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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
It's just that if you kill him he still can deal a lot of damage for the 6 seconds (was it 6 sec?  ) and if you don't he will pentakill your team anyway because he deals huge DPS and magical DPS is always annoying (banshee doesn't protect from it as well and he can hit tanks if nothing else is in range without regretting it 3 seconds later when carry comes in range)BTW page 700 wooow, we sure do tlak a lot here  | ||
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dismiss
United Kingdom3341 Posts
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
EDIT: I guess Anivia and Cass come close in terms of DPS | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
On May 05 2011 15:09 petered wrote: Ranged suppression (malz) How is it reasonable to have an ability that most champs have absolutely no way of getting out of unless they have a QSS(which will put most of those champs behind on their builds quite a bit). Tell me malz players, do you feel skilled when you r click on a champ and set up the easiest gank in the history of ganks? So have a teammate use an interrupt? It's not like a competent team would ever let Nunu get a full ult off, so why would you ignore the Malz in a practically identical situation? | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
But I think maybe the shield lets him stay in the middle of everyone longer? And the CC keeps enemies in it? I don't know, lol, but I've heard janna + karth is good from other places too =/ | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On May 05 2011 22:41 unichan wrote: I see Jannas fail a lot blowing the enemy team out of Karth's e circle But I think maybe the shield lets him stay in the middle of everyone longer? And the CC keeps enemies in it? I don't know, lol, but I've heard janna + karth is good from other places too =/ If you are in the middle of the fight and don't have 200+ Armor and MRes, a Janna Shield will allow you to live approximately 0.1 second longer. The only thing I can imagine: Janna prevents Karth from getting picked off before the fight even starts. | ||
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Unentschieden
Germany1471 Posts
On May 05 2011 20:59 dnastyx wrote: The reason why Karthus is scary is because he has the most bullshit AoE slow in the game, combined with the highest potential DPS of any AP carry. EDIT: I guess Anivia and Cass come close in terms of DPS Actually Cassiopea deals even more damage but her slow isn´t as good and is a LOT harder to place. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 05 2011 21:09 Craton wrote: Only way to really deal with Karthus is to instantly kill him then move your entire team away and re-engage, but gl accomplishing that in solo queue. Doesn't help that even a moderately fed/farmed karthus does like half a carry's hp bar in one ult and veil usually gets popped during the course of a team fight before he ults. So have a teammate use an interrupt? It's not like a competent team would ever let Nunu get a full ult off, so why would you ignore the Malz in a practically identical situation? Nah, malzahar is currently the most OP AP caster even in high elo, BUT in addition to that hes a low elo dominator. Completely broken On May 05 2011 23:03 spinesheath wrote: If you are in the middle of the fight and don't have 200+ Armor and MRes, a Janna Shield will allow you to live approximately 0.1 second longer. The only thing I can imagine: Janna prevents Karth from getting picked off before the fight even starts. That strategy is so good. Have insane AP as karthus, die at the start of the battle, deal imba deeps without being able to be CCd out of doing it, then revive-teleport and clean up. So good | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
By "punishing people for playing risky" I meant that the most exciting part of this game is getting into duels/skirmishes where you out micro your opponent and just barely kill them before they kill you. I don't mean risky in the sense of stupidly pushing your lane or things like that, but getting kills and ending up at low health. His ult means you can't risk getting a kill when it might result in you at low health since he can hit r and you are dead. | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
CasseiUPea can be zerged at least. If you zerg a karthus you get wiped. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
also his ult doesn't even rape that hard idk what the problem is. Why is it so bad and not wws? | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Warwick suppresses for 1.7 seconds. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 05 2011 23:59 petered wrote: I just don't like abilities that take no skill to use and there is really no counter to (while laning/1v1 situations). There are many other, more relevant abilities in this game that take no skill to use (hell, there are arguably entire champion kits that take no skill to use--Malz and Karthus aren't that at least), a lot of which aren't ults. It's pretty clear that this sort of thing is not a priority for Riot, and I'm not sure what your complaint is attempting to accomplish at all. On May 06 2011 00:24 Juicyfruit wrote: Malzahar suppresses for 2.5 seconds Warwick suppresses for 1.7 seconds. Warwick's QWE kit also isn't as strongly augmented by his ult as Malzahar's (i.e. how Malz's R makes Q almost a guaranteed hit and locks them into W). | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On May 05 2011 18:03 BouBou.865 wrote: Where does Ryze rank on your list? Just curious, not trying be bait flames. Ryze is in the same spot as Zilean, strong, bannable, but not really game-changing like Karth/Jarvan/Eve are. They win a lot of games, but they're just strong picks imo. Karth is like retarded game-swinging. | ||
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