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Slayer91

Ireland23404 Posts

May 04 2011 23:10 GMT

#13962

A wave of creeps is like 3x 23, and 3x, 19 gold creeps, + the odd cannon minion, so its worth 21 gold average meaning at a kill is worth about 15 cs, or 2.5 waves.

You have to take into account the lost cs and xp from the guy who died though. Also a lot of lost momentum in lane, losing 1/2 level worth of xp and giving a champion a free back when you are ahead in a lane probably means you just lost your advantage.

Tooplark

United States3977 Posts

May 05 2011 02:24 GMT

#13963

And don't forget the morale factor. The lower ELO you are, the bigger a deal kills are, to the point where if you and a buddy gank one guy repeatedly you can literally make the game 5v4.

BloodNinja

United States2791 Posts

May 05 2011 04:42 GMT

#13964

I don't think I've seen this posted up here (maybe I missed it), did anyone else notice Atlanta joined Complexity? Not sure where it puts them in the grand ranking scheme. Just interesting.

http://www.complexitygaming.com/roster/

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

May 05 2011 04:46 GMT

#13965

Damn that's a pretty big pickup. Why doesn't TLAF sponsor our LoL team.

bosiddon

308 Posts

May 05 2011 04:58 GMT

#13966

wow their pictures are so bad

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

May 05 2011 05:00 GMT

#13967

Ive been asking why we dont get tl to officially sponsor for a while now. Its not like we want money. Just cool shirts.

eagle

United States693 Posts

May 05 2011 05:09 GMT

#13968

they also have ryze and jax not just atlanta

freelander

Hungary4707 Posts

May 05 2011 05:52 GMT

#13969

On May 05 2011 13:42 BloodNinja wrote:
I don't think I've seen this posted up here (maybe I missed it), did anyone else notice Atlanta joined Complexity? Not sure where it puts them in the grand ranking scheme. Just interesting.

http://www.complexitygaming.com/roster/

i had to vomit after i read all of their cheesy quotes

petered

United States1817 Posts

May 05 2011 06:09 GMT

#13970

Let me take a moment to complain about poor game design choices. Don't get me wrong, I love playing the game, but some champs/abilities are so ridiculously stupid I can't believe they don't remove it from the game.

Ranged suppression (malz) How is it reasonable to have an ability that most champs have absolutely no way of getting out of unless they have a QSS(which will put most of those champs behind on their builds quite a bit). Tell me malz players, do you feel skilled when you r click on a champ and set up the easiest gank in the history of ganks?

Global Nuke (karthus) Why put in an ability that punishes you for playing risky and requires absolutely no skill?

Ok, rant over. Wait, not quite, you are a noob if you play karthus or malz. Ok rant over.

EDIT: Not to say those champs are OP, just stupid, that is all.

freelander

Hungary4707 Posts

May 05 2011 06:36 GMT

#13971

"why put in an ability that punishes you for playing risky"

why is that a problem?

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

May 05 2011 06:39 GMT

#13972

On May 05 2011 15:09 petered wrote:
Ok, rant over. Wait, not quite, you are a noob if you play karthus or malz. Ok rant over.

Yup, people are noobs for playing otherwise skillshot-dependent champs that happen to have comparatively easy-to-use ults.

Oh, wait...

BlackPaladin

United States9316 Posts

May 05 2011 06:48 GMT

#13973

Why put in a champion that has a blind, a slow that does 1/4 of a squishy's life, a MS boost, AS boost when sitting idle before fighting, DoT, and a global taunt?

Because Riot likes making you rage.

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

May 05 2011 06:52 GMT

#13974

You do know that karthus is one of the champs with the highest skillcap? >_>

And malza's ulti isnt too bad if ur not in the void zone

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

May 05 2011 08:03 GMT

#13975

Actually, second to Jarvan, I think Karthus is the most broken champ in the game.

Kaniol

Poland5551 Posts

May 05 2011 08:37 GMT

#13976

Lol at hotshot, he has stacked deck x3 and wonders why does TF laugh out of nowhere

BouBou.865

Netherlands814 Posts

May 05 2011 09:03 GMT

#13977

On May 05 2011 17:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Actually, second to Jarvan, I think Karthus is the most broken champ in the game.

Where does Ryze rank on your list? Just curious, not trying be bait flames.

Unentschieden

Germany1471 Posts

May 05 2011 09:13 GMT

#13978

On May 05 2011 15:09 petered wrote:
Let me take a moment to complain about poor game design choices. Don't get me wrong, I love playing the game, but some champs/abilities are so ridiculously stupid I can't believe they don't remove it from the game.

Ranged suppression (malz) How is it reasonable to have an ability that most champs have absolutely no way of getting out of unless they have a QSS(which will put most of those champs behind on their builds quite a bit). Tell me malz players, do you feel skilled when you r click on a champ and set up the easiest gank in the history of ganks?

Because Malz has to channel it. That makes it the EASIEST CC to break out of if you have someone that pays attention with you. He is squishy without escapes. If it´s not 1v1 using his ult is almost suicide.

On May 05 2011 15:09 petered wrote:
Global Nuke (karthus) Why put in an ability that punishes you for playing risky and requires absolutely no skill?

Ok, rant over. Wait, not quite, you are a noob if you play karthus or malz. Ok rant over.

EDIT: Not to say those champs are OP, just stupid, that is all.

Karthuses ult is handy but really not the reason he is good. Even used to it´s best it is a "weak" nuke in terms of ultimates and a lot of damage is wasted because there is no "followup", besides the many methods to completely negate it. Under the assumption that you can reliably hit Lux ult is better in every way expect range, just to bring one example.

BluzMan

Russian Federation4235 Posts

May 05 2011 09:16 GMT

#13979

Nah, Karthus is pretty broken because his ult has a significant AP ratio and Karthus is guaranteed gold and probably mejai stacks no matter how bad he plays. If not for the AP ratio, his ult would be completely fine.