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eviltomahawk
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HackBenjamin
Canada1094 Posts
I have not always been successful in containing my rage. Mostly because people are either ignoring the team completely or they have great scores indicating they know what they are doing but they just do everything alone with no regard for anyone but themselves. | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On August 02 2014 01:44 HackBenjamin wrote: I have to fight the urge to rage some times. It's mind blowing how terrible people are despite several polite requests to have them join the team for the team brawls, or watch the minimap, or help grab towers/shrines, etc. I have not always been successful in containing my rage. Mostly because people are either ignoring the team completely or they have great scores indicating they know what they are doing but they just do everything alone with no regard for anyone but themselves. Well, obviously it sucks if people are good and aren't team-playing. But this IS a lot of people's first MOBA, so a lot of people are brand spanking new. Just think about how terrible your map awareness was when you first played an RTS. With a larger population, hopefully there will be less of a skill differential in a team. But always, just try to be courteous and helpful where relevant (not: You fucking suck, but instead: remember to drop everything when there's a teamfight going on/being pinged). Pings also help new players a lot with knowing what to do and pay attention to. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States3311 Posts
Source: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/15056492/ | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/15056492/update-on-artifacts-and-talent-unlocks-8-1-2014 | ||
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Krossfire
Australia1071 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5472 Posts
 I'm liking Tassadar a lot! | ||
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BlacKcuD
Germany107 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/2cix8u/hello_my_name_is_esvdiamond_and_i_would_like_to/ | ||
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Deleted User 26513
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On August 03 2014 14:31 deth2munkies wrote: Artifacts were fine, the leveling system is horrifyingly bad. I have no idea why every game has to crowbar an experience/leveling system just because CoD started using it. Can you elaborate on that ? Why is the leveling system worse than the artifacts ? Especially now, when they increased the xp rate. Is it bad just because CoD uses it and you don't like CoD or there is legit reason behind that ? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
On August 03 2014 14:31 deth2munkies wrote: Artifacts were fine, the leveling system is horrifyingly bad. I have no idea why every game has to crowbar an experience/leveling system just because CoD started using it. The very basic premise of Artifacts sucks. You should NOT have to grind for additional power on your hero. Period. It's a gating system that doesn't do anything except put a big ass barrier on playing a new hero. It's a shit system. | ||
digmouse
China6332 Posts
On August 04 2014 07:33 Vindicare605 wrote: The very basic premise of Artifacts sucks. You should NOT have to grind for additional power on your hero. Period. It's a gating system that doesn't do anything except put a big ass barrier on playing a new hero. It's a shit system. The biggest problem is for such a late unlock, the benefit is straight game breaking, and the difference between level 1 and level 10 is atrocious, I don't understand how such a system got passed the eyes of any sane designer. | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On August 04 2014 07:37 digmouse wrote: I don't understand how such a system got passed the eyes of any sane designer. Have you ever read up on the shit that got tested in Starcraft 2's alpha stage? (which was not public, but was absolutely a polished game undergoing balance tests for literally years.) There's some crazy crap that gets bandied about in alphas. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12261 Posts
On August 04 2014 07:44 Yoav wrote: Have you ever read up on the shit that got tested in Starcraft 2's alpha stage? (which was not public, but was absolutely a polished game undergoing balance tests for literally years.) There's some crazy crap that gets bandied about in alphas. Which is totally fine by the way. It's good to experiment broadly on even the most basic things, just so you get a feel of whether or not that's an avenue you're willing to travel. Eventually you'll land on something that just clicks for your game, and you'll want to dig deeper. I think a lot of people are blowing the Artifacts system out of proportion because it's obviously going to be very unpopular, it was just a matter of time before Blizzard saw that themselves. Nevertheless, it's great that the community has such a watchful eye and reacts quickly to design changes with feedback, be it positive or negative. Blizzard would really have been in trouble if this was something that were introduced at launch, but for now, just let them continue to iterate. Constant iteration breeds quality. | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On August 04 2014 07:55 Excalibur_Z wrote: Which is totally fine by the way. It's good to experiment broadly on even the most basic things, just so you get a feel of whether or not that's an avenue you're willing to travel. Eventually you'll land on something that just clicks for your game, and you'll want to dig deeper. I think a lot of people are blowing the Artifacts system out of proportion because it's obviously going to be very unpopular, it was just a matter of time before Blizzard saw that themselves. Nevertheless, it's great that the community has such a watchful eye and reacts quickly to design changes with feedback, be it positive or negative. Blizzard would really have been in trouble if this was something that were introduced at launch, but for now, just let them continue to iterate. Constant iteration breeds quality. Absolutely. It's QC like that that makes great games. Hey, if D3 had an alpha like this, maybe it would have been good at launch. (For whatever it's worth, I think how much better D3 has gotten since release is a triumph. But it was too late for everybody's review/first impression.) | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On August 04 2014 07:22 Pr0wler wrote: Can you elaborate on that ? Why is the leveling system worse than the artifacts ? Especially now, when they increased the xp rate. Is it bad just because CoD uses it and you don't like CoD or there is legit reason behind that ? Basically, every online multiplayer game needs "progression" or people get bored. Most games choose some kind of leveling system, but in order for that to work, it has to gate content. In this case, it gates content behind both hero and player level and hides FUNDAMENTAL parts of the game behind them. Given there's no matchmaking or ranked/unranked play, you have to either practice against AI for tiny XP gains or play a bunch of Vs. matches gimped until your champion is high enough to use their talents and your player is high enough to get daily quests and free heroes to actually start unlocking more heroes (this part isn't as bad with champion levels in). Artifacts allowed you to further accentuate your character's strengths or shore up their weaknesses, or to go somewhat unconventional builds. The balancing and scaling was way off and they cost way too much gold to upgrade, but the concept was sound. Playing without artifacts is so much easier than playing without being able to use half your skills. The reason why this works for CoD is because there aren't many strict upgrades. Sure, gating useful perks is annoying, but games and leveling are much faster than HotS/LoL/DotA. Most of the upgrades you get in CoD are just different guns that aren't strict upgrades. In HotS, everything that you unlock is a strict power upgrade. More skills is never bad. I would rather XP be used to buy Artifacts and have them in the game than have to play 10-20 games completely gimped with every single hero before I can actually use them. The LoL system is much worse, and the DotA system is just annoying, but this is still bad. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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