LOST Season 5 - Page 16

On May 14 2009 12:28 Athos wrote:



Isn't that what Smoky does?

On May 14 2009 14:33 TryThis wrote:
My friend and i (mostly him) spent a long time talking about the guy at the start.
this is what we came up with

so. I posit that the man at the beginning, known henceforth as X, and Jacob are in some kind of wargame. as we know they are not friends, as X said he would kill him but he doesn't. presumably they are bound by a set of rules. Rules to which Richard plays as somewhat of a referee. these rules govern the actions that X and Jacob can or cannot do. similar to a game of chess, the players would be X and Jacob, however the pieces would be Jack, Sawyer, Ben, etc.

I think the end of the game involves breaking out of or into a different time loop. as we can see, Jacob plays the game by visiting peoples lives and altering them in subtle (or not so subtle, if you're sayid) ways. I think that X and Jacob have lived through this time loop numerable times, X for whatever reason doesn't want to break it, and Jacob does. Or perhaps based on the beginning scene, Jacob caused it and believes he can break it. X does not.

I know that sounds like a stretch, but in previous seasons I had heard Ben and Widmore talk about "breaking rules" and I think on a couple of occasions ben has said "you don;t knw who your playing for, do you?" regardless, if you think my idea is balogna, don't even continue reading.

What was the common thread in the flashbacks of the finale?
Jacob was in all of them. FALSE.
Juliet did not have a Jacob appearance in her flashback. This leads me to believe that Juliet is simply a piece of the game that Jacob has not had the foresight to manipulate. well who gives a shit about Juliet, right?
Wrong. Juliet is the one who sets off the bomb. Juliet singlehandedly alters the state of the past, killing all of them. Jacob thinks he is out of the time loop, but Juliet has made it occur again. in 30 years, the plane crashes again because Miles was right. the bomb caused the hatch. The loop repeats.

On May 14 2009 21:16 LG)Sabbath wrote:
also, the bomb has to have caused the crash, otherwise miles' dad can just go back to his wife and then miles wont think his dad left him and so on

its kind of a brainfuck though, the timeline goes: first jack gets on the plane, then he brings it down himself, then the plane crashes... doesnt make much sense to me

On May 14 2009 15:58 hiddink wrote:
it was christian shepard aka "X" who told locke to get everyone back onto the island, not jacob. the above theory is interesting and fits the pieces