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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 15 2010 17:13 GMT
#2281
On December 16 2010 02:02 DarthThienAn wrote:
But Flash makes for such cool combos/plays too (offensively). ie. flash ults on tanks like galio/amumu etc.


This is an argument for blink dagger, not for flash.
it's my first day
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
December 15 2010 18:22 GMT
#2282
I don't think there is anything wrong with flash. Just remember that you have to get the person to burn it before you can get the kill and you don't really get upset when you can't finish them off on the first gank attempt. I am comparing this to WoW in my head though. Like how you would have to get someone to burn trinket or blink etc before you can do whatever.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 15 2010 18:58 GMT
#2283
On December 16 2010 03:22 Scorcher2k wrote:
I don't think there is anything wrong with flash. Just remember that you have to get the person to burn it before you can get the kill and you don't really get upset when you can't finish them off on the first gank attempt. I am comparing this to WoW in my head though. Like how you would have to get someone to burn trinket or blink etc before you can do whatever.


In other words you either need to be winning the lane as is or you need to "pre-gank" and hope that they don't just play super cautious for the next 4 minutes.
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Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 19:02:00
December 15 2010 19:01 GMT
#2284
On December 16 2010 03:58 Tooplark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 03:22 Scorcher2k wrote:
I don't think there is anything wrong with flash. Just remember that you have to get the person to burn it before you can get the kill and you don't really get upset when you can't finish them off on the first gank attempt. I am comparing this to WoW in my head though. Like how you would have to get someone to burn trinket or blink etc before you can do whatever.


In other words you either need to be winning the lane as is or you need to "pre-gank" and hope that they don't just play super cautious for the next 4 minutes.

Um, if they let you zone them for the next four minutes then I say that, gank or no gank, you came out on top.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
December 15 2010 19:27 GMT
#2285
Akali's AoE kills wards.

Confirm/Deny?

I knew it was some champ I'd played recently.. thought it was Olaf's undertow but we tested that and that skill is working as intended.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 15 2010 19:31 GMT
#2286
I could've sworn I've seen Akali's E kill shrooms before, can't remember if I confirmed it or not.
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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
December 15 2010 19:34 GMT
#2287
I haven't tested it this patch but I'm fairly certain it worked before. They might have changed it that same patch where they made Garen's E not kill wards anymore though.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 15 2010 19:41 GMT
#2288
Akali's E was killing wards last patch, as was Pantheon's HSS if I recall correctly. Unless they were changed and it wasn't included in the patch notes they're probably still broken.

If Akali can still kill wards she's going to be an abusive jungler until it's fixed. Not only are you unable to track her by CS now, but if you ward your bushes or dragon she can kill it without any appreciable opportunity cost or effort. Previously you had to at least stand in one spot for 15-20 seconds spamming E and watching your spell vamp to make sure you were really hitting something.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
December 15 2010 20:07 GMT
#2289
There's a red post by Guinsoo claiming they fixed these a few hero skills that could kill wards (Akali's E among them) and asking for bug reports if they're in fact still killing wards.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 15 2010 20:10 GMT
#2290
Physical proc attacks no longer kill wards (Garen E, Akali E, Panth E, Olaf Q, Corki E, etc). So that's a good adjustment.

The major downside to 1 hp wards now is that they can be dinked by an auto attack if an enemy is in range of the ward before it gets to turn invisible.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 15 2010 20:15 GMT
#2291
Note that you can use physical proc attacks to kill a ward if it's visible. You can snipe a ward with mystic shot right as they drop it down, or if someone has oracles.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 15 2010 20:20 GMT
#2292
That's how it should be though imo.
If people drop a ward right in front of your face and you know where it is then it's not doing them much good anyway.
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
December 15 2010 20:23 GMT
#2293
Chrispy raging on CLG stream. The shittalking has been entertaining all game.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 15 2010 20:23 GMT
#2294
yes it is, a good ward will still be good even if the enemy sees you place it. it can easily cut off paths of entrance to a lane
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 15 2010 20:24 GMT
#2295
On December 16 2010 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's how it should be though imo.
If people drop a ward right in front of your face and you know where it is then it's not doing them much good anyway.

*generic story about vision wards and twitch here*
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 15 2010 20:30 GMT
#2296
Vis wards should not be 1 hp imo.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 15 2010 20:33 GMT
#2297
http://leagueofreplays.com/redpost.php?postid=4721716&lang=US#4721716

There's the red post. I'll have to actually test Akali's E and see if it's still broken.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 15 2010 20:40 GMT
#2298
Placing a ward against a powerballing Rammus: Awesome.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 15 2010 21:52 GMT
#2299
On December 16 2010 05:40 spinesheath wrote:
Placing a ward against a powerballing Rammus: Awesome.

hillarity ensues if it actually worked. Not really cost effective unless you REALLY dont wanna get caught but would be soo fun :D
In the woods, there lurks..
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 15 2010 21:54 GMT
#2300
On December 16 2010 05:24 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's how it should be though imo.
If people drop a ward right in front of your face and you know where it is then it's not doing them much good anyway.

*generic story about vision wards and twitch here*

Derp.
I don't know why I didn't even think about vision wards when I said that...
And the other point is good as well. That's why I'm sub 1200!
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