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On October 19 2013 00:07 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 23:37 tadL wrote:
ehm no, the first multiplayer online battle arena was STAR, right? And the first I played was quake. So sry but moba means nothing and does not define the genre at all. Quake was a top down view unit management game where you defended towers and killed creep marching across three lanes while you leveled up heroes at home in order to help your army push lanes until you killed the enemy Nexus? Because I thought Quake was a first person shooter. Because if you're simply talking about a multiplayer game with 5 people on each side then I guess Basketball is a MOBA and started before videogames were invented.
He is nitpicking over the actual term moba, your example is flawed though, unless basketball was played online 
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On October 18 2013 23:11 brieN wrote:
havent they changed the name like 10 times and was suppose to come out before dota 2 did? blizzard, silly goose
When it started it was something completely different in scope.
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Does anyone else feel that it is a bit exaggerated to think of this as an announcement? They changed the name and Carbot made a 1:40 min. video and that is basicly it. There is no new information at all.
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On October 19 2013 00:00 shadymmj wrote:
i fail to see how a video that reveals nothing at all has generated 20 pages of mostly pure speculation
Most of it is just bashing Blizzard for being so late to the MOBA party. Pretty laughable how Blizz's apparent progress on this game seems to be a content-free cartoon video and a terribad, generic name change. If this release and name was meant to generate hype they need to fire their marketing team.
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On October 19 2013 00:13 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:00 shadymmj wrote:
i fail to see how a video that reveals nothing at all has generated 20 pages of mostly pure speculation Most of it is just bashing Blizzard for being so late to the MOBA party. Pretty laughable how Blizz's apparent progress on this game seems to be a content-free cartoon video and a terribad, generic name change. If this release and name was meant to generate hype they need to fire their marketing team.
Well it actually worked, no? We have 20 pages right now, everybody will watch the actual gameplay footage from blizzcon now i guess..
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On October 19 2013 00:13 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:00 shadymmj wrote:
i fail to see how a video that reveals nothing at all has generated 20 pages of mostly pure speculation Most of it is just bashing Blizzard for being so late to the MOBA party. Pretty laughable how Blizz's apparent progress on this game seems to be a content-free cartoon video and a terribad, generic name change. If this release and name was meant to generate hype they need to fire their marketing team.
Well, it is a teaser. We also have no idea how much the game has changed since they last showed it. The only thing I know is that it has some interesting mechanics that make it really different from other moba's on the market with the exception of maybe Smite and Awesomenauts.
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I don't even....
This has to be a joke...
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On October 19 2013 00:09 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 23:59 Noocta wrote:On October 18 2013 23:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Blizzard invented the MOBA with aeon of strife, now they're officially joining the MOBA with HotS. Blizzard didn't do shit, modders did lol. Blizzard though the idea was stupid and now they are biting their own tongue because they missed the new World of Warcraft. While Blizzard didn't do anything, how did you arrive at the conclusion that Blizzard thought the idea was stupid? Or are you just trying to stomp Blizzard down a bit?
Blizzard also didn't think much of it because Turret Defense, Lurker Defense, and bad RPG maps like Day in School and DBZ were so much more popular than Aeon of Strife.
Defense of the Ancients in Warcraft3 was eventually the game that got big, but at that point Warcraft 3 was also going big as an esport with Blizzard hedging its bets on Warcraft 3 tournaments and not custom games.
By the time Blizzard realized what it was sitting on, the rights were bought up and Dota2 was developed along with the release of LoL and HoN.
So no, Blizzard didn't try to cash-in on a niche custom map when they thought the future of gaming was Boxer and Grubby and not the UMS map system they had created.
But much like the grand majority of global esports, it always seems to tie back to Blizzard.
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On October 19 2013 00:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:07 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 18 2013 23:37 tadL wrote:
ehm no, the first multiplayer online battle arena was STAR, right? And the first I played was quake. So sry but moba means nothing and does not define the genre at all. Quake was a top down view unit management game where you defended towers and killed creep marching across three lanes while you leveled up heroes at home in order to help your army push lanes until you killed the enemy Nexus? Because I thought Quake was a first person shooter. Because if you're simply talking about a multiplayer game with 5 people on each side then I guess Basketball is a MOBA and started before videogames were invented. He is nitpicking over the actual term moba, your example is flawed though, unless basketball was played online
If I called my friends over on a dial up does that count 
lol lol lol
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On October 19 2013 00:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:13 Scarecrow wrote:On October 19 2013 00:00 shadymmj wrote:
i fail to see how a video that reveals nothing at all has generated 20 pages of mostly pure speculation Most of it is just bashing Blizzard for being so late to the MOBA party. Pretty laughable how Blizz's apparent progress on this game seems to be a content-free cartoon video and a terribad, generic name change. If this release and name was meant to generate hype they need to fire their marketing team. Well it actually worked, no? We have 20 pages right now, everybody will watch the actual gameplay footage from blizzcon now i guess..
No, it didn't work. Having 20 pages of mostly negative comments is the opposite of hype. It only drew attention because it's Blizzard not some random company.
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On October 19 2013 00:13 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:00 shadymmj wrote:
i fail to see how a video that reveals nothing at all has generated 20 pages of mostly pure speculation Most of it is just bashing Blizzard for being so late to the MOBA party. Pretty laughable how Blizz's apparent progress on this game seems to be a content-free cartoon video and a terribad, generic name change. If this release and name was meant to generate hype they need to fire their marketing team.
I dunno mang, I'm considerably more hyped for this game than I was at any time in the previous year.
Sounds to me like they did their job. You vocal doom-criers aren't the majority, don't interpret the amount of blizzard bashing you're seeing in this thread as any indication of the reaction that the video has garnered from anyone but those vocal in a single TL thread. The video's got 345,619 views, and a vastly higher number of thumbs ups than thumbs downs. If nothing else that alone shows that the posters in this thread are a tiny number of people who have watched the video.
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This trailer is really good. Cabot made such improvement from the begining. It's smooth and colorfull.
As for the game i like people bashing saying stuff etc... we don't know nothing about it. They could have change direction from blizzard all stars... We don't know.
Wait and see people.. No need to go "is this a joke ?", "this will be a bad game", "they are late" etc...
If this release and name was meant to generate hype they need to fire their marketing team.
Well... using carbot who might be the most popular cartoon animator on the gaming community (at least starcraft's... Which is a blizzard game) i think their marketing are kind of genius...
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On October 19 2013 00:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
This trailer is really good. Cabot made such improvement from the begining. It's smooth and colorfull.
As for the game i like people bashing saying stuff etc... we don't know nothing about it. They could have change direction from blizzard all stars... We don't know.
Wait and see people.. No need to go "is this a joke ?", "this will be a bad game", "they are late" etc...
the thumbs up could very well for the animation, not the game itself because the video didn't show a thing
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On October 19 2013 00:26 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
This trailer is really good. Cabot made such improvement from the begining. It's smooth and colorfull.
As for the game i like people bashing saying stuff etc... we don't know nothing about it. They could have change direction from blizzard all stars... We don't know.
Wait and see people.. No need to go "is this a joke ?", "this will be a bad game", "they are late" etc... the thumbs up could very well for the animation, not the game itself because the video didn't show a thing
Of course it didn't... If Carbot's heart of the swarm opening was realised before the hots intro cynematic it would have been the same thing... Maybe they thought that it would be nice to have the carbot one before it ?
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On October 19 2013 00:23 darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 19 2013 00:13 Scarecrow wrote:On October 19 2013 00:00 shadymmj wrote:
i fail to see how a video that reveals nothing at all has generated 20 pages of mostly pure speculation Most of it is just bashing Blizzard for being so late to the MOBA party. Pretty laughable how Blizz's apparent progress on this game seems to be a content-free cartoon video and a terribad, generic name change. If this release and name was meant to generate hype they need to fire their marketing team. Well it actually worked, no? We have 20 pages right now, everybody will watch the actual gameplay footage from blizzcon now i guess.. No, it didn't work. Having 20 pages of mostly negative comments is the opposite of hype. It only drew attention because it's Blizzard not some random company.
Any announcement Blizzard makes gets pages upon pages of negative comments, even if it is good news.
Hearthstone? WTF IS THIS CRAP
D3 expansion? GOING TO SUCK
Anything that Blizzard does is wrong in the eyes of people, even though their games are consistently well above the average game, then polished beyond that even. People here hate Blizzard, then go off and play and enjoy Blizzard games. It is the nastiest of bandwagons.
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On October 19 2013 00:26 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
This trailer is really good. Cabot made such improvement from the begining. It's smooth and colorfull.
As for the game i like people bashing saying stuff etc... we don't know nothing about it. They could have change direction from blizzard all stars... We don't know.
Wait and see people.. No need to go "is this a joke ?", "this will be a bad game", "they are late" etc... the thumbs up could very well for the animation, not the game itself because the video didn't show a thing
Most of the negativity stems from the name as well as the fact that its taking so long to develop. The video was entertaining despite the fact that its announcing a change in name that many people, including me, find much, much worse.
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People seem to forget how much the DotA genre owes to blizzard. Without wc3 there would be no LoL or DotA. Aeon of strife also goes way back so please don't come in and say Dota started it all.
LoL is derived from Dota Allstars which is derived from Dota by Eul on the wc3 platform, the idea of which is derived from AoS which was a new-style funky BW custom map. So who wants to claim ownership?
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So what i learned from this thread is that people chose and play games for their names... So if the name of the game is not good they don't like / won't buy it...
Interesting mentality.
It's a legitimate question (really) : "Do you care of the name of the game that you are playing ?"
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On October 19 2013 00:33 FFW_Rude wrote:
So what i learned from this thread is that people chose and play games for their names... So if the name of the game is not good they don't like / won't buy it...
Interesting mentality.
It's a legitimate question (really) : "Do you care of the name of the game that you are playing ?"
I was going to bring this up too.
They're all bitching about the acronym of the name (in this case it's a word, so acronym fits). It's the same as another acronym, so obviously it's bad.
Personally, I think everyone that thinks it having the same acronym as another game's (expansion mind you, we can just as easily call hots sc2 because it is sc2 and wol is kind of irrelevant) acronym is stupid is nitpicking to the point of ridiculousness. They're totally different styles of games, and it's only a matter of time before we're not playine heart of the swarm anymore. Honestly, it's like nobody's happy unless they can be angry about some pointless detail.
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On October 19 2013 00:13 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:00 shadymmj wrote:
i fail to see how a video that reveals nothing at all has generated 20 pages of mostly pure speculation Most of it is just bashing Blizzard for being so late to the MOBA party. Pretty laughable how Blizz's apparent progress on this game seems to be a content-free cartoon video and a terribad, generic name change. If this release and name was meant to generate hype they need to fire their marketing team.
nah, u're being too critical.
"The marketing team" can only work with what they are permitted to show.
Pardo stated several times they've been revealing details of their "games in progress" too early in the development cycle.
For example, SC2 was announced in May 2007.
Blizzard is keeping the detailed game play hidden longer than they have in the past.
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