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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
January 23 2014 12:53 GMT
#1721
Ancient Watcher is a really frustrating card. Sometimes it can be a gamewinner alone but the other times it's just a dead weight..though I suppose the same can be said for hundreds of others.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 23 2014 13:34 GMT
#1722
Fuck you, Giants Warlock.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Jeanjacket
Profile Joined January 2014
United States8 Posts
January 23 2014 14:00 GMT
#1723
On January 23 2014 12:47 TheCable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 12:21 Elite00fm wrote:
Anyone feel like arena is fucking bullshit? I think maybe warrior is horrible for arena because I never get any good card removal options. In my last deck my only spell options were like shield block and 2 whirlwinds. I had no weapons either, so my deck was basically just all shitty neutral minions. Not sure how it's possible to win when I play against decks with all kinds of ridiculous shit. I just went 1-3 in arena. Rogue with weapons and a ragnaros, a priest with a shit load of removal (holy novas, shadow word pain and death), and a warlock also with a shit load of good removal cards. I feel like once you lose board control you just can't ever get it back without spells or really strong cards (legendary cards). I had no options but to just play shitty cards that were traded against efficiently until I had no cards in my hand or on the board.


Yeah, some arena runs will suck no matter what you do. It's all about consistency over the long term. Even if you know that, I get the frustration, getting crushed multiple arenas in a row and going like 1-3, 2-3, 1-3 feels miserable. But that's part of it, have to deal with the downswings


What this guy said. Arena is all about variance. Even professionals will have shitty runs.

It's a lot like poker, in that there is a large amount of luck involved, but over the long run, if you're making the right decisions, you'll always come out ahead.

If you're picking good picks, and playing the right plays, then eventually it all works out. Just make sure you're learning and constantly reevaluating your plays and style before flaming the game or RNG. I used to only get 1-3 wins per arena, but after some reading and some reevaluating of priorities in arena when both playing and picking, I now average about 5-6 wins, even with shitty decks.
Arcranon
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7 Posts
January 23 2014 14:27 GMT
#1724
Lol, im on 2 hp, rogue is on 18, I can do 10 damage with my minions, and have 2 soulfires in my hand =18 damage total. I do my 10 damage, use one soulfire, and of course out of the 4 other cards in my hand, it picks the other soulfire to discard...

oh well.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
January 23 2014 14:28 GMT
#1725
On January 23 2014 23:00 Jeanjacket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 12:47 TheCable wrote:
On January 23 2014 12:21 Elite00fm wrote:
Anyone feel like arena is fucking bullshit? I think maybe warrior is horrible for arena because I never get any good card removal options. In my last deck my only spell options were like shield block and 2 whirlwinds. I had no weapons either, so my deck was basically just all shitty neutral minions. Not sure how it's possible to win when I play against decks with all kinds of ridiculous shit. I just went 1-3 in arena. Rogue with weapons and a ragnaros, a priest with a shit load of removal (holy novas, shadow word pain and death), and a warlock also with a shit load of good removal cards. I feel like once you lose board control you just can't ever get it back without spells or really strong cards (legendary cards). I had no options but to just play shitty cards that were traded against efficiently until I had no cards in my hand or on the board.


Yeah, some arena runs will suck no matter what you do. It's all about consistency over the long term. Even if you know that, I get the frustration, getting crushed multiple arenas in a row and going like 1-3, 2-3, 1-3 feels miserable. But that's part of it, have to deal with the downswings


What this guy said. Arena is all about variance. Even professionals will have shitty runs.

It's a lot like poker, in that there is a large amount of luck involved, but over the long run, if you're making the right decisions, you'll always come out ahead.

If you're picking good picks, and playing the right plays, then eventually it all works out. Just make sure you're learning and constantly reevaluating your plays and style before flaming the game or RNG. I used to only get 1-3 wins per arena, but after some reading and some reevaluating of priorities in arena when both playing and picking, I now average about 5-6 wins, even with shitty decks.

I have only gotten beta access like 5 days agon and played maybe 5 arenas but still I think people averaging 7+ wins is bullshit. I played a lot of MTG in my early teens and playing correctly/perfect in hearthstone is a LOT easier than in magic, so it all comes down to variance as you said. There is huge variance in your draft and then there is variance in each game with your draw luck. Even if you play and draft perfectly I really dont see anybody _averaging_ 7+ wins.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 14:32:40
January 23 2014 14:31 GMT
#1726
Oh and yeah, it really pisses me off that you have to play constructed. Arena is whats fun about this game while constructed is 100% pay (and/or grind) to win. Would be nice if there would be an option to get 100 gold instead of the pack from an arena run so you can easily go infinite arena but dont get cards for constructed, which i dont wanna play anyways.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
January 23 2014 15:48 GMT
#1727
On January 23 2014 23:27 Arcranon wrote:
Lol, im on 2 hp, rogue is on 18, I can do 10 damage with my minions, and have 2 soulfires in my hand =18 damage total. I do my 10 damage, use one soulfire, and of course out of the 4 other cards in my hand, it picks the other soulfire to discard...

oh well.


RNG is a pretty decisive factor sometimes...
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
January 23 2014 15:59 GMT
#1728
On January 23 2014 23:28 diehilde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 23:00 Jeanjacket wrote:
On January 23 2014 12:47 TheCable wrote:
On January 23 2014 12:21 Elite00fm wrote:
Anyone feel like arena is fucking bullshit? I think maybe warrior is horrible for arena because I never get any good card removal options. In my last deck my only spell options were like shield block and 2 whirlwinds. I had no weapons either, so my deck was basically just all shitty neutral minions. Not sure how it's possible to win when I play against decks with all kinds of ridiculous shit. I just went 1-3 in arena. Rogue with weapons and a ragnaros, a priest with a shit load of removal (holy novas, shadow word pain and death), and a warlock also with a shit load of good removal cards. I feel like once you lose board control you just can't ever get it back without spells or really strong cards (legendary cards). I had no options but to just play shitty cards that were traded against efficiently until I had no cards in my hand or on the board.


Yeah, some arena runs will suck no matter what you do. It's all about consistency over the long term. Even if you know that, I get the frustration, getting crushed multiple arenas in a row and going like 1-3, 2-3, 1-3 feels miserable. But that's part of it, have to deal with the downswings


What this guy said. Arena is all about variance. Even professionals will have shitty runs.

It's a lot like poker, in that there is a large amount of luck involved, but over the long run, if you're making the right decisions, you'll always come out ahead.

If you're picking good picks, and playing the right plays, then eventually it all works out. Just make sure you're learning and constantly reevaluating your plays and style before flaming the game or RNG. I used to only get 1-3 wins per arena, but after some reading and some reevaluating of priorities in arena when both playing and picking, I now average about 5-6 wins, even with shitty decks.

I have only gotten beta access like 5 days agon and played maybe 5 arenas but still I think people averaging 7+ wins is bullshit. I played a lot of MTG in my early teens and playing correctly/perfect in hearthstone is a LOT easier than in magic, so it all comes down to variance as you said. There is huge variance in your draft and then there is variance in each game with your draw luck. Even if you play and draft perfectly I really dont see anybody _averaging_ 7+ wins.
Well you're wrong and people do. It isn't a huge percentage, and there are other people going 0-3 and 1-3 because of it, but it happens. Watch a stream. A 70% arena win % is averaging 7 wins.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 23 2014 17:29 GMT
#1729
On January 21 2014 20:48 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 20:32 papalion wrote:
I dropped 5 ranks in two days, no idea how to stop it.

Also, gold cards my ass.


What are you losing to mostly?

Seems every 3rd game in ranked is a hunter, for me at least. Every game, starving buzzard comes out followed by UTH. Clears your minions (or goes for face) with the hounds and then has mega card advantage :/


That's why you play a class with a hero power that doesn't suck and kill the buzzard every time.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
January 23 2014 19:07 GMT
#1730
On January 24 2014 02:29 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 20:48 Nekovivie wrote:
On January 21 2014 20:32 papalion wrote:
I dropped 5 ranks in two days, no idea how to stop it.

Also, gold cards my ass.


What are you losing to mostly?

Seems every 3rd game in ranked is a hunter, for me at least. Every game, starving buzzard comes out followed by UTH. Clears your minions (or goes for face) with the hounds and then has mega card advantage :/


That's why you play a class with a hero power that doesn't suck and kill the buzzard every time.

You must be playing utter retards if they dont play their buzzard and uth on the same turn, even more so against a hero with ping...
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
January 23 2014 19:42 GMT
#1731
Mana wyrm is such a fucking stupid card. Coin as a spell has to goooooooooo.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
January 23 2014 20:44 GMT
#1732
Just lost in arena against a hunter with 4 UTH...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
TheCable
Profile Joined January 2014
Lithuania0 Posts
January 23 2014 21:17 GMT
#1733
Mechanics in HS make no cocksucking motherfucking sense whatsoever. I assumed you could silence "double health of a minion" (priest spell) and remove the health. Nope. It stays. There's no indication what's the full health of the creature either. It's completely fucking random and Blizzard just don't seem to give a shit about proper rules system.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 21:51:00
January 23 2014 21:47 GMT
#1734
On January 24 2014 06:17 TheCable wrote:
Mechanics in HS make no cocksucking motherfucking sense whatsoever. I assumed you could silence "double health of a minion" (priest spell) and remove the health. Nope. It stays. There's no indication what's the full health of the creature either. It's completely fucking random and Blizzard just don't seem to give a shit about proper rules system.



Eh? Silencing does remove divine spirit. However the way buffs work, its hard to see sometimes.

Lets say the priest played a 6 hp Fen Creeper You attack into it with a 3 damage minion, so now the Fen Creeper is at 3 hp (remember that the max health is still 6).

Next turn the priest plays Divine Spirit. Now the Fen Creeper is at 6 hp (with a max health of 12). So its actually a 12hp minion with current hp of 6.

Following turn you play Spellbreaker and silence the minion. But the Fen Creeper still remains at 6hp. This is because silencing just removes the divine spirit magic effect and returns the fen creeper's max health to 6. It doesnt affect the current hp of the creeper.

I hope that makes sense to you. This is also true for temporary health effects provided by aura units like Stormwind Champion.
Envy fan since NTH.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 23 2014 22:07 GMT
#1735
On January 24 2014 04:07 diehilde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 02:29 deth2munkies wrote:
On January 21 2014 20:48 Nekovivie wrote:
On January 21 2014 20:32 papalion wrote:
I dropped 5 ranks in two days, no idea how to stop it.

Also, gold cards my ass.


What are you losing to mostly?

Seems every 3rd game in ranked is a hunter, for me at least. Every game, starving buzzard comes out followed by UTH. Clears your minions (or goes for face) with the hounds and then has mega card advantage :/


That's why you play a class with a hero power that doesn't suck and kill the buzzard every time.

You must be playing utter retards if they dont play their buzzard and uth on the same turn, even more so against a hero with ping...


Then it's at least a turn 4 play, pretty much every deck beats the hunter in board control before that, UTH doesn't change that, it's just an AI with minimal upside most of the time.

I run druid midrange, never had a problem with Hunter rush. It's a deck like murlocs where it can get a nut draw and punish any stumbles by your deck, but it's still at least 65/35 if you play well and have a deck that isn't horrible.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 22:33:18
January 23 2014 22:32 GMT
#1736
seriously? -_- he got my deathwing, i only have 2 cards that is higher than 4 drops, siphon and deathwing. I shouldnt bother with contructed.
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is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ashara
Profile Joined July 2008
France22 Posts
January 23 2014 22:48 GMT
#1737
93 packs opened and 2 legendaries found so far.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 00:58:59
January 24 2014 00:22 GMT
#1738
On January 24 2014 07:32 BurningSera wrote:
seriously? -_- he got my deathwing, i only have 2 cards that is higher than 4 drops, siphon and deathwing. I shouldnt bother with contructed.
dajdslfjlfj;ofs;fsk;f

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Yeah I faced 2 x tirion and 1 x sylvanas (1 x mindgames , 2x thoughtsteal) when playing my control pally vs my friend (who had no legendaries in his deck lol). I clear all those, and finally he mind controls my tirion.

Thankfully I was just playing a friend. God knows how hard I would have raged if it had happened in arena or ranked.
Envy fan since NTH.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
January 24 2014 01:35 GMT
#1739
Just lost the best arena deck I've ever played to a fucking deathwing. Giant and merc out and he plays deathwing QQ. Didnt draw my bgh or removals tt.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
January 24 2014 05:05 GMT
#1740
Accidentally quit an arena game trying to hit the options button. sad face.
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