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Hearthstone issues must be addressed.

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rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
January 09 2015 14:14 GMT
#1
Starcraft 2 was destined to succeed. As a follow up to the most competitive esport title up to that time, brood war, unchallenged in the rts genre with a huge development budget and already established fan base it's really amazing in how bad state the game currently is. No one else than Blizzard is to be blamed for that though. There are so many issues with SC2 that should have been fixed years ago, unfriendly UI, complex yet boring and unrewarding macro that favors lesser amount of bases, deathball fights, balance issues etc. For the most part it seems that Blizzards approach to slow patching of SC2, with bigger (but still too small) changes coming only with new expansions was hugely a failure, advantage exploited very well by blizzards rival companies valve and riot who aggressively patched and changed their games, making them the kings of esports, taking place of where SC2 really should have been.

Hearthstone to some extent, while showing the great potential just like SC2 did is plagued with even more issues, no rewards for reaching higher ranks - gold farming at 20, no catch up system for new players for whom it will take forever to collect the cards, no tournament mode, no arena tournament mode, 9 decks, hunter, no faster turns mode, unbalanced cards (undertaker qq), no auto-squelch (still lol), terrible chat system... And the worst part is that the Blizzard knows about the issues and needed improvements, but instead of experimenting with different ideas and changing things, they seem to be taking the SC2 approach of doing nothing and hoping for the best, which cannot possibly end well. I fear if that continuous, hearthstone will slowly grow for about 12-18 more months, than rapidly start to decline in player base and tournaments like SC2 did until it will be completely unsalvageable. Something has to be done until it will be too late.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
January 09 2015 14:36 GMT
#2
On January 09 2015 23:14 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Something has to be done until it will be too late.


Love that quote. I'm pretty sure we all agree with you about the things we would like to change (besides the QQ you decided to put in which worked against the op in my opinion) but perhaps you could share some ideas on how to actually change them. Remember that blizzards wants this game to run on tablets and maybe even phones so keep that in consideration. I wonder if they will ever branch the the mobile versions and the pc versions apart though. Basically, I wish they would add more features to the PC version and maybe add a less graphic intensive options for the mobile versions. Here's wishing.
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ObamaToss
Profile Joined June 2012
United States24 Posts
January 09 2015 14:37 GMT
#3
I think this belongs on the bnet forums. Also, SC2 is a pretty phenomenal game, blizzard just happens to attract entitled teenagers who prefer to complain about their games, rather than play them. I'm not arguing that there aren't problems, but your treatise on SC2 doesn't really hold water.
The original Obamatoss
MarcoBrei
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil66 Posts
January 09 2015 14:54 GMT
#4
1. more deck slots
2. more deck slots
3. more deck slots
Repomies
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland73 Posts
January 09 2015 16:04 GMT
#5
Personally I'd love to see the option of drafting a constructed deck like you draft an arena deck, except that you draft the deck from the cards you own. I feel that in HS you are sort of alone and there are no good ways to interact with other players or play team games. Playing versus a friend seems so stale and lacks all fun of custom games. Things like these would spice up the game a lot and bring more casual gamers and people who just want to have fun with friends
SiaBBo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland133 Posts
January 09 2015 16:21 GMT
#6
On January 10 2015 01:04 Repomies wrote:
Personally I'd love to see the option of drafting a constructed deck like you draft an arena deck, except that you draft the deck from the cards you own.


You kinda can do that using the "Suggest card" option when making the deck.
hokeypocus
Profile Joined December 2011
United States15 Posts
January 09 2015 16:55 GMT
#7
Although I'm not a programmer and don't fully understand what would be involved, it seems the least they could do would be to provide a Hearthstone editor, like SC2's. There are lots of obvious advantages to this approach.
Penlievskiov
Profile Joined June 2014
Netherlands0 Posts
January 09 2015 17:00 GMT
#8
On January 09 2015 23:54 MarcoBrei wrote:
1. more deck slots
2. more deck slots
3. more deck slots

4. more deck slots
2 per class would be enough actually; That would keep things nice and tidy on the class screen too (the major concern for Blizzard iirc)
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 17:22:01
January 09 2015 17:11 GMT
#9
We don't need more deck slots, we just need the ability to save decklists into some file format that's easily copy and pasteable. So we can swap decks around with ease.


Main concerns from me are:

There is no chat.

Need a true draft format (like how MTG drafts are held) on top of arena and other modes.

There is laggy gui, inputs go slow etc.

Ladder is useless.

Need more modes like KotH/tournament mode so you can have fun with a group of friends and chat etc.

Screenshots and replays need to save in hearthstone folder.

Need replays.

Need to fix this bug where it loads random video/games jumbled up on the boarders of the game while its open.

Need decklists to fit on 1 screen for ease of screenshots, perhaps a toggle to text/details mode.
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 17:33:29
January 09 2015 17:29 GMT
#10
Wow, I am genuinely surprised to see that this thread isn't completely dominated by people saying "everything is fine go away our game is perfect it could never be better." I'm proud of all of you. Of course, as with SC2, concentrated community feedback will likely continue to be largely impotent. That's the Blizzard I know. They seem forever convinced that their one-track-minded approach to just waiting forever while people suffer and quit the game and THEN do something about only the very worst things is 'responsible' rather than too little, too late. And if you want to talk about U.I. fixes or things like deck slots.. ho ho ho, now they really don't care.
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Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 17:33:04
January 09 2015 17:31 GMT
#11
I'm not sure about LOL or Dota2 as I have never played those games.

I would just ask a question than.

Are community in those games is less whiny, complaining than in HS ?

Sure there are a lot of issues but who cares when you are winning.

When you losing on the other hand...

And ofc the biggest problem is warlock hero power. But how can you change that ? That is like admiting terrible design in the first place
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
January 09 2015 17:34 GMT
#12
On January 10 2015 02:31 Solmyr wrote:
That is like admiting terrible design in the first place


Some people are capable of that. Just not Blizzard.
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Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
January 09 2015 17:40 GMT
#13
You would need to change Ragnaros for example or juggler, than people will storm forums, they no longer winning games due to rng and only rng...

You can't satisfy all poeple. Someone has to lose. It's the nature of this bussiness.
mandelised
Profile Joined December 2014
0 Posts
January 09 2015 18:29 GMT
#14
I have been playing a while and can say, you need Nax to even enjoy a game
The matchmaking is attrocious, why at level 20 do i meet players with 3 or 4 legendaries, i have 2 hex or 2 poly
Is this the returning Bot players ??
Casual is even worse.
This is getting to be a grind and not enjoyable.
I see the issue in how it makes money.
Id pay for annnimated cards, interactive battlegrounds.
Id like card rewards for levelling up.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 09 2015 18:55 GMT
#15
On January 09 2015 23:37 ObamaToss wrote:
I think this belongs on the bnet forums. Also, SC2 is a pretty phenomenal game, blizzard just happens to attract entitled teenagers who prefer to complain about their games, rather than play them. I'm not arguing that there aren't problems, but your treatise on SC2 doesn't really hold water.

Well, really? I only got into SCBW in 2008 but still fell in love with it 10+ years after release. I thought that I was a RTS fan and got bored of SC2 in half a year. Just because it has no competition doesn't mean it's phenomenal, in my opinion.
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
January 09 2015 18:56 GMT
#16
Totally agree. Blizzard is just letting his game going without doing too much. There's a thread in the TL:SC2 with about 50 graphic bugs and menus bugs and Blizzard seems just to don't care about it. I'm talking about issues to FIX, nothing about the balance, just errors in the menus and images that have a wrong size. DAMN! And don't talk about hackers... There's a 150 pages thread with replays and reports about maphackers and they are free to play for years without being banned. Somene also streams with maphacking and Blizzard just don't care...

I hope they will work more with their new fresh card game.
Vasacast always in my <3
MarcoBrei
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil66 Posts
January 09 2015 19:06 GMT
#17
On January 10 2015 02:00 Penlievskiov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 23:54 MarcoBrei wrote:
1. more deck slots
2. more deck slots
3. more deck slots

4. more deck slots
2 per class would be enough actually; That would keep things nice and tidy on the class screen too (the major concern for Blizzard iirc)


Actually there is an extremely easy way to have 9 slots per class:
1. In "My collection" first open the screen "Choose your hero", so the player can choose the class first.
2. Then open the collection with 9 deck slots where the player will be able to build and save 9 decks for that specific class.
3. In play mode "Choose your deck" stick the 9 heroes on the slots and show an up/down arrow on each deck name to cycle through decks.

On January 10 2015 02:11 MarlieChurphy wrote:
We don't need more deck slots, we just need the ability to save decklists into some file format that's easily copy and pasteable. So we can swap decks around with ease.


You are just describing a way to have more deck slots. A pretty ugly way, imo.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 09 2015 19:10 GMT
#18
On January 10 2015 04:06 MarcoBrei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 02:00 Penlievskiov wrote:
On January 09 2015 23:54 MarcoBrei wrote:
1. more deck slots
2. more deck slots
3. more deck slots

4. more deck slots
2 per class would be enough actually; That would keep things nice and tidy on the class screen too (the major concern for Blizzard iirc)


Actually there is an extremely easy way to have 9 slots per class:
1. In "My collection" first open the screen "Choose your hero", so the player can choose the class first.
2. Then open the collection with 9 deck slots where the player will be able to build and save 9 decks for that specific class.
3. In play mode "Choose your deck" stick the 9 heroes on the slots and show an up/down arrow on each deck name to cycle through decks.

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 02:11 MarlieChurphy wrote:
We don't need more deck slots, we just need the ability to save decklists into some file format that's easily copy and pasteable. So we can swap decks around with ease.


You are just describing a way to have more deck slots. A pretty ugly way, imo.


it actually works really well for pokemon tbh. It just would never work for tablets / mobiles
ystao
Profile Joined February 2011
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 19:43:01
January 09 2015 19:42 GMT
#19
More deck slots please.

In the play menu, is it possible to also have a deck viewer window? I have 6 priest decks and it would be easier for me if I don't have to go back to my collections to see what's in each deck.

Save/load deck function is a good for PC users, but it's hard for the tablet users as you'll need to synced the files by yourself.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
January 09 2015 19:57 GMT
#20
They're too busy working on getting this out to different markets (e.g. tablets/phones) to care about a lot of your concerns. Because in the end, they're a business and mass profit is one of their primary concerns.
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