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Mistress of Pain + Auchenai Soulpriest Bug

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Alegzandur
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Philippines52 Posts
December 12 2014 06:44 GMT
#1
Title says it all, basically what happens is if you own both cards and attack with the Mistress of Pain, the player that owns both cards dies; more specifically, you take 1 damage an infinity number of times until you die. I can see why this happens, but I'm still pretty sure this is not how this card is supposed to work.

Didn't happen to me, but it happened to my brother and it should be easy enough to test. Was pretty hilarious actually. xD

P.S. I've already reported this on the Blizzard forums, just thought I'd share this with everyone here.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
December 12 2014 06:55 GMT
#2
Not a bug. Auchenai Soulpriest's text clearly states "Cards and effects that heal now do damage instead". That means attacking with Mistress of Pain will cause you pain.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 12 2014 07:05 GMT
#3
Did you even read the post? Apparently he enters into an infinite loop whereby he loses ALL of his HP.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 12 2014 07:21 GMT
#4
But it makes sense. Instead of healing she deals damage to you at the attack. Then because she damaged you, she tries to heal you. But it's damage again because of Soulpriest.
And all is illuminated.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 07:24:09
December 12 2014 07:23 GMT
#5
^Yeah, it always amazes me, how some people take the time to reply some undermining shit, but cant read the 5-10 lines of the OP they re trying to discredit.

Probably the bug occurs because Soulpriest considers the self-damage taken to be an attack of the player, thus triggering MoP again, which triggers her again etc... Obviously a bug.
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litlnoobs
Profile Joined January 2013
United States8 Posts
December 12 2014 07:26 GMT
#6
It's fine, priest already steal enough cards without a penalty. That one card they steal also causes a penalty is not a problem.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 09:27:17
December 12 2014 07:28 GMT
#7
On December 12 2014 16:23 Geo.Rion wrote:
^Yeah, it always amazes me, how some people take the time to reply some undermining shit, but cant read the 5-10 lines of the OP they re trying to discredit.

Probably the bug occurs because Soulpriest considers the self-damage taken to be an attack of the player, thus triggering MoP again, which triggers her again etc... Obviously a bug.

I read the whole post.
edit:
No fuck what I wrote before. Not a bug. The reason in order of occurance:
Mistress of Pain attacks the warlock dealing one damage
Mistress of Pain procs her effect to heal one damage. Auchenai Soulpriest's static effect turns the heal into one damage.
Mistress of Pain effect deals one damage to the priest.
Mistress of Pain procs her effect off her effect damaging the priest to heal one damage. Auchenai Soulpriest's static effect turns the heal into one damage.
Repeat until 0HP

edit 2: A youtube video of this exact situation:

In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Alegzandur
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Philippines52 Posts
December 12 2014 07:29 GMT
#8
I imagine this happens quite often as well because Cabal Shadow Priest and Auchenai Soulpriest are pretty much staples, so really you just need to find a warlock that plays Mistress of Pain (which admittedly is pretty underwhelming to bad). I really wish I saw this happen in my brother's game though, he told me afterwards that he was at 30 life and the lock was at 14; it must have been so disheartening to lose that game (in ranked).
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 07:35:14
December 12 2014 07:30 GMT
#9
On December 12 2014 16:05 kingjames01 wrote:
Did you even read the post? Apparently he enters into an infinite loop whereby he loses ALL of his HP.

Yeah, and it's not a bug. Damage caused by an effect is still damage caused by that minion, see Knife Juggler with stealth. Whether Blizzard plans to change it so that doesn't happen is another story, though I'm not sure how they would do it.
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TohoBuWaha
Profile Joined November 2013
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 07:37:53
December 12 2014 07:37 GMT
#10
Mistress deals 1 damage, which triggers her to heal you for 1.

Soulpriest turns that heal of 1 into 1 damage

Therefore Mistress "deals 1 damage" to you again, which triggers her to heal you for 1

Soulpriest turns that heal of 1 into 1 damage

Therefore Mistress....

Unless they rewrite Mistress it's exactly what's supposed to happen


EDIT: ops, when I wrote this there was just 2 answers...shouldnt have opened the window and come back later xD
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 07:52:29
December 12 2014 07:48 GMT
#11
It is not a bug, just an infinite combo between two cards. A bad combo in this case, but nothing unusual. Maybe another card in another expansion will allow Priests to do infinite damage to the opponent if they get the other combo piece. MtG is full of these combos, good and bad, arbitrary life, arbitrary damage, arbitrary turns, arbitrary tokens... The more cards you get, the more likely these types of effects get. MtG has 10.000+ cards so some of them work in strange, unintended ways together. Which to me makes a lot of the fun of MtG, discovering these types of interactions and abusing them.
Blizz might still fix it because if they don't want this type of effect in the game but it clearly works like it should given the card texts. I personally don't mind it and hope they won't change it. Playing with the dark side by mind controlling demons and shit might backfire, makes even sense flavor wise.
Sutty
Profile Joined January 2014
0 Posts
December 12 2014 07:57 GMT
#12
NOT A BUG!

This is meant to happen in this rare occurrence.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
December 12 2014 07:58 GMT
#13
On December 12 2014 16:23 Geo.Rion wrote:
^Yeah, it always amazes me, how some people take the time to reply some undermining shit, but cant read the 5-10 lines of the OP they re trying to discredit.

Probably the bug occurs because Soulpriest considers the self-damage taken to be an attack of the player, thus triggering MoP again, which triggers her again etc... Obviously a bug.


Except the OP (and you) are wrong. This isn't a bug and in fact was pointed out by the Dev team as the intended interaction when Mistress of Pain was revealed.

Alegzandur
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Philippines52 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 08:04:17
December 12 2014 07:59 GMT
#14
Like I said, I can see why this happens, but it just feels wrong for it to happen this way. While I have no love for Priest, you can look at the interaction with Jeeves when both player's decks are empty and they have less than 3 cards in hand, the effect just doesn't go off anymore. In short, Blizzard generally stamps out such infinite death combos because they just aren't fun, and I don't think people complain they didn't win the game because such combos don't go off.

Edit: Didn't know Yong Woo clarified the issue already, so I guess that closes this. Like I said, I can see why, but I was pretty sure it shouldn't happen that way. In no way, shape, or form was I saying I had the absolute gospel truth in my words.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2550 Posts
December 12 2014 07:59 GMT
#15
Considering that there are exceptions for other potential infinite loop scenarios (Jeeves comes to mind) it does seem odd that this actually infinite loops, so I can see why people are calling it a bug.
Sutty
Profile Joined January 2014
0 Posts
December 12 2014 08:07 GMT
#16
At the end of the day, something following the card text should not be reported as a bug in the first place.

You just have to google the "Mistress of Pain Auchenai Soulpriest" to see all the examples of past instances of this...
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
December 12 2014 08:34 GMT
#17
On December 12 2014 16:59 Fleetfeet wrote:
Considering that there are exceptions for other potential infinite loop scenarios (Jeeves comes to mind) it does seem odd that this actually infinite loops, so I can see why people are calling it a bug.


Jeeves is more a case of poor/ambiguous wording than an infinite loop imo. Probably it's because I'm a programmer by trade, but I understood that what it really meant by 'draw until' was 'draw as a single action (draw 0-3 cards based on hand size)', which is why it doesn't infinite loop.
Origence
Profile Joined June 2014
Spain0 Posts
December 12 2014 08:55 GMT
#18
I doubt they fix it, is a ctually one of these incredible stories that can happen in Hearthstone.
The combo is quite hard to pull off.
To start with is a huge misplay from part of the Priest, so he deserves to lose anyways.

The annoying part is that it limits priests to put both Auchenai and Piloted Shredder in same deck to avoid this combo to happen.
Thinking ahead
MarcoBrei
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil66 Posts
December 12 2014 15:20 GMT
#19
Not sure if it's good or bad for the game, but that's exactly what Blizzard expect to happen.

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S1eth
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria221 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 15:32:12
December 12 2014 15:31 GMT
#20
On December 12 2014 17:07 Sutty wrote:
At the end of the day, something following the card text should not be reported as a bug in the first place.

You just have to google the "Mistress of Pain Auchenai Soulpriest" to see all the examples of past instances of this...

I will never understand the minds of people who have to decide between "do a 5 second google search, or spend 10 minutes making a forum post AND a bug report and then wait for responses" and choose the latter option.

They're causing trouble for both themselves and others. Maybe they're just extremely extroverted and looking for attention or something.
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