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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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KOPF
Finland164 Posts
On May 24 2011 19:25 emucxg wrote: LoL community site similar to http://www.teamliquidpro.com/ what you guys think Sounds cool. I'm in for the HTML/CSS and graphics for it if needed. ^__^ | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
most people can only afford pages | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
Its a real shame though, Alistar and vayne are pretty much perma banned in ranked on EU and normals bore me.. so yeah  Small nerf plx | ||
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Psyqo
United States401 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On May 24 2011 22:54 Shikyo wrote: So did you know Vayne Q can crit? The bonus dmg too, I mean It's not bonus damage. It doesn't add x% of your AD as bonus damage. It increases the damage your next attack deals by x%. So if it crits, it the total damage dealt is increased by x%. Clear now? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Behold the power of the commutative and associative properties of multiplication! | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Burst would be something with a Trinity Force and then apen like black cleaver, maybe youmu or something. Aspd would be BR, Wits end, Sotd etc. Tanky would pretty much be just BR -> Tank, should be really strong and efficient. Triforce -> tank might also be useful crit-based would involve IE, a decent idea would be a cloak and dagger -> IE -> LW type of a build, this would take advantage of Q critting. | ||
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 25 2011 01:06 Lanzoma wrote: Unless me and Yango are having shared delusions, Q doesn't crit. In the case of a crit, only the base damage is affected by the crit. I'm pretty sure as this was the first thing we tested after I bought her. That's really strange o.O I need to test it again, it seems... And as for why I think that, in a game with 197 attack dmg I Q'd minions for 510 with trinity force and 850 when it crit | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On May 24 2011 18:21 spinesheath wrote: If you use an AD page, you are WAY better off getting a Brutalizer first. In any case you are hurting yourself a lot by not getting IE first. Games are decided around 20 minutes (or earlier), and that's when you typically get your IE if it's your first big item. Early LW just doesn't do much at all. At level 9 or so, people have like 50 armor. LW cuts 20 from that. And really, rush IE on Ashe. i think you have it the other way around my friend, you would want brutalizer if you already have the 25 armor pen, since you either want to go pure flat armor pen(use this against squishier teams) or I take the AD page vs tankier teams. Getting an IE really doesnt do much when they have fags like jarman and irelia with 100+ armor already | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On May 25 2011 02:02 Mogwai wrote: on hit bonus damage procs don't add damage to crits. it's the same with fucking everything from sheen to siphoning strike to takedown, they all interact with crit the same. the crit bonus just uses your attack damage. ^ This. Damage from Vayne's Q critting = (AD x2) + Tumble damage bonus On May 25 2011 03:20 Brees wrote: i think you have it the other way around my friend, you would want brutalizer if you already have the 25 armor pen, since you either want to go pure flat armor pen(use this against squishier teams) or I take the AD page vs tankier teams. Getting an IE really doesnt do much when they have fags like jarman and irelia with 100+ armor already Not true. As far as autoattacks are concerned, Armor Pen % is a good endgame stat to synergize with large amounts of AD, AS and crit chance vs. enemies with tons of armor- it's not super efficient vs. 100 armor targets at that stage of the game. Example: Let's say you have 100 AD, your target has 100 armor. You shoot, you deal 50 damage. Now, you get a Last Whisper. 140 AD vs. effective armor of 60 = 87.5 damage, so a 37.5 damage gain per shot for 2290g. If you'd gotten an IE instead, you'd have 180 AD with a 25% crit chance; average damage per shot will be (180*.75 + 180*2.5*0.25) 247, vs. armor 100, you get 123.75 average damage per shot, so a 73.75 damage gain for 3830g -> 17% more efficient than Last Whisper per gold spent vs. 100 armor targets, and a lot more efficient than that vs. any enemy squishies. -- To be fair, the above analysis assumes autoattacks. Last Whisper comes out WAY ahead on efficiency if you want to boost the damage for Volley, Piltover Peacemaker, etc. vs. 100 armor targets, because they have a significant damage bonus that benefits from the %pen from LW but they can't crit. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:20 Brees wrote: i think you have it the other way around my friend, you would want brutalizer if you already have the 25 armor pen, since you either want to go pure flat armor pen(use this against squishier teams) or I take the AD page vs tankier teams. Getting an IE really doesnt do much when they have fags like jarman and irelia with 100+ armor already Well ultimately only math can decide who is right here, and I'm not going through that now. My point still is: Early LW is not efficient, and IE is the way to go on on both Ashe and Cait right now. | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
ex: Lux 1.0 Lux 2.0 | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
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