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On August 16 2009 21:59 Sadistx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2009 21:29 qrs wrote:Good post, but On August 16 2009 17:23 GrayArea wrote: Drinking kills brain cells source plz? (for that blanket statement, not for some fringe case, like two cases of vodka a day or something) Drinking less will just kill less cells, probably not a significant amount, but it will still be harmful. Again: source?
In fact, if you had done even the slightest bit of research you would have found plenty of evidence to the contrary.
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On August 16 2009 17:45 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2009 17:37 Pawsom wrote:On August 16 2009 17:23 GrayArea wrote:
6) Don't do drugs and don't drink (This one is gonna get criticism, lol). I've never done drugs nor drank, but I'm going to give you advice about them? Really? Ugh, I don't need to hit a my head against the wall to know it will hurt.
haha But you do have to have hit some part of your body on something to actually understand what hurt means.
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Develop a genuine interest and intense thirst for knowledge in the subject you're studying. You'll soak it all up like a sponge or you'll already know everything already =)
Unfortunately if you're like me and this is the only way you can 'study'... you don't end up doing too well in many classes...
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Getting "A" GPA is so boring, A on iccup though is the way to go!
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This guide is fairly accurate, however I think an additional section at the college level should be select a balanced course load. What I mean by this is a) when given the chance take easy courses. I don't know how many "smart" students I have seen use a free-elective to take some super hard course because they think that they should (its OK to take a hard course as long as your interested and want to take it). b)Try not to overload on type of course at a time (don't take four lab/math/history/etc. classes at once try to spread them out over the four years). I find studying similar subject can burn you out while studying much faster than writing an English paper for an hour and then working on some math.
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Working towards anything more than a C will always get you diminishing returns for the amount of time and effort you spend doing it. The only way you're going to make straight As is if you spend exponentially more time than is necessary on what is usually trivial and inapplicable information.
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Elaboration on point 6: I don't think it's so much that drinking and smoking kills brain cells (like qrs said, there is significant evidence to the contrary), but moreover that these things are distractions, and that they can potentially detract from the time you put into studying. With such a goal as attaining a 4.0 (or even relatively good grades) there's really no time to spend under the influence.
But then again, it's all up to the individual, and how well he/she manages time. (Stating the very obvious) it's always different from person to person, and I've met many of those who can pull of very good grades, and still afford time to party/smoke/get messed up. Personally however, I do notice that my grades take a slight downgrade whenever I decide to spend periods of my life "unwinding" (If you will)
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Anyone can get straight A's, it's not brilliance or luck, it's just work. Anyone can study hard enough to get an A in high school and the more you study, the easier it gets. Thats the trick, simple dilligence
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1. Pay attention in class. If you aren't an idiot it should be easy enough to pick up concepts the first time they are said, as long as you are listening (for more basic classes)
2. Do your homework. It helps you learn the material and contributes usually to a large % of your grade in HS. I've done all of my homework and gone straight C's on the tests in a class and still pull a B+ to an A.
3. Cram. If you're going to need to know the material later on, you'll learn it naturally by use, not by memorizing it, so often times I just cram the night before and can still pull an A to B+. People will tell you this is a bad strategy, but i'll keep using it till my experience proves otherwise.
4. Drinking/drugs don't really matter if it's a social activity on the weekends and stuff. I know a lot of people who drink on weekends at parties and still have a 4.0+. It's just all about time management. There is no actual like killing of brain cells though, lol @ that.
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Pick the easy professors and A's will come.
Whether you learn something or not, well, you didn't specify.
Anyone can get straight A's, it's not brilliance or luck, it's just work. Truth. Except the part where you said to study hard in high school. Always amazed when people do shit in high school; this is the place you learn to cut corners, do the minimal amount of work and squeeze the most out of it
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On August 16 2009 23:39 Sinensis wrote: Working towards anything more than a C will always get you diminishing returns for the amount of time and effort you spend doing it. The only way you're going to make straight As is if you spend exponentially more time than is necessary on what is usually trivial and inapplicable information. Have you used this explanation of studying efficiency to get a job or get into grad school? I'm sure they'll definitely start favoring 2.0s over 4.0s if you do!
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just listen in class. straight A's requires hard work and a bit of luck (some teachers dont give A's)
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On August 16 2009 22:20 qrs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2009 21:59 Sadistx wrote:On August 16 2009 21:29 qrs wrote:Good post, but On August 16 2009 17:23 GrayArea wrote: Drinking kills brain cells source plz? (for that blanket statement, not for some fringe case, like two cases of vodka a day or something) Drinking less will just kill less cells, probably not a significant amount, but it will still be harmful. Again: source? In fact, if you had done even the slightest bit of research you would have found plenty of evidence to the contrary. His explanation was bad, but you know he basically means don't get drunk or high if you want to perform best. The testing was only done on low-mid alcohol consumption on older people so it's not applicable to most college age drinking and certainly the effects of being drunk offset any extra sharpness from the alcohol.
But I do think it's possible to work in some "recreational activity" without it being any more of a detriment than playing casual SC. I think the bigger issue is when you're doing it (aka Friday/Saturday) and how much time you're letting it take up. Not just the time drinking, but if you wake up at 2pm the next day and still have a headache for a few hours, you basically just killed an extra day.
EDIT: Also, I'm curious what the grades are like for most of the people posting here and just saying "it's luck" or "it's just diligence." Diligence is important, but you reach a level where good habits don't help much more if you simply can't figure things out. Most of the time when people say "it's just working hard/spending a lot of time," it's a cop out for why they got a shitty grade since they like to believe they could have gotten an A if they'd just tried harder.
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Drugs and drinking and stopping studying improved my gpa from like a 3.1 to 3.5-3.6 .
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On August 16 2009 23:39 Sinensis wrote: Working towards anything more than a C will always get you diminishing returns for the amount of time and effort you spend doing it. The only way you're going to make straight As is if you spend exponentially more time than is necessary on what is usually trivial and inapplicable information.
The difference between a C and an A has never been trivial or inapplicable information in my classes. In fact in most of my classes, no part of the grade is on trivial or inapplicable information. But an A is characterized by an understanding of the finer points of the subject while a C is only capable of the basic ideas.
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1, 2, and 3 are not required. I got through high school and college taking minimal notes and studying rarely. Then again a lot of my course work would be writing papers hence numbers 4 and 5 being more like my numbers 1, and 2.
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On August 17 2009 00:07 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2009 22:20 qrs wrote:On August 16 2009 21:59 Sadistx wrote:On August 16 2009 21:29 qrs wrote:Good post, but On August 16 2009 17:23 GrayArea wrote: Drinking kills brain cells source plz? (for that blanket statement, not for some fringe case, like two cases of vodka a day or something) Drinking less will just kill less cells, probably not a significant amount, but it will still be harmful. Again: source? In fact, if you had done even the slightest bit of research you would have found plenty of evidence to the contrary. His explanation was bad, but you know he basically means don't get drunk or high if you want to perform best. Sure, I didn't question that part.
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On August 17 2009 00:07 Jibba wrote: Diligence is important, but you reach a level where good habits don't help much more if you simply can't figure things out. Most of the time when people say "it's just working hard/spending a lot of time," it's a cop out for why they got a shitty grade since they like to believe they could have gotten an A if they'd just tried harder.
Is this level a higher degree? Because for undergrads and definitely high school courses(suggest cutting corners here instead), diligence makes up a large percentage or that A. 90% haha~ You really can just brute force your way to an A if you put in enough time. That's not bullshit.
I don't disagree with you that people use "time spent studying" as a cop out. Most people rationalize their grades, it's why one of the 1st things people do when they get back a test or paper is to ask what other people got.
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On August 17 2009 00:10 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2009 23:39 Sinensis wrote: Working towards anything more than a C will always get you diminishing returns for the amount of time and effort you spend doing it. The only way you're going to make straight As is if you spend exponentially more time than is necessary on what is usually trivial and inapplicable information. The difference between a C and an A has never been trivial or inapplicable information in my classes. In fact in most of my classes, no part of the grade is on trivial or inapplicable information. But an A is characterized by an understanding of the finer points of the subject while a C is only capable of the basic ideas.
Aptly put, thanks for the sparing the rest of us the effort.
And on cramming: I also cram, but I don't think it's a good method. Frequent review is much better. IMO you can easily pull B+ / A just by cramming, but it's just not time-efficient. Much easier to go over something 15 min/day for two weeks than sitting 10 hrs in one night.
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On August 16 2009 17:27 illu wrote: Getting straight A depends more on luck than anything else.
Umm, wat? Smart people must be pretty lucky...
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