Although I seriously doubt this will work as well as they are claiming it will, I still hope this project turns out to be a success. If it does, it could very well singlehandedly revitalise the PC gaming industry. Assuming this technology can work the way they are claiming, it would remove a lot of the barriers and hassle people encounter when trying to delve into PC gaming.

BuGzlToOnl

United States5918 Posts

March 12 2010 05:19 GMT

#142

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8556874.stm

OnLive has been in development for eight years and will officially become available on June 17.

OnLive will be available for a monthly rental fee of $14.95 (£9.99) for subscribers to then buy or rent games over the internet.

Saturnize

United States2473 Posts

March 12 2010 05:24 GMT

#143

This sounds great to me. I love PC gaming but i have never had good enough hardware to run the best games out there. Hopefully this will enable me to run more of the newer games out there

Zack1900

United States211 Posts

March 12 2010 07:38 GMT

#144

I know I wouldn't be happy. If I can't watch 1080p videos without waiting to let them load before I start. I don't think that I would be able to play a game at a reasonably high resolution. Until stories like mine are only true under unusual circumstances I don't think an idea like this can work, but It would be nice to be able to play the new hot game on my (weak) laptop.

Too_MuchZerg

Finland2818 Posts

May 23 2010 16:42 GMT

#145

Seems like this service will start June 17th 2010, so soon. Wonder if they have SC2 as their selection. Oh and If check their facebook updates seems that many countries has been added to service.

http://www.facebook.com/OnLive

Shrewmy

Australia199 Posts

May 23 2010 16:46 GMT

#146

Unless they have servers running this within 100m from every household in the country then there will be noticeable lag.

You cannot violate the laws of physics.

This also has the potential to kill the PC hardware market, as there would never be any need to have anything more powerful than a laptop that can play video somewhat reasonably.

This would also never work in Australia, mostly due to the fact that our internet sucks, and that we have prohibitively expensive and controlled internet connections.

theSAiNT

United States726 Posts

May 23 2010 16:53 GMT

#147

On May 24 2010 01:46 Shrewmy wrote:
Unless they have servers running this within 100m from every household in the country then there will be noticeable lag.

You cannot violate the laws of physics.

I'm extremely skeptical. How exactly are they going to stream 1600x1200 resolution video to me while I upload inputs to the server with less than noticeable input lag?

Bear in mind that input lag on some bad LCD displays can go as high as 60ms and this is already very noticeable.

Maybe for Wii games...

Antisocialmunky

United States5912 Posts

May 23 2010 16:57 GMT

#148

Maybe in the Baltic States.

Djzapz

Canada10681 Posts

May 23 2010 17:03 GMT

#149

I know this is an old thread but since it got necro'd, might as well post. I can't wait to see what kind of magic they'll pull off for this to work. I won't get to try it myself (at first) because I'm in Canada, but I can't begin to think about how they're going to make it work.

They you can be 1000 miles away from a data center. The speed of light takes roughly 5ms to travel 1000 miles, so 10ms for the back and forth... So far it's doable but add the time it takes to render and read... Man their algorithm better be impressive because even if it takes something ridiculously fast like 15ms to compress and 5ms to read you're already at 30ms and in a FPS 30ms INPUT lag is massive.

And that's not to mention the bandwidth consumption of such a setup.

QuanticHawk

United States32148 Posts

May 23 2010 17:13 GMT

#150

im still skeptical.... i think most serious gamers--like us nerds here who go ballistic if SC isnt on lowest lat--will definitely notice some delay

lololol

5198 Posts

May 23 2010 17:17 GMT

#151

Input lag is the worst lag possible. I'm pretty sure this will feel horrible for anyone that is not new to gaming, unless they can achieve really really really low latency somehow.

Xxio

Canada5565 Posts

May 23 2010 17:18 GMT

#152

Wow, very interesting, I hope it lives up to expectations!
Thanks for bringing this to my attention, going to show my friends

Strayline

United States330 Posts

May 24 2010 02:40 GMT

#153

I think it's an idea whose time will come eventually (I'm imagined something like this before although not with the very cool "stream with crowd" idea) but I would be very impressed if they managed to pull it off with today's technology. It doesn't really seem possible to be honest.

510Sushi

Azerbaijan331 Posts

May 24 2010 05:22 GMT

#154

....if this works than i am more pumped than a blimp.. a really full blimp

Hansel

Germany311 Posts

May 25 2010 20:58 GMT

#155

Didnt read the whole thread so sorry if someone already poitned this out.
This is called cloud computing and is claimed to be the future of compters in general.
Best use for this is image processing software / video editing / 3d software at the moment.
Because a) you need a very good computer for this with good gpu & ram b) no high ping required (like for certain games). SO with a cheap comp you connect to a server cloud where all the programs are installed and use your device for input only.
Basically you are renting computer power :-).

Destro

Netherlands1206 Posts

May 25 2010 21:16 GMT

#156

i work in the 3d industry and there is something very similar out there for us where we can renter a computer farm to do massive renders that a single computer would take potentially months on. However this is not "instant" as onlive claims... im entirely skeptical. even if it works I cannot see the onlive user to have the competitive edge on a user using their own solid pc. This alone makes me just say meh, i rather spend the bucks every couple years for a new comp.

Hansel

Germany311 Posts

May 25 2010 21:20 GMT

#157

On May 26 2010 06:16 Destro wrote:
i work in the 3d industry and there is something very similar out there for us where we can renter a computer farm to do massive renders that a single computer would take potentially months on. However this is not "instant" as onlive claims... im entirely skeptical. even if it works I cannot see the onlive user to have the competitive edge on a user using their own solid pc. This alone makes me just say meh, i rather spend the bucks every couple years for a new comp.

Renderfarms are sth. similar as you rent the computer power & Programs on it. However you dont need a constant connection to the "cloud" or renderfarm as you can send your files via email as well :-).

The connection and amount of data it transports in a certain timeframe seems to be the basic problem, agree very much with you on the last part :-).

jacen

Austria3644 Posts

May 25 2010 21:23 GMT

#158

On May 24 2010 01:53 theSAiNT wrote:I'm extremely skeptical. How exactly are they going to stream 1600x1200 resolution video to me while I upload inputs to the server with less than noticeable input lag?

onlive offers
854x480p or 1280x720p (depending on subscription from what i last heard) at 30fps.
and there will be noticable input lag.

THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A SOLUTION FOR EVEN SEMI SERIOUS PC GAMERS!
they want to get console guys also beeing able to play pc games .. nothing more.

Destro

Netherlands1206 Posts

May 25 2010 21:28 GMT

#159

On May 26 2010 06:23 jacen wrote:

Show nested quote +

..... maybe blizzard should think about re-opening copper leagues... consol gamers using pads for sc2 would be so lol. Hell its not the first time blizzard ported an rts to console lol

Terrakin

United States1440 Posts

May 25 2010 21:34 GMT

#160

On May 26 2010 06:28 Destro wrote:

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..... maybe blizzard should think about re-opening copper leagues... consol gamers using pads for sc2 would be so lol. Hell its not the first time blizzard ported an rts to console lol

lol... it would be interesting, but I don't think it would ever bring anyone into the game competitively. Custom maps would be great with controller though.

Also console guys already have consoles, so I doubt they would get onlive for just playing the others systems exclusives (since they're not many besides nintendo)