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Diablo Rework Analysis

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May 23 2018 05:48 GMT
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Diablo

Rework Analysis

by Rozai






"Is it possible to conquer our fears? I hope so, though I also believe that Terror can never truly die."
— Deckard Cain



Table of Contents
  • Gains and losses
  • Ability changes
  • Talents
  • Analysis


Since the decline of the double-support meta, Diablo’s one-shot-punishment style of tanking has been a cornerstone of the meta for the first half of 2018. Though he has proven to be a well-defined hero, Diablo has enjoyed little in the way of talent diversity, even after his previous rework. Up to now, there has been little reason to branch away from the default Shadow Charge build, which is bolstered by the self-sustain of Devil’s Due and the incredible amount of CC and single-target burst provided by Devastating Charge, Domination, and Diabolical Momentum.

With the latest rework, Blizzard aimed to provide more compelling talent options while “preserving his most popular builds.” Based on initial impressions in the community, the former statement may be true, but the latter may not hold water.

Gains and losses

Gains
  • Greater control over self-sustain
  • More control over soul collection
  • More control over Fire Stomp (W)
  • Diversity of CC choices (particularly from heroics)
  • More general “tankiness”

Losses
  • Less burst damage
  • No Giant Killer effect from Devastating Charge
  • No default armor on Shadow Charge
  • Less frequent usage of Shadow Charge (Diabolic Momentum change)
  • Less of a one-shot gank enabler.


Ability Changes



Trait
  • Black Soulstone (D)
    • Maximum Health gained per Soul reduced from 0.5% to 0.4%

Basic Abilities
  • Shadow Charge (Q)
    • Range increased from 7 to 8.5
    • Mana cost increased from 60 to 70
    • Damage reduced from 75 to 40.
    • Terrain collision damage reduced from 150 to 120.
    • No longer grants Armor.
    • Now also increases Movement Speed by 15% for 2 seconds.

  • Fire Stomp (W)
    • Now unleashes fire waves in a large cone in the chosen direction, rather than a 360° area around Diablo.
    • Number of fire waves reduced from 8 to 5.
    • Multiple fire waves can now hit the same target.
    • Cooldown increased from 6 to 8 seconds.
    • Mana cost reduced from 40 to 30.
    • Outgoing fire wave damage reduced from 54 to 12.
    • Returning fire wave damage reduced from 81 to 36.
      • Damage dealt by returning fire waves now counts as critical damage.
      • Now Heals Diablo for 125% of the damage dealt to Heroes.


  • Overpower (E)
    • Mana cost reduced from 60 to 40.

Heroic Abilities
  • Lightning Breath (R)
    • Range increased from 10.5 to 12.
    • Each tick of Lightning Breath damage now also Slows enemies hit by 5% for 2 seconds, up to a maximum of 50%.



The adjustment to Diablo’s trait is meant to compensate for the new self-healing from Fire Stomp (W). Previously Diablo’s self-sustain primarily came from regen globe and fountain usage with Devil’s Due.

The changes to Shadow Charge are where most players will feel the greatest impact in this rework. Much of the talent changes down the line place a greater value on Fire Stomp over the Shadow Charge + Overpower combo. As such, a significant amount of damage has been removed from Shadow Charge. The CDR from Diabolical Momentum at Level 7 was also changed from 1.5 seconds to 0.75 seconds, reducing the effective number of Shadow Charges in a team fight. With Shadow Charge now requiring the new Sacrificial Soul talents at Level 4 to gain armor, there is greater risk involved with committing to an engagement. The additional Movement Speed helps aid those moments where Diablo needs to Shadow Charge an enemy without a wall, allowing them to connect with Overpower more frequently.

The Fire Stomp changes seem to be the feature of the rework. While the damage on Fire Stomp was significantly reduced, the smaller angle of the fire arc helps ensure heroes are hit by more flames. Seasoned Diablo players may initially push their targets out of Fire Stomp when relying on old combos, so it will take a few attempts to get a feel for the new style. It is critical for players to maximize Fire Stomp targets, especially on the back swing, as this ties into Diablo’s sustain and CC. These changes, while jarring at first, do feel necessary and a step in the right direction. Fire Stomp feels much more useful and dynamic than before, opening up many new gameplay possibilities. One of the new talent builds focuses on resetting Fire Stomp with Shadow Charge and Overpower. The lower mana costs for Overpower and Fire Stomp help facilitate this new style. Notably, this new design focus shifts Diablo into a sustained damage tank with area control and strong self-healing, like a (significantly) more impactful Johanna.

Lightning Breath is now more viable than ever. The stacking slow provides excellent team fight utility and helps prevent escape from Lightning Breath’s considerable damage. With this change, Diablo now has access to two separate paths of CC, enabling the player to adjust to the enemy team. A full Apoc combo may not be optimal against a team running Uther with Guardian of Ancient Kings or a Stitches with Flea Bag. The Unstoppable provided by Lightning Breath also offers protection against other threats Diablo may face.





Talents


Level 1:






Feast on Fear
Stunning an enemy Hero with Shadow Charge or Overpower heals Diablo for 15% of his maximum Health over 4 seconds.
Devil’s Due
Black Soulstone increases the effects of Regen Globes and Healing Fountains by 2% per Soul.
Soul Shield
Activate to gain 25 plus 50% of Diablo's current Souls as Spell Armor for 4 seconds. Every time Diablo damages an enemy Hero, reduce this cooldown by 1 second.

Hover over icons to read descriptions.


The new additions to the Level 1 tier certainly provide interesting options for adaptability. Feast on Fear will have significant value in the late game if opting into the 2 extra charges of Overpower from Overpowering Nightmare, however with the changes to Diabolic Momentum there will be fewer Shadow Charges per engagement. The new Soul Shield is an obvious tech choice against burst: with the shield lasting 4 seconds, popping Soul Shield with 100 Souls at the right moment could mitigate a significant portion of a full spell rotation. It has a fun interaction with Lightning Breath, as each tick will reduce Soul Shield’s cooldown. Devil’s Due still feels like the strongest default option, as a strategic pre-tap before an engagement will ensure both survivability and mana sustain.

Level 4:






Sacrificial Soul
Stunning a Hero with Shadow Charge grants 5 Souls and 15 Armor for 4 seconds. While at 100 Souls, increase this Armor to 30.
Souls to the Flame
Fire Stomp grants 1 Soul every 3 times it damages an enemy Hero, and heals for an additional 1.25% of its damage dealt per Soul.
Life Leech
Diablo gains 1 Soul and heals for 1.5% of his maximum Health when Basic Attacking an enemy Hero. While at 100 Souls, increase this healing to 3% of his maximum Health.


Level 4 talents now provide Diablo with new ways to acquire Souls, which is a significant upgrade from relying on farming minions and hero kills. Sacrificial Soul provides the armor on Shadow Charge that was formerly baseline, offering more protection during high commitment engagements. Souls to the Flame feels like the most consistent and reliable talent of this tier, and doesn’t have its value gated behind the 100 Souls barrier. The new Life Leech underperforms compared to the other options in this tier.

Level 7:






Eternal Flames
When Diablo stuns an enemy Hero with Shadow Charge or Overpower, reset the cooldown of Fire Stomp.
Malevolence
Basic Abilities cause Diablo's next Basic Attack within 6 seconds to deal an additional 100 Spell Damage. Stores up to 2 charges.
Diabolical Momentum
When Diablo's Basic Attacks damage enemies, reduce the cooldown of his Basic Abilities by 0.75 seconds.



Prior to the rework, Diabolical Momentum was the dominant choice at all levels. With the new focus on Fire Stomp however, Eternal Flames offers the most appealing benefits. Combined with the other Fire Stomp talents, Diablo gains access to significant self-healing, spell power, CC, and damage mitigation. More Fire Stomps means more tanking. Malevolence appears to be rather strong, adding a flat, single-target damage increase. Malevolence gets even stronger with either Cruelty or Hellfire at Level 13. Diabolical Momentum returns to its May 2016 version, reducing all Basic Abilities by 0.75 seconds per Basic Attack. The talent now provides half of its value towards Shadow Charge and Overpower, but now helps with wave clear -- which may be a much needed benefit given the nerfed damage on Fire Stomp.

Level 13






Devastating Charge
Increase Shadow Charge's terrain collision damage by 100%. Quest: Each time an enemy Hero takes terrain collision damage, increase this bonus by 15%, to a maximum of 75%.
Cruelty
Stunning an enemy with Shadow Charge or Overpower increases Diablo's Attack Speed by 50% for 5 seconds, up to 100%.
Hellfire
Each enemy Hero hit by Fire Stomp grants 2% Spell Power for 10 seconds, up to 30%.


The changes to Devastating Charge are a tragic loss to fans of old Diablo. Gone are the days of chunking 30% of a target’s health with a full Q-E-Q wall-bang combo (with Domination). While the new version still provides a significant damage bonus (roughly 800 damage with the full combo at level 20), the value against tanks is somewhat lost compared to pre-rework. In return, the bonus damage now applies to all enemies, which helps with clearing mercenaries. Cruelty pairs well with Life Leech, Diabolical Momentum, and Malevolence, providing value against comps will low mobility and/or CC. The most appealing talent at this point seems to be Hellfire. The Spell Power is easy to proc, funneling more power into Lightning Breath and Fire Stomp (which also improves healing).

Level 16:






Domination
Casting Overpower resets the cooldown of Shadow Charge.
Debilitating Flames
Enemy Heroes hit by Fire Stomp are Slowed by 5% for 4 seconds, up to 50%. Heroes Slowed by 25% or more by Debilitating Flames deal 50% less damage.
Overpowering Nightmare
Gain 2 additional charges of Overpower, with a 2 second cooldown between uses.


The main goal of any changes to the Level 16 tier was to provide anything that could compete with Domination. Debilitating Flames more than accomplishes this goal. By using Eternal Flames at Level 7 to dish out more Fire Stomps early in a team fight, the disruption and damage reduction can completely tip the scales in your favor. The slows do wonders for any assassin with access to Executioner. Overpowering Nightmare is a strong choice as well, with repeated usage of Overpower completely disrupting the enemy frontline. It also helps enable the benefits of Eternal Flames and Malevolence. The talent demands communication with teammates however, as displacing a target too much without warning can confuse your assassins. Domination is still a strong talent for executing the Q-E-Q combo, however the nerfs to Shadow Charge and Devastating Charge make it less appealing.

Level 20:








Dying Breath
Apocalypse's cooldown is reduced by 20 seconds for every enemy Hero hit (to a minimum of 5 seconds) and is cast for free when Diablo dies.
Hellstorm
Lightning Breath lasts 200% longer.
Lord of Terror
Activate to steal 10% of the maximum Health of nearby enemy Heroes and gain 5 Souls per Hero hit.
Hellgate
Teleport and place a demonic rune at target location. After 1.75 seconds, the rune explodes dealing 137 damage and stunning enemies for 1.75 seconds.



The benefits of Hellgate prior to the rework were to help enable the Devastating Charge/Domination Q-E-Q combo. While the teleport is still appealing, the previously mentioned nerfs make other options more interesting. Hellstorm, while hilarious and awesome, will rarely achieve maximum value unless long term zoning is needed or for burning the core. Players are likely to cancel the channel early after the needed value is gained. Lord of Terror fits into the new sustain playstyle well and helps against Garrosh, another popular meta pick right now. Dying Breath can enable some crazy late game plays, but hitting more than 1-2 targets with Apocalypse is a rarity without adequate setup.





Analysis



The changes to Diablo come down to a core philosophy discussion regarding the role of tanks, and may give insight into the new role system coming down the line. For players and game designers alike, the responsibilities of each role can be solved by asking the following questions:

Who is securing kills?
Who is enabling kills?
Who is preventing kills?

In the traditional sense, tanks are the ones enabling kills with their CC and protecting their team with their massive health pool, damage mitigation, and area control. The roles of protection and enabling is also shared by the support role, with some providing more CC than others. Of course, the role of executing a kill on the enemy is largely left in the hands of the damage dealers. Obviously these lines are blurred as more heroes are released, however the basic principles drive core design.

Ignoring the ambiguous Bruiser role for a moment, let us consider the capabilities of each true tank currently in the game.

Anub'arak - Provides control of the frontline with 2-3 forms of CC and enables kills with lockdown. Low to medium damage contribution.

Blaze - Provides control of the frontline with 2 forms of CC and enables kills with lockdown. Can protect allies with damage mitigation talents and Bunker. Medium damage contribution. (Blaze is somewhat half tank, half bruiser).

Diablo - Provides control of the frontline with 3 forms of CC and enables/secures kills with lockdown. Medium to high damage contribution.

ETC - Provides control of the frontline with 2-3 forms of CC and enables kills with displacement and lockdown. Low damage contribution.

Garrosh - Provides control of the frontline with 2-3 forms of CC and enables kills with isolation and lockdown. Low damage contribution. Soaks damage with strong self-sustain.

Johanna - Provides control of the frontline with 2-3 forms of CC and enables kills with lockdown. Provides Basic Attack damage mitigation. Low damage contribution. Soaks damage with strong self-sustain.

Muradin - Provides control of the frontline with 2 forms of CC and enables kills with lockdown. Provides Basic Attack damage mitigation. Low to medium damage contribution.

Stitches - Provides 1-3 forms of CC (Hook, Pulverize, Gorge) and enables kills with isolation. Soaks damage with strong self-sustain. Medium damage contribution.

When compared to his contemporaries, pre-rework Diablo stands out above the rest for his ability to almost single handedly delete an opponent. While the displacement effects of Stitches and Garrosh also have this potential (with aid from structures), Diablo can secure a kill through damage alone. It was not uncommon for high-skilled Diablo players to compete with assassins for top damage after completing Devastating Charge. Diablo could do it all: sustain, control, peel, and kill. The rework shifts Diablo more in line with other tanks, reducing his overall kill potential and repurposing him as a general control tank. His play-making potential through Shadow Charge and Overpower remains, though at a less consistent capacity with the nerf to Diabolic Momentum.

It will be interesting to see how these changes play out on the live servers. In terms of variety and flavor Diablo’s new direction is exciting, however, we’ll have to wait and see how he fits into his more standardised tank role.


Writer(s): Rozai
Editor(s): Buckingham
Formatting: Phantom
Design: shiroiusagi
Art Credit: Blizzard

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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 23 2018 15:37 GMT
#2
It's very, very early, but so far Diablo has been exceptionally popular at 81.6% popularity which is highest among all heroes since the patch at diamond/masters combined on HOTSLOGS, and his win rate has dropped to 39.1% which is among the worst in the game.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
May 23 2018 17:20 GMT
#3
I honestly feel his heal is too low. I was disappointed because Diablo, while being a tank has always been a good source of damage. Now his fire stomp deals zero damage and his heal is only ok because it only heals based on damage dealt to heroes. Still I think the overall rework is for the better as it should give him more build diversity and change his power from being simply a blow up tank.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6805 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-23 18:51:13
May 23 2018 18:03 GMT
#4
2 games later:

Lightning is awesome, damage still sucks.
But I got all souls 3mins after game started, which is kinda cool. Impossible with the old Dibbles

Can someone explain how Debilitating Flames actually works?
Like one firestomp can proc 2 hits, 1 going out, 1 coming in.
This means to proc the damage reduction in need to hit ppl with 2.5 firestomps in 4 sec?
That is hard!
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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
May 23 2018 20:29 GMT
#5
He's not a main tank anymore. He feels a bit like Artanis. Once you go in, you win, or you die.

His damage isn't bad, but it doesn't scare tanks anymore. Unless there's an obscure strong build out there, I doubt he'll see much play.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
May 23 2018 22:16 GMT
#6
It's a shame, because I felt Diablo was in a really good spot kitwise. He needed 2 nerfs - one to Devil's Due (reduce the bonus from 2% per soul to 1.5 or 1%) and Devastating Charge (reduce the quest reward from 10% to 5%) and perhaps some buffs to other weaker talents, and he would have been absolutely fine. As is so often the case, Blizzard's obsession with reworking over balancing has now made Diablo incredibly weak and he will require many more balance changes to be relevant again - the same can be said for the recent Lunara rework.
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SlapJack
Profile Joined March 2018
Germany5 Posts
May 24 2018 08:06 GMT
#7
I really dislike the rework and it, like with leoric, on a tank that is allready viable and gets a good ammount of play. If the Diablo winrate was too high, then nerf his numbers slightly and it's fine or buff his other talents to maybe give him more variety, but this rework, idk just don't see the use of it.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6805 Posts
May 24 2018 08:35 GMT
#8
IMO Lunara is actually quite good now. She is just missing a roll in the meta since Greymane/ Hanzo/ Fenix are better suited for most stuff. Haven't played her on BoE yet, maybe she is back to immortal slayer
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
May 25 2018 04:48 GMT
#9
Okay, after a couple days, it's clear that they've really messed up bad with Diablo. His winrate has plummeted to the 30s and he basically no longer has the ability to do any of the things he used to do anywhere near as well.

Lunara, on the other hand, is actually looking solid. But... she was solid anyway. And she had decent build diversity as it was. Now they have allowed you to go Nature's Culling with Splintered Spear and then go into Unfair Advantage and ramp up even more damage lategame, which makes her almost like a less bursty more bambi Hanzo. But she always was strong for her lategame scaling, so I don't really see why this rework was strictly necessary outside of her mediocre 1/4 tiers. But hey ho, I'm not unhappy about it now.
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 25 2018 15:21 GMT
#10
I wouldn't be surprised if they intentionally over nerfed the old build just to encourage people to test the other builds extensively. Which could be fine if they come back and buff things in the not too distant future.

The old build really needed some nerfs, but it removes all of the excitement from a rework when the general results are that a former meta hero is too weak to bother with now.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6805 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-29 09:02:12
May 29 2018 09:00 GMT
#11
Tried multiple builds now and they are all bad

My favorite is the firestomp / lightning build, with this you can at least wombo combo pretty good.
The AA build is nice for long fights, but most of the time you get just blown up tbh.
I really hope he gets a buff or he is pretty dead
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-30 12:13:48
May 30 2018 01:22 GMT
#12
Some Korean pros are favoring new Diablo, including Noblesse, Gondar, and Lockdown.


Gen.g Noblesse said that Lightning Breath is the go to now.

His Build: Feast on Fear or Devil's Due - Souls to the Flame - Eternal Flames - Lightning Breath - Hellfire - Debilitating Flames - Hellstorm or Hellgate, which is similar to what several of the NA tank players were projecting as best prior to release.


Here is a recent game with Noblesse.

And here is an example from McIntyre.
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