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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 19:26:20
April 19 2016 19:26 GMT
#21
Hate to be negative but after about a third I had to stop reading this cause my eyes were hurting - I don't understand why you guys still have these horribly small card pictures for your reviews, the card texts are so hard to read.
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Vaudevillain2
Profile Joined August 2015
2 Posts
April 20 2016 01:01 GMT
#22
The optimists are really more annoying than the OP. You guys are sucking the fun out of this, just go away. You are the same people who continue to give Reynad and Trump grief for sharing their personal opinion on cards a YEAR ago. Who really cares that X card turned out to suck or Dr. Boom was actually broken, its entertainment not a mandate to 'be right' or "fail the community" (paraphrasing.)

The ONE time Team Liquid flat out called something trash they get called out on it. Jesus. There were too many 7s TBH, they probably were worried about flamers and trolls so they did an aggregate average opinion.

What was weird for me was all the obvious auto-includes like Master of Evolution that just got 7. Its like they tried to keep things beige and boring because they knew the community would have a shitfit if they called something a 10 and they goof on one card and its a debate.

All we can do is preview the cards, put our opinions out there and then PLAY THE CARDS. That's really all their is.

Sorry for caps but felt like underlining that point. FWIW everyone in the streamer scene and pro scene called that card trash so its going to be a shock if it gets run a lot IMHO.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
April 20 2016 02:05 GMT
#23
On April 20 2016 10:01 Vaudevillain2 wrote:
The optimists are really more annoying than the OP. You guys are sucking the fun out of this, just go away. You are the same people who continue to give Reynad and Trump grief for sharing their personal opinion on cards a YEAR ago. Who really cares that X card turned out to suck or Dr. Boom was actually broken, its entertainment not a mandate to 'be right' or "fail the community" (paraphrasing.)

I think you're confusing optimism for being an asshole, and I wouldn't call myself an optimist anyway.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
April 20 2016 05:36 GMT
#24
This could work well with low-cost stealth or charge creatures, however, outside of Druid of the Saber there really aren’t any attractive cards to fill this roll.


What about the 3/2 for 3 mana that pops a 1-drop ? Is that rotating out? I thought it was brm
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Old_Guardian
Profile Joined February 2016
Finland0 Posts
April 20 2016 10:44 GMT
#25
On April 20 2016 14:36 Douillos wrote:
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This could work well with low-cost stealth or charge creatures, however, outside of Druid of the Saber there really aren’t any attractive cards to fill this roll.


What about the 3/2 for 3 mana that pops a 1-drop ? Is that rotating out? I thought it was brm


Mounted Raptor is from League of Explorers, it will remain in Standard for another year.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
April 20 2016 11:37 GMT
#26
Also BRM isn't rotating out either.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
FryBender
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
April 20 2016 13:32 GMT
#27
I think that the problem of saying that a card is unplayable just shows how shortsighted you really are. And the funny thing is that this just happened with LoE, and LH even published an article explaining how they got things so wrong (saying that Elise and Reno were unplayable etc...). I would have thought that you would have learned your lesson and put a little more thought into the potential for each card.

There is a problem in general in the HS meta where people have very little imagination and they seem to think that the only good cards (and decks) are things that the pros are bringing to tournaments. But the fact that you can only bring one deck per class to a tournament makes it so that often anything but the absolute best from each class is "unplayable". For instance I don't know why you're saying that soul of the forest is unplayable. It is actually an extremely important card for aggro druid. Now just because midrange druid is better at the moment doesn't make aggro druid automatically bad. It's actually a very good deck by itself (and depending on how the FoN/CoW combo is nerfed might become stronger than midrange). I'm not saying that infest is going to be a great card but there is definitely combo potential there. This review offers no new insights into any of the cards and just seems to parrot what the rest of the community is already saying (mainly evaluating future cards based on today's meta). Being so shortsighted in your reviews just means you're going to have to publish another review of a review explaining how you were so wrong.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 20 2016 16:37 GMT
#28
I'd say that rather than the idea of calling cards unplayable being bad, people are just too eager to do it. Gnomeregan Infantry, for example, is blatantly unplayable, as is The Boogeymonster. It's not so easy to call cards with novel effects unplayable, in contrast. Calling Elise and Reno unplayable is going too far in that respect. The Tentacles rating might be just a little extreme, but the card really is so expensive that it's difficult to fit it into your mana expenditure at any stage of the game. I'm not really mad about them calling it out for its price.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 17:53:07
April 20 2016 17:52 GMT
#29
Now let's not get carried away. I know some guys want to jump all over them for being too harsh and not seeing the 'obvious' value in something like Infest.

But I'm willing to bet those people who went back to hammer the reviews for missing Dr. Boom are the same people who poured all over them for loving Troggzor the Earthinator.

Besides, some of the praise for the poorly reviewed cards is starting to read like this:
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/hearthstone/492937-final-tgt-card-evaluation?page=4#76 (not to pick on Volband, but this post always stuck out on me for praising all the poorly reviewed cards will absolutely mocking them for liking what turned out to be the best card in the set).

And for people who talk about them being too narrow and not considering new decks. Did you already forget this entire series about possible new decks when TGT launched?

http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/constructed-strategy/493539-deck-ideas-midrange-shaman-and-secret-mage
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/constructed-strategy/493633-deck-ideas-dragon-priest-and-aggro-paladin
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/constructed-strategy/493768-deck-ideas-token-druid-and-tempo-rogue
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/constructed-strategy/493904-deck-ideas-dragonlock-and-beast-hunter
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/constructed-strategy/493986-deck-ideas-secret-paladin-and-dreadlock
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/constructed-strategy/494085-deck-ideas-dragon-pally-and-pirate-rogue
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