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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 23 2011 05:31 GMT
#15281
Well, his wolf->wraith->double gol path is REALLY unsafe now with the nerfs. Like, you'll finish double gol with very, very little HP if you're not running optimal runes. You can try having someone pull double golems for you and doing the camps in reverse order, or do the usual blue leash path.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 23 2011 05:46 GMT
#15282
On May 23 2011 12:35 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:13 57 Corvette wrote:
How do you beat Sona Alistar in duo lane on TT?


That seems pretty broken, I think your best bet is to three man gank sona a few times

It is undtil you try laning against blitz / alistar.

Soraka Ashe/Singed is a real pain too, so much poking power...
In the woods, there lurks..
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
May 23 2011 06:04 GMT
#15283
Soraka vayne
true poking power
Hey! Listen!
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 06:37:20
May 23 2011 06:36 GMT
#15284
On May 23 2011 10:44 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 09:24 Abenson wrote:
Q_Q
GUYS HELP ME
I'm AT 1k ELO NOW
T________________________________T
(1020 elo)


1k ELO is a totally different game than mid ELO. The only way to effectively get out of 1k ELO would be to play someone that can 1v5, because depending on teammates for anything is suicide. Get a tanky DPS like Irelia or Jarvan, that should do the trick. Try not to jungle either. If you jungle, you will lose your lanes before you are able to gank. If you lane, you will zone the enemy out and destroy their tower as well.


Normal people's problem:
In 1k elo everyone complains about feeding noobs that just suicide-dash into their team 1v5, and they proceed to lose the game.

My problem:
I AM the feeding noob.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 23 2011 07:07 GMT
#15285
On May 23 2011 11:37 phyvo wrote:
Chu is now #1 solo queue.

Hotshot is #2 and #3.

Jiji is #4 and #5.

Chu now needs smurf to secure #2 slot.

glad hotshot getting raped by koreans

korea #1 rank trololol
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 23 2011 07:12 GMT
#15286
On May 23 2011 15:36 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:44 Chairman Ray wrote:
On May 23 2011 09:24 Abenson wrote:
Q_Q
GUYS HELP ME
I'm AT 1k ELO NOW
T________________________________T
(1020 elo)


1k ELO is a totally different game than mid ELO. The only way to effectively get out of 1k ELO would be to play someone that can 1v5, because depending on teammates for anything is suicide. Get a tanky DPS like Irelia or Jarvan, that should do the trick. Try not to jungle either. If you jungle, you will lose your lanes before you are able to gank. If you lane, you will zone the enemy out and destroy their tower as well.


Normal people's problem:
In 1k elo everyone complains about feeding noobs that just suicide-dash into their team 1v5, and they proceed to lose the game.

My problem:
I AM the feeding noob.

Lol...I just had a game where I did exactly that on Lanemumu.
Except it was on their turret.
And I forgot I didn't have my ult.
And I didn't die.
And I'm 1200.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
May 23 2011 07:24 GMT
#15287
Interesting, usually at this time Riot posted the patch preview, but now they didn't even post new champ's skills. I wonder if we will have a patch tomorrow as usually or not
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 23 2011 07:36 GMT
#15288
On May 23 2011 07:27 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 07:16 phyvo wrote:
I can't see how WW can beat solos with anti-healing abilities like Kat, Trist, or MF.

I've also heard that Ryze is impossible to lane against as WW because he will just root/Q kite you all day and you'll just never end up using your blood scent.

I also can't see how WW could possibly beat, say, Leblanc, who can silence and retreat pretty safely and craps on nearly everyone (even though she's bad later in the game).

It's funny because people always talk about "anti-healing abilities own vlad, ww, irelia etc" while it isn't entirely true. The correct statement is: "heal-reducing abilities make laning vs vlad etc easier". Just because ww heals half as much as usually doesn't stop him from taking 10-20% of your hp with each q.

Not to mention that he has suppression ulti, which means that ganking his lane is sooo much easier.

I didn't play solowick THAT much but so far the only time when i felt that i lost the lane cause of matchup was vs caitlyn


I lost to vladimir when he started with boots+3 pots once and I started with doran's ring and he danced very well
And all is illuminated.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 23 2011 07:49 GMT
#15289
On May 23 2011 16:36 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 07:27 Kaniol wrote:
On May 23 2011 07:16 phyvo wrote:
I can't see how WW can beat solos with anti-healing abilities like Kat, Trist, or MF.

I've also heard that Ryze is impossible to lane against as WW because he will just root/Q kite you all day and you'll just never end up using your blood scent.

I also can't see how WW could possibly beat, say, Leblanc, who can silence and retreat pretty safely and craps on nearly everyone (even though she's bad later in the game).

It's funny because people always talk about "anti-healing abilities own vlad, ww, irelia etc" while it isn't entirely true. The correct statement is: "heal-reducing abilities make laning vs vlad etc easier". Just because ww heals half as much as usually doesn't stop him from taking 10-20% of your hp with each q.

Not to mention that he has suppression ulti, which means that ganking his lane is sooo much easier.

I didn't play solowick THAT much but so far the only time when i felt that i lost the lane cause of matchup was vs caitlyn


I lost to vladimir when he started with boots+3 pots once and I started with doran's ring and he danced very well

pick gangplank
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 23 2011 07:57 GMT
#15290
On May 23 2011 16:49 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 16:36 freelander wrote:
On May 23 2011 07:27 Kaniol wrote:
On May 23 2011 07:16 phyvo wrote:
I can't see how WW can beat solos with anti-healing abilities like Kat, Trist, or MF.

I've also heard that Ryze is impossible to lane against as WW because he will just root/Q kite you all day and you'll just never end up using your blood scent.

I also can't see how WW could possibly beat, say, Leblanc, who can silence and retreat pretty safely and craps on nearly everyone (even though she's bad later in the game).

It's funny because people always talk about "anti-healing abilities own vlad, ww, irelia etc" while it isn't entirely true. The correct statement is: "heal-reducing abilities make laning vs vlad etc easier". Just because ww heals half as much as usually doesn't stop him from taking 10-20% of your hp with each q.

Not to mention that he has suppression ulti, which means that ganking his lane is sooo much easier.

I didn't play solowick THAT much but so far the only time when i felt that i lost the lane cause of matchup was vs caitlyn


I lost to vladimir when he started with boots+3 pots once and I started with doran's ring and he danced very well

pick gangplank

Could you write a guide plzplz?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 23 2011 08:04 GMT
#15291
how is opening pendant into philo on jungle amumu or any other hero that doesnt need razor?
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 23 2011 08:04 GMT
#15292
On May 23 2011 16:24 Kaniol wrote:
Interesting, usually at this time Riot posted the patch preview, but now they didn't even post new champ's skills. I wonder if we will have a patch tomorrow as usually or not


They said they're on a 3-week release cycle this time. Too lazy to find the thread zzz.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 23 2011 08:12 GMT
#15293
On May 23 2011 17:04 zulu_nation8 wrote:
how is opening pendant into philo on jungle amumu or any other hero that doesnt need razor?


the pendant opening sucks, just going cloth armor into philo is really good though
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
May 23 2011 08:18 GMT
#15294
On May 23 2011 17:04 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 16:24 Kaniol wrote:
Interesting, usually at this time Riot posted the patch preview, but now they didn't even post new champ's skills. I wonder if we will have a patch tomorrow as usually or not


They said they're on a 3-week release cycle this time. Too lazy to find the thread zzz.

Oh thats interresting, is it gonna stay like that or just temporarily?
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 23 2011 08:19 GMT
#15295
On May 23 2011 16:57 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 16:49 Caller wrote:
On May 23 2011 16:36 freelander wrote:
On May 23 2011 07:27 Kaniol wrote:
On May 23 2011 07:16 phyvo wrote:
I can't see how WW can beat solos with anti-healing abilities like Kat, Trist, or MF.

I've also heard that Ryze is impossible to lane against as WW because he will just root/Q kite you all day and you'll just never end up using your blood scent.

I also can't see how WW could possibly beat, say, Leblanc, who can silence and retreat pretty safely and craps on nearly everyone (even though she's bad later in the game).

It's funny because people always talk about "anti-healing abilities own vlad, ww, irelia etc" while it isn't entirely true. The correct statement is: "heal-reducing abilities make laning vs vlad etc easier". Just because ww heals half as much as usually doesn't stop him from taking 10-20% of your hp with each q.

Not to mention that he has suppression ulti, which means that ganking his lane is sooo much easier.

I didn't play solowick THAT much but so far the only time when i felt that i lost the lane cause of matchup was vs caitlyn


I lost to vladimir when he started with boots+3 pots once and I started with doran's ring and he danced very well

pick gangplank

Could you write a guide plzplz?

How Caller does it - open faerie charm x2 + pots; build boots 1 + 5 philos, afk farm until have 10k gold, sell philos and get full item build and 1v5 enemy team to victory.
:)
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 23 2011 08:21 GMT
#15296
the most important part of playing gangplank is making sure you are last pick and take teleport/exhaust as your summoners, also demand whichever lane vlad is in
Brees on in
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 08:22:33
May 23 2011 08:22 GMT
#15297
An alternative build is to build the philo into a reverie, which induces MOAR RAGE => more fun (then build more support items)

ps why am i still a fucking scv qq
:)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 23 2011 08:40 GMT
#15298
On May 23 2011 16:36 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 07:27 Kaniol wrote:
On May 23 2011 07:16 phyvo wrote:
I can't see how WW can beat solos with anti-healing abilities like Kat, Trist, or MF.

I've also heard that Ryze is impossible to lane against as WW because he will just root/Q kite you all day and you'll just never end up using your blood scent.

I also can't see how WW could possibly beat, say, Leblanc, who can silence and retreat pretty safely and craps on nearly everyone (even though she's bad later in the game).

It's funny because people always talk about "anti-healing abilities own vlad, ww, irelia etc" while it isn't entirely true. The correct statement is: "heal-reducing abilities make laning vs vlad etc easier". Just because ww heals half as much as usually doesn't stop him from taking 10-20% of your hp with each q.

Not to mention that he has suppression ulti, which means that ganking his lane is sooo much easier.

I didn't play solowick THAT much but so far the only time when i felt that i lost the lane cause of matchup was vs caitlyn


I lost to vladimir when he started with boots+3 pots once and I started with doran's ring and he danced very well


Yeah I feel a good vlad can beat a good ww since vlad's q range is a lot larger, and so he can just dance well and win the lane that way.

"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 23 2011 08:50 GMT
#15299
On May 23 2011 17:04 zulu_nation8 wrote:
how is opening pendant into philo on jungle amumu or any other hero that doesnt need razor?

I have been playing Amumu in a couple of normals to practice him (barely ever played him before), and I always opened Regrowth->Philo. Feels pretty decent so far, going blue wolves wraiths smallgols, shop Philo. Probably not very useful for early ganks though.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 09:01:21
May 23 2011 08:59 GMT
#15300
chu8 #2 on soloq ladder
hotshot below 2400

wat happened

chu8... #2... wat

edit: chu8 #1
:)
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