After getting fed up with mages in ranked I decided to go for an arena run.
Ended 4-3 with 7 mages in a row...

I hate when people exagerate how good or bad things are on the internet (where people seem to only speak in hyperboles) but the game really is close to unplayable with the current meta/patch. Imma go find something else to do and wait this shit out. Not losing anymore of my sanity playing this.

eXdeath

France66 Posts

December 13 2013 00:45 GMT

#762

The annoying thing about mages is that there are so many ways for them to abuse the damage burn. Alexstrasza, Pyroblasts, Secrets, Giants, etc. When you find out what is their plan it's often too late because you realize they will kill you in the coming turns and you expected something different.
Also I feel like the "freeze" mechanic (especially when AoE) is just as annoying (if not more) than mind control.

virtu333

United States56 Posts

December 13 2013 03:22 GMT

#763

On December 13 2013 06:44 Nyrr wrote:
I really don't like going first. I always feel like the coin adds so much extra versatility to your hand in the early game (not to mention all the Rogue combo fun and things you can do with spells) and the extra card is just so useful to make up for possible bad draws in your opening hand.

But going second feels soooooo good. So that's a plus.

Going first is huge in the midgame though; it gives you a certain level of initiative and it is especially important for mid game AOE's during board battles.

Apparently before the coin, going first had a win rate of like 70%+

insectoceanx

United States331 Posts

December 13 2013 04:59 GMT

#764

Wow thought my 2nd arena deck was doing better than my first, 3 wins with just 1 loss, then i get my ass handed to me by a priest and a druid. I went second against the druid and other than my stealthed minion never was able to keep anything on the board despite playing many more cards than him

Mannerheim

766 Posts

December 13 2013 07:44 GMT

#765

Mages...

Is there literally zero people working on Hearthstone balance at Blizzard? I can't think of any other explanation for the current state of the game.

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

December 13 2013 08:02 GMT

#766

I haven't seen that many mages. Did run into a guy who bought his deck though with nat pagle, alexstrasa, ysera, rock and roll tauren, etc...

That was annoying.

This game is too addicting. Need to eat and study.

If you run into a lot of mages, can't you try to get cards that do well against mages. Flamestrike's breakpoint is 4 damage so 5 life minions are good. pyroblast does 6. So you just need 7 life minions. Yes, maybe they'l' play an azure dragon and get out a +1 damage or they'll use pyroblast, but every 2 mana counts.
Secretkeeper is good for when your opponent has a lot of secrets.

I mean, if you're seeing 8 mages in a row, it's time to run counterdecks. Get something that gives you some bonus life late game like keeper of the grove so they can't finish you off when you gain board control. They're limited to a set number of pyroblasts.

Write down the mage secrets on flash cards and study the damage of their cards and their openings to find counters.

Research spells. Eg I found out that freezes can be removed with silence. Priests have an AoE silence.

Erandorr

2283 Posts

December 13 2013 08:24 GMT

#767

This is for QQ right?

OK HERES SOME QQ. 6-0 Warrior feeling good. Run into a Paladin who was able to use THREE truesilvers in a row, so every 2 turns. Pretty QQ. Next game super close a guy topdecks a panda returns his argos cant finish him. I was a bit lucky that game too but still sad as fuck. And finally I go call my mom because she texted me and forget I Q'd. QQ.

Mannerheim

766 Posts

December 13 2013 08:26 GMT

#768

On December 13 2013 17:02 obesechicken13 wrote:
Research spells. Eg I found out that freezes can be removed with silence. Priests have an AoE silence.

Silences are currently too scarce and slapped in inefficient cards. Also priest AoE silence only hits enemy minions so it can't remove freeze from yours.

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

December 13 2013 08:45 GMT

#769

On December 13 2013 17:26 Mannerheim wrote:

Show nested quote +

Silences are currently too scarce and slapped in inefficient cards. Also priest AoE silence only hits enemy minions so it can't remove freeze from yours.

Oh.

Steelavocado

United States2123 Posts

December 13 2013 08:48 GMT

#770

From my post in another thread

My buddy from college works at jimmy johns and I traded a hearthstone beta key for a sub. He plays his free arena and goes 1-3. Opens his pack---- gold Onyxia..... I haven't even got a legendary yet.

What makes it worse is he can still play arena but mine is bugged still :/

Anyone know an ETA on when they will fix the arena bug?

HoriZoNXI

Australia310 Posts

December 13 2013 09:09 GMT

#771

On December 13 2013 17:48 Steelavocado wrote:
From my post in another thread

Show nested quote +

Anyone know an ETA on when they will fix the arena bug?

There was a blue post on the official forums stating the bug won't get fixed this week, so next week unfortunately :/

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

December 13 2013 10:36 GMT

#772

Fuck mages. Need a nerf so fucking badly.

Seriously though, fucking molten giant ragnaros iceblock double blizzard stall. Such fucking bullshit, especially in an arena deck.

Also I have no fucking bomber luck. Every single time I've played the stupid thing it shoots me at least twice. Might as well be playing flame imps.

WTF TOP DECK FUCKING FROST ELEMENTAL INTO CONE OF COLD TO LIVE BY ONE HEALTH. FUCK MAGES.

6-0 into face 3 mages and lose to bullshit from all fucking three.

Rassy

Netherlands2308 Posts

December 13 2013 14:56 GMT

#773

After a few verry nice episodes of value town, the last episode was rather disapointing.
Specially the analyses of a few ingame positions was horrible. There was no analysis at all and people just yelled their opinnion without even thinking,not to mention that their opinion sometimes was plain wrong. They where not interested in the position showed at all,but only interested in beeing heard.
To then hear someone sugest the right move and the host and guests dismissing that right move without thinking or analysing as a "nah thats just bad" "no that is the worst" is kinda hilarious and makes them all look a bit dumb.

Crownlol

United States3726 Posts

December 13 2013 15:29 GMT

#774

FUCK mages.

Seriously

Crownlol

United States3726 Posts

December 13 2013 15:32 GMT

#775

On December 13 2013 19:36 Amui wrote:
Fuck mages. Need a nerf so fucking badly.

Seriously though, fucking molten giant ragnaros iceblock double blizzard stall. Such fucking bullshit, especially in an arena deck.

Also I have no fucking bomber luck. Every single time I've played the stupid thing it shoots me at least twice. Might as well be playing flame imps.

WTF TOP DECK FUCKING FROST ELEMENTAL INTO CONE OF COLD TO LIVE BY ONE HEALTH. FUCK MAGES.

6-0 into face 3 mages and lose to bullshit from all fucking three.

I heard mages were hard to play.

How is arcane missiles ONE MANA? And which of you assholes just played a 4 AM deck? (Arena ofc)

ugapa

United States153 Posts

December 13 2013 15:35 GMT

#776

10-3 in arena, get a normal dust devil (i checked my collection, yes)

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

December 13 2013 15:44 GMT

#777

Bugged placement

wtf

Crownlol

United States3726 Posts

December 13 2013 19:47 GMT

#778

On December 13 2013 09:45 eXdeath wrote:
The annoying thing about mages is that there are so many ways for them to abuse the damage burn. Alexstrasza, Pyroblasts, Secrets, Giants, etc. When you find out what is their plan it's often too late because you realize they will kill you in the coming turns and you expected something different.
Also I feel like the "freeze" mechanic (especially when AoE) is just as annoying (if not more) than mind control.

Freeze is so much worse.