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On June 04 2009 07:25 Gokey wrote:
There are countless lives that have been improved with antidepressants, but of course, the naysayers are always the loudest.
Yeah, and countless normal people who are under stress and have been prescribed anti-depressants, become fucked up, are turned into patients, and start a "career" in psychiatry for no other reason than being on a drug and labeled "mentally ill".
Let me ask you if you have any experience of anti-depressants whatsoever?
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On June 04 2009 08:03 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 08:01 chaoser wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. sometimes they can't deal. sometimes it's chemical imbalance. read about the damn subject before making comments. I'm deciding not to engage in this stupid topic. Let people keep feeding pharmaceutical companies billions of dollars rather than just watching someone do stand-up. The idea that human life is so spectacular that it has to be lived to the nth degree is just something I don't agree with. There will be people who make history and people who die with nothing to their name. Its just nature in the end.
Yeah, and don't forget those stupid fuckers who keep the corrupt hospitals in business with their 'broken limbs' and their 'infections.' Stupid sheeple just need to have a stronger will, man.
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On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL.
You sir are a fucking retard. If you dont know what you are talking about then shut the fuck up and dont enter these threads.
I was depressed when I was younger and it had absolutely nothing to do with other people having a better life than me. I was depressed because of how shitty this world. There are so many fucked up things going on out there and nothing I can do about it. In order to not be depressed I had to develop a "who gives a fuck attitude" where you dont let things affect you. I agree with the guy who quoted that bit of text that stated depressed people have a more realistic view of the world. I know I did. Now I just try to forget about all the shittiness that is going on around me. You have to not care that the world is corrupt, that thousands of innocent people die everyday for no good reason, that shitty things happen to good people, etc, etc.
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On June 04 2009 08:01 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. sometimes they can't deal. sometimes it's chemical imbalance. read about the damn subject before making comments.
Yeah and this chemical imbalance is the result of aspects of your life; stress at work, stress at home, stress at school etc. Why would you medicate for this, instead of changing the stuff that makes you feel bad? That's just supressing symptoms and making you a patient for no reason at all.
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On June 04 2009 08:08 Lucktar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 08:03 keV. wrote:On June 04 2009 08:01 chaoser wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. sometimes they can't deal. sometimes it's chemical imbalance. read about the damn subject before making comments. I'm deciding not to engage in this stupid topic. Let people keep feeding pharmaceutical companies billions of dollars rather than just watching someone do stand-up. The idea that human life is so spectacular that it has to be lived to the nth degree is just something I don't agree with. There will be people who make history and people who die with nothing to their name. Its just nature in the end. Yeah, and don't forget those stupid fuckers who keep the corrupt hospitals in business with their 'broken limbs' and their 'infections.' Stupid sheeple just need to have a stronger will, man.
Laughable comparison... Nothing else to say there
On June 04 2009 08:09 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. You sir are a fucking retard. If you dont know what you are talking about then shut the fuck up and dont enter these threads. I was depressed when I was younger and it had absolutely nothing to do with other people having a better life than me. I was depressed because of how shitty this world. There are so many fucked up things going on out there and nothing I can do about it. In order to not be depressed I had to develop a "who gives a fuck attitude" where you dont let things affect you. I agree with the guy who quoted that bit of text that stated depressed people have a more realistic view of the world. I know I did. Now I just try to forget about all the shittiness that is going on around me. You have to not care that the world is corrupt, that thousands of innocent people die everyday for no good reason, that shitty things happen to good people, etc, etc.
Yes, I am a fucking retard because I don't inject 10000cc of drama into the human experience, where in the end we are just another fucking animal.
For the record, I agree with being a go-getter and a DIY attitude towards life. I'm just saying, you are not failing at life if you are a depressed person, you are just living it differently. If you don't want to use the life given to you, you can end it.
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On June 04 2009 08:10 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 08:01 chaoser wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. sometimes they can't deal. sometimes it's chemical imbalance. read about the damn subject before making comments. Yeah and this chemical imbalance is the result of aspects of your life; stress at work, stress at home, stress at school etc. Why would you medicate for this, instead of changing the stuff that makes you feel bad? That's just supressing symptoms and making you a patient for no reason at all.
That's like telling a person with a broken leg that he should get used to hopping. Believe it or not, there's a great deal of medical literature documenting depression as a physiological disorder, one that's fully correctable with effective therapy. I'm not sure what your issue with depression is, but I'd suggest doing some research.
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I took some very low dose anti-depressants for a while. I honestly didn't notice much of a difference in mood at all. Lifestyle changes seemed to do the trick for me. Although I was never on any heavy meds I'm gonna have to say not to worry about it, because honestly if too many people were offing themselves after taking certain types of meds, they wouldn't be FDA approved.
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On June 04 2009 08:12 Lucktar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 08:10 Foucault wrote:On June 04 2009 08:01 chaoser wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. sometimes they can't deal. sometimes it's chemical imbalance. read about the damn subject before making comments. Yeah and this chemical imbalance is the result of aspects of your life; stress at work, stress at home, stress at school etc. Why would you medicate for this, instead of changing the stuff that makes you feel bad? That's just supressing symptoms and making you a patient for no reason at all. That's like telling a person with a broken leg that he should get used to hopping. Believe it or not, there's a great deal of medical literature documenting depression as a physiological disorder, one that's fully correctable with effective therapy. I'm not sure what your issue with depression is, but I'd suggest doing some research.
Theres also overwhelming evidence that people who work hard and try and better their life succeed. I'd suggest doing some research.
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On June 04 2009 08:12 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 08:08 Lucktar wrote:On June 04 2009 08:03 keV. wrote:On June 04 2009 08:01 chaoser wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. sometimes they can't deal. sometimes it's chemical imbalance. read about the damn subject before making comments. I'm deciding not to engage in this stupid topic. Let people keep feeding pharmaceutical companies billions of dollars rather than just watching someone do stand-up. The idea that human life is so spectacular that it has to be lived to the nth degree is just something I don't agree with. There will be people who make history and people who die with nothing to their name. Its just nature in the end. Yeah, and don't forget those stupid fuckers who keep the corrupt hospitals in business with their 'broken limbs' and their 'infections.' Stupid sheeple just need to have a stronger will, man. Laughable comparison... Nothing else to say there Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 08:09 Mastermind wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. You sir are a fucking retard. If you dont know what you are talking about then shut the fuck up and dont enter these threads. I was depressed when I was younger and it had absolutely nothing to do with other people having a better life than me. I was depressed because of how shitty this world. There are so many fucked up things going on out there and nothing I can do about it. In order to not be depressed I had to develop a "who gives a fuck attitude" where you dont let things affect you. I agree with the guy who quoted that bit of text that stated depressed people have a more realistic view of the world. I know I did. Now I just try to forget about all the shittiness that is going on around me. You have to not care that the world is corrupt, that thousands of innocent people die everyday for no good reason, that shitty things happen to good people, etc, etc. Yes, I am a fucking retard because I don't inject 10000cc of drama into the human experience, where in the end we are just another fucking animal. For the record, I agree with being a go-getter and a DIY attitude towards life. I'm just saying, you are not failing at life if you are a depressed person, you are just living it differently. If you don't want to use the life given to you, you can end it.
So if you're depressed, either suck it up, or off yourself. Awesome. As has been previously noted, you have a glaring lack of understanding of the medical facts at hand here, and you're making yourself look dumb.
Having depression has nothing to do with not being a 'go-getter' or not having a 'DIY attitude.' Depression isn't just a bad mood, or an overly pessimistic view of the world. It's a physiological disorder, and it's no more valid to tell a depressed person to 'get over it' than to tell that to someone with a broken leg.
EDIT: @ keV. That's true, but that does nothing to dismiss the physiological evidence for depression. You're still failing to take into account the difference between a bad mood and an actual physical illness.
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On June 04 2009 08:16 Lucktar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 08:12 keV. wrote:On June 04 2009 08:08 Lucktar wrote:On June 04 2009 08:03 keV. wrote:On June 04 2009 08:01 chaoser wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. sometimes they can't deal. sometimes it's chemical imbalance. read about the damn subject before making comments. I'm deciding not to engage in this stupid topic. Let people keep feeding pharmaceutical companies billions of dollars rather than just watching someone do stand-up. The idea that human life is so spectacular that it has to be lived to the nth degree is just something I don't agree with. There will be people who make history and people who die with nothing to their name. Its just nature in the end. Yeah, and don't forget those stupid fuckers who keep the corrupt hospitals in business with their 'broken limbs' and their 'infections.' Stupid sheeple just need to have a stronger will, man. Laughable comparison... Nothing else to say there On June 04 2009 08:09 Mastermind wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. You sir are a fucking retard. If you dont know what you are talking about then shut the fuck up and dont enter these threads. I was depressed when I was younger and it had absolutely nothing to do with other people having a better life than me. I was depressed because of how shitty this world. There are so many fucked up things going on out there and nothing I can do about it. In order to not be depressed I had to develop a "who gives a fuck attitude" where you dont let things affect you. I agree with the guy who quoted that bit of text that stated depressed people have a more realistic view of the world. I know I did. Now I just try to forget about all the shittiness that is going on around me. You have to not care that the world is corrupt, that thousands of innocent people die everyday for no good reason, that shitty things happen to good people, etc, etc. Yes, I am a fucking retard because I don't inject 10000cc of drama into the human experience, where in the end we are just another fucking animal. For the record, I agree with being a go-getter and a DIY attitude towards life. I'm just saying, you are not failing at life if you are a depressed person, you are just living it differently. If you don't want to use the life given to you, you can end it. So if you're depressed, either suck it up, or off yourself. Awesome. As has been previously noted, you have a glaring lack of understanding of the medical facts at hand here, and you're making yourself look dumb. Having depression has nothing to do with not being a 'go-getter' or not having a 'DIY attitude.' Depression isn't just a bad mood, or an overly pessimistic view of the world. It's a physiological disorder, and it's no more valid to tell a depressed person to 'get over it' than to tell that to someone with a broken leg. EDIT: @ keV. That's true, but that does nothing to dismiss the physiological evidence for depression. You're still failing to take into account the difference between a bad mood and an actual physical illness.
I never said depression was fake.
The consumerists ideal that pills solve everything is what gives anti-depression meds all the wrong power.
Maybe some people really do have this anti-world attitude about everything. That doesn't mean the majority of people who are prescribed anti-depressants aren't just dealing with life's expected woes.
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On June 04 2009 08:12 Lucktar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 08:10 Foucault wrote:On June 04 2009 08:01 chaoser wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. sometimes they can't deal. sometimes it's chemical imbalance. read about the damn subject before making comments. Yeah and this chemical imbalance is the result of aspects of your life; stress at work, stress at home, stress at school etc. Why would you medicate for this, instead of changing the stuff that makes you feel bad? That's just supressing symptoms and making you a patient for no reason at all. That's like telling a person with a broken leg that he should get used to hopping. Believe it or not, there's a great deal of medical literature documenting depression as a physiological disorder, one that's fully correctable with effective therapy. I'm not sure what your issue with depression is, but I'd suggest doing some research.
No it's not the same thing as you can affect your well-being all by yourself by actually doing something; working out, meeting people, eating good food with vitamins/minerals that your body/brain needs, analyze your depressed thoughts etc etc. Someone can't do this by themselves in order to cure a broken leg in the same way, so your comparison doesn't hold at all.
And yeah, I know all about medical literature on depression and I'm not saying depression isn't real in any way. I'm saying it's a result of envivonmental stress on the organism, and the key to feeling better is structuring up your life, learning what makes you feel depressed, eat healthier, work out etc. Surely people have variances in personality and some people feel more negative feelings more often than other people, BUT that is huge dependant on environmental factors.
I have probably read 10 times more than you have on depression and other mental "illnesses" btw.
"Effective therapy" doesn't have to include these stupid drugs. The idea that a person needs treatment for these symptoms is quite weird too, he/she is not an object that should be treated since the depression is NOT an isolated event within the person. It's a result of his/her environment and lifestyle.
The idea of comparing depression to a broken leg is so simplistic and like an argument made for 4-year olds to understand, while the actual etiology behind depression is much more complicated.
For example more and more anti-depressants are prescribed, yet people feel worse and report more depression and anxiety at large. Why would that be? Shouldn't these drugs have a huge positive impact on these conditions? Could it be that they actually don't work that well? Yes.
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LOL, of course there's a link.
BREAKING NEWS!!! Links found between chemotherapy and death by cancer. STOP THE PRESSES!!!!
sheesh
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On June 04 2009 08:22 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 08:12 Lucktar wrote:On June 04 2009 08:10 Foucault wrote:On June 04 2009 08:01 chaoser wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. sometimes they can't deal. sometimes it's chemical imbalance. read about the damn subject before making comments. Yeah and this chemical imbalance is the result of aspects of your life; stress at work, stress at home, stress at school etc. Why would you medicate for this, instead of changing the stuff that makes you feel bad? That's just supressing symptoms and making you a patient for no reason at all. That's like telling a person with a broken leg that he should get used to hopping. Believe it or not, there's a great deal of medical literature documenting depression as a physiological disorder, one that's fully correctable with effective therapy. I'm not sure what your issue with depression is, but I'd suggest doing some research. No it's not the same thing as you can affect your well-being all by yourself by actually doing something; working out, meeting people, eating good food with vitamins/minerals that your body/brain needs, analyze your depressed thoughts etc etc. Someone can't do this by themselves in order to cure a broken leg in the same way, so your comparison doesn't hold at all. And yeah, I know all about medical literature on depression and I'm not saying depression isn't real in any way. I'm saying it's a result of envivonmental stress on the organism, and the key to feeling better is structuring up your life, learning what makes you feel depressed, eat healthier, work out etc. Surely people have variances in personality and some people feel more negative feelings more often than other people, BUT that is huge dependant on environmental factors. I have probably read 10 times more than you have on depression and other mental "illnesses" btw. "Effective therapy" doesn't have to include these stupid drugs. The idea that a person needs treatment for these symptoms is quite weird too, he/she is not an object that should be treated since the depression is NOT an isolated event within the person. It's a result of his/her environment and lifestyle. The idea of comparing depression to a broken leg is so simplistic and like an argument made for 4-year olds to understand, while the actual etiology behind depression is much more complicated. For example more and more anti-depressants are prescribed, yet people feel worse and report more depression and anxiety at large. Why would that be? Shouldn't these drugs have a huge positive impact on these conditions? Could it be that they actually don't work that well? Yes.
No one is saying that effective therapy to treat depression HAS to include anti-depressants. You make the argument that someone who is depressed should just go out and change their environment and lifestyle. Sometimes that isn't easy for people, and anti-depressants can be effectively used to help a person while they are making lifestyle and environmental changes. It is true that anti-depressants aren't a cure for depression, as they alter chemical concentrations in the brain (dopamine, seratonin, etc.) to mask the symptoms, but if masking symptoms of depression for a little while so a person can get their life in order helps, why not do it?
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I dunno if this has been said but did OP ever think of the fact that depressed people in general are more likely to commit suicide/hurt themselves?
So depressed people getting prozac doesn't mean the drug is to blame. It probably prevented more than it caused.
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On June 04 2009 08:27 qrs wrote:
LOL, of course there's a link.
BREAKING NEWS!!! Links found between chemotherapy and death by cancer. STOP THE PRESSES!!!!
sheesh
you sir are correct.
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The argument is 1:1
I was watching this A&E show where they show you live cases of solved mysteries and murders and what not. Some kid killed his grandparents and the defense used Zoloft or w/e anti-depressant as their main argument, saying that is triggered some kinda imbalance in his head.
They brought in scientists and what not to agree with their case. But for every scientist or psychiatrist they brought in, the prosecution team also had one to argue AGAINST.
It's weird =\
Anyway, the kid was guilty because he showed enough sense to try and cover up the murder apparently.
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On June 04 2009 08:22 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 08:12 Lucktar wrote:On June 04 2009 08:10 Foucault wrote:On June 04 2009 08:01 chaoser wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. sometimes they can't deal. sometimes it's chemical imbalance. read about the damn subject before making comments. Yeah and this chemical imbalance is the result of aspects of your life; stress at work, stress at home, stress at school etc. Why would you medicate for this, instead of changing the stuff that makes you feel bad? That's just supressing symptoms and making you a patient for no reason at all. That's like telling a person with a broken leg that he should get used to hopping. Believe it or not, there's a great deal of medical literature documenting depression as a physiological disorder, one that's fully correctable with effective therapy. I'm not sure what your issue with depression is, but I'd suggest doing some research. No it's not the same thing as you can affect your well-being all by yourself by actually doing something; working out, meeting people, eating good food with vitamins/minerals that your body/brain needs, analyze your depressed thoughts etc etc. Someone can't do this by themselves in order to cure a broken leg in the same way, so your comparison doesn't hold at all.
Fair enough, there are loads of things that can help treat depression in addition to medication. I'l grant you that. But that doesn't invalidate the usefulness of antidepressants.
On June 04 2009 08:22 Foucault wrote:And yeah, I know all about medical literature on depression and I'm not saying depression isn't real in any way. I'm saying it's a result of envivonmental stress on the organism, and the key to feeling better is structuring up your life, learning what makes you feel depressed, eat healthier, work out etc. Surely people have variances in personality and some people feel more negative feelings more often than other people, BUT that is huge dependant on environmental factors.
A lot of depression is dependent on environmental stress, as you point out, but there's a pretty large amount that isn't, as well. You can't just say that depression is feeling sad about things that happen in life, and write everything else off as 'variances in personality.'
On June 04 2009 08:22 Foucault wrote:I have probably read 10 times more than you have on depression and other mental "illnesses" btw.
Good to know, sport. I've been in treatment for depression for about 2 years, and I've spent the last 18 months working in a state mental hospital. I spent the 2 years before that studying psychiatric nursing. I've done my homework too. 
On June 04 2009 08:22 Foucault wrote:"Effective therapy" doesn't have to include these stupid drugs. The idea that a person needs treatment for these symptoms is quite weird too, he/she is not an object that should be treated since the depression is NOT an isolated event within the person. It's a result of his/her environment and lifestyle.
In many cases, you're right, effective therapy doesn't need to include drugs. I know one case in particular where a patient simply didn't like the way that antidepressants made him feel, so he started a strenuous exercise program. He now runs marathons on the weekends. And I'm not sure what your point is with your objectification argument. Are you saying that depression is simply a personality trait and therefore not something that could be treated?
On June 04 2009 08:22 Foucault wrote:The idea of comparing depression to a broken leg is so simplistic and like an argument made for 4-year olds to understand, while the actual etiology behind depression is much more complicated.
You're absolutely right, it is. But saying that it's just a result of environmental circumstances and that you just need to eat better and exercise is equally stupid and simplistic.
On June 04 2009 08:22 Foucault wrote:For example more and more anti-depressants are prescribed, yet people feel worse and report more depression and anxiety at large. Why would that be? Shouldn't these drugs have a huge positive impact on these conditions? Could it be that they actually don't work that well? Yes.
Correlation does not imply causation. Depression is far more widely diagnosed today than even 5 years ago, as the stigma toward mental illnesses decreases and more people actually seek help for depression instead of simply dealing with it. I'd suggest trying to find a study on the incidence of depression among people taking antidepressants; That'd offer some much more relevant statistics.
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if she had smoked some weed and then killed herself the govt would have blown this story wide open
a few anomalies doesn't justify any correlation between the two. there isn't a strong enough relationship.
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On June 04 2009 08:22 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 08:12 Lucktar wrote:On June 04 2009 08:10 Foucault wrote:On June 04 2009 08:01 chaoser wrote:On June 04 2009 07:52 keV. wrote:
Depression spawns from the idea that other people have a better life than you.
THEY DON'T
LIFE IS HARD. DEAL. sometimes they can't deal. sometimes it's chemical imbalance. read about the damn subject before making comments. Yeah and this chemical imbalance is the result of aspects of your life; stress at work, stress at home, stress at school etc. Why would you medicate for this, instead of changing the stuff that makes you feel bad? That's just supressing symptoms and making you a patient for no reason at all. That's like telling a person with a broken leg that he should get used to hopping. Believe it or not, there's a great deal of medical literature documenting depression as a physiological disorder, one that's fully correctable with effective therapy. I'm not sure what your issue with depression is, but I'd suggest doing some research. And yeah, I know all about medical literature on depression and I'm not saying depression isn't real in any way. I'm saying it's a result of envivonmental stress on the organism, and the key to feeling better is structuring up your life, learning what makes you feel depressed, eat healthier, work out etc. Surely people have variances in personality and some people feel more negative feelings more often than other people, BUT that is huge dependant on environmental factors. I have probably read 10 times more than you have on depression and other mental "illnesses" btw. "Effective therapy" doesn't have to include these stupid drugs. The idea that a person needs treatment for these symptoms is quite weird too, he/she is not an object that should be treated since the depression is NOT an isolated event within the person. It's a result of his/her environment and lifestyle. The idea of comparing depression to a broken leg is so simplistic and like an argument made for 4-year olds to understand, while the actual etiology behind depression is much more complicated. For example more and more anti-depressants are prescribed, yet people feel worse and report more depression and anxiety at large. Why would that be? Shouldn't these drugs have a huge positive impact on these conditions? Could it be that they actually don't work that well? Yes.
If you have any real-world contact with the field of psychiatry, you will see just how many people anti-depressants have positively influenced. You using a blanket term of "stupid drugs" is both a sign of ignorance and moreover, an insult to the many patients whose lives were changed for the better by these medications.
In addition, depression, like most things, is the result of the combination of both physiological and environmental factors. Medications treat one aspect of depression, and by no means are miracle drugs. Many people expect them to be, and that may explain why when it doesn't seem to immediately improve the symptoms, people may quickly write them off as useless. Add to the fact that people have different sensitivities to anti-depressants, and you can see why negative reports can easily surface.
Drug companies are not the evil behemoths that people make them out to be. They ARE profit driven, but the science behind the drugs are in the vast majority of cases, very sound. The FDA is extremely tight in controlling new drugs for approval, and although there have been scandals in the past, I assure you that all the necessary precautions are implemented nowadays for drug approval. Drug companies, in fact, are super sensitive to all drawbacks of medications, especially with the litigitous culture of today.
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On June 04 2009 08:59 pyrogenetix wrote:
if she had smoked some weed and then killed herself the govt would have blown this story wide open
a few anomalies doesn't justify any correlation between the two. there isn't a strong enough relationship.
Anecdotal evidence is the best kind of evidence!
+ Show Spoiler +Doesn't matter if this happened once, or 10,000 times, it wouldn't be convincing. Just warranting of some attention. That said, there's more to be discussed here than just a news clipping. Anti-depressants have always had very unpredictable effects, helping some people, and making things worse for others. Neural science isn't even close to being well understood. It's more like trial and error right now.
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