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On November 19 2008 06:12 d1v wrote:
Guys, please don't post any legal advice here if you're not familiar with the respective country's traffic law, this might lead to more trouble than expected.
Granted I am not familiar with his country's traffic laws, BUT, it would be like in the US a car to the left of me in a straight only lane suddenly turning right into my car without ever putting blinkers on or anything, in which case I am sure they would be the one to pay. I mean, if it were to be uniformly ruled to be my fault no matter how many times this was repeated, this would definitely open the way to a lot of car accident fraud. Besides, it is legally required here in the US at least that you either turn on blinkers or use hand signal before you turn. Thus, the person hitting me would lose case 100% as far as I know.
You should check if turn signals are required by law in Croatia before turns o.O (I would hope they are)
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lol you're a fucking idiot for passing in an intersection. wait like 3 more seconds what the hell
she's a bad driver for not signalling/checking(not that she really needed to but yea...)
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On November 19 2008 06:18 Frits wrote:
I don't think you can get out of this niteReloaded, you pretty much have yourself to blame for this, the blinker off was retarded but still that doesn't come close to what you did. :p
Besides she was driving slowly, HINT HINT. It always pains me to see what people do in traffic to cut maybe 10 seconds of the travelling time.
Speeding everyday saves me a lot more than 10 seconds  my biggest pet peeve is people driving slow, and causing me to catch a light.... -- far more than 10 seconds where i live in this big fucking gay ass city
back to the OP... If you could state whether it's a 2way or 1way street.... 2way your fault 100% without a doubt.... 1 way 100% her fault wihtout a doubt (in the usa)
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From the picture given on the OP the street seems to be 1way - meaning that he shouldn't be at fault. Who turns left from the right lane?
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On November 19 2008 06:29 TranceStorm wrote:
From the picture given on the OP the street seems to be 1way - meaning that he shouldn't be at fault. Who turns left from the right lane?
yes, I'm assuming in the a white background i'm assuming those black lines are supposed to be white.... where are the yellow lines? (usa only?)
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Passing on an intersection is just blatantly your fault. I drive fast and hate it when people in front of me drive slow, but you could just wait after the damn intersection and pass her. If she hits you then it's 100% her fault.
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On November 19 2008 05:47 baal wrote:
Be a man and pay up, you fucked up its 100% your fault, if she had the blinkers or not its still your fault...
why didnt you pass her on the right lane anyway?
I don't see how its 100% his fault; Although he shouldn't have tried to pass her in an intersection (stupid imo), she still didn't signal when turning at an intersection (almost as stupid) or even look when she turned (based on the drawing which shows he was pretty much right beside her when she made the turn).
He's obviously obligated to pay a large portion of the costs, but 100% is too much in my opinion.
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OP you need to explain your picture better. If those are dotted lines then your not at fault, if they're double yellow lines.....then you fucked up.
I know this because my mom got into a similar accident, except she was the one that turned into the other car lol...
She was gonna switch to her right lane because she thought the other car was going to turn but it kept going straight instead, so when she switched lanes the car hit her on the right passenger door.
It ended up being her fault according to the insurance companies so it really depends on your drawing. Dotted or double solid?
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op isn't clear at all, we don't know if it's a one way street or not. if it is a one way street she is making a left turn from the right lane which is just ridiculous. if not, he is on the wrong side of the road in an intersection passing her which is just ridiculous. 1st scenario 100% her fault, 2nd scenario 100% his. and there isn't even a question. so evidently op is 0% clear. lol
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On November 19 2008 06:34 Motiva wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2008 06:29 TranceStorm wrote:
From the picture given on the OP the street seems to be 1way - meaning that he shouldn't be at fault. Who turns left from the right lane? yes, I'm assuming in the a white background i'm assuming those black lines are supposed to be white.... where are the yellow lines? (usa only?)
What I'm assuming from what the OP says that he was originally behind the car. This would mean that the street would be 1way from the picture.
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You messed up by passing at the intersection, but she also didn't check and user her turning signal so it's both your faults. Try to split payments for both cars maybe?
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i'm almost certain that if this goes to court you're going to be the one found at fault. passing at an intersection is illegal, if it were me driving in front of you i wouldn't check my blind spot either while turning... why would i? you don't assume someone is going to pass you at an intersection.
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the picture is noobish. do you understand the real picture as you drew it?
is that an 1 way street? or both? how many lanes?
did you pass to the opposite direction when passing her? if yes - 100% your fault - there is no excuse driving in the opposite traffic lanes
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looks like you were undertaking her which puts you at fault?
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Wait, you didn't call police, but it still got to insurance? How the hell did that work?
And I don't know how it is by you, but in the States, that isn't going anywhere without a police report. Cops, court, whatever—don't care if you didn't file it with the cops.
The 20 or 30% could just be what insurance feels is necessary to cover the cost of the damages. Are they verifying that they're doing what is necessary, or are they tacking on bullshit and trying to make money on you?
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It's a 2 way road, 1 lane for each direction (the cars are kind of small in my original picture), we are both heading north. I AM at the wrong side of the road in the moment of the impact.
The line goes like this - - - - - before intersection, but I'm not sure if it's full once you enter it, I should check that out.
I was thinking exactly the same as you guys BEFORE this guy from my insurance contacted me saying that she's been carelessly performing the most dangerous (legal) maneuver in traffic - the left turn.
If it wasn't for her mistake, I wouldn't have made mine. And when I did make mine, she still had a chance to avoid clash, but failed to take it.
And to the people who are saying what were you thinking... phew, I'm lucky this happened on this occasions; I've done stuff more retarded than this... (like passing people thru the bus stops - those small expansions of the road that are intended for buses to stop and drop people off)
She was just driving slowly, and me and my friend were discussing something so I didn't really think while driving, I was impulsively doing stuff.
I still feel like it's more my fault, but if the law says she's more to blame, I shouldn't really feel bad to take money.
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On November 19 2008 06:59 Hawk wrote:
Wait, you didn't call police, but it still got to insurance? How the hell did that work?
And I don't know how it is by you, but in the States, that isn't going anywhere without a police report. Cops, court, whatever—don't care if you didn't file it with the cops.
The 20 or 30% could just be what insurance feels is necessary to cover the cost of the damages. Are they verifying that they're doing what is necessary, or are they tacking on bullshit and trying to make money on you?
In Croatia, if nobody was hurt, you can fill an official document intended for accidents where you draw the accident, fill in personal info, car info, and everything neccessary. You both sign it and it's a valid document to take to the insurance. Then you contact insurance, they send their people to evaluate damages etc.
EthernalDeath, yes, blinkers are mandatory before making the turn.
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On November 19 2008 07:01 niteReloaded wrote:
It's a 2 way road, 1 lane for each direction (the cars are kind of small in my original picture), we are both heading north. I AM at the wrong side of the road in the moment of the impact.
Yeah, that would definitely make it your fault for passing through an intersection on 2-way road. =(
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Unless thats a one way street you fucked up. Pay the lady.
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