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33 deaths now: http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/student-beheaded-at-v-tech/2009/01/23/1232471547330.html
You just wonder what is in their heads...very little is known about him at the moment, especially with regards to motive.
Not known to be mentally disturbed, wasn't arguing with her at the time, a PhD student and was obviously one of her friends.
School records showed that Haiyang was listed as one of Xin's emergency contacts.
Yet in broad daylight in a very public space, he decapitates an innocent girl with a kitchen knife seemingly unprompted.
What the fuck is going on?
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Yes this is the same massacre thus the death toll of the shootings from two years ago is rising...right...
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what the fuck are going through these people's heads..
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Australia3818 Posts
It's a horrible murder and it's at V-Tech, I didn't say it was part of the massacre - it's part of their death toll as a tertiary institution...beside the point. Main focus = the decapitation that just happened, not the title of the thread.
I almost said use your head.
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wtf... so he just decapitated her in a coffee shop or something? damn...
edit: reminds me of the article we had on here a while ago about the decapitation on that greyhound bus
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What? This guy is strong as jack bauer or he was using an axe and a base. No way in hell he just suddenly beheaded a full grown person with a kitchen knife.
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idk i think its possible if the knife was really sharp, or if by kitchen knife they meant butcher knife or something. This guy is a psychopath.
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What's with us Asians lately in North America.
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Man.. I've beaten people up before... and I mean bloodied them, but to stab - no - BEHEAD someone would be insaaaaaane. It would require so much hate and physical exertion.
Unbelievable. Acts like that are beyond the scope of forgiveness. You'd have to be a truly benevolent soul to forgive him.
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v-tech must actually be a satanic cult
just your standard sacrifice folks, move along now, nothing to see here
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On January 23 2009 14:04 MaZza[KIS] wrote: Man.. I've beaten people up before... and I mean bloodied them, but to stab - no - BEHEAD someone would be insaaaaaane. It would require so much hate and physical exertion.
Unbelievable. Acts like that are beyond the scope of forgiveness. You'd have to be a truly benevolent soul to forgive him.
well to me, beating someone bloody is insane
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ugh wtf is this shit
this is disgusting. must be quite scary; the massacre then this..
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I guess this isn't the type of thing to joke about.
I hate threads like this. So depressing. Not sure how people can get themselves to do this.
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Australia3818 Posts
I'm shocked...as always - I can't believe this ever happening, especially in such a setting...relaxed and peaceful most of the time.
Well, he had a kitchen knife with him...obviously it was planned to a degree. As things unfold I'm sure we'll find out more...hopefully not a fucked up video again. "You've got blood on your hands that will never wash off."
Often I enjoy a coffee with my friends, the 'brutally slay' mood never strikes.
Possibility of it being her refusing his sexual advances, yet not knowing he was a complete crazy?
Ps: What ever did happen with the bus-killing in Canada?
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Beacuse of the etnicity and the age of them this looks more like a crime of passion to me. Also this was done in daylight and in a public place, i dont see this being too much premeditated, yet this violence is horrible.
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I go to VT, and I'm fairly pissed off at how the administration handles this shit. I was about 400 feet from the building where this happened when it happened, and all I noticed out of the ordinary was an ambulance showing up. I walked back to my dorm, started watching a movie with some of my friends, and about 30 minutes later got an alert telling me there was a murder in the GLC and that we should stay where we are. But that was *all* they told us. Basically "you might be in danger, but we're not gonna give you any information that you could use to protect yourself with." They didn't even release the race of the suspect until 5 hours later. They tout their damn alert system as if its amazing, but its downright useless. All the alerts they give out are vague and don't tell you anything useful.
This isn't the first time they've sucked at giving out info either. Someone jumped out of the 7th floor window of my dorm last year, and it took them *36* hours to even email us telling us that something had happened (and they were very vague about that), even though there was a dead body lying outside the front door. I find it absolutely despicable that newspapers 30+ minutes away get information on this stuff faster than the students that go to the damn school.
Enough of my ranting though. This murder is fairly unbelievable. The place it happened is rarely visited by anyone other than graduate students, and is fairly quiet. On top of that, the girl listed her murderer as an emergency contact. Makes no fucking sense atm, but they won't release anything before they go to court.
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I feel horrible that something like this happened, and even more that it happened at a place of "higher education." I hope her family can find the best possible peace they can.
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That's an interesting article, but it doesn't really describe much about the actual attack, mostly just background information about it. I guess there's still a lot that's left unknown, but I was curious as to what exactly happened. It's no easy task to decapitate someone with a kitchen knife, let alone in a cafe on a college campus. That would be very hard to do without anyone seeing or hearing anything, and it said that calls were made to the police (who responded very quickly apparently), so I'm very interested in knowing what triggered those calls and either how the attacker finished the job that fast or how he was able to do as much as he did before the calls were made without drawing attention to himself.
Regardless, this is a terrible thing and it's a shame that this school has to suffer even more trauma such as this
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Wow, really misleading title. I thought another shootout happened.
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Australia3818 Posts
On January 23 2009 14:21 tec27 wrote: I go to VT, and I'm fairly pissed off at how the administration handles this shit. I was about 400 feet from the building where this happened when it happened, and all I noticed out of the ordinary was an ambulance showing up. I walked back to my dorm, started watching a movie with some of my friends, and about 30 minutes later got an alert telling me there was a murder in the GLC and that we should stay where we are. But that was *all* they told us. Basically "you might be in danger, but we're not gonna give you any information that you could use to protect yourself with." They didn't even release the race of the suspect until 5 hours later. They tout their damn alert system as if its amazing, but its downright useless. All the alerts they give out are vague and don't tell you anything useful.
This isn't the first time they've sucked at giving out info either. Someone jumped out of the 7th floor window of my dorm last year, and it took them *36* hours to even email us telling us that something had happened (and they were very vague about that), even though there was a dead body lying outside the front door. I find it absolutely despicable that newspapers 30+ minutes away get information on this stuff faster than the students that go to the damn school.
Enough of my ranting though. This murder is fairly unbelievable. The place it happened is rarely visited by anyone other than graduate students, and is fairly quiet. On top of that, the girl listed her murderer as an emergency contact. Makes no fucking sense atm, but they won't release anything before they go to court. Yeah, I'd say either way people are going to panic - especially after what has happened previously at V-Tech...better to release details of the threat-level and the nature of the crime and if the suspect is at large and so forth.
I suppose they think it might be panic prevention by not whipping people up into a frenzy, but as I mentioned it's not really going to work here. They obviously knew what happened, and didn't need to release all the details, but people are immediately going to assume the worst.
Full-coverage (especially for people within the immediate vicinity) and reports (within reason) would be more useful in this situation imo.
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This is the bad kind of irony; the kind nobody thinks is clever or funny.
This sucks.
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On January 23 2009 14:21 tec27 wrote: Someone jumped out of the 7th floor window of my dorm last year, What the fuck is wrong with that school?
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On January 23 2009 14:05 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:04 MaZza[KIS] wrote: Man.. I've beaten people up before... and I mean bloodied them, but to stab - no - BEHEAD someone would be insaaaaaane. It would require so much hate and physical exertion.
Unbelievable. Acts like that are beyond the scope of forgiveness. You'd have to be a truly benevolent soul to forgive him. well to me, beating someone bloody is insane
yes, but then you didn't grow up in a war torn country did you?
It was beat someone up or get beat up. Due to lack of parenting (fathers at war, mothers at work) children "managed" their own interactions. We weren't very ... hmmm.. how should I put it .. "experienced" at the age of 6. 4 years of that kind of environment and you learn to look after yourself. Even after we migrated to Australia I remember a lot of that stuff still used to happen. I sympathize with the African-American's for that simple reason. If my "idol" was 2pac and I had no daddy to keep me in check, I KNOW I'd grow up a thug too. In fact, I WAS a thug until education got to me. Thank god it did.
Still can't process beheading someone tho. That's beyond the scope of my experiences and wildest nightmares.
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its actually really easy to behead someone, i've cut a head of a deer once and shit its REALLY easy and goes super quick. if the knife is sharp its just chop chop.
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On January 23 2009 14:28 Smurg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:21 tec27 wrote: I go to VT, and I'm fairly pissed off at how the administration handles this shit. I was about 400 feet from the building where this happened when it happened, and all I noticed out of the ordinary was an ambulance showing up. I walked back to my dorm, started watching a movie with some of my friends, and about 30 minutes later got an alert telling me there was a murder in the GLC and that we should stay where we are. But that was *all* they told us. Basically "you might be in danger, but we're not gonna give you any information that you could use to protect yourself with." They didn't even release the race of the suspect until 5 hours later. They tout their damn alert system as if its amazing, but its downright useless. All the alerts they give out are vague and don't tell you anything useful.
This isn't the first time they've sucked at giving out info either. Someone jumped out of the 7th floor window of my dorm last year, and it took them *36* hours to even email us telling us that something had happened (and they were very vague about that), even though there was a dead body lying outside the front door. I find it absolutely despicable that newspapers 30+ minutes away get information on this stuff faster than the students that go to the damn school.
Enough of my ranting though. This murder is fairly unbelievable. The place it happened is rarely visited by anyone other than graduate students, and is fairly quiet. On top of that, the girl listed her murderer as an emergency contact. Makes no fucking sense atm, but they won't release anything before they go to court. Yeah, I'd say either way people are going to panic - especially after what has happened previously at V-Tech...better to release details of the threat-level and the nature of the crime and if the suspect is at large and so forth. I suppose they think it might be panic prevention by not whipping people up into a frenzy, but as I mentioned it's not really going to work here. They obviously knew what happened, and didn't need to release all the details, but people are immediately going to assume the worst. Full-coverage (especially for people within the immediate vicinity) and reports (within reason) would be more useful in this situation imo. Yeah. I'd say people panic either way, and I'd much rather have the information either way. At least then people would have a reason to panic, and information they could use to better prepare themselves. Last night, we didn't even know how the murder happened, and I'd say knowing whether it was a shooting or a stabbing is pretty damn important to me.
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Asians are gonna get such a bad rep. That is sick to do though, wtf
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wow I was expecting a funny thread having something to do with taht "v-tech has been doing this for years" meme.
Kinda the opposite of funny =[
that is just nuts.
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Australia3818 Posts
On January 23 2009 14:38 tec27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:28 Smurg wrote:On January 23 2009 14:21 tec27 wrote: I go to VT, and I'm fairly pissed off at how the administration handles this shit. I was about 400 feet from the building where this happened when it happened, and all I noticed out of the ordinary was an ambulance showing up. I walked back to my dorm, started watching a movie with some of my friends, and about 30 minutes later got an alert telling me there was a murder in the GLC and that we should stay where we are. But that was *all* they told us. Basically "you might be in danger, but we're not gonna give you any information that you could use to protect yourself with." They didn't even release the race of the suspect until 5 hours later. They tout their damn alert system as if its amazing, but its downright useless. All the alerts they give out are vague and don't tell you anything useful.
This isn't the first time they've sucked at giving out info either. Someone jumped out of the 7th floor window of my dorm last year, and it took them *36* hours to even email us telling us that something had happened (and they were very vague about that), even though there was a dead body lying outside the front door. I find it absolutely despicable that newspapers 30+ minutes away get information on this stuff faster than the students that go to the damn school.
Enough of my ranting though. This murder is fairly unbelievable. The place it happened is rarely visited by anyone other than graduate students, and is fairly quiet. On top of that, the girl listed her murderer as an emergency contact. Makes no fucking sense atm, but they won't release anything before they go to court. Yeah, I'd say either way people are going to panic - especially after what has happened previously at V-Tech...better to release details of the threat-level and the nature of the crime and if the suspect is at large and so forth. I suppose they think it might be panic prevention by not whipping people up into a frenzy, but as I mentioned it's not really going to work here. They obviously knew what happened, and didn't need to release all the details, but people are immediately going to assume the worst. Full-coverage (especially for people within the immediate vicinity) and reports (within reason) would be more useful in this situation imo. Yeah. I'd say people panic either way, and I'd much rather have the information either way. At least then people would have a reason to panic, and information they could use to better prepare themselves. Last night, we didn't even know how the murder happened, and I'd say knowing whether it was a shooting or a stabbing is pretty damn important to me. Yeah, a point I forgot to include...it's the most important factor, knowing how the murder occured.
You could relax about 10 notches knowing it was a knife related death. As horrible as it is to be able to relax after a horrible murder has occured.
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How do you go from talking normally over coffee to cutting somebody's head off? And not only that, but somebody you've known for a while, and somebody who probably trusted you.
This is getting insane...
Feel bad for the family too, since she just arrived from Beijing. Going to be a big shock...
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On January 23 2009 14:04 koreasilver wrote: What's with us Asians lately in North America.
You are fucking stupid bro.
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How the FUCK do you behead someone with a kitchen knife?!?!!
He must have had inhuman strength, or spent like 15 minutes just sawing at it omfg. omfg omfg.
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On January 23 2009 14:55 Fontong wrote: How the FUCK do you behead someone with a kitchen knife?!?!!
He must have had inhuman strength, or spent like 15 minutes just sawing at it omfg. omfg omfg.
ITS REALLY EASY DUDE pull AND STAB
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JIJIyO
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Fucking disgusting.......makes me sick. These people are so messed up. How does this even cross their mind? No need to answer, just wanted to vent. Mental problems, trauma, etc can cause these actions, but still.......it's incredibly sickening. Dammit. Life is tough shit =/
Edit: Also sucks how the girl just wanted to continue her education and probably expected a peaceful life at V-Tech, then some nut job does that. Fuck these people. Seriously.
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makes me scared to be at college T_T
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On January 23 2009 14:57 MarklarMarklar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:55 Fontong wrote: How the FUCK do you behead someone with a kitchen knife?!?!!
He must have had inhuman strength, or spent like 15 minutes just sawing at it omfg. omfg omfg. ITS REALLY EASY DUDE pull AND STAB
On January 23 2009 14:37 MarklarMarklar wrote: its actually really easy to behead someone, i've cut a head of a deer once and shit its REALLY easy and goes super quick. if the knife is sharp its just chop chop.
seek help immediately
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On January 23 2009 14:45 BalliSLife wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:04 koreasilver wrote: What's with us Asians lately in North America. You are fucking stupid bro.
Why would you call him stupid?
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What's with us stupid TLers that use Terran avatars not understanding the stupidness of overgeneralization?
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Wow what a disgrace to Chinese people.
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This is why dont go to college. You gonna die easily and have to learn shit. i dropped out in high school and I am as happy as ever. Im planning to move to alaska in 2 months and live there in the wild.
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On January 23 2009 15:10 Ichigo1234551 wrote: This is why dont go to college. You gonna die easily and have to learn shit. i dropped out in high school and I am as happy as ever. Im planning to move to alaska in 2 months and live there in the wild. No dangers in the wild after all.
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On January 23 2009 15:10 Ichigo1234551 wrote: This is why dont go to college. You gonna die easily and have to learn shit. i dropped out in high school and I am as happy as ever. Im planning to move to alaska in 2 months and live there in the wild.
lol
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Something's in their water... -____-;;
The times are getting whack.
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On January 23 2009 15:13 Smurg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 15:10 Ichigo1234551 wrote: This is why dont go to college. You gonna die easily and have to learn shit. i dropped out in high school and I am as happy as ever. Im planning to move to alaska in 2 months and live there in the wild. No dangers in the wild after all.
smurg, take me to the outback
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On January 23 2009 14:37 MaZza[KIS] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:05 travis wrote:On January 23 2009 14:04 MaZza[KIS] wrote: Man.. I've beaten people up before... and I mean bloodied them, but to stab - no - BEHEAD someone would be insaaaaaane. It would require so much hate and physical exertion.
Unbelievable. Acts like that are beyond the scope of forgiveness. You'd have to be a truly benevolent soul to forgive him. well to me, beating someone bloody is insane yes, but then you didn't grow up in a war torn country did you? It was beat someone up or get beat up. Due to lack of parenting (fathers at war, mothers at work) children "managed" their own interactions. We weren't very ... hmmm.. how should I put it .. "experienced" at the age of 6. 4 years of that kind of environment and you learn to look after yourself. Even after we migrated to Australia I remember a lot of that stuff still used to happen. I sympathize with the African-American's for that simple reason. If my "idol" was 2pac and I had no daddy to keep me in check, I KNOW I'd grow up a thug too. In fact, I WAS a thug until education got to me. Thank god it did. Still can't process beheading someone tho. That's beyond the scope of my experiences and wildest nightmares.
Born a Spartan, mauled that boy with your bare hands as he was undeserving of the same air, you threw yourself unarmed and naked into the savage and unforgiving enviroment of hip hop music and african americans. After years of hardening and testing with no parents to guide your steps, you finally confronted the untamed, murderous and evil 2pac to return made a king to your proud australian warriors who would from that point obey your words with blood and honor!
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On January 23 2009 15:22 Cloud wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:37 MaZza[KIS] wrote:On January 23 2009 14:05 travis wrote:On January 23 2009 14:04 MaZza[KIS] wrote: Man.. I've beaten people up before... and I mean bloodied them, but to stab - no - BEHEAD someone would be insaaaaaane. It would require so much hate and physical exertion.
Unbelievable. Acts like that are beyond the scope of forgiveness. You'd have to be a truly benevolent soul to forgive him. well to me, beating someone bloody is insane yes, but then you didn't grow up in a war torn country did you? It was beat someone up or get beat up. Due to lack of parenting (fathers at war, mothers at work) children "managed" their own interactions. We weren't very ... hmmm.. how should I put it .. "experienced" at the age of 6. 4 years of that kind of environment and you learn to look after yourself. Even after we migrated to Australia I remember a lot of that stuff still used to happen. I sympathize with the African-American's for that simple reason. If my "idol" was 2pac and I had no daddy to keep me in check, I KNOW I'd grow up a thug too. In fact, I WAS a thug until education got to me. Thank god it did. Still can't process beheading someone tho. That's beyond the scope of my experiences and wildest nightmares. Born a Spartan, mauled that boy with your bare hands as he was undeserving of the same air, you threw yourself unarmed and naked into the savage and unforgiving enviroment of hip hop music and african americans. After years of hardening and testing with no parents to guide your steps, you finally confronted the untamed, murderous and evil 2pac to return made a king to your proud australian warriors who would from that point obey your words with blood and honor! wut?
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On January 23 2009 15:18 thedeadhaji wrote:smurg, take me to the outback 
Strewth haji! Let's hunt some roo's and climb up Uluru!
I prefer my tame coastal existence, the outback would be fun though I suppose - if you bring lots of water, sun screen and a rifle for hunting pesky dingoes. (Before they pinch any babies that may be in the vicinity...and that may belong to you.)
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On January 23 2009 15:10 YianKutKu wrote: Wow what a disgrace to Chinese people.
Not as bad as the korean guy killing 36 people.
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gosh this is could turn into a bash china thread, i just know hope so
where's incontrol by the way
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On January 23 2009 15:02 BalliSLife wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:57 MarklarMarklar wrote:On January 23 2009 14:55 Fontong wrote: How the FUCK do you behead someone with a kitchen knife?!?!!
He must have had inhuman strength, or spent like 15 minutes just sawing at it omfg. omfg omfg. ITS REALLY EASY DUDE pull AND STAB Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:37 MarklarMarklar wrote: its actually really easy to behead someone, i've cut a head of a deer once and shit its REALLY easy and goes super quick. if the knife is sharp its just chop chop. seek help immediately Why? He didn't do it. His vic was a deer. Those things kill themselves all the time here by jumping in front of cars. Now, applying his experience with deer to what happened here is a little disturbing, but that's because the whole situation is disturbing.
And the location of the attack and the continent of origin of the attacker make for an unfortunate coincidence. Hopefully we don't get a lot of people drawing conclusions from two unrelated data points 
So, does this happen at other schools ever? Are we only hearing about this because of what happened there before, or the brutality of this attack? I hope these occurences are as seldom as I've believed.
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He probably wanted to scare her, and just pushed way too hard with the knife. This obviously wasn't a premeditated thing like the shooting was. Probably just a case of a guy getting waaaaay too obsessed over a girl.
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Any one here read Crime and Punishment?
Hmm
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On January 23 2009 15:38 Luddite wrote: He probably wanted to scare her, and just pushed way too hard with the knife. This obviously wasn't a premeditated thing like the shooting was. Probably just a case of a guy getting waaaaay too obsessed over a girl. I dunno, I can't see a good reason to have a kitchen knife in that area. But I also don't think it was too premeditated, but maybe a bit.
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There's something in the water there.
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On January 23 2009 15:38 Luddite wrote: He probably wanted to scare her, and just pushed way too hard with the knife. This obviously wasn't a premeditated thing like the shooting was. Probably just a case of a guy getting waaaaay too obsessed over a girl. It probably wasn't premeditated, and that makes it more likely that it actually really was a kitchen knife.
I don't understand whats going on.....a beheading is just wtf. Step back and think about it.
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Since Kaine has been governor, the family values of University students has gone in the wrong direction. Its about time we impeach Kaine and bring someone in who can restore the values and traditions that will prevent cases like these from occurring ever again.
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On January 23 2009 15:50 hacpee wrote: Since Kaine has been governor, the family values of University students has gone in the wrong direction. Its about time we impeach Kaine and bring someone in who can restore the values and traditions that will prevent cases like these from occurring ever again. Seriously, shut the fuck up. This has jack shit to do with who is governor and you know it. I can assure you VT is an incredibly nice and accepting campus, and these events are certainly not representative of the school as a whole.
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On January 23 2009 15:50 hacpee wrote: Since Kaine has been governor, the family values of University students has gone in the wrong direction. Its about time we impeach Kaine and bring someone in who can restore the values and traditions that will prevent cases like these from occurring ever again.
Lol it's impossible man, so far this person has no mental problems he just snapped.
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On January 23 2009 14:00 Cloud wrote: What? This guy is strong as jack bauer or he was using an axe and a base. No way in hell he just suddenly beheaded a full grown person with a kitchen knife. actually, you can if you pin the person down using your boots and just carve it away.... well hacking is easier.
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On January 23 2009 15:10 Ichigo1234551 wrote: This is why dont go to college. You gonna die easily and have to learn shit. i dropped out in high school and I am as happy as ever. Im planning to move to alaska in 2 months and live there in the wild. LOLLLLL sarcasm i hope. say hi to the grizzlys for me.
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On January 23 2009 15:57 Raithed wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:00 Cloud wrote: What? This guy is strong as jack bauer or he was using an axe and a base. No way in hell he just suddenly beheaded a full grown person with a kitchen knife. actually, you can if you pin the person down using your boots and just carve it away.... well hacking is easier.
Holding them with your feet with no previous stabbings? Hacking with a kitchen knife and nobody to tell the horror of that?
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I can't believe you guys are still debating about whether it's possible to do this. This guy did it, so obviously it can be done.
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i thought this was the ums
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Australia3818 Posts
I wonder when there will be updates on this story.
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I'd imagine not til after the guy appears in court again. Most of the stories I read said the State lawyers told them not to give any more details until then. Can't figure out what could be so unusual/important to keep secret like that, but who knows.
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Jesus christ. To behead somone with a kitchen knife.. thats just insanity. It means he cut her or stabbed her the first time, would have been showered with blood and then kept goin. As soon as he hits one of her carotid arteries, the amount of blood would have been insane. To keep cutting? Guy needs to be locked up and never released because he is NOT fit for interactions with people.
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I hate it when people kill for no reason. There has got to be a motive.
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Ugh how you could you possibly bring yourself to decapitate another human being unless you were mentally imbalanced in a very serious way
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On January 23 2009 14:37 MaZza[KIS] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:05 travis wrote:On January 23 2009 14:04 MaZza[KIS] wrote: Man.. I've beaten people up before... and I mean bloodied them, but to stab - no - BEHEAD someone would be insaaaaaane. It would require so much hate and physical exertion.
Unbelievable. Acts like that are beyond the scope of forgiveness. You'd have to be a truly benevolent soul to forgive him. well to me, beating someone bloody is insane yes, but then you didn't grow up in a war torn country did you? It was beat someone up or get beat up. Due to lack of parenting (fathers at war, mothers at work) children "managed" their own interactions. We weren't very ... hmmm.. how should I put it .. "experienced" at the age of 6. 4 years of that kind of environment and you learn to look after yourself. Even after we migrated to Australia I remember a lot of that stuff still used to happen. I sympathize with the African-American's for that simple reason. If my "idol" was 2pac and I had no daddy to keep me in check, I KNOW I'd grow up a thug too. In fact, I WAS a thug until education got to me. Thank god it did. Still can't process beheading someone tho. That's beyond the scope of my experiences and wildest nightmares.
MaZza[KIS] im wondering, which country are you from? I am from former jugoslavia, and i'm just lucky that my family migrated to canada before the civil war broke down.
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That's some fucked up shit. She didn't get to live the university party life before she got her head chopped off.
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This story is so sad It sucks that it happened and even worse at V-Tech they've had enough suffering.
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There's something about that school. . .
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On January 23 2009 20:55 meathook wrote: There's something about that school. . .
You can say that again. I ain't going to V-Tech no matter what.
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Um I also go to Virginia Tech and like tec27 I'm kinda disappointed in the warning system that we have here. I ended up finding out about it only through emails a few hours after the fact. When I did look at my inbox there was like 10 different messages from assorted faculty just forwarding the same message to different email lists. Also we have some sort of VT alerts system but is fairly poorly implemented. They made it so that if you register for classes on "hokie spa" you would be forced to either setup a VT alert account for your cell phone or decline the service before registering for classes. This was a perfectly fine feature except for the fact that you can also register for classes on the "myVT" website and never see the warning for VT alerts.
After this thing I finally have the VT alert thing setup for my phone since I figured I should get it and it would keep me in the know faster. I use myVT for registering and stuff so I didnt have it setup before.
Also our school is fine and this is not reason enough to avoid going to college here or anywhere. It is just an unfortunate reality that crazy people exist and that two of them just happened to end up going to school at VT.
edit:grammar errors. there are still a couple but i just fixed the big ones
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"V-tech , we've been doin' it for years"
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this is fucking sad and disgraceful, i feel horrible for v-tech university as a whole
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even a kid can decapited a grown human with a knife. remembert the video of taliban kid beheading a spy? that kid was only 14 or something. so it proved that its possible to behead someone with kitchen knife. and shit that murderer can go to hell.
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when i was at the army i saw a video of some iraqis or afghans cutting of a hand from their hostage the small knife went literally through like a hot knife through snow (and it was disturbing to watch oO) so i think it's pretty possible to cut off a human head and i don't think you have to hold the person down with your boot ...you could just kill the person by cutting the jugulars and then do the rest but enough of the "technical aspects"
in general this incident is a really bad thing to happen i feel sorry for the girl
@randomKo_Orean could you explain why it is disrespect to the victim's family to show her photo in public? i'm not familiar with your culture and i can't comprehend why
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On January 23 2009 23:08 drowned wrote: when i was at the army i saw a video of some iraqis or afghans cutting of a hand from their hostage the small knife went literally through like a hot knife through snow (and it was disturbing to watch oO) so i think it's pretty possible to cut off a human head and i don't think you have to hold the person down with your boot ...you could just kill the person by cutting the jugulars and then do the rest but enough of the "technical aspects"
in general this incident is a really bad thing to happen i feel sorry for the girl
@randomKo_Orean could you explain why it is disrespect to the victim's family to show her photo in public? i'm not familiar with your culture and i can't comprehend why
why did the army show you those videos? lol to psyche you out or something?
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On January 23 2009 14:11 malongo wrote: Beacuse of the etnicity and the age of them this looks more like a crime of passion to me. Also this was done in daylight and in a public place, i dont see this being too much premeditated, yet this violence is horrible.
But COME ON, beheading? That's a bit more than a crime of passion. -_-
God this is fucking sick, what the hell is wrong with these people?
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On January 23 2009 14:45 BalliSLife wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:04 koreasilver wrote: What's with us Asians lately in North America. You are fucking stupid bro. It was a half-joke pointed at how there was also a decapitation done by some other Chinese guy on a Greyhound up here in Canada not too long ago.
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On January 23 2009 23:17 KingofHearts wrote: why did the army show you those videos? lol to psyche you out or something?
ah, no the vid was shown to me by a fellow soldier the instructors gave us only some pictures (including a boy who stepped on a mine and a guy overrun by a truck)
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If it truly is not a premeditated murder, how can that guy possibly just grab a knife and just randomly decapitate someone without thinking, "oh wait."? You'd have to be just downright sick and twisted to do something like that.
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On January 23 2009 15:57 Raithed wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:00 Cloud wrote: What? This guy is strong as jack bauer or he was using an axe and a base. No way in hell he just suddenly beheaded a full grown person with a kitchen knife. actually, you can if you pin the person down using your boots and just carve it away.... well hacking is easier.
raithed is an expert on this topic!
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On January 24 2009 00:10 Apex wrote: If it truly is not a premeditated murder, how can that guy possibly just grab a knife and just randomly decapitate someone without thinking, "oh wait."? You'd have to be just downright sick and twisted to do something like that.
According to your definitions premeditated murder can't exist. :p Considering any murder is sick and twisted. I don't think the killer was too preoccupied with morality when he beheaded someone.
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I'll just stay away from azns in my uni from now on, though I think in Europe they don't tend to go as crazy
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On January 24 2009 00:17 Naib wrote: I'll just stay away from azns in my uni from now on, though I think in Europe they don't tend to go as crazy
um...dnetprotovsk (something like that) maniacs ><?
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On January 24 2009 00:17 Naib wrote: I'll just stay away from azns in my uni from now on, though I think in Europe they don't tend to go as crazy
Are you honestly using this as an excuse to persue your racist beliefs or are you really this retarded?
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I totally thought this thread was about Honda motors, but yeah I'm so glad I don't talk to the Chinese girl that I dated anymore. Fuckin freaky, fuck, fuck. Fuck.
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The victim Xin Yang
The "suspect" Haiyang Zhu
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On January 24 2009 00:10 Apex wrote: If it truly is not a premeditated murder, how can that guy possibly just grab a knife and just randomly decapitate someone without thinking, "oh wait."? You'd have to be just downright sick and twisted to do something like that.
Like I said, I can't see this not being at least somewhat premeditated. There is absolutely no good reason to have a sharp knife where he was. They were in ABP, which is basically like a coffee/pastry/etc. cafe, and the sharpest knife they have around in there (other than in their kitchen, which is not easily accessible) is a butter knife. I don't honestly believe the guy was just carrying around a kitchen knife for no apparent reason.
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Sad thing is, his lawyers are problaly going to sucessfully stop him from being deported on the grounds of execution back in China.
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V-Tech needs to invest in better security:
Anyways, that's two beheadings in (relatively) recent news and both done by Chinese men who had recently relocated to North America. I wish there was some kind of explanation, but it's kind of tough to explain crazy.
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On January 24 2009 01:03 Flaccid wrote: Anyways, that's two beheadings in (relatively) recent news and both done by Chinese men who had recently relocated to North America. I wish there was some kind of explanation, but it's kind of tough to explain crazy.
pointed out well dude  blame usa *cough*
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
There's a crazy Asian guy in our school, I fucking hope he doesn't flip one day too. I'm Asian too, but "normal"
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I meant to actually post something useful, but didn't.
Anyways, this is a nice article that does something to explain how shitty it is being a young man growing up in China these days.
And here is another fun article about stress and violence becoming more and more prevalent in Chinese culture.
I'd probably want to go head-hunting too.
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On January 23 2009 14:05 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 14:04 MaZza[KIS] wrote: Man.. I've beaten people up before... and I mean bloodied them, but to stab - no - BEHEAD someone would be insaaaaaane. It would require so much hate and physical exertion.
Unbelievable. Acts like that are beyond the scope of forgiveness. You'd have to be a truly benevolent soul to forgive him. well to me, beating someone bloody is insane
It only takes one hit to make someone bloody. I punched a guy in the face for kicking me in mine once, and he was bleeding like crazy from his nose. It's not that hard to do.
This is really insane, though. So many brutal murders have taken place over the last couple of years.. it's incomprehensible to me.
On January 23 2009 15:00 Sunyveil wrote: makes me scared to be at college T_T
Are you kidding? It happened at a coffee shop on campus. It's as likely to happen at work miles away from college as it is to happen at college. Being scared because some random nutjob (who is now in custody) killed someone is completely irrational. Could it happen? Yes, but it is so incredibly unlikely that there is no need to be scared.
On January 24 2009 00:26 Alizee- wrote: I totally thought this thread was about Honda motors, but yeah I'm so glad I don't talk to the Chinese girl that I dated anymore. Fuckin freaky, fuck, fuck. Fuck.
I thought it was about Honda too. I was like "Since when did V-techs kill people?"
On January 23 2009 14:11 malongo wrote: Beacuse of the etnicity and the age of them this looks more like a crime of passion to me. Also this was done in daylight and in a public place, i dont see this being too much premeditated, yet this violence is horrible.
Uhh, he was in a coffee shop with a really sharp knife. Either he works there, or he was planning to use that knife (I'm assuming they have some pretty sharp knives there in the kitchen area). It was almost certainly premeditated. If not, explain the possession of a kitchen knife well outside the kitchen.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
You run faster with a knife?
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JIJIyO
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On January 24 2009 03:21 ahswtini wrote: You run faster with a knife? Fuck.......this got me because it was so random.
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On January 24 2009 00:26 Alizee- wrote: I totally thought this thread was about Honda motors, but yeah I'm so glad I don't talk to the Chinese girl that I dated anymore. Fuckin freaky, fuck, fuck. Fuck. I don't think it is because he was Chinese that this happened, people are just China bashing again just because of one crazy guy.
Where the hell is Kissblade when you need him, that guy needs to get unbanned real fast.
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Holy crap, I was almost tempted to use a pun but I think I'll restrain 
Also wtf is wrong with Asians over at V tech?
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V tech just runs bad 
how sad this news is.
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On January 24 2009 03:31 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2009 00:26 Alizee- wrote: I totally thought this thread was about Honda motors, but yeah I'm so glad I don't talk to the Chinese girl that I dated anymore. Fuckin freaky, fuck, fuck. Fuck. I don't think it is because he was Chinese that this happened, people are just China bashing again just because of one crazy guy. Where the hell is Kissblade when you need him, that guy needs to get unbanned real fast.
Why is US bashing so acceptable when stuff like this happens, but China bashing is not? [Not necessarily directed at you.]
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On January 24 2009 01:03 Flaccid wrote: V-Tech needs to invest in better security:
Anyways, that's two beheadings in (relatively) recent news and both done by Chinese men who had recently relocated to North America. I wish there was some kind of explanation, but it's kind of tough to explain crazy.
Can you give a link to the other one?
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Man, this is really terrible.
On January 24 2009 01:03 Flaccid wrote: Anyways, that's two beheadings in (relatively) recent news and both done by Chinese men who had recently relocated to North America. I wish there was some kind of explanation, but it's kind of tough to explain crazy.
Yeah, many of the immigrants who come by themselves have a really hard time getting adjusted/back up on their feet. It kinda tends to mess with them.
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this world just gets worse and worse.....
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On January 24 2009 05:05 il0seonpurpose wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2009 01:03 Flaccid wrote: V-Tech needs to invest in better security:
Anyways, that's two beheadings in (relatively) recent news and both done by Chinese men who had recently relocated to North America. I wish there was some kind of explanation, but it's kind of tough to explain crazy. Can you give a link to the other one?
sure
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This is serious and I can only wonder what could be going on in someone's life that they would do something like this.... That said I thought this was going to be about those little education video game things.
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God that's fucking disgusting.
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On January 24 2009 00:25 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2009 00:17 Naib wrote: I'll just stay away from azns in my uni from now on, though I think in Europe they don't tend to go as crazy Are you honestly using this as an excuse to persue your racist beliefs or are you really this retarded?
Willing to get yourself self-owned again? Did that sound serious to you? Oh wait, you're Frits. I rest my case here...
On a serious note, news like this are sick.
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He was probably just ronery.
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This is sad shit, but does anyone think he sorta looks like pj? i'm not racist i am chinese myself too just to make that clear.
From today
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28808916/
Belgian knifes 3 people at daycare
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I wonder what her facial expression was when she died i mean- for forensics; not some crude taste of humor if she's in shock then they probably fought or something and if shes smiling then... she just didn't expect it ? + friends etc. Strange how she was on his emergency list...
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hes a PhD student... so obviously hes got some permanent head damage.
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On January 24 2009 03:31 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2009 00:26 Alizee- wrote: I totally thought this thread was about Honda motors, but yeah I'm so glad I don't talk to the Chinese girl that I dated anymore. Fuckin freaky, fuck, fuck. Fuck. I don't think it is because he was Chinese that this happened, people are just China bashing again just because of one crazy guy. Where the hell is Kissblade when you need him, that guy needs to get unbanned real fast.
Kissblade got banned? For any specific post?
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On January 24 2009 11:20 fearus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2009 03:31 Fontong wrote:On January 24 2009 00:26 Alizee- wrote: I totally thought this thread was about Honda motors, but yeah I'm so glad I don't talk to the Chinese girl that I dated anymore. Fuckin freaky, fuck, fuck. Fuck. I don't think it is because he was Chinese that this happened, people are just China bashing again just because of one crazy guy. Where the hell is Kissblade when you need him, that guy needs to get unbanned real fast. Kissblade got banned? For any specific post? It was the ban of the week:
KissBlade was just temp banned for 1 week by Kennigit.
That account was created on 2004-10-17 15:30:15 and had 822 posts.
Reason: This is either trolling or nationalistic bullshit - stop posting about it. Also i hate chinese people ching chong ping pong pao tao mao zao. He made a thread about China bashing.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=86183
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I remember V-Tech was like the #1 ladder player about 6 years ago. Same guy???
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On January 24 2009 11:36 StimD wrote: I remember V-Tech was like the #1 ladder player about 6 years ago. Same guy???
Yes, same guy.
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On January 24 2009 11:36 StimD wrote: I remember V-Tech was like the #1 ladder player about 6 years ago. Same guy??? Of course it is
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Did Tech do anything to improve their programs for the mentally unstable at all? They claimed they would after the shooting but what the hell?
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On January 24 2009 13:04 redtooth wrote: Did Tech do anything to improve their programs for the mentally unstable at all? They claimed they would after the shooting but what the hell?
They probably did, but there is still not enough information on this guy yet, plus he is some phd or whatever? so for NOW it doesn't seem like he has a history of mental problems, just that he snapped while having coffee with her.
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On January 23 2009 14:00 Cloud wrote: What? This guy is strong as jack bauer or he was using an axe and a base. No way in hell he just suddenly beheaded a full grown person with a kitchen knife. Resident mexican Cloud will fully inform us of what can -- and can't be done with a knife.
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On January 24 2009 13:04 redtooth wrote: Did Tech do anything to improve their programs for the mentally unstable at all? They claimed they would after the shooting but what the hell? Yeah, they did. But there's really only so much you can do. If someone wants to randomly kill someone, they're pretty much gonna do it, and there's not much you can do about it. I, for one, would much rather be able to live my life normally and freely and take that chance than be watched over all day every day by some group that decides whether or not I'm mentally ill, even in light of these events. So yeah, this is pretty much a coincedence, and it sucks, but there's not too much that can be done to prevent it.
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i doubt he snapped while having coffee, im sure it was premeditated
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*takes a sip of coffee* brb gettin mah knife
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On January 23 2009 13:56 ilovejonn wrote: what the fuck are going through these people's heads.. bwahaaha ..D:
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The Greyhound case mentioned the possibility of Wendigo psychosis. Was there any mention of (attempted?) cannibalism in this case? I know it is supposed to be (native american) culture bound but.. *shudders*
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On January 23 2009 15:50 hacpee wrote: Since Kaine has been governor, the family values of University students has gone in the wrong direction. Its about time we impeach Kaine and bring someone in who can restore the values and traditions that will prevent cases like these from occurring ever again.
Yeah because lack of family values cause people to kill, as well as the dreaded "gay".
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
lol family values. i imagine certain forms of family values would include cannibalism.
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what - the - hell
this is attrocious
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god, the rage or numbness to behead someone like that. what must have gone thru his head??
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it's interesting that there's been no further information on this case
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On January 26 2009 02:37 Xeris wrote: i doubt he snapped while having coffee
Maybe it was McDonalds' coffee.
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I'm pretty sure that the shooting at VT had little to do with the mental stability of this guy. It's really unfortunate that it happened at the same school, but I don't think the fault is on the campus mental health department itself. (theres just no way to know or even check a persons mental stability). Really really unfortunate/terrible occurrence at VT.
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On January 29 2009 03:20 ReTr0[p.S] wrote:Maybe it was McDonalds' coffee.
Which happens to be the #1 rated coffee.
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On January 29 2009 05:45 BalliSLife wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 03:20 ReTr0[p.S] wrote:On January 26 2009 02:37 Xeris wrote: i doubt he snapped while having coffee Maybe it was McDonalds' coffee. Which happens to be the #1 rated coffee. Exactly.
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ugh...gross.. what is with V-tech.. i wnated to go there once upon a time
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