EPTSome things I like:
ETC getting Hardened Shield
Tune down on Valla
Tune down on Zeratul
Tune up on Abathur
Tune up on Murky (I feel assault Murky may be viable now)
Tune up on Thrall
Tune down on Hammer
Overall I'm very happy with this patch.
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Tenks
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Some things I like: ETC getting Hardened Shield Tune down on Valla Tune down on Zeratul Tune up on Abathur Tune up on Murky (I feel assault Murky may be viable now) Tune up on Thrall Tune down on Hammer Overall I'm very happy with this patch. | ||
[Phantom]
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Around january I speculed that sylvanass patch and the new stats screen could be the last patch before release, now, I'm probably wrong, but I'll be dammed is open beta is not very close now after this UI redesign. (That I think I don't like >.< haha). | ||
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[Phantom]
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They should have just put a man a cost on the second spike or remove rewind. Even if ETC is the best warrior I'll never play him, he's just terribly boring. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On March 24 2015 23:12 [Phantom] wrote: You can counter play it. Look for the shimmer and predict where he will use his skill shot. Also if they 100-0, its because you were alone, and playing bad should be punishable. They should have just put a man a cost on the second spike or remove rewind. Even if ETC is the best warrior I'll never play him, he's just terribly boring. I'm not sure if you encountered how Zeratul is actually played ... or played well ... but you just blink ontop, Q, double bomb, rewind, Q, double bomb and blink back (possibly Wormhole back, not sure the interaction here with RW since I don't play Zera.) Since he's riding your nuts it is basically impossible to miss his W and he generally blinks from beyond sight range. | ||
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Big G
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On March 24 2015 23:05 Tenks wrote: With ETC getting hardened shield at 20 does that now make him the pretty much universal #1 warrior? IMHO he already was. I don't get all those Stitches nerfs... his health pool should be higher than other warriors because he has no escape. This is a 600hp loss at lv20. On March 24 2015 23:15 Tenks wrote: I'm not sure if you encountered how Zeratul is actually played ... or played well ... but you just blink ontop, Q, double bomb, rewind, Q, double bomb and blink back (possibly Wormhole back, not sure the interaction here with RW since I don't play Zera.) Since he's riding your nuts it is basically impossible to miss his W and he generally blinks from beyond sight range. ...which tells more about Rewind than Zeratul in itself. Ofc he's a beast after lvl20 because he can 100-0 Valla in a couple of seconds. Pre-20... not so much, and this nerf doesn't help. I had a game where I misclicked the 16 talent, picking Stoneskin instead of Double Bombs... I felt so useless.  | ||
NonY
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Several changes have been implemented which will prevent the cancellation of Ability casts when issuing Move commands, as well as when attempting to cast several Abilities in rapid succession. Additionally, these changes will result in heightened input responsiveness for most Ability casts. This will be the most important change of the patch. Really looking forward to it. Also, Jaina BUFFS? That new level 20 talent will make her burst insane and the general damage increases are also gonna be nice. Having Chilled apply to Unstoppable units is huge. It'll help against Illidan but it'll really increase damage against golems and structures, since the 50% damage bonus (65% at lvl 7) depends on the effect being applied. She can actually be decent at killing towers now. Although she can't always be using her W to both shove the wave and to kill towers. And Illidan untouched? I think he probably started to become clearly strong after a lot of these changes were decided. If he continues to be strong I'm sure he'll be weakened next patch. Funny that Sonya's Whirlwind got buffed when it feels like her main weakness is having her Whirlwind stopped short. | ||
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Tenks
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On March 24 2015 23:19 Big G wrote: IMHO he already was. I don't get all those Stitches nerfs... his health pool should be higher than other warriors because he has no escape. This is a 600hp loss at lv20. ...which tells more about Rewind than Zeratul in itself. Ofc he's a beast after lvl20 because he can 100-0 Valla in a couple of seconds. Pre-20... not so much, and this nerf doesn't help. I had a game where I misclicked the 16 talent, picking Stoneskin instead of Double Bombs... I felt so useless. I think they need to look at pretty much all these "get a free one afterwards" talents. They are just clear-cut the best ones to take at tiers. Do you ever see Zeratul not go double bomb or Tass not go double storm? They're too good to pass up. | ||
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FeyFey
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Tenks
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On March 24 2015 23:28 FeyFey wrote: Wah health reduce on hammer QQ . I liked her tanky build. Hardened shield Mosh Pit will be scary. She needed a nerf and the best way was to make her more squishy. Considering she'll still be basically unhittable at 20 I'm not sure if it is even that huge a deal. | ||
Heyoka
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Big G
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On March 24 2015 23:27 Tenks wrote: I think they need to look at pretty much all these "get a free one afterwards" talents. They are just clear-cut the best ones to take at tiers. Do you ever see Zeratul not go double bomb or Tass not go double storm? They're too good to pass up. Actually a lot of Tassadar players take Dimensional Warp @16 | ||
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Tenks
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On March 24 2015 23:32 Big G wrote: Actually a lot of Tassadar players take Dimensional Warp @16 Hm you're right. I must be out of the Tass meta. | ||
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Ramiz1989
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Like the Murky changes a lot, especially the new talent and Pufferfish's cast time reduced by 75%(!). Nazeebo took a hit which is ok in my book even though he is one of my most played heroes. However, Gargantuan will remain close to useless as long as you aren't able to control him like Kerrigan and Jaina can control their summons. Viking's new talent won't do much in my opinion, upgraded Boat or their trait is a lot more valuable. They didn't get a big nerf at all, which is a bit strange. Stitches got hit quite a bit(and like I proposed his both ultimate upgrades on level 20 got buffed, I don't think that it is enough but it is a good start) and even though he is my most played hero, he definitely deserves it. Valla is nerfed but it doesn't affect me that much. Uther and Zeratul nerfs were very much needed, finally! Some nice stuff like Hardened Shield for ETC, and new Jaina-only talent(didn't play her more than to level 5 so I don't know how much it will affect her gameplay). Can't comment on the rest since I didn't play them much or at all. Overall really nice patch, I like it. | ||
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And the most awesome/the worst skin list? I'm just wondering which hero should I buy now. Was thinking about Tychus / Diablo or Tyrael. Any of them sees competetive play? | ||
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