Heroes Large General Thread - Page 138

On October 17 2014 23:01 Cyro wrote:


I have not bought MOP, but the price for MOP+WOD together - after multiple free 10 day trial handouts - is £39.99 - i paid at least £30 for TBC and WOTLK (i believe £30 exactly, each), so it looks like that price increase is only in the US.

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On October 17 2014 20:33 zeo wrote:
OK, so I got into beta yesterday and this is my assessment so far (I'm lvl 6)

This game has big big server problems as well as problems with net-code, the slightest internet activity outside of hots = insta-lag. I would just like to say I love the detail and look of the hero models and that part of the game is by far the best, that said however controlling the heroes is horrible and very unnatural/unintuitive. At least for anyone used to RTS or DOTA like games. Why is mouse scroll locked? Its so silly I have to click on the minimap if I want to see something outside my heroes screen. Not being able to click on enemy heroes is also weird, I know that they don't have items ect. but clicking on creeps and units should not interfere with game-play...

On October 17 2014 22:12 Serejai wrote:


That last part is not entirely true. On certain maps the best strategy is to hit level 10 as fast as possible. Of course, you can't just tunnel vision and ONLY lane... but sometimes hitting level 10 first is more important than completing an objective, so there are times where sitting in a lane is beneficial. Saying "farming doesn't matter" is a pretty broad generalization, although you're correct in that it's usually not the best use of time.

On October 17 2014 23:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
Considering inflation, you've actually just been getting games for cheaper and cheaper over the course of the last quite a few years tbh.

I don't think mild pricing structure adjustments are wildly out of line, despite the fact that I too have very negative perceptions of blizzard.

On October 18 2014 02:36 xDaunt wrote:

Games are ridiculously cheap when you think about it. How much are you willing to spend for an hour of entertainment? $1? $5? $10? Presuming that you don't buy a game that is a total piece of shit that you will never play again after first trying it, you almost certainly will get your money's worth. There really isn't a better $/time entertainment proposition out there. Yeah, HotS hero prices are insulting when compared to other games, but it's hard to say that you aren't going to get your money's worth out of dropping $10 on a hero that you will probably play for 10+ hours worth of games.

On October 18 2014 02:43 Sn0_Man wrote:

HotS's business is a disgusting money grab with no redeeming features and as I've said in other threads, there's literally no defense. The very concept of paying for heroes is insulting to intelligent gamers at a fundamental level.

But you can't possibly complain that a 10% increase in monthly subscription fees for a game that is 10 years old is unreasonable. You've steadily been paying less and less for that subscription as inflation occurs, and chances are you'll be paying less for it post-hike than you were paying when the game was released in terms of "2004 dollars" or w/e.

Basically, games going from $60->$70 is simply inflation and expected. Games going from $60->$60+$40 day 1 DLC etc is simply price gouging and a disgusting business practice that should be purged from the industry asap.

On October 18 2014 03:19 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
I do think they should give more gold, but it think its not as bad as people think.

For example, there is a daily to recieve 800 gold by playing 8 matches. Even if you lost all the matches you get 160 gold. That makes it 960 gold. Next day you recieve a quest that says "play 2 matches with a sc2 hero", you play them, lose both because you are fuckin terrible, recieve 40 gold, and 200 gold from the quest.

Now you've got 1200 gold.

Lets say you don't play more matches until the next day when you recieve a quest that says "play 3 matches with an assasin". You played them. Lose again. Start wondering why you are even playing the game, but then you realize that its not your fault, its your teammate's. Fuck your team mates, fckin noobs. But anyway, you recieve 60 gold +300 from the daily.

Now you've got 1560 gold.

And finally, the next day you recieve another 300 gold quest. You do it, but this time you obviously win the 3 matches, because you are awesome and this time your team mates didn't suck as bad. You earned 390 gold.


1950.

The fifth day you play some matches and then you finally achieve 2000 gold. Then you can buy that hero that you've always wanted.

Now, 5 days or one week to unlock a hero seems reasonable to me (that is obviosly, withouth addind leveling bonus). And I'm fine with some heroes being more expensive than others, so maybe some of then take 2 weeks, maybe some almost 3. The problem i think are those 15k gold heroes. Thats a lot of time.

But there are a lot of things that can be done about it. Make them cheaper, inscrease gold per match a little, or even gift a hero when you achieve some level.

One thing to take into account is that the game isn't finished. As some have pointed out, it makes no sense that the max lvl is 40, when the last reward is at lvl 15. Why not have 15 be the maximun level then? I think Blizzard is going to implement something, possibly after blizzcon, so lets wait at see.

On October 18 2014 04:25 Catch]22 wrote:
I only play 1/10th of all Dota2 heroes, the urge to instantly unlock all is not that large. Although I do agree that Dotas model is better than this LoL-inspired one.