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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 21:08:02
May 22 2011 21:07 GMT
#15261
The dota community has the flaw that its riddicolously hard to come in as a new player because very few people let people in. This system has dramatically improved with LoL / HoN
In the woods, there lurks..
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 22 2011 21:10 GMT
#15262
Wow, Kerp is 2015 elo now on EU. :/ 250 games played. Sighity sigh, how did he become soo good. I feel so bad ;_;
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
May 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#15263
Anyone feel that AP Alistar is really really strong?
Whaaaa?
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 22 2011 21:15 GMT
#15264
On May 23 2011 06:14 Misder wrote:
Anyone feel that AP Alistar is really really strong?

Yes.. Yes

2 Ap alistars, 1 day. Both game opposing team complain that AP alistar takes no skeelz and are "fucking imba"
In the woods, there lurks..
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 22 2011 21:17 GMT
#15265
On May 23 2011 06:10 Shikyo wrote:
Wow, Kerp is 2015 elo now on EU. :/ 250 games played. Sighity sigh, how did he become soo good. I feel so bad ;_;


Have you seen your post history?
It's all complaining about your teammates, I didn't think it would take so long to shift your focus.
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
May 22 2011 21:26 GMT
#15266
On May 23 2011 06:15 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 06:14 Misder wrote:
Anyone feel that AP Alistar is really really strong?

Yes.. Yes

2 Ap alistars, 1 day. Both game opposing team complain that AP alistar takes no skeelz and are "fucking imba"


AP Alistar is the strongest solo in the game right now IMO. W is risk-free harass essentially with sick AP ratios.
Derp
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 22 2011 21:28 GMT
#15267
On May 23 2011 06:26 ShoreT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 06:15 Iplaythings wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:14 Misder wrote:
Anyone feel that AP Alistar is really really strong?

Yes.. Yes

2 Ap alistars, 1 day. Both game opposing team complain that AP alistar takes no skeelz and are "fucking imba"


AP Alistar is the strongest solo in the game right now IMO. W is risk-free harass essentially with sick AP ratios.

I havent played top lane spamm in a while so I basically cant tell if youre right or not haha, havent even done solo lane with him since the buff (i pulled it off before his revamp though)
In the woods, there lurks..
Crazyspoon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States50 Posts
May 22 2011 21:51 GMT
#15268
On May 23 2011 06:07 Iplaythings wrote:
The dota community has the flaw that its riddicolously hard to come in as a new player because very few people let people in. This system has dramatically improved with LoL / HoN


A thousand times this. Learning dota involved making multiple bnet accounts to deal with getting widespread banned/blacklisted while learning the game. Also included dramatically more rage from teammates/enemies, as the game can be easily decided within the first 10 minutes. In my experience, the only time this rolls over into LoL is if trying custom games (ARAM) before 30. The rage/blaming/trolling seems equal in both games; the difference is in dota, its somewhat more justified, as just 5 early kills can end the game. In exchange, LoL is less about kill counts and more about pushing lanes and killing towers (lost a normal yesterday that was 64-36 in our favor).

The best thing to say to a new player that I haven't read in this thread yet is that league is like playing poker. Based on the luck of matchmaking, you need to take satisfaction in outplaying your opponents rather than satisfaction from strictly winning, as some hands/teams are very difficult to win with.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 22 2011 22:11 GMT
#15269
warwick is one of the best solos atm, cant think of anything really that can beat him. makes ganks really easy on your lane too
Brees on in
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 22 2011 22:16 GMT
#15270
I can't see how WW can beat solos with anti-healing abilities like Kat, Trist, or MF.

I've also heard that Ryze is impossible to lane against as WW because he will just root/Q kite you all day and you'll just never end up using your blood scent.

I also can't see how WW could possibly beat, say, Leblanc, who can silence and retreat pretty safely and craps on nearly everyone (even though she's bad later in the game).
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 22:33:46
May 22 2011 22:27 GMT
#15271
On May 23 2011 07:16 phyvo wrote:
I can't see how WW can beat solos with anti-healing abilities like Kat, Trist, or MF.

I've also heard that Ryze is impossible to lane against as WW because he will just root/Q kite you all day and you'll just never end up using your blood scent.

I also can't see how WW could possibly beat, say, Leblanc, who can silence and retreat pretty safely and craps on nearly everyone (even though she's bad later in the game).

It's funny because people always talk about "anti-healing abilities own vlad, ww, irelia etc" while it isn't entirely true. The correct statement is: "heal-reducing abilities make laning vs vlad etc easier". Just because ww heals half as much as usually doesn't stop him from taking 10-20% of your hp with each q.

Not to mention that he has suppression ulti, which means that ganking his lane is sooo much easier.

I didn't play solowick THAT much but so far the only time when i felt that i lost the lane cause of matchup was vs caitlyn
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 22 2011 22:32 GMT
#15272
On May 23 2011 07:16 phyvo wrote:
I can't see how WW can beat solos with anti-healing abilities like Kat, Trist, or MF.

I've also heard that Ryze is impossible to lane against as WW because he will just root/Q kite you all day and you'll just never end up using your blood scent.

I also can't see how WW could possibly beat, say, Leblanc, who can silence and retreat pretty safely and craps on nearly everyone (even though she's bad later in the game).


if warwick makes the other team pick one of those heroes, probably even better for you. Only ones decent there are tristana and ryze. I could see tristana as basically the only legit counter to ww with her range, but ryze definitely not. Doesnt do enough damage to prevent you from last hitting pretty much whatever you want and with a gank at 6 hes dead
Brees on in
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
May 22 2011 23:13 GMT
#15273
On May 23 2011 06:26 ShoreT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 06:15 Iplaythings wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:14 Misder wrote:
Anyone feel that AP Alistar is really really strong?

Yes.. Yes

2 Ap alistars, 1 day. Both game opposing team complain that AP alistar takes no skeelz and are "fucking imba"


AP Alistar is the strongest solo in the game right now IMO. W is risk-free harass essentially with sick AP ratios.

lol. Clearly you haven't solo laned vs. Rumble then, he's going to zone your ass so hard if you play as Alistar vs. him.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
May 23 2011 00:24 GMT
#15274
Q_Q
GUYS HELP ME
I'm AT 1k ELO NOW
T________________________________T
(1020 elo)
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
May 23 2011 01:14 GMT
#15275
Get good at typing a lot of shit fast. I recommend Janna, as you can actually type commands to your team while casting 'nado/shield ezpz.

Also, just be zen and try not to think about ratings and shit while playing. I really believe that good calls and some decent shouting to your teammates goes a long way.
So zen.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 23 2011 01:44 GMT
#15276
On May 23 2011 09:24 Abenson wrote:
Q_Q
GUYS HELP ME
I'm AT 1k ELO NOW
T________________________________T
(1020 elo)


1k ELO is a totally different game than mid ELO. The only way to effectively get out of 1k ELO would be to play someone that can 1v5, because depending on teammates for anything is suicide. Get a tanky DPS like Irelia or Jarvan, that should do the trick. Try not to jungle either. If you jungle, you will lose your lanes before you are able to gank. If you lane, you will zone the enemy out and destroy their tower as well.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 23 2011 02:37 GMT
#15277
Chu is now #1 solo queue.

Hotshot is #2 and #3.

Jiji is #4 and #5.

Chu now needs smurf to secure #2 slot.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 23 2011 03:13 GMT
#15278
How do you beat Sona Alistar in duo lane on TT?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 23 2011 03:35 GMT
#15279
On May 23 2011 12:13 57 Corvette wrote:
How do you beat Sona Alistar in duo lane on TT?


That seems pretty broken, I think your best bet is to three man gank sona a few times
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
May 23 2011 04:45 GMT
#15280
Anyone got an up to date Nocturne jungle guide? I found TheOddOne's on solomid, but there are some comments saying recent nerfs might make it not effective in the early jungle part?

Thanks in advance.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
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