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Yurebis
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1452 Posts
June 14 2009 21:12 GMT
#261
I beg to differ, they're not the same, but if you want to group them all together then by all means go ahead, honest and informed people know how they're different and why they're different, and also why would the feds would want to group them all together.

And about the bombs, innocence until proven guilty, please. You can't prove those acquitted wanted to bomb, and the jury in those cases did not fall for the feds testimony, thats all. I don't know why some would have powerful and deadly bombs but I'm not going to sit here and judge them on it, there's people that love bombs of every sort, just like there's tons of guns enthusiasts, that doesn't make them killers, so no, having illegal bombs does not = dangerous extremist.
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 14 2009 21:41 GMT
#262
Okay then. If you don't see a potentially profile worthy link between a group with, in your words, a mission of "waging a war on domestic terror" having illegal bombs because you think they're just harmless collectors, then that's about as far as this can go.

I mean, might as well give them stealth bombers, entire military bases and let them have access to a nuclear silo because they're just enthusiasts who wouldn't hurt anyone :3.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Yurebis
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1452 Posts
June 14 2009 21:57 GMT
#263
That would be sweet!
but no, they should be charged and sentenced for having those. I'm just saying that's as far as the law should go. There's no provision saying "if you ever break the law we can track and survey you and every group thats related to your ideology".

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 14 2009 22:40 GMT
#264
Actually, the Bureau of Justice allows fairly elaborate levels of offender profiling, so there goes that idea.

Entrapment, which you should look up, is a different topic completely. If people were caught on buying explosives charges from the fed and didn't get off on entrapment it meant the requirements for entrapment weren't met: ie they showed that they would have purchased the weaponry either way if given a chance.

As for the video, the host's a douchebag but most of the prescriptive qualities released in the report and confirmed there. Also: lol at the russians are coming.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Yurebis
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1452 Posts
June 14 2009 22:53 GMT
#265
The russians are here man what you talking about >:[

I do have to study it a little bit, ty for being so tolerant of my rants

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9043102260805967440&hl=en
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 14 2009 23:05 GMT
#266
You didn't watch your own video? Shocker.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Yurebis
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1452 Posts
June 14 2009 23:31 GMT
#267
On June 15 2009 08:05 L wrote:
You didn't watch your own video? Shocker.

What, no I'm watching them as I post them
but I was kidding about the russians
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 22:05:34
August 02 2009 21:52 GMT
#268
A Long Island mother of three -- armed to the teeth with an assault rifle and shotgun -- was arrested for scouting out and taking pictures of an Air National Guard base in the Hamptons, authorities said.


Caracappa said Genovese was taking photographs of the perimeter of the base. A search of her car uncovered an arsenal -- an XM-15 assault rifle, a shotgun and 500 rounds of ammunition.


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Source

Source

MySpace with Comments


...we the people. I just saw GlennBeck tell it like it is!
Yes, he was firm and he is talking to congress, for all of us.
...we the people. I just saw Glenn Becks show, now on the 2 am show, missed it at 5 PM today.


United we stand, divided we fall.


Please do re post this video
.

He is mad as hell and so are we. He is right and so are we.
He says a copy of the letter he is speaking of, from a grandmother, is on his site


GlennBeck.com, if you want to add a comment or sign it.

God Bless all of you my friends.


http://www.webcitation.org/5ij3wAzw5

Her Twitter: http://twitter.com/ngenovese

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
August 02 2009 22:41 GMT
#269
On August 03 2009 06:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
A Long Island mother of three -- armed to the teeth with an assault rifle and shotgun -- was arrested for scouting out and taking pictures of an Air National Guard base in the Hamptons, authorities said.


Show nested quote +
Caracappa said Genovese was taking photographs of the perimeter of the base. A search of her car uncovered an arsenal -- an XM-15 assault rifle, a shotgun and 500 rounds of ammunition.


[image loading]


Source

Source

MySpace with Comments

Show nested quote +

...we the people. I just saw GlennBeck tell it like it is!
Yes, he was firm and he is talking to congress, for all of us.
...we the people. I just saw Glenn Becks show, now on the 2 am show, missed it at 5 PM today.


United we stand, divided we fall.


Please do re post this video
.

He is mad as hell and so are we. He is right and so are we.
He says a copy of the letter he is speaking of, from a grandmother, is on his site


GlennBeck.com, if you want to add a comment or sign it.

God Bless all of you my friends.


http://www.webcitation.org/5ij3wAzw5

Her Twitter: http://twitter.com/ngenovese



Do these people not understand? You don't use violence. When the Government becomes such a Tyranny as to warrant its abolisment and reinstitution, the only option is Secession, not trying to be China or Iran and overthrow it from the inside. You especially don't go after military personnel, who have sworn an oath to the Constitution and NOT to the Government. Crazy people.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
August 02 2009 22:59 GMT
#270
On August 03 2009 07:41 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 06:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
A Long Island mother of three -- armed to the teeth with an assault rifle and shotgun -- was arrested for scouting out and taking pictures of an Air National Guard base in the Hamptons, authorities said.


Caracappa said Genovese was taking photographs of the perimeter of the base. A search of her car uncovered an arsenal -- an XM-15 assault rifle, a shotgun and 500 rounds of ammunition.


[image loading]


Source

Source

MySpace with Comments


...we the people. I just saw GlennBeck tell it like it is!
Yes, he was firm and he is talking to congress, for all of us.
...we the people. I just saw Glenn Becks show, now on the 2 am show, missed it at 5 PM today.


United we stand, divided we fall.


Please do re post this video
.

He is mad as hell and so are we. He is right and so are we.
He says a copy of the letter he is speaking of, from a grandmother, is on his site


GlennBeck.com, if you want to add a comment or sign it.

God Bless all of you my friends.


http://www.webcitation.org/5ij3wAzw5

Her Twitter: http://twitter.com/ngenovese



Do these people not understand? You don't use violence. When the Government becomes such a Tyranny as to warrant its abolisment and reinstitution, the only option is Secession, not trying to be China or Iran and overthrow it from the inside. You especially don't go after military personnel, who have sworn an oath to the Constitution and NOT to the Government. Crazy people.


Yes that is quite crazy, but the craziest part is that she believed a single word that Glenn Beck says.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 02 2009 23:33 GMT
#271
On August 03 2009 07:59 Rotodyne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 07:41 Aegraen wrote:
On August 03 2009 06:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
A Long Island mother of three -- armed to the teeth with an assault rifle and shotgun -- was arrested for scouting out and taking pictures of an Air National Guard base in the Hamptons, authorities said.


Caracappa said Genovese was taking photographs of the perimeter of the base. A search of her car uncovered an arsenal -- an XM-15 assault rifle, a shotgun and 500 rounds of ammunition.


[image loading]


Source

Source

MySpace with Comments


...we the people. I just saw GlennBeck tell it like it is!
Yes, he was firm and he is talking to congress, for all of us.
...we the people. I just saw Glenn Becks show, now on the 2 am show, missed it at 5 PM today.


United we stand, divided we fall.


Please do re post this video
.

He is mad as hell and so are we. He is right and so are we.
He says a copy of the letter he is speaking of, from a grandmother, is on his site


GlennBeck.com, if you want to add a comment or sign it.

God Bless all of you my friends.


http://www.webcitation.org/5ij3wAzw5

Her Twitter: http://twitter.com/ngenovese



Do these people not understand? You don't use violence. When the Government becomes such a Tyranny as to warrant its abolisment and reinstitution, the only option is Secession, not trying to be China or Iran and overthrow it from the inside. You especially don't go after military personnel, who have sworn an oath to the Constitution and NOT to the Government. Crazy people.


Yes that is quite crazy, but the craziest part is that she believed a single word that Glenn Beck says.


Even crazier is the part where you wouldnt believe a single word he says, have you watched his show or are you watching the fucking loons who try to make him out to be a loon. Tell me. Are you intelligent enough to come up with your own decisions or do you let others on the media do it for you?
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
August 02 2009 23:54 GMT
#272
On August 03 2009 08:33 starPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 07:59 Rotodyne wrote:
On August 03 2009 07:41 Aegraen wrote:
On August 03 2009 06:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
A Long Island mother of three -- armed to the teeth with an assault rifle and shotgun -- was arrested for scouting out and taking pictures of an Air National Guard base in the Hamptons, authorities said.


Caracappa said Genovese was taking photographs of the perimeter of the base. A search of her car uncovered an arsenal -- an XM-15 assault rifle, a shotgun and 500 rounds of ammunition.


[image loading]


Source

Source

MySpace with Comments


...we the people. I just saw GlennBeck tell it like it is!
Yes, he was firm and he is talking to congress, for all of us.
...we the people. I just saw Glenn Becks show, now on the 2 am show, missed it at 5 PM today.


United we stand, divided we fall.


Please do re post this video
.

He is mad as hell and so are we. He is right and so are we.
He says a copy of the letter he is speaking of, from a grandmother, is on his site


GlennBeck.com, if you want to add a comment or sign it.

God Bless all of you my friends.


http://www.webcitation.org/5ij3wAzw5

Her Twitter: http://twitter.com/ngenovese



Do these people not understand? You don't use violence. When the Government becomes such a Tyranny as to warrant its abolisment and reinstitution, the only option is Secession, not trying to be China or Iran and overthrow it from the inside. You especially don't go after military personnel, who have sworn an oath to the Constitution and NOT to the Government. Crazy people.


Yes that is quite crazy, but the craziest part is that she believed a single word that Glenn Beck says.


Even crazier is the part where you wouldnt believe a single word he says, have you watched his show or are you watching the fucking loons who try to make him out to be a loon. Tell me. Are you intelligent enough to come up with your own decisions or do you let others on the media do it for you?


No, thats fucking crazy.

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" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 03 2009 00:21 GMT
#273
brazilian trying to tell me im insane. you dumb shits cant even fix ur own shit country. dont come here and tell us about ours .
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 00:27:52
August 03 2009 00:26 GMT
#274
On August 03 2009 09:21 starPride wrote:
brazilian trying to tell me im insane. you dumb shits cant even fix ur own shit country. dont come here and tell us about ours .

LOL, Brazil is the world's 10th largest economy and very stable atm.

Also, Glenn Beck is terrible. He called Obama a racist because... why?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 00:29:28
August 03 2009 00:29 GMT
#275
On August 03 2009 09:21 starPride wrote:
brazilian trying to tell me im insane. you dumb shits cant even fix ur own shit country. dont come here and tell us about ours .

Blanka + Ronaldo > you
k ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 00:38:23
August 03 2009 00:33 GMT
#276
On August 03 2009 09:21 starPride wrote:
brazilian trying to tell me im insane. you dumb shits cant even fix ur own shit country. dont come here and tell us about ours .

No wonder you got so defensive, you ARE Glenn Beck.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
August 03 2009 00:41 GMT
#277
On August 03 2009 09:26 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 09:21 starPride wrote:
brazilian trying to tell me im insane. you dumb shits cant even fix ur own shit country. dont come here and tell us about ours .

LOL, Brazil is the world's 10th largest economy and very stable atm.

Also, Glenn Beck is terrible. He called Obama a racist because... why?


Did you not follow the Crowley case?
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 03 2009 00:58 GMT
#278
On August 03 2009 09:41 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 09:26 motbob wrote:
On August 03 2009 09:21 starPride wrote:
brazilian trying to tell me im insane. you dumb shits cant even fix ur own shit country. dont come here and tell us about ours .

LOL, Brazil is the world's 10th largest economy and very stable atm.

Also, Glenn Beck is terrible. He called Obama a racist because... why?


Did you not follow the Crowley case?

I am amazed that you and Glenn Beck are able to infer so much after Obama's extremely limited statements about that case.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
uiCk
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1925 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 01:30:11
August 03 2009 01:21 GMT
#279
stupid americans, STICK TO PBS , glen beck is a FKIN IDIOT.

edit: obviously didn't read much in this thread, but yea all these middle class people that have made new life in last 10-15 years and now their living standards are not as lovely, will have tendencies to go on the extremes imo directly related with their psychological mood, and obviously there is money to make when you can get a large number of pissed off people on your side for whatever the cause may be (political, economical etc.).
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 01:40:19
August 03 2009 01:39 GMT
#280
On August 03 2009 09:58 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 09:41 Aegraen wrote:
On August 03 2009 09:26 motbob wrote:
On August 03 2009 09:21 starPride wrote:
brazilian trying to tell me im insane. you dumb shits cant even fix ur own shit country. dont come here and tell us about ours .

LOL, Brazil is the world's 10th largest economy and very stable atm.

Also, Glenn Beck is terrible. He called Obama a racist because... why?


Did you not follow the Crowley case?

I am amazed that you and Glenn Beck are able to infer so much after Obama's extremely limited statements about that case.


No, whats telling is the haste at which Obama slandered the white officer solely on the basis of hearing what color the officer was and what color the accused was. He even admitted he had no facts (Obama). Seriously, also if you sat for 20 years in a racist church, you wouldn't be called racist yourself?

Black Liberation Theology is as racist as it comes. Might as well be a NBPP member.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
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