EPTIts time to slay Face Hunters !!!
Upcoming Balance Change to Warsong Commander - Page 8
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
Its time to slay Face Hunters !!! | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On October 16 2015 04:44 Inzan1ty wrote: Excellent news, time to pull out the trustworthy Control warrior. Its time to slay Face Hunters !!! Sadly Patron was keeping midrange paladin in check. Without Patron more mid range paladins will come out and they kinda shit on control warrior | ||
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Glacierz
United States1244 Posts
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Tresher
Germany404 Posts
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/patron-warrior-nerf-patron-warrior-not-dead/ First I thought it will be a dead Deck archetype too but I changed my Mind. It will still be playable but your Patrons don´t have charge now | ||
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Noidberg
United States17 Posts
On October 16 2015 05:39 Tresher wrote: People may find this interesting: http://hearthstoneplayers.com/patron-warrior-nerf-patron-warrior-not-dead/ First I thought it will be a dead Deck archetype too but I changed my Mind. It will still be playable but your Patrons don´t have charge now Yup i thought about how that charge spell could work with patrons and stuff. Hope its not broken lol. You can still do your turn 5-6 flood the board with patrons into a charge worgan next turn. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On October 16 2015 07:11 Noidberg wrote: Yup i thought about how that charge spell could work with patrons and stuff. Hope its not broken lol. You can still do your turn 5-6 flood the board with patrons into a charge worgan next turn. Without charging the Patrons you have no comeback mechanic against faster decks so you need to run at least one Brawl if not two. My first cuts to make that Worgen deck work would be Patrons and Battle Rage because both cards kinda rely on you not being behind which is alot harder to archive now. | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
I for one am glad to see Patron die. Heavy-handed nerf? Yes, but having faced it for six months already on ladder, I won't miss the deck at all. The only criticisms I have of the decision are 1) it's right before the HWS which is pretty unfair to players who have spent hundreds of hours practicing with Patron and 2) the nerf makes Warrior even worse in arena. People complain about the deck for months, and then when it dies it suddenly becomes their long-lost puppy. Patron did have some things going for it. It was difficult to play, and interesting for a limited period of time, but having it repeatedly shoved in your face on ladder and in every major tournament quickly put an end to that. Sorry Tiddler, but not everyone agrees that your "beloved Patron" was a deck worth saving. Like many, I am sick and tired of the deck's constant presence, and I'm happy to see it forever removed. Patron had a good run and now it's time to play something else. | ||
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Noidberg
United States17 Posts
On October 16 2015 07:48 s3rp wrote: Without charging the Patrons you have no comeback mechanic against faster decks so you need to run at least one Brawl if not two. My first cuts to make that Worgen deck work would be Patrons and Battle Rage because both cards kinda rely on you not being behind which is alot harder to archive now. The spirit of the deck is patrons after all else its a just a charge worgen deck. The site lists a frothing version which id like to see top players try and pilot, maybe its semi competitive, maybe its competitive. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10655 Posts
i think just nerfing thaurissan wouldve been enough to hurt patron war without completely butchering it. but blizz will be blizz i guess. | ||
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Solmyr
Poland261 Posts
Can somebody save HS. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On October 16 2015 02:01 Acritter wrote: Starving Buzzard was nerfed waaaaaaay before GvG. It was nerfed before Naxx, even. People were bemoaning Hunter's fate before the entire class got revived with a set of cards that seemed designed for it, and which the class simply does not operate without even now. And then people started saying "See? The Buzzard nerf was fine! Hunter is more resilient than that!" when the class was given some of the most inherently broken cards in the game to work with. In fact, it's the shift between Basic and Naxx which has shaped Hunter into the face class which it has never gone beyond since. This is one of the things that frustrates me about nerf apologists. There's no understanding about the history of the game, which lends itself to a distorted view of what this nerf means. I went back and looked up the patch timings since I was going off memory when I posted. Both Starving Buzzard and Leeroy were nerfed roughly a month after Naxx came out (Naxx was mid June - August, nerf was in September). The stated reason was because they hoped the Naxx meta would 'fix them' but since it didn't so in came the nerf bat. The exact same timing applied to Undertaker, GvG came out December, Undertaker was nerfed January. I got the expansion wrong for the Starving Buzzard nerf but it pretty much coincided with an expansion release is my point. I guess in that light, Warsong was also nerfed because TGT couldn't 'fix' the problems with it. If you're going to give me crap about 'not understanding the history of the game' then maybe you should check your facts too? | ||
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imallin
United States17 Posts
Death's bite on 4 into Patron/Inner Rage + swing is still a very powerful opening. Most aggro decks will still straight up lose to this. On the flip side, not having your win condition revolve completely around OTK'ing control decks is kind of nice. Don't get me wrong, this nerf will hurt a lot, and the deck can no longer do disgusting things, but I'm not convinced that this is the last we will see of the Grim Patron card in Warrior. | ||
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Madars
Latvia166 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On October 17 2015 03:12 Madars wrote: I think after the patch every minion card with 3 or less attack that warrior can put in deck should be disenchanted at full price since that's all the cards that Warsong Commander affected. You could hardly have made that sound more like entitled whining if you tried. | ||
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AzureD
United States320 Posts
On October 16 2015 10:36 FuRong wrote: I don't understand why there is so much crying over the death of a deck that was widely hated. I for one am glad to see Patron die. Heavy-handed nerf? Yes, but having faced it for six months already on ladder, I won't miss the deck at all. The only criticisms I have of the decision are 1) it's right before the HWS which is pretty unfair to players who have spent hundreds of hours practicing with Patron and 2) the nerf makes Warrior even worse in arena. People complain about the deck for months, and then when it dies it suddenly becomes their long-lost puppy. Patron did have some things going for it. It was difficult to play, and interesting for a limited period of time, but having it repeatedly shoved in your face on ladder and in every major tournament quickly put an end to that. Sorry Tiddler, but not everyone agrees that your "beloved Patron" was a deck worth saving. Like many, I am sick and tired of the deck's constant presence, and I'm happy to see it forever removed. Patron had a good run and now it's time to play something else. The deck was not hated that much. Vast majority of people wanted a slight nerf. Not complete removal. The deck was not even that powerful except in the hands of the top .01% of players. Even at it's height Patron Warrior was a deck that I preyed upon when climbing to legend as these 15-5 rank Patron players where often easy wins. | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On October 17 2015 05:18 NewSunshine wrote: You could hardly have made that sound more like entitled whining if you tried. True, but I bet a good number of people crafted golden Dread Corsair, Inner Rage, Frothing Berserker, Battle Rage, and Grim Patron, many of which may not see play again. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On October 17 2015 08:20 Dromar wrote: True, but I bet a good number of people crafted golden Dread Corsair, Inner Rage, Frothing Berserker, Battle Rage, and Grim Patron, many of which may not see play again. Crafting gold cards is a committment to the deck you use them in, whatever may happen. And honestly, if you crafted numerous golden cards for your Patron Warrior deck thinking it wasn't going anywhere, I don't know what to say. At the very least, several pros began practicing with other decks for fear of the deck getting nerfed, the public was outraging, the writing seemed to be on the wall. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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Iknowwhy
Albania0 Posts
btw where are all the inspire decks? Oh and i forgot the kick ass rogue decks with the new dagger, these new tgt cards are all sooo good. | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On October 18 2015 05:12 Iknowwhy wrote: nerf a complex and fun to play deck into oblivion. btw where are all the inspire decks? Oh and i forgot the kick ass rogue decks with the new dagger, these new tgt cards are all sooo good. The irony of the new Rogue weapon is that it's best with any class other than Rogue. What a wasted opportunity. | ||
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