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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-17 11:36:17
November 17 2015 11:35 GMT
#21
Remember in this game ANYTHING can work. We just beat a Top 4~ NA team 2 days ago in a scrim with Nova.

Thing is winning with something (ex: Nova, Hammer) does not make it good. For us to get that win we had to draft from pick 1 in a very specific and hardlined way and had to play entire parts of the game in unique ways because of that pick.

If you want to play something unusual go to town. Just know what YOU need to do to make it work, and if you know what your allies need to do help them out. Most importantly, know when making that pick forces your team to give up too much to be worth it.

As for Hammer in particular, she is insta viable in any meta where you can only tri lane and roam lanes are dead. That was the case a few months back. All the melee assassin's that roamed sucked and so did tyrande and super tanks. When that meta hit Hammer was top notch. However in current affairs where Tyrande is literally everywhere along with Muradin, you just gonna get hard camped by a smart and coordinated team. If the opponent is playing a tri lane comp, Hammer is actually a very strong pick in HL.

Never pick Hammer on Tomb tho, that is just THE WORST map ever for her.

Random thoughts I know, but it's like 6:30 AM and I'm waiting up for something so hope my random tired rambling made sense.
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Troglowight
Profile Joined April 2014
0 Posts
November 17 2015 15:17 GMT
#22
Has anyone seen how Cho'Gall is going to work with drafting in HL? Seems like you would need voice chat to work well together and that doesn't seem to work well with randoms. Also seems like if someone picks that #1, someone else will be forced to team up which doesn't seem like it would work well. Even if you party up in HL to pick him, what stops some random from jumping in?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7427 Posts
November 17 2015 15:34 GMT
#23
Afaik
- When you play QM and chose Cho you will be matched with someone picking Gall. If you and your friend pick both, there will be no other Cho or Gall pick on your team
- In HL you can't solo pick him, meaning not as starting team first pick and ending team last pick.
- You can only lock in if the other player you draft with is picking the other one
- Dunno how it is with HL and a friend cause it doesn't mean you pick directly after each other, meaning you could be FP and your friend could be last pick...
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 17 2015 16:58 GMT
#24
On November 18 2015 00:34 Harris1st wrote:
- Dunno how it is with HL and a friend cause it doesn't mean you pick directly after each other, meaning you could be FP and your friend could be last pick...

Dustin Browder tweeted about this and said that from this patch friends will be grouped up in HL and will pick together in the same phase so you could play Cho'Gall with friend.
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Xingua
Profile Joined May 2015
United States81 Posts
November 18 2015 17:27 GMT
#25
If it isn't clear by now, you can only play Cho'Gall when grouped up with someone else who can play the other half of him. You will never end up with a random other person playing with you.

Going back to the Hammer discussion:

One thing to remember is that most "weak" heroes are weak because they are easy to counter with a certain type of play, but sometimes that strategy is forgotten (or never known) by players. In other words, I've been on teams facing Sgt Hammer, and nobody knows what to do against her, and we get completely crushed. Sometimes the Meta becomes so stale that teams actually forget how to play against certain heroes. You even see this in professional games where teams sneak in last picks on a less common hero because their opponents were expecting the "usual" picks. When Nazeebo snuck back into the Meta over the summer, this was part of the reason, and then teams remembered how to beat him and he fell off again.

Cloud9 vs Team DK at BlizzCon is an example of this, where C9 used Rexxar and Murky in unexpected ways and it threw off Team DK's plan. If Cloud9 had just tried to run a "typical" comp against them, Team DK might have won that series, DunkTrain admitted they consciously picked unusual heroes to force Team DK to adapt.
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