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On April 09 2009 04:28 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2009 03:55 Savio wrote:On April 08 2009 12:26 Oystein wrote:
Norway
Likes
- Free health care for everyone
- Free education for everyone
Dislikes
- Everything is sick expensive because of ultra high taxes on them, like 10$ for a pack of cigarettes, 40$ and up for a bottle of vodka, almost 2$ pr liter of gasoline.
On April 08 2009 21:16 jello_biafra wrote:
UK
Likes:
-Free health care for all
-Free education for all
Dislikes:
-Everything is horribly expensive
I'm starting to see a pattern here... I chuckle everytime someone incorrectly says "Free _____" cause then I say to myself..."here it comes." I look down the list of dislikes and BAM! Your pattern you think you are seeing is generally completely wrong. Countries with small populations are able to support healthcare and education like that. Their crap is horribly expensive because smaller countries don't really produce their own stuff, they have to import a whole lot more of it than say the US does. Yes, the US does have low tax rates compared to most of the rest of the industrialized world we also have the highest debt per capita in comparison... by a huge margin. Your conservative viewpoint is wonderful and all but it's completely misguided in this case.
Don't comment on economics unless you understand it.
Being small does NOT make things more expensive and neither does importing. Also, the US debt to GDP ratio (the only reasonable measure) is NOT the highest.
+ Show Spoiler +
There is a thread on economics. Read it from the beginning. We have partly used it to educate those without understanding of economics.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=79544
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Micronesia
Likes:
- This region consists of many hundreds of small islands spread over a large region of the western Pacific. The only empire known to have originated in Micronesia was based in Yap.
- Politically, Micronesia is divided into eight nation-states and territories:
- Today, most of Micronesia – with the exceptions of Guam and Wake Island, which are U.S. territories, and the Northern Mariana Islands, which form a U.S. Commonwealth – consists of independent states.
- The people today form many ethnicities, but are all descended from and belong to the Micronesian culture. The Micronesian culture was one of the last native cultures of the region to develop. It developed from a mixture of Melanesians, Filipinos and Polynesians. Because of this mixture of descent, many of the ethnicities of Micronesia feel closer to some groups in Melanesia, Polynesia or the Philippines. A good example of this are the Yapese who are related to Austronesian tribes in the Northern Philippines.
- The native languages of the various Micronesian indigenous peoples are classified under the Austronesian language family. Almost all of these languages belong to the Oceanic subgroup of this family.
- The region is home to the Micronesian Games, a quadrennial international multi-sport event involving all Micronesia's countries and territories except Wake Island. In September 2007, journalists in the region founded the Micronesian Media Association.
Dislikes:
- Much of the area was to come under European domination quite early. Guam, the Northern Marianas, and the Caroline Islands (what would later become the FSM and Palau) were colonized early by the Spanish. These island territories were part of the Spanish East Indies and governed from the Spanish Philippines since the early 17th century until 1898.
- During the First World War, Germany's Pacific island territories were taken from it and became League of Nations Mandates in 1923. Nauru became an Australian mandate, while Germany's other territories in Micronesia were given as a mandate to Japan and were named the South Pacific Mandate. This remained the situation until Japan's defeat in the Second World War, when its mandate became a United Nations Trusteeship ruled by the United States, the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands.
- On the eastern edge of the Federated States of Micronesia, the languages Nukuoro and Kapingamarangi represent an extreme westward extension of Polynesian.
On April 09 2009 23:44 Savio wrote:
Don't comment on economics unless you understand it.
Unnecessary comment, even if you are right... ESPECIALLY if you are right...
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On April 10 2009 00:19 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2009 23:44 Savio wrote:
Don't comment on economics unless you understand it. Unnecessary comment, even if you are right... ESPECIALLY if you are right...
In my defense, snide comments like
Your pattern you think you are seeing is generally completely wrong.
and
Your conservative viewpoint is wonderful and all but it's completely misguided in this case.
should be reserved for when someone actually knows what they are talking about. That was my point.
BACK ON TOPIC:
Some more about the US:
Likes:
1. Grilling steak/burgers/hotdogs outside.
2. Cheap gasoline
3. Walmart (seriously, it has everything and it is cheap)
4. Wide streets
Dislikes:
1. Culture of consumption
2. Too focused on physical sports and no enough on alternatives (chess, starcraft, etc)
3. Actors being elevated as political figures due only to fame (for being pretty/funny/etc)
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On April 10 2009 01:01 Savio wrote:
Likes:
1. Grilling steak/burgers/hotdogs outside.
2. Cheap gasoline
3. Walmart (seriously, it has everything and it is cheap)
4. Wide streets
Dislikes:
1. Culture of consumption
 everything you like about the US is consumption.
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Finland: (Where Im living)
Dislikes:
Loneliness (Fins are very lonely)
Egoism, Selfishness, Arrogants (Everybody lives in his own world)
Divorcement (In Finland Never belive in marriage)
Drunkard (Disgusting fuckers)
Likes:
Good climate (Trees, lakes, snow)
Moralism (Helpful people, no criminals, everyone abides by the law)
China: (Where I'm come from)
Dislikes:
shit climate
ppl have no moral
government corruption
too many ppl !!!
"one child system"
Likes:
hard-working young ppl, who have alot passion
friendly ppl
food
cheap staff
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On April 12 2009 05:29 emucxg wrote:Finland: (Where Im living)Dislikes: Loneliness (Fins are very lonely)
Egoism, Selfishness, Arrogants (Everybody lives in his own world)
Divorcement (In Finland Never belive in marriage)
Drunkard (Disgusting fuckers)
Likes: Good climate (Trees, lakes, snow)
Moralism (Helpful people, no criminals, everyone abides by the law)
uh ?
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On April 12 2009 05:35 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2009 05:29 emucxg wrote:Finland: (Where Im living)Dislikes: Loneliness (Fins are very lonely)
Egoism, Selfishness, Arrogants (Everybody lives in his own world)
Divorcement (In Finland Never belive in marriage)
Drunkard (Disgusting fuckers)
Likes: Good climate (Trees, lakes, snow)
Moralism (Helpful people, no criminals, everyone abides by the law) uh ?
Egoism, Selfishness, Arrogants
hmm, let me give you an example,
when your mum is sick, staying at hospital, in Finland you would just make a call, not visit to the hospital to watch her. Fins ppl doesn't really take take seriously.
If you have money problem or you are in trouble, man, don't dream that your good friend would help you. U better do a suicide =)
On other hand, Finnish are the most honest and helpful in the world, if you dropped your wallet to somewhere, u know what? next day somebody who found it may ring your door, and give that to you
Finland is a amazing country
ps. this is just an example, I'm sure some Finnish will take care of his parent, and not everybody gonna give your wallet back when he found it =)
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Canada: Boring as fuck, but it's all around a nice and decent place. Entertainment relies much more on the people than what you're doing.
Korea: There's always stuff to do, always a lot of shit going on, but in the same way it's too hectic, people are extremely confrontational, the education system sucks, the government has been corrupt for like 500 years straight, and the society is half-rotten.
America: lol, fuck off I'm never going to live there again. I'll go down there every once in a while to buy some stuff but that's about it.
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On April 12 2009 07:07 koreasilver wrote:
America: lol, fuck off I'm never going to live there again. I'll go down there every once in a while to buy some stuff but that's about it.
Where did you live?
It's a big country, you know, with some equally awful and awesome parts in various places 
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Some places in South Carolina and then Boston. Went around Washington DC, New York, Philadelphia, and Chicago.
Boston was my favourite.
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Philippines
Likes:
-Ice COLD beer
-Sex
-Drugs
-Hiphop
-rock
-boxing(no one can beat us in boxing) *please don't get insecure you f*ck
Dislikes
-corruption
-gay americans that live here(imo theres like 90% american gay lives here)
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-Ice COLD beer
-Sex
-Drugs
-Hiphop
-rock
-boxing(no one can beat us in boxing) *please don't get insecure you f*ck
WTF has anything of this to do with your country?
Btw:
My village just lowered their taxes by nearly 30% :p (125% to 95%) and our electrical bill, at least for 2008, is free :D
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On April 08 2009 08:10 Spyfire242 wrote:
America
Likes
-Disgusting food that tastes delicious
-Freedoms and rights
-Music
-We can kick any other countries ass like the arrogant bastards we are
Edit: We have IdrA!
Dislikes
-Idiots that make us all look bad
-Japanese interment (Freedoms and rights are useless when they can take them away)
Maybe more to come.
Of all the sins of this country you could have pulled, this is what you settle on? This is nothing compared to the worst this country has done, Jesus
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On April 09 2009 23:44 Savio wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2009 04:28 Jayme wrote:On April 09 2009 03:55 Savio wrote:On April 08 2009 12:26 Oystein wrote:
Norway
Likes
- Free health care for everyone
- Free education for everyone
Dislikes
- Everything is sick expensive because of ultra high taxes on them, like 10$ for a pack of cigarettes, 40$ and up for a bottle of vodka, almost 2$ pr liter of gasoline.
On April 08 2009 21:16 jello_biafra wrote:
UK
Likes:
-Free health care for all
-Free education for all
Dislikes:
-Everything is horribly expensive
I'm starting to see a pattern here... I chuckle everytime someone incorrectly says "Free _____" cause then I say to myself..."here it comes." I look down the list of dislikes and BAM! Your pattern you think you are seeing is generally completely wrong. Countries with small populations are able to support healthcare and education like that. Their crap is horribly expensive because smaller countries don't really produce their own stuff, they have to import a whole lot more of it than say the US does. Yes, the US does have low tax rates compared to most of the rest of the industrialized world we also have the highest debt per capita in comparison... by a huge margin. Your conservative viewpoint is wonderful and all but it's completely misguided in this case. Don't comment on economics unless you understand it. Being small does NOT make things more expensive and neither does importing. Also, the US debt to GDP ratio (the only reasonable measure) is NOT the highest. + Show Spoiler +There is a thread on economics. Read it from the beginning. We have partly used it to educate those without understanding of economics. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=79544
You're only looking at federal debt? Americans are ABSOLUTELY more indebted as a whole than most nations. Aggregate personal debt rivals in amount that of the federal government, and let's not forget state debts as well.
And the primordial argument about the services vis-a-vis taxes is stupid. Bang-for-the buck we're way worse off than the Europeans. That is, cost-benefit analysis, our (services/tax+costs) ratio is much lower than theirs on the aggregate. If you're an average citizen, you'll get much better health-care than here, and pay less through your taxes than we pay here for private service, and that's before factoring in what we spend anyway on Medicare/Medicaid.
EDIT: And if you don't believe me look up the various special reports on US citizens flying to India to receive medical care.
This country scares the fuck out of me with its ruthless capitalistic mentality! The finance guys control everything, the masses are placated by materialism, and the politicians are cowards for whom there aren't enough good citizens in the country to be held accountable to.
Oh yea, and then there are those people who often fall into the realm of Republican/conservative. Wow. What a breed unto itself. These people are like some ogrish mix of stupid and evil that just raises one's hairs. Not all, but the kind of people I'm talking about tend to vote ballots that way, certainly.
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Netherlands
I love our beautiful cities and we have some decent nature and villages.
Our social measures like public health care are very good.
We have pretty good public transit.
My only real concern with Holland:
-People taking the easy way and blaming foreigners and taking generally extremely right wing positions due to things going worse. (People in our country have no idea how good they have it lol.) Im so sick of short sighted ignorant political measures. Everyone is so fucking eager to deport any criminal who has a double passport or other nationality as if our responsibility magically ends there. Meanwhile Polish people are supposedly stealing our jobs and other ancient cliche's are being thrown around. They should teach people in schools that our responsibility extends to anyone within Dutch borders and that these dumb cliché's are a detriment to our society. People are completely overestimating minorities and alienating so many people who DO belong here. Right wing voters are of the dumbest kind. Violence and authority has NEVER solved these kind of problems which basically every history book ever will tell you.
-The joint fucking strike fighter, the army needs to shove this thing up it's ass and get kicked the hell out of Holland. I am so sick of the secretary of defense and general Dick Berlijn spreading their dumbass arguments around about why we need to spend BILLIONS on 2 incredibly expensive planes in the middle of an economic recession. And now those douchebags are using the argument that if we don't go through with it we will lose ~900 million. The whole thing has been a campaign of lies from the start. Spend them on some modern helicopters and ground troops who are actually of any use to our troops. There is no point in having 2 hyper modern jets when we still have functional saabs and f16's while the advantage of having these 2 are made completely useless simply by the sheer size of other countries. Holland does not need to partake in some dumb arms race right now.
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re: canada
how do you guys deal with the winter up there? i spent new years and early january in montreal and each time i had to go outside at ~3am to go home, i almost died. awesome city but terrifyingly cold.
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USA
Dislikes:
dumb white people
Likes:
the freedom to make fun of said dumb white people
More seriously, I really dislike the emphasis on physicality and consumption that American culture has. Money and great body = set for life, amirite?!?! Let's all get rich and famous and we'll all be happy as can be, and fuck all the naysayers because I can't be wrong, because accepting my faults is too hard. /rant
Even though I haven't experienced much of it, I guess the US' diversity is still something that you probably can't find anywhere else. Big plus.
Authentic foreign food. If you've got everyone here, you can probably find authentic food from any given culture here.
Higher education. We have some of the most prestigious universities in the world...kind of funny how that's working out for us, though. (George Bush + Yale = LOLWTF)
Blizzard.
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You get used to temperatures rather fast. For sure it's cold but afteer 2 years it's nothing special anymore.
I know some guys that moved from switzerland (*normal* winter -10° - 0°, summer 25-30° (Celsius) to Dubai.
First year: Hell on earth, like a fry pan :p (not fun if your not on holyday).
Second year: *Hot*.
Third year: Everything under 20 degrees feels cold, until at least 25+ degrees they wear *long* clothes.
I think this works the same with really cold places. Your body needs time to adjust until he "gets it".
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Any socialist measures we take are always tacked onto our private-sector approaches anyway, in a lame attempt to not disturb stat-quos and placate both sides. That's why our education (non-university level) and health care is so shitty compared to other industrialized nations and yet we pay so much more.
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