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Wuster
1974 Posts
On May 20 2015 06:23 TMG26 wrote: HotS might have the dumb talents lock, but at least it doesn't have idiotic rune system. And Blizzard promised that talent gating will be removed post-lvl 30. At least hopefully that's still on the table as it's really annoying. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On May 20 2015 06:58 Wuster wrote: And Blizzard promised that talent gating will be removed post-lvl 30. At least hopefully that's still on the table as it's really annoying. It's already in effect at level 25. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
On May 20 2015 06:58 Wuster wrote: And Blizzard promised that talent gating will be removed post-lvl 30. At least hopefully that's still on the table as it's really annoying. Hope this is true, would change my opinion on talent gating. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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ZKtheMAN
13 Posts
On May 20 2015 09:03 TMG26 wrote: Hope this is true, would change my opinion on talent gating. Can confirm, it works after 25 instead of 30. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2552 Posts
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Talaris
Switzerland762 Posts
On May 20 2015 12:30 sM.Zik wrote: I think it's sad that all the new players have to experience a bunch of chaotic quick matches (cause that's really what they are, at least in solo/duo queue) before they can experience the much better experience of hero league (logical draft phase pre game, no double heroes in same game) which is how every others mobas are played right at the start. One could argue that the experience of hero league is much better because new players have to experience a bunch of quick matches where they learn to play the game, try different heros and playstayle, and have to deal with sub-optimal teamcomps instead of ruining the fun/chane of winning for 4 other ppl in hero league by yolo-picking a random hero b/c they can't have a clue what works well yet. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45735 Posts
On May 20 2015 09:12 FeyFey wrote: I liked talent gating to get familiar with a hero as you experimented with talents, but I don't miss it either. Same here. I thought I'd hate it but it only takes like 2-3 games to completely unlock everything with a hero anyway, so I didn't really mind it. Working an hour to unlock all the talents was fine with me. | ||
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lestye
United States4208 Posts
On May 20 2015 06:23 TMG26 wrote: HotS might have the dumb talents lock, but at least it doesn't have idiotic rune system. Rune system was the worst because it constrained your hero pool so much and it kinda punished you for buying heroes. Thank god they scrapped the dumb artifact system in hots. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2552 Posts
On May 20 2015 12:44 Talaris wrote: One could argue that the experience of hero league is much better because new players have to experience a bunch of quick matches where they learn to play the game, try different heros and playstayle, and have to deal with sub-optimal teamcomps instead of ruining the fun/chane of winning for 4 other ppl in hero league by yolo-picking a random hero b/c they can't have a clue what works well yet. Yes your point is very valid, but I think they could improve the QM mode a bit anyway. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45735 Posts
On May 21 2015 16:03 sM.Zik wrote: Yes your point is very valid, but I think they could improve the QM mode a bit anyway. I think it'd be nice if they would at least guarantee one warrior class, one specialist class, one support class, and one assassin class in any given QM team of five. Obviously the HL meta will change over time, but it'd be nice (especially for newer players) if these baseline QM games were somewhat stable and not auto-loss merely based on the combination. | ||
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pyraxthereaper
United States8 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Or you get heroes like Azmodan. Someone who hasn't played him doesn't know that he needs to farm so he gets strong later on. Good example I had was a mines game with Sylvanas. Kerrigan and Sonya were pretty confused that Sylv didn't enter the mines and feeded the opposing team in the mines. They were prolly a team as they both left at the same time when the first opposing golem had 80 Skulls. As a side note the opposing team ignored Sylv which cost them 2 forts. I really regret not asking Sylv if she will be staying outside for the first mines. Anyway Blizzard said that they will go more into details when it comes to roles. Which could help matchmaking as well. So Tassadar doesn't have to be the support against Malf. But I play qm because it is not always tank healer 3 assassin/specialists. | ||
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NihilisticGod
Northern Ireland174 Posts
On May 21 2015 20:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I think it'd be nice if they would at least guarantee one warrior class, one specialist class, one support class, and one assassin class in any given QM team of five. Obviously the HL meta will change over time, but it'd be nice (especially for newer players) if these baseline QM games were somewhat stable and not auto-loss merely based on the combination. You should be working at Blizzard on their matchmaking! But seriously it is a really good point. How can newer players get used to decent/winable team comps before they play HL if the matchmaking is so bad you get random trash comps most of the time? Experience is a great teacher, sucks when your experiences are bad! | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On May 20 2015 12:30 sM.Zik wrote: I think it's sad that all the new players have to experience a bunch of chaotic quick matches (cause that's really what they are, at least in solo/duo queue) before they can experience the much better experience of hero league (logical draft phase pre game, no double heroes in same game) which is how every others mobas are played right at the start. I learned LoL before there was a ranked/draft queue. I honestly think it's better/easier that way. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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