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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
I am pretty sure they did not even know if these maps would work once outside blizz, which as you can see with some maps like Haunted Mines it's not working. As someone who's played probably a dozen games of Heroes and still not hit some maps more than once - what's wrong with haunted mines and where are you getting that info? what high level sources, i mean | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Honestly up to lvl 4 is ok, but after the 1st mines it's just like "omg let the game end". Even when ahead. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On October 25 2014 00:45 Diamond wrote: Problem with Haunted Mines as higher MMR's is the map is so small and snowbally, that often the game is decided @ lvl 4 (1st mines). It's an almost impossible to come back from map, and due to it's small size and things like only 3 merc camps, has very little room to be creative. Honestly up to lvl 4 is ok, but after the 1st mines it's just like "omg let the game end". Even when ahead. I feel "omg let them end" in all of the maps except the curse map. Other maps give you some strong shit that AI take care of their base while you either push more or grab other neuts to snowball more. In curse map you can stand and depush the lanes to some extent. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Dragon Shire allows you to rotate to whatever shrine the opponents are not at and take mercs, Cursed has alot of great ambush areas, Blackheart's has the possibility of donating dozens of coins in one teamfight (as well as many good ambush areas), and Garden has 180 seeds per night cycle. Mines just gets worse and worse after level 4 when behind, and even when ahead it just feels like going thru the motions instead of creative play. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
Not a fan of picking a hero before knowing what map you're playing on. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
Also Marksman is based off creep kills not globe consumption -- for whatever reason it plays different | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
The mana/globe talent is win more. Very helpful when winning as it lets you just keep pushing without having to go back for mana, but if you're behind you can't always get orbs, you aren't getting orbs from merc camps, and your mana matters a lot less. I've used both extensively and pretty much always would have rather had another rank 1 talent. *This is assuming you win so hard that you can afford to splitpush a lane for the first 5-7 minutes while your team wins the game for you. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
The others are map/hero dependent. Never take them on Haunted Mines. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On October 24 2014 19:01 KeksX wrote: The point about Nova feels valid and I obviously can't tell much about the hero feeling apart from the fact that I heard people having a different opinion. Well, technically Nova's snipe and pining and triple tap are all psionically enhanced. But more importantly, I think they'll add Tosh eventually as a psionic version of the ghost/spectre concept. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On October 25 2014 05:58 Diamond wrote: Marksmen is actually very strong on some maps. You don't have to last hit anymore. The others are map/hero dependent. Never take them on Haunted Mines. When did they change it? I must have missed it in the patch notes. | ||
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
Wish I had an invite though  | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On October 25 2014 09:30 magnaflow wrote: I kind of like that there are good maps, and not so good maps. Gives Blizzard a good idea of what works, and what doesn't. Games coming along great IMO, can't wait too see whats next! Wish I had an invite though Well its the natural order of things. You need to test concepts and have some bad maps before you can make good maps. Given that its only alpha and we have some fun maps and concepts I have high hopes for the future. Also it is sort of refreshing seeing hero design based more on the lore of the heroes rather then meta. All though given that the game is still in its infancy its probably too early to talk about any sort of meta. Edit: I hope that Heroes tournaments will also feature map vetos along with hero vetoes. I love the hero pick and ban phase in DoTA and combining it with the map veto system from SC2 would really test a team's ability to research, adapt and counter another team. | ||
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Capresis
United States518 Posts
And where's my key, dammit! I signed up for beta on day 1. | ||
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0K31qso.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LhfZw2k.jpg) Has this happened to anyone else? This just happened to me three games in a row, within the span of 5-10 minutes. I get this screen and have to exit out. Then, when I get back in, I don't have the option to reconnect, so I just queue again. The first game, it was 15-20 minutes into the game. In the second two games, it happened within the first 2 minutes of the match starting. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
On October 25 2014 02:03 Serejai wrote: Merc camps are an issue on a few maps. Pick someone like Gazlowe and you're either going to be really bad or really good, depending on whether you got the map with three merc camps or the map with ten merc camps. Not a fan of picking a hero before knowing what map you're playing on. Yeah I don't really understand this. I think the heroes are clearly designed to be better and worse on different maps and with different teammates and enemies. But they've designed their system so that hero picks are made based on neither maps nor other players' picks. They need an overhaul on one or the other. In the meantime they have an embarrassing lack of communication between the teams in charge of hero design and matchmaking. Honestly the Blizzcon tournament is gonna be a joke if they don't fix this by then. Custom matches where the teams agree on a map and to reveal each other's picks are obviously more legit. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
No way Blizzcon is blind pick. | ||
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