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Hi,
I have a problem bigger than myself, I can't solve it, I need your help!
I am actually a person who likes to sleep at night and be awake at day. But I live in an appartment building with a lot of young people who go to college and university and stuff, but it is in the middle of the city. In the summer they like to throw parties which produce obnoxious noise which prevents me to sleep.
edit: to be clear, there are like 50 appartments in this building, the parties are not held in my own appartment. Allthough I appreciate any input, filing a complaint does not help, cause it is a different appartment which does the party each time.
So I need a way to kill parties.
Rules and setting:
1) The parties are held in the livingroom/kitchen which I can easily access during the party.
2) I don't want to offend legal boundaries too much in the sence of me going to jail or smt (so I won't throw a molotov cocktail into the crowd unless someone comes up with a way that I cant be identified later)
3) The people at the party are drunk and dumb. I am still clearheaded.
The methods I came up with (not tested yet) are:
- cutting the chords to / from the amplifier
- create a short-circuit. Mind these party goers should be drunk and dump at the time, I aim at them not being able to fix it during the night.
Anyone has any other ideas?
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discuss with your flatmates?
move out?
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What a party pooper.
On a serious note, the best you can do is to file a noise complaint. Make sure you make it serious enough that the apartment security goes and shuts the party down if need be. They will find another place to continue their party. We always do. ^_^
Or you can just join them!
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your flatmates will love you for this. your days will be as enjoyable as your nights right now.
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Get some earplugs. Really, if you're living in a house filled with college kids, the chances of you stopping all their partying is nonexistant.
But yea, like Gliche said, file a complaint. If there's any regulations the other tenants are breaking that you can use to slow the kids down a bit, go for it. The threat of getting kicked out should at least give you a little peace.
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On May 16 2009 19:43 distant_voice wrote:
your flatmates will love you for this. your days will be as enjoyable as your nights right now.
Agreed.
Why the fuck would you even consider doing this? 'I need my sleep' - ok, live in solitude then, don't take your shit out on others.
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call the cops.
ppl get driven out.
then they hate u.
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You can't kill the metal
The metal will live on
Punk-Rock tried to kill the metal
But they failed, as they were smite to the ground
New-wave tried to kill the metal
But they failed, as they were stricken down to the ground
Grunge tried to kill the metal Ha,hahahahaha
They failed, as they were thrown to the ground
Aargh! yaow!
No-one can destroy the metal
The metal will strike you down with a vicious blow
We are the vanquished foes of the metal
We tried to win for why we do not know
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just use ear plugs. grow up man.
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This is not something i want to be a part of lol.
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earplugs and construct a soundwall from furniture around your bed + sleep with everything except mouth under a thick layer of whatever is soft + get really stoned and the bass from music will actually feel like a massage while you are falling asleep and be really nice.
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Here, problem solved. You're welcome.
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2) I don't want to offend legal boundaries too much in the sence of me going to jail or smt (so I won't throw a molotov cocktail into the crowd unless someone comes up with a way that I cant be identified later)
Wow, you're both a bitter hermit and a sociopath. Congratulations on the blazing success that is your life.
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You can google and find blueprints how to make a "poff" (bet it's not called poff everywhere)
I have descriptions in swedish you can bablefish or ask someone to translate if you want or just ignore it =P
+ Show Spoiler +4.0 Hur du gör din egen Poff!
En poff är en slags kortslutare. Funktionen är enkel, du stoppar in poffen
i vägguttaget och proppen går. Det finns två olika sorters poff.
Version 1:
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Koppla fast en dubbelledare i en stickpropp och låt ungefär en halvmeter
sladd hänga utanför. Skala de båda ledarna längst ut ett par centimeter.
När du sedan har stoppat i stickproppen i uttaget, för du ihop de båda
sladdarna utan att röra kopparn (då du utan förvarning får 230 volt in i
tummen!). En ljudlig gnista uppstår som dessutom dödar proppen som hörde
till uttaget.
Version 2:
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Den här poffen (Som är ganska mycket säkrare att använda) kopplar du ganska
enkelt, du kopplar en sladd mellan de två polerna inuti en stickpropp. Den
här är för övrigt den behändigaste poffen att ha med sig i skolan,
arbetsplatsen, biblioteket, köpcentrumet osv...
Kommentar: När du "poffat" uttaget finns det ingen ström i detsamma tills
vaktmästaren eller dylik person bytt propp. Stick under tiden in en
intressant pryl i uttaget som aktiveras när strömmen slås på igen. Exempel:
Eltriggad bomb/smällare, en poff till, eller varför inte en likriktare med
inkopplad underdimensionerad bakvänd elektrolytkondensator (Icke eldfängd
explosion inträffar då här, och utvecklar kraftigt illaluktande ångor).
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I was in the same situation as you many times in the apartment I moved, so I can feel your pain. First I tried to be good and actually went to the parties, explaining them that they are no allowed to make any serious noise after 23:00. While they were saying: "yes, man; sure; no problem, we'll be quite", they still continued their parties, without any attempt to clam down. Just like you I was ready to kill the whole party. But I did not want to go to cell after that(: So I started warning them that I will be forced to call the Police. Surprisingly, they still did not want to hear me(: After warning them, I had all the moral rights to call the Police, which I actually did.
I did it 3 times for different parties, and each time the Police forced them to stop the party. No parties in the same place afterwards. We live in a civil world and I can't understand how people can sleep with earplugs (WTF???). You have the right to call the Police, because it is them who are doing something wrong, not you. Besides you actually warned them!!!
To summarize:
1) Go to the party, ask them to call the guy who actually lives in the apartment.
2) Stay calm, and simply explain that there is a lot of noise from their party, you can not sleep and this is not just about you: they prevent all the people in your building from sleeping as well. Let them know that if they will not calm down, you call the Police. Do not forget to say thank you very much at the end of your conversation(:
3) If they do not calm down and you still can not sleep, call the Police and enjoy the show. One bad thing is that they will probably come up only after couple of hours. But there is a big chance not to hear this party anymore.
Good luck!
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Thank you tiatara, this is exaclty how the situation is. On other parties, I also went to the parties nicely and asked them to tune it down. But they act like "we have a right to party". So I send the police to them. Worked pretty ok.
I am still a bit in a kill mood since my cellphone had no credit and this time the party stopped only at 7:15 am. But you are right, I should stick with the police.
Last night I went there at 1:30 and 5:00 nicely. At 6:30 I just shutdown their music station. But when I left they powered it back on. Thats why I needed stuff like cutting wires. Thinking back to it, I could trow them over the balcony. But when I am over there, I see they are just silly people trying hard to have fun.
Thanks again, I needed to vent, and you had the right answer.
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On May 16 2009 20:04 lazz wrote:
just use ear plugs. grow up man.
One should not have to use ear plus to sleep at night in ones own apartment.
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On May 16 2009 21:13 NotSupporting wrote:One should not have to use ear plus to sleep at night in ones own apartment.
one should use earplugs instead of cutting the wire to amplifiers and ruining peoples parties
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On May 16 2009 21:17 Zurles wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2009 21:13 NotSupporting wrote:On May 16 2009 20:04 lazz wrote:
just use ear plugs. grow up man. One should not have to use ear plus to sleep at night in ones own apartment. one should use earplugs instead of cutting the wire to amplifiers and ruining peoples parties
What the heck? People who party shouldn't disturb people who don't like parties. If the partygoers destroys people's sleep time, those people whi are affected should destroy the partygoer's fun times two.
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don't live in a place with college students. it comes with the territory.
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I don't live on a campus or anything alike.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
damn taht sucks. i'm a really light sleeper but i like to sleep at night and w/e. sometimes my houssemates randomly bring ppl over at like 4 in the morning and they're rowdy / drunk and noisy and i instantly get woken up and cant sleep again till i feel tired at 8 or 9 in the morning -_-
good luck with ur building
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gas them with something through the vents.
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On May 16 2009 22:03 besiger wrote:
gas them with something through the vents.
Ill go with nitrous oxide.
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
Ask them to stop then start calling the police every time. Seriously, don't let people tell you that you are a party pooper, or a loser for wanting to be able to sleep in your own damn place. You work your ass off so you can pay rent in a place that you want to be able to go back to and sleep at night.
People grow up these days with no common courtesy.
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On May 16 2009 21:29 choboPEon wrote:
don't live in a place with college students. it comes with the territory.
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I think you have mistaken this forum for 4chan.
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a friend of mine used a specially wired plug which would just immediately short out all the fuses in the block of flats. worked for him.
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i was going to give u advice but you live in the netherlands, so i dont know the police policies and laws there, i would suggest looking them up, here they will go ask them to keep the noise down, and give them one warning don't know how it works there, also i think someone mentioned but going to talk to them yourself might be a good idea, and might seem less anal than calling police, maybe ask just to keep the noise down and not have the music so loud.
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dude tough shit, ur living in crappy apartments
no reason to be an asshole to people who make the best of it.
live somewhere else or learn to deal with it is my recommendation
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On May 16 2009 21:24 T.O.P. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2009 21:17 Zurles wrote:On May 16 2009 21:13 NotSupporting wrote:On May 16 2009 20:04 lazz wrote:
just use ear plugs. grow up man. One should not have to use ear plus to sleep at night in ones own apartment. one should use earplugs instead of cutting the wire to amplifiers and ruining peoples parties What the heck? People who party shouldn't disturb people who don't like parties. If the partygoers destroys people's sleep time, those people whi are affected should destroy the partygoer's fun times two.
dude, people have to party somewhere
some places have histories of partyage that precede the needs of 1 college student. when u choose to live in shitty apartments shared by 50 people that is a risk u choose. other people learn to deal with this so so can he.
I have dealt with this many-a-time and while it is annoying as fuck, the solution is not to be an asshole and repeatedly ruin everyone else's fun, that's ridiculous.
that said, there are boundaries the party-goers should live by. it would help him if he got to know the other people living in the apartments. if no one cares about the partiers, then it's obvious he should stfu. if a ton of people agree with him, then now he has backup and it's easier to make the partiers stfu.
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Why don't you like parties?
I mean who doesn't like them? they are the most fun you can get with people and it's one of the best ways to meet new people and expand your horizons...
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I highly doubt that when you got the place you were completely unaware that its populated by college students. Some places are going to be loud, what can you do about it? Not move in there if you cant handle it.
Being a dick about it is just going to cause problems, and might get your ass kicked.
In the end it really doesnt matter what you do, people are going party regardless. Its also very difficult to calm down a big party so you cant get angry at the host.
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On May 17 2009 00:05 funkie wrote:
Why don't you like parties?
I mean who doesn't like them? they are the most fun you can get with people and it's one of the best ways to meet new people and expand your horizons...
this is a starcraft forum which is full of socially retarded nerd virgins
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also some people just don't want to party lol
I mean they do tend to be populated by shallow people doing shallow things
(not judging it, but we all know it's true!)
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Amazing how lack of sleep really invokes the urge to kill people. I remember I genuinely was thinking up ways to murder my freshman roommate because he blasted music 24/7 and partied in our dorm room all the time. I could never get any sleep and I was going insane by the end of the year.
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On May 17 2009 00:16 travis wrote:
also some people just don't want to party lol
I mean they do tend to be populated by shallow people doing shallow things
(not judging it, but we all know it's true!)
not my parties!
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On May 17 2009 00:36 MarklarMarklar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 00:16 travis wrote:
also some people just don't want to party lol
I mean they do tend to be populated by shallow people doing shallow things
(not judging it, but we all know it's true!) not my parties!
just your blogs?
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
I suggest asking them kindly (ask the host). a) Try to reason it out, ask them to keep the volume down, and that you're not the only one affected by their party. b) If things get rough, just leave. Who knows what drunk teens may do to you.
If you have encountered scenario b), proceed to do the following:
Wait for a few days
Short their circuit during their next party
Sleep with happiness
or
Do something crazy like what happens in Saw.
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Stop being a nerd and go over and party. Call the cops if you want to make your life miserable.
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-orb- I am aware of that. That is the fucked up thing of the situation. People do weird things when they are violently kept out of their sleep.
If you think home is the place you go to where you can rest and be yourself; you're only half way right. It's when you sleep when you relax and can let go of the things and be yourself.
We have an expression which goes something like "tommorow is another day". When you don't sleep, there is no tommorow.
Also: the people at these parties get enough money from mom, dad and the state so they dont have to work. Because they dont have to work they have time to attend parties till early in the morning. But because they dont work, they dont have enough money to go to a proper party in a club or something.
I work, I go to clubs. But somehow they thing since they are lazy shitheads they can trow parties at home.
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You should always be able tof ile noise complaints if it's effecting your current location. Why would it not being your apartment stop it from working? Otherwise, cutting cords to an amp will probably get you caught and your ass kicked. Don't be a douchebag. Get ear plugs if you can't call the police. If they wont do anything then there is a chance you're overreacting. If it was really loud enough they would do something. I'm sure the NL aren't retarded.
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anonymous noise complaint, if there is such a thing
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just get a smelly dog carcass and through it in the living room. that oughta to clear everyone out
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Private parties tend to be more fun than parties at a club, IMHO; no bouncers, no expensive drinks and you control the music.
If you were surprised by this extensive partying, perhaps you should've looked a little closer when you bought/rented the place. As people have already said living in an area with college students you have to expect parties.
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On May 16 2009 20:04 lazz wrote:
just use ear plugs. grow up man.
/signed
On May 16 2009 21:13 NotSupporting wrote:One should not have to use ear plus to sleep at night in ones own apartment.
If there is no rule against partys at your place, its really your problem, you moved there. You move to a place with that many people, you should expect this, if it is allowed.
And its not like its every night? Once or twice a week with earplugs. whats the problem?
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On May 17 2009 00:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 00:36 MarklarMarklar wrote:On May 17 2009 00:16 travis wrote:
also some people just don't want to party lol
I mean they do tend to be populated by shallow people doing shallow things
(not judging it, but we all know it's true!) not my parties! just your blogs?
yes
bbl on my way to a bbq
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Yeah there are legally enforceable noise restrictions where I come from, and I imagine there are similar rules in most civilized areas.
Tolerating loud parties once in a while is completely fine, but when they are sufficiently frequent so as to seriously interfere with your sleep of course you should do something about it.
Right to physical/mental health supercede "right to party" - I'm really surprised to see something like that on this forum.
OP is obviously not serious about vandalism - he is clearly cranky because he has not had a lot of sleep.
So yeah I'm in support of warning followed by police, or earplugs if police are not a possibility.
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Get ear plugs. I'm pretty sure nothing you do short of actually murdering them or having them incarcerated will permanently stop them from partying. Ear plugs are cheap and will benefit you in the future. If they're by some ungodly chance still too noisy, keep a noisy fan on at night. Make sure to do your homework before buying too. Just common sense.
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On May 16 2009 21:12 Navane wrote:
Thank you tiatara, this is exaclty how the situation is. On other parties, I also went to the parties nicely and asked them to tune it down. But they act like "we have a right to party". So I send the police to them. Worked pretty ok.
I am still a bit in a kill mood since my cellphone had no credit and this time the party stopped only at 7:15 am. But you are right, I should stick with the police.
Last night I went there at 1:30 and 5:00 nicely. At 6:30 I just shutdown their music station. But when I left they powered it back on. Thats why I needed stuff like cutting wires. Thinking back to it, I could trow them over the balcony. But when I am over there, I see they are just silly people trying hard to have fun.
Thanks again, I needed to vent, and you had the right answer.
So, maybe apartments are different there than they are here, but let me get this straight... you went into their apartment, turned off their music, and walked out just fine? And you think these guys are unreasonable? That would have gotten you smacked in the face, at the very least, at most parties that I've been to.
Anyway, there's no need to mess up their stuff when a call to the police will shut down a party pretty quickly.
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clog their toilet then file a noise complaint
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If you jsut want to mess with them, then consider using that "liquid ass" oder someone else posted in this thread. That stuff will clear out a stadium.
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Go sleep at your gf's, that 's what I do when I know they're gonna have a party and I really need to sleep.  Most of the time I don't mind the noise, though.
On May 17 2009 00:15 MarklarMarklar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 00:05 funkie wrote:
Why don't you like parties?
I mean who doesn't like them? they are the most fun you can get with people and it's one of the best ways to meet new people and expand your horizons...
this is a starcraft forum which is full of socially retarded nerd virgins
You're either a huge dick or a huge troll. Either way, a lot sadder than the people you mention. ^_^;
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all people suggesting earplugs must be silly and/or have never dealt with the situation of trying to sleep among heavy bass and loud screaming/cheering whatever
my friend, who's a very light sleeper, bought a box of industrial-strength earplugs (cuz they only come in packs of 100pairs or more for about $50 US), so he gave me some to try it out. if there's a party nearby, they do fuck-all to help you sleep. (nearby as in, say, directly above you).
i can't even imagine how terrible normal earplugs must be =/
and yeah, actually going to the party and enjoying yourself is a viable solution (unless you really need your sleep, in which case you're sol)
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To people who are accusing the OP of being a jerk... YOU DONT FUCK WITH SOMEONE'S SLEEP. That's a basic need. It comes before your desire to slap asses with a bunch of losers. Sleep. Shelter. Food. If someone has a party and they destroy your home, you're going to be mad. If someone has a party and they eat all your food, you're going to be mad. If someone has a party and they kill your sleep, why is it suddenly different?
I'll admit, ideally he shouldn't be living with college students in the first place if this is bothering him, but I'm sure if he could live somewhere else he would. Fuck what a bunch of idiots living off their parents money want. If they had work and studied, they would want to sleep at night too. There's no reason they can't go to clubs if they want to be noisy jerks.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On May 17 2009 00:20 -orb- wrote:
Amazing how lack of sleep really invokes the urge to kill people. I remember I genuinely was thinking up ways to murder my freshman roommate because he blasted music 24/7 and partied in our dorm room all the time. I could never get any sleep and I was going insane by the end of the year.
God damn I hate those fuckers. Man so glad I'm getting my own room next semester.
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To those telling him to 'buy earplugs' or man up, and stop being a 'party pooper', its time for you guys to grow up and live in the real world. This guy pays to come home and get decent rest so he can work with some modicum of unfrizzledness (New word; thank me).
My advice: Tell them to turn the music down and stop being loud, if they don't oblige call the police. Next time they have a party, ask them again; if they don't oblige call cops. After two times, they should get the message, from then on just call the cops. If they are still loud after repeated cop calls then you can get creative, but thats much more riskier.
Sleep is the holy grail of existence. Without sleep, you suffer from increased health risks, mood alterings, weight loss/gain, etc. It's not something to mess with.
My other advice is whenever you can get out of your lease do so. Secondly, if its prior to 10 o' clock don't bother them, after about 10:15 though, thats when I would, especially for myself when I have to get up at 4:15AM, luckily my apartment building is mostly inhabited by working adults.
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Just move out if you don't like it.
Be serious, you're not going to stop some college guys/girls from having fun no matter what.
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On May 17 2009 03:00 Pika Chu wrote:
Just move out if you don't like it.
Be serious, you're not going to stop some college guys/girls from having fun no matter what.
I'm kind of wondering here how many people live out on their own. You can't simply just leave, there is this thing called a lease.
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Calling the police is the safest, most morally correct option. Their right to "have fun" doesn't supersede your right to be able to sleep in your own home.
Try to avoid vandalism, since it's, you know, wrong and illegal and stuff.
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lol, some of u have had it so nice u think thats what you deserve and that it should follow you around everywhere
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yeah, and the part about molotov cocktails was a joke man. seriously, if he doesn't want to party he has the right to a good nights sleep. if you don't know how/ want to to help him just don't post in this thread.
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Dont do anything is my advice, if it bothers you so much maybe look for another place. college kids have a habit of being quick to judge and love playing pranks....
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On May 17 2009 01:28 ThePhan2m wrote:
If there is no rule against partys at your place, its really your problem, you moved there. You move to a place with that many people, you should expect this, if it is allowed.
And its not like its every night? Once or twice a week with earplugs. whats the problem?
Of corse theres no law banning parties but theres plenty of enforceable laws about noise pollution which is what this whole problem is. Its not his problem at all. Would you like me shouting/singing and vibrating you with bass at 4am the day before you have an interview/date/job/exam etc? We cant all be party animals all the time and it by no means makes you a party pooper. Infact the only ppl that think this is ok are probably complete wasters that only know how to party and never actually accomplish anything in life. Ive been in the same situation and the best thing to do is politely ask them to turn it down (dont threaten to call the police the first time most people are reasonable enough). If they dont get the message then go there and actually tell them you will call the police. If they dont stop you know that to do, its their own fault.
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Now I realize a lot of you are just kids, but are you really so ignorant that you've never heard of a thing called work? You know, that thing that adults have to wake up at 7-8 am to go to?
Partying until 7 am is so far beyond the line of "live with it" it's ridiculous.
Whether or not he likes to party has nothing to do with it: when you have a real job to wake up for and perform, partying until 3 am is not an option.
And presumably Navane doesn't have the money to live somewhere better. (Not to mention when you move you have to pay activation fees and deposits for your utilities, which just makes it worse if he's low on cash.)
So basically Navane has 2 options here:
1. let a bunch of assholes fuck up his life
2. kill the parties
I mean seriously, who HAS to party early in the morning? I know it sucks when you've gotta stop at midnight even though you really wanna keep going. But that's called having some goddamn respect for your fellow man.
(And if you wanna say Navane has no respect for them -- which is only natural, since they don't respect him at all -- well Navane can respect them by letting them party until he has to sleep. You think their noise won't be a pain in the ass if he's trying to do other stuff besides sleep? But when it starts killing his sleep, and he HAS to wake up early the next morning, then like I said, they don't HAVE to party that late so obviously they are the ones who have to stop.)
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Tell them to smoke more weed and drink less. They should be quieter and they still get to be fucked up.
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so bill, if there are apartments where people have been partying most nights for the last 10 years (ive stayed at such places... lack of research on my part), you expect everyone to stop because some student there wants them to?
I am not saying this is such a place but when a place has a well defined norm, it's ridiculous for someone to come in and think they get to say what does or does not fly.
When you move into apartments it's your job to find out what the place is like. To ask your landlord about noise(and a resident or 2 if you are smart). And then, if it is contrary to what your landlord says, then do something about it.
Is this the only place he can possibly live? I feel for him and I have dealt with such situations myself, but sometimes your only options are to man up, move, or be a total dick and possibly get your ass kicked.
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On May 17 2009 02:54 Aegraen wrote:
To those telling him to 'buy earplugs' or man up, and stop being a 'party pooper', its time for you guys to grow up and live in the real world. This guy pays to come home and get decent rest so he can work with some modicum of unfrizzledness (New word; thank me).
My advice: Tell them to turn the music down and stop being loud, if they don't oblige call the police. Next time they have a party, ask them again; if they don't oblige call cops. After two times, they should get the message, from then on just call the cops. If they are still loud after repeated cop calls then you can get creative, but thats much more riskier.
Sleep is the holy grail of existence. Without sleep, you suffer from increased health risks, mood alterings, weight loss/gain, etc. It's not something to mess with.
My other advice is whenever you can get out of your lease do so. Secondly, if its prior to 10 o' clock don't bother them, after about 10:15 though, thats when I would, especially for myself when I have to get up at 4:15AM, luckily my apartment building is mostly inhabited by working adults.
What's wrong with earplugs? To him it would almost seem like there is no partying going on outside of his room. Some causes are not worth fighting for, especially if there is an easy alternative.
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On May 16 2009 21:13 NotSupporting wrote:One should not have to use ear plus to sleep at night in ones own apartment.
Tell that to poor people living under the tracks in NYC, or college students around the world when they have an off day from partying while there is a party right next door. Let's make a parallel example; people shouldn't have to smell ethnic cooking in their apartment (assume that it smells bad), but when 3 of your neighbors are Indian or Chinese the smell of their fish/whatever drifts through the air vents to your house. Should they stop cooking?
Grow up and deal with it, it's your wants over the wants of a few dozen people at the party, although your request makes sense it's selfish. Ear plugs, pillow over the head, a glass of wine or a beer before you sleep, sleeping pills... All of these potentially help me sleep when there is a party upstairs or next door.
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I think 0200 is late enough. Partying until 0730 is ridiculous.
Just give them a standing warning that you will always call the cops after 0300 or something.
LOL @ people invoking the "right to party". :D
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On May 17 2009 03:30 fanatacist wrote:
Let's make a parallel example; people shouldn't have to smell ethnic cooking in their apartment (assume that it smells bad), but when 3 of your neighbors are Indian or Chinese the smell of their fish/whatever drifts through the air vents to your house. Should they stop cooking?
I used to have Indian neighbors and that sucked really bad.
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On May 17 2009 03:29 travis wrote:
so bill, if there are apartments where people have been partying most nights for the last 10 years (ive stayed at such places... lack of research on my part), you expect everyone to stop because some student there wants them to?
I am not saying this is such a place but when a place has a well defined norm, it's ridiculous for someone to come in and think they get to say what does or does not fly.
When you move into apartments it's your job to find out what the place is like. To ask your landlord about noise(and a resident or 2 if you are smart). And then, if it is contrary to what your landlord says, then do something about it.
Is this the only place he can possibly live? I feel for him and I have dealt with such situations myself, but sometimes your only options are to man up, move, or be a total dick and possibly get your ass kicked.
If moving was an option, then don't you think he would've done that by now?
If he can move then I 100% agree with it, even if it means moving someplace that's a little farther away from his school/work.
Asking the landlord about noise wouldn't help, 'cause they'd just lie and say there is no noise. Asking the existing residents about noise would've been a good idea, and if Navane failed to do that then yes that was a big mistake. But does that mean he should now have to pay for that easy-to-make mistake repeatedly for the next x months? And maybe he rented this place from online or via phone, in which case he would have to take the landlord's word for it.
As for the first part: if this really is an apartment complex where essentially everyone goes to the parties, then I agree with you and Navane should move out asap. Good reason for him to talk to the other residents about it.
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On May 17 2009 03:33 HeadBangaa wrote:
I think 0200 is late enough. Partying until 0730 is ridiculous.
Just give them a standing warning that you will always call the cops after 0300 or something.
LOL @ people invoking the "right to party". :D
this is a great idea if u aren't afraid of getting your ass kicked
and Bill I guess you are right the landlord prolly would lie heh
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On May 17 2009 03:30 Mooga wrote:
What's wrong with earplugs? To him it would almost seem like there is no partying going on outside of his room.
You would have to be deaf to get total silence with a couple of earplugs vs a loud party down the hall.
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People these days think they have a right to everything.
No, you don't have a right to stay up until 7:30 in the morning blasting music so nobody on a normal schedule within 300 yards can sleep. Didn't your parents teach you any respect?
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On May 17 2009 03:42 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 03:33 HeadBangaa wrote:
I think 0200 is late enough. Partying until 0730 is ridiculous.
Just give them a standing warning that you will always call the cops after 0300 or something.
LOL @ people invoking the "right to party". :D this is a great idea if u aren't afraid of getting your ass kicked and Bill I guess you are right the landlord prolly would lie heh
Ass kicked? If they try anything I have my Sig Sauer and AR-10 in my apartment so I don't think any 'ass-kicking' would be going on, especially when they have no decorum. Secondly, you are out in left field with your hypothetical scenarios. He clearly layed out what was going on.
The civil thing to do would be to ask them to stop after a reasonable time, if they say 'fuck you' and continue then call the cops. You have no right to infringe on the sleep of others.
Wasn't it in the torture thread people calling sleep deprivation torture.....oh the hypocrisy!
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Bill307
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On May 17 2009 03:42 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 03:33 HeadBangaa wrote:
I think 0200 is late enough. Partying until 0730 is ridiculous.
Just give them a standing warning that you will always call the cops after 0300 or something.
LOL @ people invoking the "right to party". :D this is a great idea if u aren't afraid of getting your ass kicked
Are you kidding or something?
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OP is a faggot go to hell pussy
I have a veteran responsibility to TL and this kind of comment is unacceptable imo. I needs to be said though.
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Sleep is for pussy faggots, obv.
*high five*
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This thread is a good way to find out who is a selfish douche and who isn't.
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On May 17 2009 04:01 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 03:42 travis wrote:On May 17 2009 03:33 HeadBangaa wrote:
I think 0200 is late enough. Partying until 0730 is ridiculous.
Just give them a standing warning that you will always call the cops after 0300 or something.
LOL @ people invoking the "right to party". :D this is a great idea if u aren't afraid of getting your ass kicked Are you kidding or something?
no
I suppose these are college party kids so the chances they are easily thrown into violence is less, but I have firsthand experience with ridiculous ass drunkies looking for any excuse whatsoever to beat the shit out of someone. and all of that experience has come from environments similar to the one described in the OP
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Lol@ not knowing he would get his ass kicked or at least harassed. 50% of the dudes who go to parties are there to fight. The rest are there to have a good time and get laid and/or get faded.
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Yeah the parties in the redneck part of town are like that. Santee ("Klantee") and Lakeside (white supremacist documentary filmed there a few years ago). Rowdy skinhead gang banger wannabes, yes. In that case, you call the cops anonymously.
At any rate, the OP's neighbors seem more civil and thus merit a more civil approach than anonymous reporting. It's the neighborly thing to do.
Regardless, one's right to have a good time does not trump the right to live in peace of others. How could you not understand this?
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Seriously, I would just find a new place to live. While the notion of a "right to party" as put forward by some people in this thread is totally and utterly idiotic, its just too much of a hassle to get them to stop (if its tons of different people in different apartments each night, would be different if it was just 1 or 2 neighboring apts.) and you won't get anywhere being a nice guy since college students who party every single night aren't exactly the sensitive type, in fact they're most likely a bunch of fuck-ups who should have some sense beaten into them.
While short-circuiting their apt. would be a nice solution and totally justified revenge, its only going to work like... once. Just find a new place even if its a pain.
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On May 17 2009 02:05 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2009 21:12 Navane wrote:
Thank you tiatara, this is exaclty how the situation is. On other parties, I also went to the parties nicely and asked them to tune it down. But they act like "we have a right to party". So I send the police to them. Worked pretty ok.
I am still a bit in a kill mood since my cellphone had no credit and this time the party stopped only at 7:15 am. But you are right, I should stick with the police.
Last night I went there at 1:30 and 5:00 nicely. At 6:30 I just shutdown their music station. But when I left they powered it back on. Thats why I needed stuff like cutting wires. Thinking back to it, I could trow them over the balcony. But when I am over there, I see they are just silly people trying hard to have fun.
Thanks again, I needed to vent, and you had the right answer. So, maybe apartments are different there than they are here, but let me get this straight... you went into their apartment, turned off their music, and walked out just fine? And you think these guys are unreasonable? That would have gotten you smacked in the face, at the very least, at most parties that I've been to. Anyway, there's no need to mess up their stuff when a call to the police will shut down a party pretty quickly.
I couldnt call the police cause my phone was out of money. I could walk right in and out because these people leave there doors open for the smokers and people who wanna stand outside and scream. And I don't look like I can be fucked with, so bunch of drunken lozers is not gonna touch me when I turn of their music station.
And Thanks Chef.
Calling the police only works so well in the way that each time there is a party, it is given by someone else. So there is no way they will learn from it.
I will go abroad in september, so I will not move untill then. And the place where I live is not a student campus or anything. Many people who live here, work and don't party. But yes, 5 - 10% of the people are those annoying partiers. The rent is cheap, that's why I live here. I am still getting my degree, I don't have a lot of money to spend. Also, Some people have decent parties till 02.00 or something. I can live with that.
I tried sleeping with earplugs. I can't sleep with stuff in my ear, lol.
The analogues with indian food and stuff; you can't compare shit randomly with each other. These are clearly spoiled lozers with too much time on their hand and too little respect for their surroundings. They think they are special, they are young and will make it. God I hate those people. Even when I shut down their music at 6:30 they were like "Oh, but can we do one more song?" They tought it a nice compromise; instead of turning the music of right now, just another song. At fkin 6:30. And when I left, they continued for another hour.
I think I will make that device that creates a short-circuit, in case the police doesn't shut them down. Just as a last 03:00 o clock resort.
Yes, I am exagerating those things about molotov cocktails, off course. And to the people who support my case, thanks, it really does feel better. The thing I hate the most is since I didn't sleep I am not over it yet. Most things I am over the next morning. But today there was no morning.
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On May 17 2009 03:17 Bill307 wrote:
Now I realize a lot of you are just kids, but are you really so ignorant that you've never heard of a thing called work? You know, that thing that adults have to wake up at 7-8 am to go to?
Partying until 7 am is so far beyond the line of "live with it" it's ridiculous.
Whether or not he likes to party has nothing to do with it: when you have a real job to wake up for and perform, partying until 3 am is not an option.
And presumably Navane doesn't have the money to live somewhere better. (Not to mention when you move you have to pay activation fees and deposits for your utilities, which just makes it worse if he's low on cash.)
So basically Navane has 2 options here:
1. let a bunch of assholes fuck up his life
2. kill the parties
I mean seriously, who HAS to party early in the morning? I know it sucks when you've gotta stop at midnight even though you really wanna keep going. But that's called having some goddamn respect for your fellow man.
(And if you wanna say Navane has no respect for them -- which is only natural, since they don't respect him at all -- well Navane can respect them by letting them party until he has to sleep. You think their noise won't be a pain in the ass if he's trying to do other stuff besides sleep? But when it starts killing his sleep, and he HAS to wake up early the next morning, then like I said, they don't HAVE to party that late so obviously they are the ones who have to stop.)
This.
God forbid the party-goers be unreasonably and unnecessarily forced to find a different partying spot or turn down the music. They should not be obligated to endure the pain of finding a different friend's house or bar or a club to party at instead. What's an entire night of no/restless sleep to a man if 30 others are deliriously happy for no apparently reason? The man is a puss, let him have earplugs. This should teach him to do extensive research next time he decides to move into an apartment that looks fine during the day. Those youthful little critters walking around during the day should've been more clear of a warning of restless nights than Robotics Facility of Reaver drop. That's what you get. You didn't see that Reaver drop coming, you lose the game. Guess you lose your life now. Ha.
Ahem, lack of sleep goes way beyond feeling slightly tired during the day. It fucks people up like nothing else. It starts getting more difficult to think clearly or get motivated, and all kinds of shit starts going down the drain fast. I'm not sure why so many people here don't seem to understand how awful this can be.
The party-goers haven't done anything to try and cater to OP's requests such as turning down the music; they clearly have no respect for OP's sleep. I wouldn't ask the OP to be too considerate towards them either. Still, instead of taking it into your own hands, you should call the cops (I'd imagine this would be reasonable in Netherland laws).
In U.S. law, this falls into nuisance since your right to enjoyment of property is being violated. This includes things like that bitch in neighbor's backyard barking all night long. (See what I did there?) I'm sure there's something similar in Netherland laws you can probably look up. I personally wouldn't over-do the police calling thing (only maybe during the weekdays?) but this does sound pretty serious. Good luck.
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On May 17 2009 04:11 CharlieMurphy wrote:
OP is a faggot go to hell pussy
I have a veteran responsibility to TL and this kind of comment is unacceptable imo. I needs to be said though.
If you feel that way why don't you explain why - try to refute some of the more articulate responses in this thread (such as Bill's post).
If you are incapable of explaining why then your post is based on irrational anger and it obviously does not "need to be said".
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Some level of partying is acceptable, but 7:15 am is crossing the line no matter where you draw it. When a party is going on too late and you know you're in the right, go over and ask them nicely to stop. Ask whose party it is and find out where that person is and talk to them personally. Explain that you have something really important going on the next morning ("work") and would they please do you this favor and turn down the volume. If it doesn't work the first time, come back a second time and explain that you will be forced to call the police. If that doesn't work, call the police. If you only do this at the parties that are excessive, things might get better.
If you ever do get people to actually stop/make less noise this way, consider leaving a thank-you note or something. If people think of you as a nice and reasonable person you'll get better results than if they think you're that jerk that always interrupts their parties. Also see if you can develop some level of acquaintance with the people reponsible --- if you know someone it's a lot easier to ask them a favor. (Even though not being obnoxious isn't really a "favor", they will perceive it as one.)
Bottom line: be persistent, be reasonable, people may start getting the message. And move out when you get the chance.
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can someone pm me the location of ear plugs, where the fuck do i buy them
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Navane I think a great idea would be for you to go door to door, with a survey, asking people what they think about the noise at night, and if they give an answer u want to hear, ask for their support in making it a quieter place.
It will be very easy to do if residents there are supporting each other in it.
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Wow @ the replies in this thread. You can really tell who has their priorities where, and who are immature and inconsiderate douchebags. I mean, given the general age of TL.net I expected there to be -some- ignorant people supporting the 'right to party' garbage, but I didn't expect this many. Talk about lack of respect for others... I sincerely hope many of you are forced into apartments and have kids blaring music all night long when you have to wake up for work at 7am the next day, then you'll know what it's like.
Edit - I live travis's suggestion above, peer pressure works way better than just the police by themselves. ^_^
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as somebody earlier said, warn twice (first kindly, second threatening to call cops), then call the cops. calling the cops on someone always should be your last resort cus they will hate you with a passion. If there are parties like this going on in many different appartements ur kinda fucked though if u call the cops on all of em cus u will be the most hated person in the entire building. And anybody who thinks neighbour hate has no effect on your life is a douche.. Neighbours can make your life a lot worse if they want to without you ever being able to even find out.
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solution: move
kids are going to party. I don't know why you would move into somewhere like that not expecting tons of parties. As for the right to party...YOU GOTTA FIGHT FOR YO RIGHT TO PARRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTAY!
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God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up.
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On May 17 2009 03:44 Bill307 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 03:30 Mooga wrote:
What's wrong with earplugs? To him it would almost seem like there is no partying going on outside of his room. You would have to be deaf to get total silence with a couple of earplugs vs a loud party down the hall.
Oh, I thought the sound would be relatively dampened already considering that the parties aren't in his apartment. I myself am a light-sleeper so even small noises bother me. That became problematic when I lived with a roommate who snored loudly, and additionally our beds were only about 4 feet away from each other. Fortunately earplugs could dampen the sound enough to where I either couldn't hear the snoring, or I could barely hear it which allowed me to go to sleep easily.
So I recommend that you try earplugs first. As a frequency earplug user, I don't think that earplugs are an inconvenience. The ones I have are really comfortable and they tend to fall out when I fall asleep because the cord connecting them and because I roll over in my bed while I'm sleeping; which is a good thing because it allows me to hear my alarm clock in the morning. The kind of look like this
You can buy them at most local convenience stores for $2. I like sleeping with them on, so I would definitely choose to use them over having to deal with the cops or go around polling residents. In my opinion, it would be less of a headache.
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On May 17 2009 06:55 baal wrote:
God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up.
Are you 14 years old? Sure sounds like it. He doesn't live in a college dorm either.
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Ugh... I hate people like you.
Most likely because I'm a college student.
I guess I'm naturally able to fall asleep no problem with loud noise then.
I party all the time late at night.
Personally, I don't think cops should be called until like 1:30 at night at the earliest, and only in extreme cases. You're in a friggin' apartment complex you gotta compromise... you decided to live in a complex where there are a shitton of people living next to you.
And yes I know that's very biased from my side and bordering on nonsensical, I just hate it when people get anal about the littlest of noise. I mean, typically if you have loud music in an apartment, it gets significantly muffled and quieter to other apartments as there are walls. Usually the music you hear is less than half the volume you'd have your TV on.
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On May 17 2009 06:55 baal wrote:
God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up.
The mayority of your posts are like this, why dont you contribute something instead of always answering like a jerk? you are like what 24? 25? and cant be mature? Jesus christ... thats why almost everyone ignores you grow up baal seriously.
And i would advise to either ask them polite 2 or 3 times max, if they continue either call the cops or just try to find a way to make a deal with them... or try to sleep outside your place when they party or something.. you are in quite a spot here 
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On May 16 2009 20:42 Bash wrote:Show nested quote +2) I don't want to offend legal boundaries too much in the sence of me going to jail or smt (so I won't throw a molotov cocktail into the crowd unless someone comes up with a way that I cant be identified later) Wow, you're both a bitter hermit and a sociopath. Congratulations on the blazing success that is your life.
I'm sorry, but, honestly.. so you're saying that, because you think differently, you should criticize him?
;P
edit: I find it funny that all the 'party people' supposedly are going to defend their party persona in this thread. Everyone defending their youth are hypocrites... obviously, if you were such party people, you'd be out having a party, wouldn't you?
As for me, I am a party maker and party destroyer. To destroy one, honestly, just go in there and be as loud as them and as annoying as them, JUST like them. They might just run you out or, they might think you're one of them. Either or, you can just go in there and cut the wires to their jams with little scissors and take some beers or freeload or something. Be exactly like them, show them how they're acting. You'll be mocking them, surely
;] just from experience...you could throw your own party or crash theirs with a bunch of your friends, because, STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!!!
=D in all honesty though, think of something else to do than kill them...parties are harmless ;3
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 17 2009 07:31 FabledIntegral wrote:
Ugh... I hate people like you.
Most likely because I'm a college student.
I guess I'm naturally able to fall asleep no problem with loud noise then.
I party all the time late at night.
Personally, I don't think cops should be called until like 1:30 at night at the earliest, and only in extreme cases. You're in a friggin' apartment complex you gotta compromise... you decided to live in a complex where there are a shitton of people living next to you.
And yes I know that's very biased from my side and bordering on nonsensical, I just hate it when people get anal about the littlest of noise. I mean, typically if you have loud music in an apartment, it gets significantly muffled and quieter to other apartments as there are walls. Usually the music you hear is less than half the volume you'd have your TV on.
Cool wanna come to the wkd party im having nextdoor to you the night before ur finals?
PARRRTAAY!
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On May 17 2009 06:55 baal wrote:
God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up.
What would you say if he was in a complex full of students because he was a student, and he couldn't sleep and thus struggled to do well in classes? Suck it up?
It would be cool if everyone who is opposed to the OP could list their age, level and type of education, and current occupation. It would be pretty interesting to see the demographic.
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On May 17 2009 07:31 FabledIntegral wrote:
Ugh... I hate people like you.
Most likely because I'm a college student.
I guess I'm naturally able to fall asleep no problem with loud noise then.
I party all the time late at night.
Personally, I don't think cops should be called until like 1:30 at night at the earliest, and only in extreme cases. You're in a friggin' apartment complex you gotta compromise... you decided to live in a complex where there are a shitton of people living next to you.
And yes I know that's very biased from my side and bordering on nonsensical, I just hate it when people get anal about the littlest of noise. I mean, typically if you have loud music in an apartment, it gets significantly muffled and quieter to other apartments as there are walls. Usually the music you hear is less than half the volume you'd have your TV on.
He said earlier in the thread he doesn't mind unless it goes later than 2 am.
"people like you"?
People who have jobs?
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United States42685 Posts
In real life you can't just switch to another house. People sign contracts and get established.
In real life you can't just man it up.
In real life people have jobs and routines and need sleep.
A lot of tl members obviously have yet to realise these facts.
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I don't know about the NL regulations, but here there are limits on the noise you can inflict on others based on the time of the day.
After 10pm it's 45dB max. So if you live in a "quiet area" and music comes and goes, you will reach that easily. Just call the cops, if the story repeats for some time you can file a noise complaint and you will have people come and measure the noise at your sleeping place (there's regulations for this too of course, noise has to be measured at 1 mt from the windows, etc, etc).
This can get them into a lot of trouble (like having to cash in money for you, or for ways to keep the noise down). That's how it works here. If they are immature kids, as soon as they receive some visits from the police, or a note saying they have to pay money, I'm sure they will stop fucking with your sleep.
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On May 17 2009 07:57 Freyr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 06:55 baal wrote:
God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up. Wait...so where did he say he lived in a complex full of students? You should at least read the thread if you intend to deliver such a caustic reply. What would you say if he was in a complex full of students because he was a student, and he couldn't sleep and thus struggled to do well in classes? Suck it up? It would be cool if everyone who is opposed to the OP could list their age, level and type of education, and current occupation. It would be pretty interesting to see the demographic.
I think most of the posters are exaggerating how much they actually party, for the sake of e-cred. For some people it's very important to their self-esteem that people think they go to a lot of parties. See MarklarMarklar's blogs.
I would venture to guess for most TLers, a party is defined as 6 or 7 people drinking beers on the couch or deck. Which is fine, but it's not the same noise you get from a house of people falling over each other, accidentally breaking things, and generally trying talk over each other getting louder and louder which is most likely what this guy is experiencing. Earbuds aren't really going to fix that. I own aircraft grade noise cancellers that people use who work near aircraft to protect their hearing, and those don't kill the noise of a really loud party (not to mention the pressure they put on the skull hurts after awhile).
I think most of the people defending their 'hardcore' partying don't know what a real party is, and how disruptive and annoying it is.
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Well, it's a student complex that Navone is living in. He is because it's probably cheaper (as it usually is) which is ok, but which simply comes with bad parts like this one. And i'm sure Navane knew what to expect when moving there (i'm sure he passed through college).
Now i understand that he has to work and sleep, and moving isn't easy or doable but if you think you can stop any partying in a student apartment complex then i'm sorry for you, you're forgetting about your college times, just remember about it.
Call police to do what? Unless there are many people in your situation i doubt they'll do anything, not like they even have anything to do.
You guys do need to remember your youth and college times and you'll see why solutions like those will just not work.
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I have ear plugs since I'm a drummer. It's very bad to your ears to drum for a long time without them.
Like everybody else already said, using them would easily protect you from any party noise.
Another idea: Call in the cops. People never do that in Brazil, but I see it being done all the time in american movies so you could give that a try.
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You could try to approach them, but chances are you'll act like you're better than them and then they won't listen.
You're probably just going to have to file a complaint. Chances are there are other people who are annoyed by it if it really is that loud.
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Navane said before its not a student complex only 5-10% are students. Also I remember my time at college. I remember I had an amazing time going out partying, having fun drinking in halls, all the usual stuff, whilst still being quiet and respectful late at night and especially keeping quiet if anyone politely asked me to keep the noise down. Or better yet just going down london town to continue the party  and I still had just as great a time! surely im not alone?
A few parties every so often is fine but when we're talking about consistent 7am parties that don't keep quiet even after you politely ask them to, i think thats bang out of order. Do you realise it takes at least a few days to sort out a fucked up sleeping pattern and theres no way you can enjoy your day or even be productive if you're tired ALL the time. I cant believe theres so many ppl that think its ok. I would actually feel embarrassed trying to argue that these people are in the right. Noones saying people shouldnt party, this is about being reasonable and respecting people you live with. The guy went there politely at 1:30 AND 5:00 am and they still didnt stop. Please tell me you guys wouldnt do the same?
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i just you file a serious complaint since you cant just "move out" like some people are suggesting
Also you can try just stealing all their booze since they're drunk :D and cut their music.
And use what i saw already suggested, that stuff that stinks places up
no booze, no music, shit smells > no party
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There is no solution to this problem.
You live in a loud apartment complex, and it will be loud as long as there are a bunch of college kids living there. If it's a different party every night, there's no stopping it.
You can try cutting speaker cables, being dick, etc... but you'll probably just end up as that crazy asshole who everyone hates. And they'll still party (maybe even making that extra effort to bother you!).
You picked a shitty place to live, dude. Shoulda done your research better.
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It seems like the OP is asking for advice in how to effectively commit acts of vandalism and/or assault? =/
Just call the police. Please don't take it into your own hands.
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silence is a rare commodity these days, especially in the city. i have no advice. but, i used to live in appartments myself, and i hated the noise. so so much. im not even talking about parties, just neighbors who would have their stereo on so loud, most of the day, you could feel it through like any object in your appartment.
just, if its any consolation to you- i live in a house now, and i can usually count on friday or saturday nights, i wont be sleeping untill like 3AM because my neighbors will usually stand out in their driveway, or back yard, drink, and litteraly just yell and laugh as loud as they can. bascially, saying, "look everyone, im partying and having a good time and im cool".
i find it very immature and disrespectful to others that most people find it totally fine to make as much noise as they want, at any time. though- those who desire peace and quiet, are the assholes. ironically, i also play in a punk band, and we practice at least 1X and sometimes 2X a week. we always stop playing before 8pm and only play for 2hours at a time. why? id like to think that if people are bothered by it they will know at least it wont go on for a long time, and it will be over at a certain time. the people who just yell for no reason, behind my house, do it for like 8 hours. its, funny sometimes, but when you want to sleep, it pisses you off.
i agree with the guy who says their is no solution. part of living in a city with people will always involve this- even if you live in your own house. im sorry about your situation man.
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United States996 Posts
i always wondered what kind of person would call the cops on my parties
move out, exercise foresight next time
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I don't really understand why this issue is so polarizing.
I enjoy to party, get fucked up, listen to loud music, flirt with hot bitches, etc
but i also understand how some people need to fucking sleep and how fucking inconsiderate and rude it is to completely disregard them
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On May 17 2009 07:34 PaeZ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 06:55 baal wrote:
God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up. The mayority of your posts are like this, why dont you contribute something instead of always answering like a jerk? you are like what 24? 25? and cant be mature? Jesus christ... thats why almost everyone ignores you grow up baal seriously. And i would advise to either ask them polite 2 or 3 times max, if they continue either call the cops or just try to find a way to make a deal with them... or try to sleep outside your place when they party or something.. you are in quite a spot here
stop giving me lecures about my age and maturity lol, the OP is the retard trying to do illegal things and basically be a scumbag to stop the partying from ALL the fucking complex.
Here is a life hint, when you have 50 problem neighbors, you might be the problem neighbor
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On May 17 2009 07:57 Freyr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 06:55 baal wrote:
God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up. What would you say if he was in a complex full of students because he was a student, and he couldn't sleep and thus struggled to do well in classes? Suck it up? It would be cool if everyone who is opposed to the OP could list their age, level and type of education, and current occupation. It would be pretty interesting to see the demographic.
If all the complex parties then yes suck it up, you are living with a bunch of college party goers students what do you fucking expect? that is life.
Sometimes your room mate will snore, sometimes your boss will be a bitch, co-worker wont wear deodorant etc, you dont like it... leave/quit or find a practical solution for yourself (as one said, ear plugs), instead of violently imposing your intolerant views on everybody.
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i say go with the cocktail
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On May 17 2009 09:58 baal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 07:57 Freyr wrote:On May 17 2009 06:55 baal wrote:
God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up. What would you say if he was in a complex full of students because he was a student, and he couldn't sleep and thus struggled to do well in classes? Suck it up? It would be cool if everyone who is opposed to the OP could list their age, level and type of education, and current occupation. It would be pretty interesting to see the demographic. If all the complex parties then yes suck it up, you are living with a bunch of college party goers students what do you fucking expect? that is life. Sometimes your room mate will snore, sometimes your boss will be a bitch, co-worker wont wear deodorant etc, you dont like it... leave/quit or find a practical solution for yourself (as one said, ear plugs), instead of violently imposing your intolerant views on everybody.
Yes, wanting to sleep is an intolerant view....The average maturity level of this generation is staggeringly low.
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On May 17 2009 07:31 FabledIntegral wrote:
Ugh... I hate people like you.
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Personally, I don't think cops should be called until like 1:30 at night at the earliest, and only in extreme cases.
Read the thread genius, the OP actually said that until 2am was fine with him but that the last party was going on until 7:15am.
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If its against the law where you live, then call the cops, if its not, then you have to deal with it.
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call the cops for noise violations
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On May 17 2009 10:27 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 09:58 baal wrote:On May 17 2009 07:57 Freyr wrote:On May 17 2009 06:55 baal wrote:
God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up. What would you say if he was in a complex full of students because he was a student, and he couldn't sleep and thus struggled to do well in classes? Suck it up? It would be cool if everyone who is opposed to the OP could list their age, level and type of education, and current occupation. It would be pretty interesting to see the demographic. If all the complex parties then yes suck it up, you are living with a bunch of college party goers students what do you fucking expect? that is life. Sometimes your room mate will snore, sometimes your boss will be a bitch, co-worker wont wear deodorant etc, you dont like it... leave/quit or find a practical solution for yourself (as one said, ear plugs), instead of violently imposing your intolerant views on everybody. Yes, wanting to sleep is an intolerant view....The average maturity level of this generation is staggeringly low.
yeah the maturity of our generation is sooo low....
This comes from the retard who endorses torture (water boarding) on the other thread ROFL, nice credibility there buddy.
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On May 17 2009 09:54 baal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 07:34 PaeZ wrote:On May 17 2009 06:55 baal wrote:
God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up. The mayority of your posts are like this, why dont you contribute something instead of always answering like a jerk? you are like what 24? 25? and cant be mature? Jesus christ... thats why almost everyone ignores you grow up baal seriously. And i would advise to either ask them polite 2 or 3 times max, if they continue either call the cops or just try to find a way to make a deal with them... or try to sleep outside your place when they party or something.. you are in quite a spot here stop giving me lecures about my age and maturity lol, the OP is the retard trying to do illegal things and basically be a scumbag to stop the partying from ALL the fucking complex. Here is a life hint, when you have 50 problem neighbors, you might be the problem neighbor
I thought it was pretty well established that many people say/do crazy things when they're sleep deprived. That's why, you may have noticed, most of the contributors to the thread have suggested reasonable approaches such as talking to partiers followed by a police call when it gets ridiculous.
People should be respectful neighbors. This obviously goes both ways - one should try to be tolerant of reasonable noise (from occasional parties or whatever), and conversely partiers should be aware that if their antics are too frequent they'll be bothering (maybe hurting) other people. It sounds as though the OP has neighbors who party all the time and make no attempt to moderate noise level etc. This is not acceptable. Given the circumstances, if the OP CAN do something about the situation he absolutely should. Obviously it may not be practical to do so, and he may just have to do his best to get out.
If it were appropriate to take OP's comments regarding illegal activity seriously then yes, anger might be an appropriate response, but I'm guessing you'd have been all angry if he'd been exclusively interested in reasonable approaches. Rampant (and frequent) partying with no regard for people with real lives is just not ok.
Also, your posts in this thread have been pretty aggressive with almost no provocation, why is that? (well mostly the first one, as provocation shortly followed - but it was fairly warranted)
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On May 17 2009 10:38 baal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 10:27 Aegraen wrote:On May 17 2009 09:58 baal wrote:On May 17 2009 07:57 Freyr wrote:On May 17 2009 06:55 baal wrote:
God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up. What would you say if he was in a complex full of students because he was a student, and he couldn't sleep and thus struggled to do well in classes? Suck it up? It would be cool if everyone who is opposed to the OP could list their age, level and type of education, and current occupation. It would be pretty interesting to see the demographic. If all the complex parties then yes suck it up, you are living with a bunch of college party goers students what do you fucking expect? that is life. Sometimes your room mate will snore, sometimes your boss will be a bitch, co-worker wont wear deodorant etc, you dont like it... leave/quit or find a practical solution for yourself (as one said, ear plugs), instead of violently imposing your intolerant views on everybody. Yes, wanting to sleep is an intolerant view....The average maturity level of this generation is staggeringly low. yeah the maturity of our generation is sooo low.... This comes from the retard who endorses torture (water boarding) on the other thread ROFL, nice credibility there buddy.
o.o Were you trying to prove his point? I mean, I thought his post was pretty ridiculous too, but you basically just topped him.
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it comes from frustration about stupidity.
How can somebody fail so hard at picking a place to live, and then when he faces the fruits of his failure instead of accepting his stupid mistake and take appropriate measures (suck it up and wear ear plugs or move out duh) he chooses to be an asshole and start cutting wires (what in the fuck, if you do that to me id fucking beat the shit out of you) and do retarded shit.
How could it be more clear, you moved in a place where people party all the time, you dont like it, move fuck out, and this time make sure the neighborhood is a quiet one.
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Did you even notice that people arnt telling him to cut wires and throw molotov cocktails into the party? We are telling him he is within his rights to do something about it albeit less drastic. And that by no means should he HAVE to put up with it. Also how can you tell if people party all the time in your neighbourhood if theres no party on when you view it, which is especically likely since viewing is done during the day? Do you stake-out potential accomodation for a week doing recon? and ask all 50 ppl in your appartment if they are party animals before you move in? Its hardly a case of him failing hard to choose a place to live. And if he finds out about this after he moved in he's still signed a contract its not so easy to just "move the fuck out".
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OP needs more details, everybody is going "what if", "how can you", "Do you?", "I dun git it", "let's force my life experiences into the situation of this dude here on TL, because I know it's exactly the same, I mean, how can it be possibly different, no wai!", "Fuck you!", "lol I've been to so many partay, lol I've gone through this so many times, I know how it is for every person every single fucking time because I've been through it therefore I know it all"
Christ, none of you are actually there, how can any of you make such impassioned posts over such ambiguity and lack of information?? How do you know if the music is as loud as a fucking jet? Maybe the OP is a douche who can't even sleep when the wind is blowing? What would you consider as too-loud wind? How do you know if the OP isn't actually some fucked-up social outcast? How do you know anything? This is where you have to apply your own experiences and use assumptions, but know that they are only your experiences, your assumptions, your life, and not everybody elses. Again, this comes back to the OP's responsibility; right now all anybody is hearing are your sole viewpoints and some none-too detailed details.
This thread helps re-affirm the ease with which flamewars can be started on teh internets.
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On May 17 2009 10:27 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 09:58 baal wrote:On May 17 2009 07:57 Freyr wrote:On May 17 2009 06:55 baal wrote:
God what a fucking cunt, you live in an apartment complex full of college students when the vast majority parties all the time and you want to spoil it for everyone just cuz you decided to live there?
Move out dumbass, cant afford another place, suck it up. What would you say if he was in a complex full of students because he was a student, and he couldn't sleep and thus struggled to do well in classes? Suck it up? It would be cool if everyone who is opposed to the OP could list their age, level and type of education, and current occupation. It would be pretty interesting to see the demographic. If all the complex parties then yes suck it up, you are living with a bunch of college party goers students what do you fucking expect? that is life. Sometimes your room mate will snore, sometimes your boss will be a bitch, co-worker wont wear deodorant etc, you dont like it... leave/quit or find a practical solution for yourself (as one said, ear plugs), instead of violently imposing your intolerant views on everybody. Yes, wanting to sleep is an intolerant view....The average maturity level of this generation is staggeringly low.
says the guy who argues that some human beings like taliban have NO rights whatsoever.... yey, lets skin these partiers and shit in their mouths like we can with terrorists!
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i was in this situation before. i lived in a inner city apartment and the adjacent building is like a youth hostel of some sort which recently opened up their rooftop so teens can go there and drink themselves stupid.
i asked politely 3 times to get them to quieten it down but the management just ignored me.
So i phoned the melbourne council, got them to close the rooftop and lose money in the process lol.
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I dont get why some of you are telling him its his fault for picking a place like that to live, its not like hes the only one there not partying, he said that 5-10% of the people in the complex are making trouble, should he and the rest of the people get their sleep fucked up by a vast minority ? And you cant claim that blasting fucking music until 7 in the morning is their right and he can suck it up, wtf.
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try earplugs. if they dont work, try talking to host to get them to quiet down. if that doesnt work, file a noise complaint. if that doesnt work, move out.
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On May 17 2009 19:20 besiger wrote:
I dont get why some of you are telling him its his fault for picking a place like that to live, its not like hes the only one there not partying, he said that 5-10% of the people in the complex are making trouble, should he and the rest of the people get their sleep fucked up by a vast minority ? And you cant claim that blasting fucking music until 7 in the morning is their right and he can suck it up, wtf.
Yeh, totally agree with this. It's ridiculous that anyone is blaming him for choosing there to live and acting like having a party until early morning is some right. I swear some of you must have been raised badly.
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On May 17 2009 07:42 blapsd wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 17 2009 07:31 FabledIntegral wrote:
Ugh... I hate people like you.
Most likely because I'm a college student.
I guess I'm naturally able to fall asleep no problem with loud noise then.
I party all the time late at night.
Personally, I don't think cops should be called until like 1:30 at night at the earliest, and only in extreme cases. You're in a friggin' apartment complex you gotta compromise... you decided to live in a complex where there are a shitton of people living next to you.
And yes I know that's very biased from my side and bordering on nonsensical, I just hate it when people get anal about the littlest of noise. I mean, typically if you have loud music in an apartment, it gets significantly muffled and quieter to other apartments as there are walls. Usually the music you hear is less than half the volume you'd have your TV on. Cool wanna come to the wkd party im having nextdoor to you the night before ur finals? PARRRTAAY!
I go to the study rooms. I understand others want to party. Thus, I am practical. I study better in study rooms anyways, but it's beyond the point that they are available.
Concerning sleeping, I pull all nighters before all my finals and don't sleep anyways, so it isn't a personal issue. Although I didn't realize these parties were all nighters into 7 AM, I assumed they were done around 2-3 AM. Parties I go to rarely go past 3:30 AM.
And everyone has finals at the same time, and people rarely party hard before finals, so I'm not sure where that's the issue.
On May 17 2009 08:16 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 07:31 FabledIntegral wrote:
Ugh... I hate people like you.
Most likely because I'm a college student.
I guess I'm naturally able to fall asleep no problem with loud noise then.
I party all the time late at night.
Personally, I don't think cops should be called until like 1:30 at night at the earliest, and only in extreme cases. You're in a friggin' apartment complex you gotta compromise... you decided to live in a complex where there are a shitton of people living next to you.
And yes I know that's very biased from my side and bordering on nonsensical, I just hate it when people get anal about the littlest of noise. I mean, typically if you have loud music in an apartment, it gets significantly muffled and quieter to other apartments as there are walls. Usually the music you hear is less than half the volume you'd have your TV on. He said earlier in the thread he doesn't mind unless it goes later than 2 am. "people like you"? People who have jobs?
I have a job. At times I have to get up as early as 6:00 AM.
Concerning not going later than 2 AM, I must have missed it. I would get annoyed past 2:00 AM and call the cops prob around 3:00 AM, complete misunderstanding on my part.
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So last night there was another party (from a different appartment) but the sound was ok, I fell asleep. But at 3:30 am some douche started throwing garbage bags (which people put outside there house for the garbage man which comes by each appartment) off the building. A garbage bag from 12 high can kill a person easily. The place he threw them is where people put ther bicycle and enter the building. And at that time there were people coming home from clubbing (yay, decent people) who were almost hit, if I intepreted their screams and yells right. Party!
So this morning I came up with the solution for people who throw things off the building. I slap them in their head until they lie quietly on the floor, they won't resist much because they are drunk. Then I will take a knife and carve "I will not throw shit off the building" into their arms and forehead. Then I will throw them off the building. This should set an example. Yes, I won't actually do this.
I called the cops, it took them an hour to kill the party. The music wasn't as obnoxious loud as last time, but the combination of last time, with this douche throwing shit (which makes a lot of noise too) and the awfuly bad taste in music prevented me to sleep and made me call the cops. Maybe I killed the party for the wrong reasons but I can handle only so much, after not having slept properly for 44 hours.
Travis, your solution sounds good. But when I gathered the people, how should we proceed? Right now every now and then people come out of their appartment and look down at the garbage dump which used to be our entrance with shaken heads. So there is definatly support for my case.
Baal, where I live, we have laws against noise at night. But we also have a very tolerant police. I have the law on my side. Doesn't matter wether there is a "party history".
Sometimes the party people are nice. A month ago, there was a party at my etage. I came home at 1:30 am from a concert. I sat down, played some starcraft. Wanted to sleep at 2:30. Party was still going on. So I walked over there, asked a random dude; who is giving this party? He points at some punk (litterally punk, with the hair and the tatoes and shit, but luckily I have long hair and somewhat of a beard, so I could handle his punkiness with my metalness). I said to the punk, while he was carressed by two groupies: "Dude, it's late, can you tune down the music?" He snapped his fingers, one of his under-punks came over and he told him: "Fix this for me" So we went in, the under-punk asks me, what time is it? I said: 2:30, he replied: yeah, it's about time. And he tunes down the music. Respect.
About the sound level last night (the party till 7:15), I could feel the bass. When I can feel bass, the music is fkin loud.
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Can't believe I read every single post in this thread.
Was actually very interesting to read all the replies.
Seems like a lot of people are missing the part that the party is going all the way till 7 in the morning. That is just off...
Also, OP mentioned only 5-10% of the people in the building are party-goers. Not even close to what a "long time history party building" should be.
I bought my own condo (new built) and will be moving in September. God forbid I would ever be in this type of situation. I would really rip people's face off.
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The math doesnt make sense though, you say its a different flat every night, there's 50 flats in the building and only 5-10% are disturbing you?
Thats 2-5 nights and if they occur all the week (and not just on the weekends) its should take you at most a week to have called the cops on them all, which is weird since you said this has been going on for a month?
Edit: How is the house built? is it 10 stories high or like 2 stories high and REALLY wide/deep?
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move to Germany. Over here, you can call the police after 22:00 if there's too much noise going on.
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well whatever you do, please choose wisely and video tape!
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Plant a psi emitter in their apartments.
Pros:
-worked on Antiga Prime and Tarsonis
-fun to daydream about
Cons
-lots of collateral damage
-if you survive, subsequent neighbors will still be noisy douches
+ Show Spoiler +skip to 0:50. <3 Mikeymoo
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I support the OP in his quest for peace and quiet during the night.
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Some times I wish I knew less about about TLers and just stuck to SC discussion. Some of the people in this thread really just disgust me.
We have a right to party till 7:00am+ ever day? Seriously? Some kids these days, utter trash. Some of the arguments are down right retarded as well. Comparing the partying to the smell of ethnic food? Last I checked food is a tad more important than partying all the damn time.
Jeez, every day another blow to my faith in humanity.
Navane, good luck man. Sounds like war to me, I hope you're prepared.
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haha @ last post from nevane.
I must say that those arent party-goers, more like hoolingans xD. I agree you have all the right to call the cops and shut down that.
As for the rest of the parties, i dont think there's much you can do if every day is a different host, other than move out .
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On May 18 2009 02:25 Phyre wrote:
Some times I wish I knew less about about TLers and just stuck to SC discussion. Some of the people in this thread really just disgust me.
We have a right to party till 7:00am+ ever day? Seriously? Some kids these days, utter trash. Some of the arguments are down right retarded as well. Comparing the partying to the smell of ethnic food? Last I checked food is a tad more important than partying all the damn time.
Jeez, every day another blow to my faith in humanity.
Navane, good luck man. Sounds like war to me, I hope you're prepared.
It's a choice to cook food that annoys your neighbors; you don't HAVE to cook that smelly shit every day, it's not your religion or some shit. It's also a choice to party late at night; you don't HAVE to party beyond 2 am, but there is alcohol and weed and music so you want to. The smell lasts just as long as a party would. Fuck off.
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On May 17 2009 02:17 Gray[FH wrote:
clog their toilet then file a noise complaint
Best advice laid down after re-reading the thread!
CLOG TOILET FTW.
Edit; Ya for real in my city cops come to parties ALL the time by like 1am at the latest. Shit gets broken up real fast if it's too loud. The hardcore party people just go from party to party which are usually on different streets/blocks (talking about house parties near campus). Parties further away from campus get broken up even faster.
People here don't seem to have a problem calling the cops if younger people are pissing them off.
Oh also, if you want to be vindictive, getting shit stolen from your party is a great way to make a host not want to have more parties. Stolen shit + toilet clog is just a pain in the ass. If that happens like 3 parties in a row guy will throw in the towel. Be ninja
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Belgium6771 Posts
How about umm
you party with them and forget your troubles?
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On May 18 2009 05:36 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2009 02:25 Phyre wrote:
Some times I wish I knew less about about TLers and just stuck to SC discussion. Some of the people in this thread really just disgust me.
We have a right to party till 7:00am+ ever day? Seriously? Some kids these days, utter trash. Some of the arguments are down right retarded as well. Comparing the partying to the smell of ethnic food? Last I checked food is a tad more important than partying all the damn time.
Jeez, every day another blow to my faith in humanity.
Navane, good luck man. Sounds like war to me, I hope you're prepared. It's a choice to cook food that annoys your neighbors; you don't HAVE to cook that smelly shit every day, it's not your religion or some shit. It's also a choice to party late at night; you don't HAVE to party beyond 2 am, but there is alcohol and weed and music so you want to. The smell lasts just as long as a party would. Fuck off.
The difference is pretty obvious, why are you so angry? Calm down. In cases of "smelly" food most people probably aren't aware that it's so noticeable. People tell me shin ramen and some thai sauces I use have a reaaally strong smell, but I hardly notice it at all. Also, situations where the smell is so strong that it really permeates the building are fairly rare.
On the other hand, the fact that loud frequent parties are going to be disturbing is obvious to anyone, regardless of their status as a "partier", so willingly neglecting to moderate such habits is actively disrespectful and potentially harmful to neighbors.
Functionally, the bottom line is that while you may not be able to do anything about your neighbor's cooking, you just might be able to do something about your neighbor's partying (if it gets out of hand). If something screws with your sleep (/life) you fix it.
A lot of these posts with the "damn kids and their music" theme are pretty silly, but then the "damn kids" come back and make themselves look twice as ridiculous - do you not see this?
Also - is it true that you've been banned 6 times?
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Assuming all apartment in the building are samish, can't you change rooms with the guy/girl top right in the building? Maybe he/she won't mind the parties and you'll be statistically furthest removed from them. I dunno but contract wise etc it shoudln't be hard to work out.
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Navane are all the apartments owned by 1 landlord? I would imagine so.
In that case if you got enough support, get signatures or something from everyone, and give it to the landlord with a list of who the offenders are. Make it say that the signers are going to start moving out if the noise isn't dealt with. It doesn't matter if it is true or not.
there may be better ideas than this, if someone can come up with one. Give specific examples of their behavior. I would include the dangerous throwing of shit off the roof.
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Bill307
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On May 18 2009 05:36 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2009 02:25 Phyre wrote:
Some times I wish I knew less about about TLers and just stuck to SC discussion. Some of the people in this thread really just disgust me.
We have a right to party till 7:00am+ ever day? Seriously? Some kids these days, utter trash. Some of the arguments are down right retarded as well. Comparing the partying to the smell of ethnic food? Last I checked food is a tad more important than partying all the damn time.
Jeez, every day another blow to my faith in humanity.
Navane, good luck man. Sounds like war to me, I hope you're prepared. It's a choice to cook food that annoys your neighbors; you don't HAVE to cook that smelly shit every day, it's not your religion or some shit. It's also a choice to party late at night; you don't HAVE to party beyond 2 am, but there is alcohol and weed and music so you want to. The smell lasts just as long as a party would. Fuck off.
Funny you should compare partying to offensive smells.
That's why smoking is banned in so many residences / buildings: because the smell is awful and it travels everywhere. (Blaming second-hand smoke for cancer is mainly a convenient way for the non-smoking population to get rid of the smell.) Not unlike the awful noise of a late-night party.
In addition, our campus library explicity states that foods with strong odours are banned. So if you ask me, society is slowly starting to recognize that foods with particularly strong odours can be offensive, especially as more and more people bring their cooking from different cultures.
Last weekend I came back to discover our house REEKING of dead fish. It was disgusting. So I talked to my housemates about it, and found out one of them was cooking with some dried shrimp/fish thing that was causing the smell. Solution: he just opens the kitchen window whenever he cooks with it from now on, and everyone is happy.
Unfortunately, you can't just open a window to eliminate your party's loud noise. (Same goes for smoking.) So I guess all those party-goers will just have to live with semi-normal sleeping hours like the rest of the population.
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I won't attempt to address the whole issue as so many different views have been shared by so many people I just thought I would add my 2 cents.
First of all, OP did fuck up when he moved in. What if 5-10% of the people do parties, if their loud shit can be heard by EVERYBODY then you don't need to do extensive research about it, because every single neighbour will know and probably tell you about it if you ask around before moving in. It is even better that less people throw the parties because you are less likely to randomly ask one of them who may or may not mention it (I am fairly sure he would cuz he wouldn't want someone who hates to party to move in either for the exact issues OP has).
Secondly, it is unclear if the other neighbours who want to sleep attempted to do something about it? Have they called the police as well? Or maybe you *are* a bit too intolerant? I wouldn't believe that everyone else that is bothered by the problem as much as you is a pussy and you alone dare to step up to it?
Don't take this the wrong way but so far it somewhat comes off as you are closer to the sociopat extremity than to the holy warrior of noise free enviroment one...
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
It's actually like what Travis was saying earlier: if someone's cooking happens to smell like ass to the rest of the city, then they can't just move-in, start cooking, and expect everyone else to tolerate it.
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yell louder to intimidate pandabearguys
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the stink bomb idea was perfect for killing a party, thread should have stopped there
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In some countries, it's illegal to transport durian fruit in public places because the smell is so putrid (like human feces).
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I slept last night. Yay!
about the vandalism:
I also got an email from our common landlord (all appartments are from the same landlord. It's a bunch of flats. Some of them are 18 stores high, some only 4. In total there are like 150-300 appartments? But I can only hear the one big flat with 50.) Anyway, since I appreciate all your input, i will translate it. It gives a good chapter of this story:
[friendly introduction]
- throwing shit can kill people
- when we notice shit being thrown from one appartment, everybody living in that appartment will be evicted. Costs made to clean up will be payed by the appartment.
- Only people who can prove they were not there at the moment will not be evicted.
- when visitors to your party throw shit, you are still the one being evicted.
- when stuff get out of control call the police and let them close down the party.
have a nice day!
Travis, threatening to move out is not going to help since we have housing shortage overhere, but I appreciate you thinking with me.
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Congrats. Glad you manged to get somewhere
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fact is some people dont undertand people that want to sleep 8 hours a night.
i feel like i have to...
but apparently, there are people that get 4 hours every night and are just fine.
i think the fundamentals of the argument are between these 2 types of people. but when youre going to sleep at 3 in the morning, just try to imagine your walls all shaking and people yelling.
...or just go to bed totally shitfaced every night. either helps.
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Stop being a pussy and join in the fun!
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lol nice haha. hope the situation will be better navane
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Fuck i hate party's when I am trying to sleep -.-, well I just hate party's, good luck to you man, hope everything works out ok.
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A quick and effective method which will hurt nobody:
Throw a stink bomb, the party will be over soon
(only for the tenacious cases ofc)
Especially nice when there are carpet floors. In that case the flat owner has something to remember.
Or throw it at guests directly.
This goes along the same lines as "get stuff stolen" (though I don't recommend that, it seems to much of a delict): people learn they better party somewhere else, otherwise it's too much hassle for them.
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man when i clicked on this i thought it said [h] kill pirates
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On May 16 2009 20:33 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:Here, problem solved. You're welcome.
i second this idea
haha though this might not stop the party... it might cramp their style
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take a hit of the blunt once and see if your perception doesn't change
-katt williams
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you are being passive aggressive.
not only that, but you are looking for some complete, perfectly passive aggressive way to get your way. this is your problem.
incidentally, this is also why you are having such a hard time making friends in this thread. because no one wants to aid and abet someone else in the albeit noble quest of enforcing their own wants on total strangers from the safety of anonymity. that's not most people's bag.
advice?
cowboy up and solve the problem.
there are about a billion and two thirds ways to solve this problem. some of them (confrontation, cops, etc.) are aggressive. some of them (earplugs, moving) are passive. pick one you're comfortable with and go with it. play the game honestly. you'll be fine with the result.
don't, however, try to find that secret, wonderful solution that has the triumph of an aggressive maneuver and the soft, anonymous, safety of a passive one. that's how a bitch would play.
gl hf
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This thread has been going on for soooo long. There are a great many good ideas here, from calling the cops to making their place smell like shit to earplugs to whatever. It is odd that something like this has kept our attention for so long.
Regardless, gl DONThf.
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Isnt it sad that people think of throwing stink bombs and other shit instead of buy-in earplugs for $1.20?
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On May 25 2009 18:09 baal wrote:
Isnt it sad that people think of throwing stink bombs and other shit instead of buy-in earplugs for $1.20?
Isn´t that sad that people keep other people up at night with loud music playing when they all already propably have headphones to listen music with?
And why can´t they party somewhere else? Rude assholes the whole bunch IMO.
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On May 25 2009 18:14 Mah Buckit! wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2009 18:09 baal wrote:
Isnt it sad that people think of throwing stink bombs and other shit instead of buy-in earplugs for $1.20? Isn´t that sad that people keep other people up at night with loud music playing when they all already propably have headphones to listen music with? And why can´t they party somewhere else? Rude assholes the whole bunch IMO.
You cant have a party with head-phones why would you even propose such a dumb idea.
Also they would be assholes if 1 apartment were disturbing the whole building, but its the whole building disturbing 1 guy, the majority dictates here, so he either adapts or gets out.
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On May 25 2009 18:09 baal wrote:
Isnt it sad that people think of throwing stink bombs and other shit instead of buy-in earplugs for $1.20?
what's sad is that people think that earplugs are going to help, and that someone should have to wear earplugs so that they can sleep in a place that they are -PAYING- to live
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You need to sleep man. And I only got to page 5 before I skipped to the end. I can't believe how many immature people there are. The thread maker asked how he could stop the music, and some people are like JOIN THEM MANG.
I mean, come on...
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