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starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 03 2009 01:40 GMT
#281
i dont think you guys understand how much america is changing. you just want to deny it or embrace progressive's. do you even know some of the viewpoints on the people in washington? There was one who wrote a book on how he believes in forced sterilization in some communities. There was also one who associated with the KKK. and there are many others and all these people were appointed by obama. But i guess. Glenn beck is just crazy and these people weren't actually hired. and that you keep wanting to listen to the bullshit spoon fed to you by our government. You can follow this train but please. dont insult glenn because you dont agree with some of the things he says. He brings to light on many subjects and is more of a commentator. He gives good reason by everything he says. Of course its easy in politics to bash someone for saying something. cause usually they just leave out the reasoning. He made many good points for why obama has an issue with white people. do you really not know what kind of church obama was attending for 20 years?
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
August 03 2009 01:56 GMT
#282
Oh shit, Obama associates with black people. You're right, that means he was an 'issue' with white people.
My strategy is to fork people.
starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 03 2009 02:03 GMT
#283
On August 03 2009 10:56 Severedevil wrote:
Oh shit, Obama associates with black people. You're right, that means he was an 'issue' with white people.

obvious troll is obvious. are you not reading the thread. his church was racist.
Yurebis
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1452 Posts
August 03 2009 02:04 GMT
#284
Since this was bumped I might as well post something useful...
http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/07/revealed-racist-talk-show-host-turner-was-an-fbi-informant/

Right-wing extremism is a manufactured danger... propagated by FBI provocateurs and informants alike.

About Beck, I don't like him, not for the same reason as everyone else. It's just that he's limited hangout for a lot of things. He'll say some very truthful things and lie so hard on others. He'll badmouth the Fed in one segment which is great, then fearmonger his audience on rightwing extremism for example. I guess it's part of every TV character to say stupid stuff for better ratings.
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 02:09:22
August 03 2009 02:08 GMT
#285
On August 03 2009 11:04 Yurebis wrote:
Since this was bumped I might as well post something useful...
http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/07/revealed-racist-talk-show-host-turner-was-an-fbi-informant/

Right-wing extremism is a manufactured danger... propagated by FBI provocateurs and informants alike.

About Beck, I don't like him, not for the same reason as everyone else. It's just that he's limited hangout for a lot of things. He'll say some very truthful things and lie so hard on others. He'll badmouth the Fed in one segment which is great, then fearmonger his audience on rightwing extremism for example. I guess it's part of every TV character to say stupid stuff for better ratings.

Atleast someone here doesnt like him for reasons that aren't anothers so for that, i am glad to see some intelligence.
:Future reference, maybe political threads aren't good for game forums ;D ?
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
August 03 2009 02:08 GMT
#286
On April 15 2009 14:03 Sadist wrote:
all the fox news stuff has been pretty insane lately. All of the hardcore conservatives and wackjobs werent as popular during the clinton years (aside from rush.....ugh) so this is the first we get to see of them when they dont agree with the government wholeheartedly.

I disagree with fiscal conservatives, but they are at least intelligent people and you can talk to them.
These neo-cons are fucking nuts imo.


My gf's parents listen to Rush, especially when I go over there (in a feeble attempt to convert me).
He spews bile.
Freedom of speech has its consequences.
You are now breathing manually.
Yurebis
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1452 Posts
August 03 2009 02:12 GMT
#287
On August 03 2009 11:08 starPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 11:04 Yurebis wrote:
Since this was bumped I might as well post something useful...
http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/07/revealed-racist-talk-show-host-turner-was-an-fbi-informant/

Right-wing extremism is a manufactured danger... propagated by FBI provocateurs and informants alike.

About Beck, I don't like him, not for the same reason as everyone else. It's just that he's limited hangout for a lot of things. He'll say some very truthful things and lie so hard on others. He'll badmouth the Fed in one segment which is great, then fearmonger his audience on rightwing extremism for example. I guess it's part of every TV character to say stupid stuff for better ratings.

Atleast someone here doesnt like him for reasons that aren't anothers so for that, i am glad to see some intelligence.
:Future reference, maybe political threads aren't good for game forums ;D ?


Certainly they aren't, when you go "too far" here, the mods will close your thread for making them think too much. True story, happened to me.
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 03 2009 02:16 GMT
#288
so i guess this isnt the first time there was a heated political thread on TL? is there religion threads? i hate religion threads.. i try so hard not to get pissed --
starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 03 2009 02:18 GMT
#289
On June 12 2009 05:05 Yurebis wrote:
No, militia groups are law abiding citizens who want to PROTECT the law with their own hands. Which is exactly what the second amendment defends. Which is exactly what the government and media have demonized for years.

The government concluded it would rather have an unarmed and unthinking population, and so have demonized them for years. Militia groups have existed since before the country was founded, and was assured safety from tyranny by the Bill of Rights, and yet today they're called "extremists" by government apologists all over. People are scared of guns today, they'd rather see men in black uniforms protecting them and smear those who want to be able to defend themselves. How dare you have a gun? You should thank God for having such a loving and caring government.

Reading back on the post i think this is right on. couldn't agree more
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 03 2009 02:20 GMT
#290
On August 03 2009 11:12 Yurebis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 11:08 starPride wrote:
On August 03 2009 11:04 Yurebis wrote:
Since this was bumped I might as well post something useful...
http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/07/revealed-racist-talk-show-host-turner-was-an-fbi-informant/

Right-wing extremism is a manufactured danger... propagated by FBI provocateurs and informants alike.

About Beck, I don't like him, not for the same reason as everyone else. It's just that he's limited hangout for a lot of things. He'll say some very truthful things and lie so hard on others. He'll badmouth the Fed in one segment which is great, then fearmonger his audience on rightwing extremism for example. I guess it's part of every TV character to say stupid stuff for better ratings.

Atleast someone here doesnt like him for reasons that aren't anothers so for that, i am glad to see some intelligence.
:Future reference, maybe political threads aren't good for game forums ;D ?


Certainly they aren't, when you go "too far" here, the mods will close your thread for making them think too much. True story, happened to me.

Being an idiot isn't helpful either.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 03 2009 02:21 GMT
#291
do you mean having an opinion?
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 03 2009 02:26 GMT
#292
Look man. I hopped on the Obama train for competence. If you can show me evidence that one of his appointees has no relevant experience then maybe I'll start listening. But as for people being associated with the KKK, the "forced sterilization" thing, I honestly don't give a damn.

All I want is a well-run government. Is that too much to ask? It was for Bush. I think it would have been for McCain.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Yurebis
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1452 Posts
August 03 2009 02:31 GMT
#293
It isn't well run and won't be well run until you realize you can't have a sustainable government thats running on trillions of debt. Neither party will address how to handle a negative budget without spending more, so I guess we'll be trying to get out of this hole by digging more hole. Maybe we can get to China in a few decades, haha.
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 03 2009 02:35 GMT
#294
On August 03 2009 11:31 Yurebis wrote:
It isn't well run and won't be well run until you realize you can't have a sustainable government thats running on trillions of debt. Neither party will address how to handle a negative budget without spending more, so I guess we'll be trying to get out of this hole by digging more hole. Maybe we can get to China in a few decades, haha.

Or we could raise taxes. It's gonna happen, dude. It's gonna happen.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 03:18:27
August 03 2009 03:06 GMT
#295
On August 03 2009 11:21 starPride wrote:
do you mean having an opinion?

You can have an opinion, but it's clear that neither you or Yurebis have any understanding of the context of the second amendment or what Jefferson's original words even were. I'm sure the Wikipedia article worked well for your 10th grade history paper, though.

Protect the law? Vigilantes? The law is interpreted, so how is their protection more valid than another group's? I can assure you the Montana Militia and Delaware Militia have opposing views on the law's intent, and the truth is that neither one of their opinions matter, unless a Supreme Court Justice happens to be a member of one of them.

The second amendment was written in a time when there was no federal army to reign tyranny upon the states. The role of militias, as they were used at the time, has since been replaced by the National Guard. That's why the creation of the NG is called the Militia Act.

Quite frankly, I don't mind the second amendment but it's a horribly written law so it's understandable that both sides feel the need to interpret it according to their own agenda.

The federal government hasn't demonized militias; they've remained largely agnostic. People in militias happen to be fucking weirdos. If you're one of them, then you're probably a weirdo. And yeah, the government really wants an uneducated and apathetic populace. That really works well in democracies.

Glenn Beck is an entertainer first and foremost, and to call him a leading conservative mind is an insult to the ghosts of Milton Friedmen, Fredrich Hayek or even Edmund Burke. I'm sure you've never heard of those men, but let me assure you that they were much more intelligent than Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Rielly, Keith Oberman, Wolf Blitzer, Lou Dobbs or any other jackass that's on TV/radio.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
zeppelin
Profile Joined December 2007
United States565 Posts
August 03 2009 03:21 GMT
#296
On August 03 2009 11:31 Yurebis wrote:
It isn't well run and won't be well run until you realize you can't have a sustainable government thats running on trillions of debt. Neither party will address how to handle a negative budget without spending more, so I guess we'll be trying to get out of this hole by digging more hole. Maybe we can get to China in a few decades, haha.


Even counting the recent bailouts (and the fact that the true costs of Iraq + Afghanistan are reflected in the actual budget instead of "emergency funding"), the US debt to GDP ratio is consistent with other Western countries. When everyone borrows from everyone else at comparable rates, it all ends up a wash in the end.
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 03:33:40
August 03 2009 03:29 GMT
#297
On August 03 2009 12:06 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 11:21 starPride wrote:
do you mean having an opinion?

You can have an opinion, but it's clear that neither you or Yurebis have any understanding of the context of the second amendment or what Jefferson's original words even were. I'm sure the Wikipedia article worked well for your 10th grade history paper, though.

Protect the law? Vigilantes? The law is interpreted, so how is their protection more valid than another group's? I can assure you the Montana Militia and Delaware Militia have opposing views on the law's intent, and the truth is that neither one of their opinions matter, unless a Supreme Court Justice happens to be a member of one of them.

The second amendment was written in a time when there was no federal army to reign tyranny upon the states. The role of militias, as they were used at the time, has since been replaced by the National Guard. That's why the creation of the NG is called the Militia Act.

The federal government hasn't demonized militias; they've remained largely agnostic. People in militias happen to be fucking weirdos. If you're one of them, then you're probably a weirdo. And yeah, the government really wants an uneducated and apathetic populace. That really works well in democracies.

Glenn Beck is an entertainer first and foremost, and to call him a leading conservative mind is an insult to the ghosts of Milton Friedmen, Fredrich Hayek or even Edmund Burke. I'm sure you've never heard of those men, but let me assure you that they were much more intelligent than Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Rielly, Keith Oberman, Wolf Blitzer, Lou Dobbs or any other jackass that's on TV/radio.


Amen. F.A. Hayek is one of my favorite Statesman and intellectual. Don't forget John Locke, Adam Smith, Mizes, Ayn Rand, Alexis De Tocqueville, and countless others. There is only one person that I would put up there with them in this day and age and thats Mark Levin. Won't find a better Constitutional Scholar and intellectual champion for limited government and the importance of our Founders and their original intent.

On August 03 2009 12:06 Jibba wrote:
Quite frankly, I don't mind the second amendment but it's a horribly written law so it's understandable that both sides feel the need to interpret it according to their own agenda.


I must disagree perfusely with this assessment. The second amendment is crystal clear.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

You can't write a law any clearer. 'the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'

I bolded the most important aspect.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 03 2009 03:32 GMT
#298
This is the book you need to read.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
August 03 2009 03:36 GMT
#299
On August 03 2009 12:32 Jibba wrote:
This is the book you need to read.


That is a great book. I would also recommend this classic and must read to everyone.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 03 2009 03:52 GMT
#300
On August 03 2009 12:36 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 12:32 Jibba wrote:
This is the book you need to read.


That is a great book. I would also recommend this classic and must read to everyone.

Road to Serfdom is the more important of the two as a general treatise for why collectivism is bad (plus it got him kicked out of the UK for basically calling the PM a Nazi) but Constitution is the best overall basis of conservatism, and it's theoretical enough to keep pop libertarians/NYTimes Best Seller fans away. Just like reading Communist Manifesto isn't enough to understand communism, I'd say the same applies for conservatism.
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