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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
April 30 2009 02:15 GMT
#2861
fail show
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
stk01001
Profile Joined September 2007
United States786 Posts
April 30 2009 02:20 GMT
#2862
my god what an amazing comeback... this has really been an entertaining series... and I myself don't get all the Mark hate.. I mean he's obviously not really the "Ultimate Gamer" but he seems like a decent guy and it's nice to see and underdog win...

Rob shoulda picked Incontrol as his partner... then things might have turned out different =) if only they realized how much more gaming skill is required to be a national SC champion, compared to these other nub games.. heheheh
a.k.a reLapSe ---
FoBuLouS
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States570 Posts
April 30 2009 02:25 GMT
#2863
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/090423.jpg
lol bejeweled
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
April 30 2009 02:29 GMT
#2864
God damnit, I wanted Jamal to win so badly, I love Jamal!
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
April 30 2009 02:30 GMT
#2865
I agree, Mark seems like a decent guy. I just don't feel happy for him winning cuz I really don't know him at all. If iNc won, that's another story. He's part of this community at least!
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 03:14:04
April 30 2009 02:41 GMT
#2866
On April 29 2009 11:39 Silent`Assassin wrote:
Shaun White snowboarding... what a bad competitive game, glad thats over with.

no way, looks like cool boarders 2 racing+tricks/score. And btw, what the hell was the point of getting a score if it was just whoever passes the finish first get the win?

lol @ people getting mad at who wins.
Who the fuck cares #1, Does it affect your life whatsoever?

#2, Stop saying Rob is the better gamer, because clearly after all the competition real life and not Mark prevailed as the winner. In fact here are the stats from each episode:
+ Show Spoiler +

Mark 6th 6th 5th 7th 1st 1st 4th 4th 2nd 1st
Rob 12th 8th 3rd 2nd 2nd 6th 3rd 2nd 1st 2nd
Not counting the finals.
I count two 1sts and a 2nd for mark with his worst ever being a 6th. Rob on the other hand got some really bad rankings a few times and only placed 1st once with three 2nds.


#3, At first everyone was calling rob a douche bag with his contacts, sideways hat, fingerless gloves, sleeping with hoodie on, and his "definite" bullshit. Now you all love him?

#4, I think you are all either jealous that this average joe gamer (with a crappy style and gf) won 100k for a fairly luck based competition.

#5 Rob clearly cracked under pressure, where on the other hand Mark was excited and pumped. I think we can all agree that even the most talented player is worthless if he can't play under pressure.


And about the worst gamers on the show, Obviously its the girls so take them aside and that leaves Inc and JD basically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCG_Ultimate_Gamer

As far as the best record, Swoozie has really good scores in almost everything with the most 1sts. But the fact of the matter is he did the worst of the 4 best gamers in Halo. Like I said its luck based, if they had switched halo and SC4 maybe it would be a different story.

Btw Jamal has probably the best looking record of all imo, his worst ranking was 5th and everything else is top 4. And he even defended a few elim rounds as well.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
April 30 2009 03:06 GMT
#2867
#1: I don't care! It's reality TV and Geoff didn't win, so it really doesn't matter who won to me.

#2: I think it's fair to say that the RL challenges have no bearing on whether someone is a good gamer or not. Interesting though to see that Mark was averaging the best places overall.

#3 It's a definite that my opinion of him changed as I saw him play the games. I still find those contacts terrible btw.

#4 either that or what? I'm jealous he got 100k and I didn't, of course. But I don't hate the guy or anything.
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 03:10:36
April 30 2009 03:10 GMT
#2868
Also I think it's hilarious how Rob was completely overconfident (the entire season mind you) and had to prove his worth to his mother and then just failed. Imo, that's what he gets for being so cocky.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
April 30 2009 03:13 GMT
#2869
Anyway, I hope that this show comes back for a second season, it was quite entertaining overall.

Just wish they would do more PC gaming, like include games like Quake3/CS/COD4 (or even Starcraft ). If that was the case I'd LOVE to be a contestant and I feel I'd clean up house. :o

CS or COD could work early in the season... they could train for a day in two teams and play 5v5 on dust2. Lowest score on losing team is up for elim. Kinda like the Halo match they did, but they should show more of the actual gameplay. Since the games are faster paced than Halo it'd be way more interesting to watch imo.

Quake3 would be fucking perfect as one of the games for the 1v1 "final showdown" at the end of the season. Same with Street Fighter 4, or any decently-made fighting game out there.

Starcraft would be hilarious in that all the gamers that are unfamiliar with it would be laughably bad. I'd love to see it on the show, but if we're being practical, there's no chance.
(>'.')>
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 03:19:24
April 30 2009 03:18 GMT
#2870
I hope season 2 comes out as well.

I would hope they use some non console games too, but older games might not make it in.

It would be more likely to have Quake 4 or Unreal Tourney 3 though. If they do older games, obviously counterstrike (even though its a team game and it sucks imo).

Imo they should just do all the greatest games of all time. Like have them do a speed run of mario brothers, beat the most levels on tetris, etc.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
PooFieCN
Profile Joined April 2009
United States13 Posts
April 30 2009 03:19 GMT
#2871
=[ super sad...

you would think, of all the games rob isn't good at, that soul caliber wouldn't be one of them... i hate mark =[
i am the one
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
April 30 2009 03:31 GMT
#2872
Yea there's no doubt that Rob was a pretty sick console gamer overall, especially with FPS and games like Guitar Hero... but for him to give up that 4-0 lead in Soul Caliber 4 is inexcusable if he is truly the "ultimate gamer." Surely for this show they knew they had to be damn skilled in fighting games to win it... and that, along with console FPS and GH/DDR/Rock Band type games, were basically the 3 genres you had to be good at if you wanted a chance.

I can't help but feel that if Jamal had somehow squeaked through that Halo marathon and made it to the final round, he would have cleaned up in the first game and SC4, and therefore won the whole thing. I'm sure he would have beaten Rob 1v1 in those 3 games. Heck from what we saw on the show, I even think Swoozy would have taken Rob as well. It really all came down to the final game choices that the show's producers made, and those choices definitely worked against Rob. Tough shit.
(>'.')>
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 03:42:30
April 30 2009 03:41 GMT
#2873
On April 30 2009 12:31 jonich0n wrote:

I can't help but feel that if Jamal had somehow squeaked through that Halo marathon and made it to the final round, he would have cleaned up in the first game and SC4, and therefore won the whole thing. I'm sure he would have beaten Rob 1v1 in those 3 games. Heck from what we saw on the show, I even think Swoozy would have taken Rob as well. It really all came down to the final game choices that the show's producers made, and those choices definitely worked against Rob. Tough shit.

Of course there was a lot of luck involved, but that's just how tournaments work. It's not like they can feasably ask them to compete in all types of game at every single round.

edit: actually I would have really enjoyed watching that lol, next time they should do that and cut out the stupid personal drama that we've all seen a million times on reality tv shows.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Eniram
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Sudan3166 Posts
April 30 2009 03:50 GMT
#2874
I cant watch it. This show is banned in my country.
You can like take a newb to like water, but you cant like make a newb drink. Ya know? - Jeremy
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 03:55:16
April 30 2009 03:51 GMT
#2875
On April 30 2009 12:31 jonich0n wrote:
Yea there's no doubt that Rob was a pretty sick console gamer overall, especially with FPS and games like Guitar Hero... but for him to give up that 4-0 lead in Soul Caliber 4 is inexcusable if he is truly the "ultimate gamer." Surely for this show they knew they had to be damn skilled in fighting games to win it... and that, along with console FPS and GH/DDR/Rock Band type games, were basically the 3 genres you had to be good at if you wanted a chance.

I can't help but feel that if Jamal had somehow squeaked through that Halo marathon and made it to the final round, he would have cleaned up in the first game and SC4, and therefore won the whole thing. I'm sure he would have beaten Rob 1v1 in those 3 games. Heck from what we saw on the show, I even think Swoozy would have taken Rob as well. It really all came down to the final game choices that the show's producers made, and those choices definitely worked against Rob. Tough shit.

I actually wonder if the producers deliberately left decisions like that to the last second, so that they could influence the outcome without outright rigging it. Mark seems like a more personable guy than Rob--maybe WCG thinks of him as a better spokesman.

I know it's a conspiracy theory, but things like this have happened before, and how else to explain the lack of transparency (posting some sort of schedule of events in advance) and arbitrariness of the elimination procedure, which, as many people have pointed out, essentially resulted in the "Ultimate Gamer" being determined by the order (and point value!) of events chosen, in every round of the show, in the Gauntlet, and in the final?

edit:
On April 30 2009 12:41 Luddite wrote:
Of course there was a lot of luck involved, but that's just how tournaments work. It's not like they can feasibly ask them to compete in all types of game at every single round.

Not chess tournaments. And obviously this show involved far, far more luck than any sort of tournament in a single event.

I'm not complaining, mind you: this was a reality show, not a tournament. The pretext of finding the "ultimate gamer" (if such creature exists) was paper thin.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 03:57:39
April 30 2009 03:56 GMT
#2876
i just wish final was swoozie vs jamal so i could see ONE fucking decent match this entire season instead of watching 2 clowns trying to fastkick their opponent to death D;
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
April 30 2009 04:06 GMT
#2877
On April 30 2009 12:56 zizou21 wrote:
i just wish final was swoozie vs jamal so i could see ONE fucking decent match this entire season instead of watching 2 clowns trying to fastkick their opponent to death D;

Haha yea, taking into consideration the games that were chosen, Swoozie vs. Jamal would have been SUCH a better finale imo. At least the Soul Caliber showdown made it pretty fucking exciting even if the quality of the play was pretty low. That 9th round omg. :o
(>'.')>
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
April 30 2009 04:17 GMT
#2878
And this show was expected to boost esports in the US? If anything it made a huge joke of it.
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
April 30 2009 04:20 GMT
#2879
On April 30 2009 12:10 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Also I think it's hilarious how Rob was completely overconfident (the entire season mind you) and had to prove his worth to his mother and then just failed. Imo, that's what he gets for being so cocky.


+1
that mother comment was sooo damn funny
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 30 2009 05:40 GMT
#2880
why are people bitching about the point value, it didn't even affect the outcome whatsoever. in fact the only way it can affect the outcome is if the person loses the first 2 games, they still have a shot at tying it for sudden-death mode, *that's it*

i can't judge their skill though, but the sc4 looked pretty bad. then again my only soulcal experience is with sc3's xianghua among my friends, spamming AA variations, 3B/K, etc. and of course the awesome 66AB(G) lol. enough to beat my friends (and make them hate xianghua's 66AB move) but that's about it.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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