt that i lost the lane cause of matchup was vs caitlyn


I lost to vladimir when he started with boots+3 pots once and I started with doran's ring and he danced very well


Yeah I feel a good vlad can beat a good ww since vlad's q range is a lot larger, and so he can just dance well and win the lane that way.



Nah boots first beats WW. Same with TF etc.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
May 23 2011 11:39 GMT
#15302
On May 23 2011 16:07 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 11:37 phyvo wrote:
Chu is now #1 solo queue.

Hotshot is #2 and #3.

Jiji is #4 and #5.

Chu now needs smurf to secure #2 slot.

glad hotshot getting raped by koreans

korea #1 rank trololol

Chu is Canadian
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 23 2011 11:54 GMT
#15303
On May 23 2011 17:18 Kaniol wrote:
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On May 23 2011 17:04 dnastyx wrote:
On May 23 2011 16:24 Kaniol wrote:
Interesting, usually at this time Riot posted the patch preview, but now they didn't even post new champ's skills. I wonder if we will have a patch tomorrow as usually or not


They said they're on a 3-week release cycle this time. Too lazy to find the thread zzz.

Oh thats interresting, is it gonna stay like that or just temporarily?


It's probably going to be like this for the next two champs because of Dreamhack. After that they will return to the 2 week cycle.

We're still getting a balance patch this week though.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
May 23 2011 12:27 GMT
#15304
Oh man so I tried out Jarvan today. First game ever with him and I end up crushing an Urgot in lane. Ended up carrying *and* being the tank. Who balanced this guy??
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
May 23 2011 12:33 GMT
#15305
On May 23 2011 21:27 Haemonculus wrote:
Oh man so I tried out Jarvan today. First game ever with him and I end up crushing an Urgot in lane. Ended up carrying *and* being the tank. Who balanced this guy??


This game gets so easy once you jump on FOTM trains, it's not even funny.

Also, you're late on this one. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23401 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 12:59:36
May 23 2011 12:34 GMT
#15306
On May 23 2011 21:27 Haemonculus wrote:
Oh man so I tried out Jarvan today. First game ever with him and I end up crushing an Urgot in lane. Ended up carrying *and* being the tank. Who balanced this guy??


Welcome to new generation bruisers, overpowered in all respects at all points of the game. Irelia jarvan rumble even renek the list goes on.

I'm rocking the UP bruisers atm; garen, udyr, morde, xin, nasus, etc. Heck, I don't even think they are UP, its just relative to the newer guys.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
May 23 2011 12:41 GMT
#15307
On May 23 2011 21:34 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 21:27 Haemonculus wrote:
Oh man so I tried out Jarvan today. First game ever with him and I end up crushing an Urgot in lane. Ended up carrying *and* being the tank. Who balanced this guy??


Welcome to new generation bruisers, overpowered in all respects at all points of the game. Irelia jarvan rumble even renek the list goes on.

I'm rocking the UP bruisers atm; garen, udyr, morde, xin, nasus, etc heck I don't even think they are UP, its just relative to the newer guys.

Zzzzz I know... it's really dumb imo. Early on at like level 4 or so I messed up a dodge and like derped right into his E. I started running, as usually when that happens, the ensuing Q's more or less healthbar me in two shots. Not for Jarman. I took 3 Q's and lost like 1/4 hp total. Lollll can do that all day COME HERE URGOT
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 23 2011 13:03 GMT
#15308
Jarman is so OP, I literally ran into 5 people my first time playing him last night and came out with half hp... only items I had were mercs, hog, randuins, and youmuus. They had a ton of magic damage on their team too, so IDK IDK IDK
:)
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
May 23 2011 13:57 GMT
#15309
The best think is they are like 'no he's totally fine'.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 23 2011 14:00 GMT
#15310
Jarvan's good unless he's in my team, in that case he can't lasthit at all and builds FoN -> Wits end and drops instantly in every teamfight
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 14:06:22
May 23 2011 14:05 GMT
#15311
On May 23 2011 23:00 Shikyo wrote:
Jarvan's good unless he's in my team, in that case he can't lasthit at all and builds FoN -> Wits end and drops instantly in every teamfight

You have a very negative influence on your team it seems.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
May 23 2011 14:09 GMT
#15312
Alright, time for another game of Ranked solo Q
If I lose, my elo will go down to 3 digits.
O_O
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 23 2011 14:13 GMT
#15313
On May 23 2011 23:09 Abenson wrote:
Alright, time for another game of Ranked solo Q
If I lose, my elo will go down to 3 digits.
O_O

That place is elo heaven.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 23 2011 14:24 GMT
#15314
On May 23 2011 23:05 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 23:00 Shikyo wrote:
Jarvan's good unless he's in my team, in that case he can't lasthit at all and builds FoN -> Wits end and drops instantly in every teamfight

You have a very negative influence on your team it seems.

Funny thing is that in ranked I always am really nice, when my team's losing(always) I always tell them that it's okay and that people just need to try hard, etc. But better not ask your jungler to gank in a perfect situation for it because then they go all emo and never gank your lane and you lose the game
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 23 2011 14:44 GMT
#15315
On May 23 2011 23:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 23:05 JackDino wrote:
On May 23 2011 23:00 Shikyo wrote:
Jarvan's good unless he's in my team, in that case he can't lasthit at all and builds FoN -> Wits end and drops instantly in every teamfight

You have a very negative influence on your team it seems.

Funny thing is that in ranked I always am really nice, when my team's losing(always) I always tell them that it's okay and that people just need to try hard, etc. But better not ask your jungler to gank in a perfect situation for it because then they go all emo and never gank your lane and you lose the game

You have this negative aura around you that affects your entire team no matter what you say.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 23 2011 14:59 GMT
#15316
Shikyo is an Elemental Avatar of Feeding. Anyone around him can't help but feed.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 23 2011 15:46 GMT
#15317
double philo lanewick is a god. If you open double faerie charm + 3 hp pots, basically no one can prevent you from farming up your first philo + boots, at which point you just curbstomp everyone's nuts with Ult -> Q LOLNOWISMELLYOUGOODLUCKRUNNING. Then you finish your 2nd philo, get sorc shoes -> Spirit Visage -> Sunfire -> w/e, usually triforce cuz I see lots of pros building triforce on everyone so it must be a good item.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 23 2011 15:47 GMT
#15318
On May 23 2011 23:00 Shikyo wrote:
Jarvan's good unless he's in my team, in that case he can't lasthit at all and builds FoN -> Wits end and drops instantly in every teamfight


hmm yeah you should stop building him that way
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 23 2011 15:58 GMT
#15319
So we all bitch about how OP is this or that hero
But what about the most OP team comp? i thought like throwing 5 OP chars would do it and we were like inventing all these op teams, that made me want to cry just hearing about them.
the most op i thought about was like
nidalee top
jarvan/alistar or tf mid
taric vayne bot
nunu jungle

each one has the potencial to completly rape their lane, amazing ganks and map control
and if it goes to late game, op heals and attack speed buffs on vayne make her even more op than she is curently
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
May 23 2011 16:19 GMT
#15320
My favorite two "OP" team comps are all global and all aoe. Neither are particularly difficult to counter, but in solo ranked if you can set it up, it's godlike.

All aoe:
Amumu
Galio
MF
Gangplank
Sona

All global:
Shen
TF
Pantheon
Nocturne
Soraka

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