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aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
October 21 2008 19:20 GMT
#621
On October 22 2008 04:10 TimeShifter wrote:
Is anyone thinking that Obama not choosing clinton as Vice President is a major mistake in his campaign? i think he lost quite a lot of pro-Clintons who went McCain instead..hmm..

You're about 2-3 months behind
Live to win.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
October 21 2008 19:49 GMT
#622
On October 22 2008 04:20 aRod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2008 04:10 TimeShifter wrote:
Is anyone thinking that Obama not choosing clinton as Vice President is a major mistake in his campaign? i think he lost quite a lot of pro-Clintons who went McCain instead..hmm..

You're about 2-3 months behind


I dont think so, if that were the case, people you call him and her flip flopers.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
TimeShifter
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore235 Posts
October 21 2008 20:36 GMT
#623
On October 22 2008 04:20 aRod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2008 04:10 TimeShifter wrote:
Is anyone thinking that Obama not choosing clinton as Vice President is a major mistake in his campaign? i think he lost quite a lot of pro-Clintons who went McCain instead..hmm..

You're about 2-3 months behind
let me rephrase: Does anyone still think that Obama not choosing clinton as Vice President was a major mistake in his campaign? i think he lost quite a lot of pro-Clintons who went McCain instead..hmm..

sorry i was not really updated, so asking around for public opinions
strawberries~
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
October 21 2008 20:39 GMT
#624
i think any of the damage obama did to his campaign by not choosing hilary or a woman for the VP was quickly undone when palin started opening her mouth
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-21 20:40:48
October 21 2008 20:40 GMT
#625
On October 22 2008 03:51 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2008 00:02 TimeShifter wrote:
On October 21 2008 23:29 JudasT wrote:
<3 Obama


coolest campaign vid ever seen in my life..Singapore politics are so boring

2- In US, there is no regulation about compaign's financement. Better being very rich and have very rich friends to be elected president.

sorry, but this is plain wrong
edit: regarding the first part.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 21 2008 20:46 GMT
#626
I think the Clinton supporters who claimed to be supporting McCain were only making empty threats because they want to be courted by the next candidate.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
October 21 2008 20:48 GMT
#627
On October 22 2008 05:46 Jibba wrote:
I think the Clinton supporters who claimed to be supporting McCain were only making empty threats because they want to be courted by the next candidate.


Would you have voted for clinton for president?
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 21 2008 20:52 GMT
#628
Had she won, yes. Aside from foreign policy, her policies do not differ from Obama's in any significant way. The main difference is his ability to inspire people, which is actually a valuable gift for any leader. I don't think she would have been a particularly good VP candidate, however.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Manowarrior
Profile Joined May 2007
United States159 Posts
October 21 2008 21:00 GMT
#629
I don't even know if I can vote this year. I bet if Obama gets elected, he gets assassinated. If McCain gets elected, he dies in office and we have SARAH PALIN (who was oblivious to every supreme court case except roe vs wade) AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

Probably not the best contribution to the thread, but that's my 2¢.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 21 2008 21:03 GMT
#630
On October 22 2008 06:00 Manowarrior wrote:
Probably not the best contribution to the thread, but that's my 4¢.


Fixed. Remember to adjust for inflation next time.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
October 21 2008 21:04 GMT
#631
Could anyone care to explain to me why Ron Paul does not have a chance?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
October 21 2008 21:09 GMT
#632
On October 22 2008 06:04 closed wrote:
Could anyone care to explain to me why Ron Paul does not have a chance?


lol
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
October 21 2008 21:10 GMT
#633
On October 22 2008 06:04 closed wrote:
Could anyone care to explain to me why Ron Paul does not have a chance?


He didn't win the republican primary ...
cava!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 21 2008 21:11 GMT
#634
On October 22 2008 06:00 Manowarrior wrote:
I don't even know if I can vote this year. I bet if Obama gets elected, he gets assassinated. If McCain gets elected, he dies in office and we have SARAH PALIN (who was oblivious to every supreme court case except roe vs wade) AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

Probably not the best contribution to the thread, but that's my 2¢.

Then vote for Biden. o.o
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
October 21 2008 21:11 GMT
#635
On October 22 2008 06:04 closed wrote:
Could anyone care to explain to me why Ron Paul does not have a chance?


Because he's not running? Good luck organizing a write-in campaign!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
October 21 2008 21:13 GMT
#636
On October 22 2008 05:46 Jibba wrote:
I think the Clinton supporters who claimed to be supporting McCain were only making empty threats because they want to be courted by the next candidate.


I wish you were right

I think there's some (not really any significant #) but definitely some who are that bent out of shape from primaries. Two girls I know said 'I really like Palin; she's a woman!' and I had to resist shooting myself. They were clinton-backers a few months ago. Fuck, my goddamned congressman's sister said she wasnt sure if she'd vote for Obama if Clinton didnt get it and shes a fucking Democrat!!
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R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
October 21 2008 21:14 GMT
#637
liked McCain till he chose palin.... Obama has stronger cab group and so i choose him (personally dislike obama very much)

honestly to me it's a loss loss situation... Hate Obama but if McCain wins and dies Palin is the president? u gotta be kiddin me... y not put my mom as the president, rofl she's a friggin soccer mom!
ggyo...
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
October 21 2008 21:22 GMT
#638
On October 21 2008 14:08 MyLostTemple wrote:
savio i'm applauded that you'd honestly think our american education system is actually great. just because you have managed to make a success out of yourself doesn't excuse the fact that the vast majority of high school graduates leave with a god awful education. yes, it is possible to succeed in life, even under the worst circumstances.

i do agree it's somewhat up to the student to succeed but the public schools i attended growing up were god awful. i had teachers who were completely incompetent and there was no order in the classroom whatsoever. i've had teachers tell me i was stupid and others who would do my homework for me so that when the principal looked at it (this teacher was in trouble with the school) it appeared that i was learning. It wasn't until i got sent to a private school that i got a real education and luckily got into a great college.

wswordsmen you need to watch the rest of the video if you think you're owning this up 7 mins in. i think the documentaries point about creating competition (but not like bushes no child left behind) is a good thing.

TimeShifter: most good universities are made of outstanding public school students (like savio's s tory), private school students, homeschooled students and outstanding students from other countries.

anyways i don't wana derail this thread any more.


How is this a derail? Education is a big component in this election. Our current system blows horsecock. Teachers teach to pass the fed's tests, not to enlighten kids. If I said that 1/3 of all high school teachers are competent, I'd probably be lying. Tenure is the worst fucking thing to happen ever, because it keeps retards in and keeps young, fresh ideas out.

And these federal mandates are ridiculous. We shouldn't even have them in the first place, but if we're gonna be stuck with this shit, why can't we get more than a drop in the bucket in aid? Oh, that's because all of it goes to the shitty abbott districts, which never get regulated and 'misplace' millions in aid annually. Education here—elementary, middle, highschool and college—all blow ass.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-21 21:33:12
October 21 2008 21:29 GMT
#639
Our elementary schools are actually near the top and I'm not sure how you can criticize our colleges, besides the admission process. There's a lot of idiots that attend, but the schools are generally much more rigorous than many other modern countries and almost every state has an excellent, cheap public institution for those that wish to learn. Even community colleges have been improving dramatically over the past 10 years.

The math/science failure exists because of a shortage of qualified teachers for physical science, biology, algebra, geometry, etc. at the middle/highschool level. We don't need ridiculous testing standards like Japan or China, but there are way too many 'football coach' teachers in our schools.

Just out of curiosity, how many people here took US History from a sports coach?

My first Civics teacher was an unqualified idiot, but the rest of my teachers were actually pretty good. Junior year we were actually reading Howard Zinn as one of our textbooks.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
October 21 2008 21:34 GMT
#640
On October 22 2008 06:29 Jibba wrote:
Our elementary schools are actually near the top and I'm not sure how you can criticize our colleges, besides the admission process. There's a lot of idiots that attend, but the schools are generally much more rigorous than many other modern countries and almost every state has an excellent, cheap public institution for those that wish to learn. Even community colleges have been improving dramatically over the past 10 years.

The math/science failure exists because of a shortage of qualified teachers for physical science, biology, algebra, geometry, etc. at the middle/highschool level. We don't need ridiculous testing standards like Japan or China, but there are way too many 'football coach' teachers in our schools.

Just out of curiosity, how many people here took US History from a sports coach?

My first Civics teacher was an unqualified idiot, but the rest of my teachers were actually pretty good. Junior year we were actually reading Howard Zinn as one of our textbooks.


All i know about history i learned when i got out of the school because the information they made us focus on were so bogus and in the end it was more of a menemonic test than anything else.

Next year, i couldnt remember shit
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
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