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Profile Joined June 2004
Canada314 Posts
May 21 2009 20:30 GMT
#261
The theory of evolution keeps...evolving.
April showers bring May flowers bring June bugs bring JulyZerg.
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
May 21 2009 20:36 GMT
#262
On May 22 2009 05:13 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2009 04:55 Aegraen wrote:
Then how come so many people take evolution as fact?


They take it as a fact because it is. Evolution is both a theory and a fact. Populations of biological organisms change over time; that is evolution and that is a fact. The explanations for how and why these changes occur are the theory and will probably be continuously revised into the foreseeable future.

QFT.
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
May 21 2009 22:09 GMT
#263
On May 22 2009 05:09 Diomedes wrote:
Misrah, you are an asshole while Aegraen is only an idiot. Well done.


mmmk then. I will take your constructive criticism to heart <3
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 21 2009 22:13 GMT
#264
On May 22 2009 05:13 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2009 04:55 Aegraen wrote:
Then how come so many people take evolution as fact?


They take it as a fact because it is. Evolution is both a theory and a fact. Populations of biological organisms change over time; that is evolution and that is a fact. The explanations for how and why these changes occur are the theory and will probably be continuously revised into the foreseeable future.


Very true, people believed in evolution way before Darwin, however, it was not a mainstream theory simply because the mechanism people had provided was not viable. What Darwin did was propose a mechanism for evolution that made sense. Whats funny is that while they accepted most of his theories, Natural Selection was almost universally rejected at first.
Never Knows Best.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
May 21 2009 22:14 GMT
#265
looks like a dino to me
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 22:24:15
May 21 2009 22:23 GMT
#266
On May 22 2009 04:55 Aegraen wrote:
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On May 22 2009 04:48 irishash wrote:
c'mon misrah, if you wanna talk about supposed molecular interactions between myosin and actin, there's a thread for that. bottom line is none of these theories are confirmed, which is why they're called theories. we're learning new things everyday in fields like these that completely change the way we look at life or how life works/originates/whatever.


Then how come so many people take evolution as fact?


Because evolution is a fact. Natural and sexual selection are Darwin's theories that attempt to explain the mechanism of evolution.

Put simply, evolution is the change in allele frequencies in a population over time. This is a documented fact.

Darwin theorized that this occured due to natural selection and sexual selection. A side effect of this theory is that all major families of organisms existing today are theorized to have descended from a common ancestor, given the common molecular mechanisms of all major families of organisms organisms.

There are possible fringe exceptions with some microorganisms, but all multicellular organisms are sufficiently similar in their basic chemistry that this theory is very well-supported.

On May 22 2009 04:55 Aegraen wrote:

As I pointed out earlier, its no different than religious zealotry. It's human nature. Humans will always instinctively believe in 'something' on faith.


Which has nothing to do with this.


I will eat you alive
DarkYoDA
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States1347 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 22:42:06
May 21 2009 22:39 GMT
#267
Wow finding this fossil finally convinced everyone here we're monkeys! Cool! This is so convincing indeed! Come on man let's find more bones intermediate to the process of the primate standing even straighter and bone structure even flatter and form them in one straight line and there, we have evolution... Congrates on this very Einsteinic view of life. Totally flawless
It's a comedy to claim thy superiority when it's anothers' inferiority which elevated thy mediocrity
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 21 2009 23:06 GMT
#268
Missing link my ass; that's all I have to say.
Life?
feathers
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States236 Posts
May 22 2009 00:15 GMT
#269
looks like a fucking monkey to me.
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
May 22 2009 00:41 GMT
#270
On May 22 2009 08:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Missing link my ass; that's all I have to say.


[image loading]
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
May 22 2009 01:00 GMT
#271
crazy find man =]
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 22 2009 03:17 GMT
#272
On May 22 2009 07:39 DarkYoDA wrote:
Wow finding this fossil finally convinced everyone here we're monkeys! Cool! This is so convincing indeed! Come on man let's find more bones intermediate to the process of the primate standing even straighter and bone structure even flatter and form them in one straight line and there, we have evolution... Congrates on this very Einsteinic view of life. Totally flawless

Congrats on still being an idiot.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 22 2009 03:33 GMT
#273
After scratching my head for a while, I think I finally understand why is it so hard to get into some people's head something so simple like the theory of evolution.

I have found many examples on nature that was really hard to explain as well (there is a moph who emits ultra-sounds in the same freq as bats, to fool them, how the hell did that evolve?). But instead of quitting and saying evolution 'must' be wrong, I just took my time thinking about it until I finally figured it out. But some people don't do that, this is how it goes:

Normal reasonable person:
- Finds one example that cannot explain with evolution theory
- thinks "hmm.. maybe I'm missing something, I'll try to figure it out"
- scratches head for minutes/hours/days/whatever
- figures it out
- concludes evolution might make sense and is a valid theory as far as my limited knowledge goes

Emotional arrogant:
- Finds one example that cannot explain with evolution theory
- thinks "wait.. if I, myself, cannot understand it, it must be wrong"
- avoids thinking about it because it hurts his ego
- concludes evolution is wrong, that random Darwin guy must be dumb
- "aaahh.. feels so good to think that I'm smart!"
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 22 2009 03:41 GMT
#274
Sums it up well.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
ChainLightning
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada21 Posts
May 22 2009 03:54 GMT
#275
Cool, the fossil record is becoming more complete (though it will never even come close :-P). Also, there's no missing link, it's missing links: there's likely more than one transitional stage.

As for Science vs Religion, sure you can be a member of some religious denomination and accept evolution, look at Francis Collins (What went wrong!). Science always starts with the assumption that there is nothing supernatural and sees how far it can go with that assumption, which means we've been moving on without God in the equation for some time now.

I'm as agnostic about God as I am about faeries and goblins.
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
May 22 2009 04:01 GMT
#276
no logic or evidence will ever do anything to sway creationists, if they were susceptible to factual evidence or logical thinking they would have ceased to be creationists long before now
Some eat to remember, some smash to forget. 2009msl.com
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