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ZorAptoR
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Switzerland926 Posts
June 26 2009 12:44 GMT
#401
never liked him nor his music, interesting medical case though...
in SOMA we TRUST
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-26 13:11:15
June 26 2009 13:00 GMT
#402
There is an old Korean saying, a men only cries 4 times throughout his lifetime.

When you're born, when your parents die, when your country perishes and when Michael Jackson passes away.

I think people misunderstand the word 'allegation'. I can make allegation against anyone, I can sue anyone and I can take anyone to court. Does that make you a criminal? you're only guilty if you're proven guilty. He was never found guilty so why is he a pedophile? It's all just a speculation. There was no plausible evidence that suggest that he sexually molested any of them.

I can understand that it's really tempting if there was a chance to become millionaire overnight, isn't it? especially given such cases are extremely difficult to disprove unless recorded on tape. The outside of court settlement has endowed the plaintiff family with millions overnight.

The 2nd women who accused Jackson of sexual abuse on her child had record of pulling tax fraud scheme against government. Most of the things she claimed was non-credible so MJ was found not guilty.

Rest in peace King of Pop!
1tym is one time for your mind
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 26 2009 13:02 GMT
#403
Wow, there's such a quote like that?
I didn't know Koreans liked Michael Jackson that much! :o
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
June 26 2009 13:14 GMT
#404
On June 26 2009 21:33 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2009 21:04 Shizuru~ wrote:
I see his death also as the death of modern music cultures, regardless if he was a pedo or not, the fact still remains he is one of the greatest performers, dancer, musicians that has ever lived...

look at the musics today, people listening to stuff like "lick lick lick me like a lollipop pop pop pop"

ugh...

RIP MJ...


yep. todays chart music is just a joke.
Lady Gaga - Pokerface. the refrain is just 1 hookline (cant read my cant read my - no he cant read my pokerface) repeated like 4 times without alteration. it is ridicolous how bad this song is and it still got #1. same for all this casting shows and their outcome

and then you have michael jackson who can put so much anger and hate in his voice (they dont care about us).


Why haven't you mentioned Boom Boom Pow? That songs sucks so much ass. OMG, I want to rip orphans apart when I hear that crap.
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
JohnnyCash
Profile Joined February 2006
France244 Posts
June 26 2009 13:26 GMT
#405
On June 26 2009 22:00 1tym wrote:
There is an old Korean saying, a men only cries 4 times throughout his lifetime.

When you're born, when your parents die, when your country perishes and when Michael Jackson passes away.


How "old" is this quote?
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
June 26 2009 13:31 GMT
#406
On June 26 2009 22:26 JohnnyCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2009 22:00 1tym wrote:
There is an old Korean saying, a men only cries 4 times throughout his lifetime.

When you're born, when your parents die, when your country perishes and when Michael Jackson passes away.


How "old" is this quote?


I never have heard of it either. I think it's the first three that was an adage while the last part was added for popular reference.
Stuck.
aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore846 Posts
June 26 2009 13:32 GMT
#407
my wife (whos korean) says the quote is just korean men cry 3 times. he obv added the mj part lol

a sad day indeed i rmb going to my first ever concert by mj when i was 8 years old
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Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
June 26 2009 13:34 GMT
#408
Lol Sarah Fawcett died and micheal went and took her spotlight.

Poor guy though. I wonder what ugly details the media will dig up now.
ya had ya shot kid!
Prof. Protoss
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-26 14:03:16
June 26 2009 13:37 GMT
#409
RIP Michael!

So many memories rushed through my head when I heard of his death. I remember danicing to his music as a child. Then as a teenager and then as a twen. I'm feeling really sad
Don't mess the fess!
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
June 26 2009 13:42 GMT
#410
RIP !
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
lux[chavii]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Germany115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-26 13:46:24
June 26 2009 13:44 GMT
#411


so awesome
RIP MJ, gave me several heebie-jeebies while I started listening to dangerous/bad/thriller today
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
June 26 2009 14:05 GMT
#412
On June 26 2009 22:00 1tym wrote:
There is an old Korean saying, a men only cries 4 times throughout his lifetime.

When you're born, when your parents die, when your country perishes and when Michael Jackson passes away.



that quote is bogus! Many men will cry if sc2 flops.
hi
DarkYoDA
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States1347 Posts
June 26 2009 14:56 GMT
#413
I love MJ because of the things he left behind that was good. He chosed to live his life in a certain way and in the process hurt some but there's nothing much we can do about that. But if you go back and look at some of his MTVs such as black or white and they don't care about us and the earth song etc, he left some good things behind and I even MTVs with no particular message was great with his dance moves. He's been wonderful. Rest In Peace. I guess it's part and parcel of life to have wonderful people we know leave until our own day comes but meanwile, I relish their positive memories...
It's a comedy to claim thy superiority when it's anothers' inferiority which elevated thy mediocrity
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8836 Posts
June 26 2009 15:00 GMT
#414
On June 26 2009 22:00 1tym wrote:
There is an old Korean saying, a men only cries 4 times throughout his lifetime.

When you're born, when your parents die, when your country perishes and when Michael Jackson passes away.



loool


The boy who never grew up: Michael Jackson, 1958-2009

/ / / June 25, 2009

by Roger Ebert

Michael Jackson was so gifted, so lonely, so confused, so sad. He lost happiness somewhere in his childhood, and spent his life trying to go back there and find it. When he played the Scarecrow in "The Wiz" (1978), I think that is how he felt, and Oz was where he wanted to live. It was his most truly autobiographical role. He could understand a character who felt stuffed with straw, but could wonderfully sing and dance, and could cheer up the little girl Dorothy.

We have all spent years in the morbid psychoanalysis of this strange man-child. Now that he has died we will hear it all repeated again: The great fame from an early age, the gold records, the world tours, the needy friendships, the painful childhood, Neverland, the eccentric behavior, plastic surgery, charges of child molestation, the fortunes won and lost, the generosity, the secrecy, the inexplicable marriage to Elvis's daughter, the disguises, the puzzling sexuality, the jokes, and on and on.

I never met him. My wife Chaz did, a long time ago when she was part of a dance troupe that opened some shows for the Jackson Five. What she remembers is that he was -- a kid. Talented, hard-working, but not like other kids. That's what he was, and that's what he remained. His father Joseph was known even then as a hard-driving taskmaster, and was later described by family members as physically and mentally abusive, beating the child, once holding him by a leg and banging his head on the floor. Michael confided to Oprah that sometimes he would vomit at the sight of the man.

Families are important to everyone, and to African-Americans they are the center of the universe. A census is maintained that radiates out to great-nieces and nephews, distant cousins, former spouses, honorary relatives, all the generations. Communication is maintained, birthdays remembered, occasions celebrated. Important above all are parents and grandparents. Family was a support system from a time when slave-owning America refused to recognize black families. Family was the rock.

Michael Jackson doesn't seem to have had that rock. His father seems to have driven him to create an alternate universe for himself, in which somewhere, over the rainbow, he could have another childhood. He named his ranch Neverland, after the magical land where Peter Pan, the boy who never grew up, enacted his fantasies with the Lost Boys. I wonder if we ever really understood how central that vision was to Jackson, or how literally he tried to create it.

I have no idea whether Michael abused the children he "adopted." It is possible those relationships were without sex; he seemed frozen at a time before puberty. Whether he touched them criminally or not, it is easy to see what he sought: To create, with and for these Lost Boys, a Neverland where they could imagine together the childhood he never had.

Mixed with that was perhaps a lifelong feeling of inadequacy, burned in by the cruelty of his father. That might help explain the compulsive plastic surgery, the relentless rehearsal, the exhausting tours, the purchase of expensive toys, the giving of gifts.

The scene everyone remembers from "The Wiz" is Dorothy and the Scarecrow, the Tin Man and the Cowardly Lion dancing and singing down the Yellow Brick Road. They were off to see the Wizard, and a wonderful Wizard he was, because of the wonderful things he does.

In the story, the Wizard is a lonely little man hiding behind a curtain, using his power to create a wonderland. Now Michael Jackson will never be able to tell us what he was hiding behind his curtain. But because of his music, we danced and sang.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
stk01001
Profile Joined September 2007
United States786 Posts
June 26 2009 15:07 GMT
#415
On June 26 2009 08:20 Manifesto7 wrote:
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On June 26 2009 08:18 FieryBalrog wrote:
hate the person, love the music.

I don't think making excellent pop music means you get a free pass on pedophilia, sorry.


I believe that would be zero convictions on pedophilia.


thank you for pointing this out...

people just belive things so easily without actually thinking about them... I honestly think MJ had no ill intentions toward any of the children that he took in, he was just a misguided guy who wanted to be a kid himself. it's kind of sad all the constant jokes and badgering by the media/public probably somewhat drove him to the state that he was in.. I feel really bad for the guy.
a.k.a reLapSe ---
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
June 26 2009 15:32 GMT
#416
very sad, i dont think that Michael Jacksson was an pedophile. Because he loved "children" in a weird and different way. I dont defend him by sleeping in same beds etc with them, but i dont think that a guy with that good heart could do that to a child.

MJ was very big in the pop culture and will always be, his music will never die and every cant say that he filled our youth with good music and dances. Many of my friends wanted to dance like MJ and started practicing.

Just dont go on the subject "pedophile" when he have passed away. Just say "R.I.P" or nothing at all, cause its just confusing people and making a big thing out of nothing.

btw R.I.P MJ! 1958 - 2009!

one friend made this comment "he can "beat it" lol, pretty funny but well....
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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
June 26 2009 15:33 GMT
#417
overall he was just a bit weird but he was a bad ass dancer so it's forgiven,
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-26 15:44:58
June 26 2009 15:44 GMT
#418
On June 26 2009 22:14 ilistis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2009 21:33 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On June 26 2009 21:04 Shizuru~ wrote:
I see his death also as the death of modern music cultures, regardless if he was a pedo or not, the fact still remains he is one of the greatest performers, dancer, musicians that has ever lived...

look at the musics today, people listening to stuff like "lick lick lick me like a lollipop pop pop pop"

ugh...

RIP MJ...


yep. todays chart music is just a joke.
Lady Gaga - Pokerface. the refrain is just 1 hookline (cant read my cant read my - no he cant read my pokerface) repeated like 4 times without alteration. it is ridicolous how bad this song is and it still got #1. same for all this casting shows and their outcome

and then you have michael jackson who can put so much anger and hate in his voice (they dont care about us).


Why haven't you mentioned Boom Boom Pow? That songs sucks so much ass. OMG, I want to rip orphans apart when I hear that crap.


Hey man, don't be jocking my style... I'm so 3008, you so 2000 and late... What a terrible, terrible, HILARIOUS song.

PS. RIP MJ. One of the greatest musicians ever.
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 26 2009 15:54 GMT
#419
i'm actually pretty upset about this

not as intense as the profound despair i felt when dimebag was killed, but this is really affecting me
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
drinking
Profile Joined December 2008
Philippines281 Posts
June 26 2009 15:57 GMT
#420
RIP, Michael Jackson.
You will be remembered.
Try not. Do or do not.
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