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Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
October 17 2008 06:06 GMT
#381
On October 17 2008 14:44 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 11:03 Jibba wrote:
WHAT COULD BE BETTER THAN A TL RELIGION AND POLITICS THREAD?

a tl religion and politics and economics and science thread


Then throw in a few people who think WOW > SC
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
October 17 2008 10:15 GMT
#382
Luckely a thread like that would get locked in a matter of minutes
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
October 17 2008 10:49 GMT
#383
On October 17 2008 11:03 Jibba wrote:
WHAT COULD BE BETTER THAN A TL RELIGION AND POLITICS THREAD?


Lets face it, it's naive to seperate the two.
Live to win.
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 11:14:18
October 17 2008 11:06 GMT
#384
On October 17 2008 19:49 aRod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 11:03 Jibba wrote:
WHAT COULD BE BETTER THAN A TL RELIGION AND POLITICS THREAD?


Lets face it, it's naive to seperate the two.


its not in any other country than the us

just following this thread and watching the videos. those tv ads are just ridiculous. i live in germany but im an american citizen and im able to vote in the us, and just watching those ads. theyre like a bad joke. anyone campaigning in germany like those guys would just be laughed at. just mentioning god or religion and you´d be out. those obama is a muslim accusations and how they reasoned, you wouldn´t be taken seriously anymore.

apart from that im still voting obama, not because hes a democrat, since i can´t really see a difference for me personally apart from a minimal change in tax, IF i were to live in america, but because he just seems quite intelligent in his interviews and speeches.
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
October 17 2008 11:09 GMT
#385
On October 17 2008 20:06 Wurzelbrumpft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 19:49 aRod wrote:
On October 17 2008 11:03 Jibba wrote:
WHAT COULD BE BETTER THAN A TL RELIGION AND POLITICS THREAD?


Lets face it, it's naive to seperate the two.


its not in any other country than the us


Israel, India, Iran, Saudi Arabia? Religion and Politics sadly get mixed up all too often.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
October 17 2008 11:15 GMT
#386
On October 17 2008 20:09 Fwmeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 20:06 Wurzelbrumpft wrote:
On October 17 2008 19:49 aRod wrote:
On October 17 2008 11:03 Jibba wrote:
WHAT COULD BE BETTER THAN A TL RELIGION AND POLITICS THREAD?


Lets face it, it's naive to seperate the two.


its not in any other country than the us


Israel, India, Iran, Saudi Arabia? Religion and Politics sadly get mixed up all too often.


im sorry of course your right in those cases, i meant in the western world
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10653 Posts
October 17 2008 11:56 GMT
#387
On October 17 2008 14:44 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 11:03 Jibba wrote:
WHAT COULD BE BETTER THAN A TL RELIGION AND POLITICS THREAD?

a tl religion and politics and economics and science thread


A tl religion, politics, economics, science, backho and firebathero thread.


Be scared, be very scared!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 17 2008 12:54 GMT
#388
On October 17 2008 14:37 BlackJack wrote:
Is anyone else getting tired of how extremely partisan the Daily Show and Colbert Report are these days?

It's a comedy show. They go after who does dumber shit. Which campaign do you think is doing the dumbest shit?
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 17 2008 13:27 GMT
#389
A day after making Joseph Wurzelbacher famous, referencing him in the debate almost two dozen times as someone who would pay higher taxes under Barack Obama, McCain learned the fine print Thursday on the plumber’s not-so-tidy personal story: He owes back taxes. He is not a licensed plumber. And it turns out that Wurzelbacher makes less than $250,000 a year, which means he would receive a tax cut if Obama were elected president.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14652.html
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7206 Posts
October 17 2008 13:33 GMT
#390
On October 17 2008 22:27 Jibba wrote:
A day after making Joseph Wurzelbacher famous, referencing him in the debate almost two dozen times as someone who would pay higher taxes under Barack Obama, McCain learned the fine print Thursday on the plumber’s not-so-tidy personal story: He owes back taxes. He is not a licensed plumber. And it turns out that Wurzelbacher makes less than $250,000 a year, which means he would receive a tax cut if Obama were elected president.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14652.html



ROFL I hope this hits CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, and all the major news outlets

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 17 2008 13:35 GMT
#391
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14656.html

“This is as good a place as any to make a major announcement,” he said. “It’s true that this morning I’ve dismissed my entire team of advisers. All their positions will be held by a man named Joe the Plumber.”

McCain then said some have questioned whether Joe the Plumber could possibly earn enough to have his taxes raised by Barack Obama. The answer is yes, McCain said, and for one reason: “Joe the Plumber recently signed a very lucrative contract with a very wealthy couple to handle all the work on all seven of their houses!”

“I’m the underdog, but there are signs of hope,” McCain went on. “I can’t shake the feeling that some people here are pulling for me. I am delighted to see you here tonight, Hillary.”


“Can somebody tell me what happened to the Greek columns I requested?” Obama said and then mentioned the hotel where the dinner was being held. “I do love the Waldorf-Astoria. I hear from the doorstep you can see all the way to the Russian Tea Room.”

He then turned to Mayor Bloomberg and said that he is “going to be rewriting the rules and running for a third term. Which caused President Clinton to say, ‘You can do that?’ ”

...

But Obama’s funniest lines were reserved for tweaking himself. “Contrary to rumors you have heard, I was not born in a manger,” he said. “I was born on Krypton and sent here by my father Jor-El to save the Planet Earth.

“Barack is actually Swahili for ‘that one.’ And I got my middle name from someone who obviously didn’t think I’d ever run for president.

“My greatest strength is my humility. My greatest weakness is that I am a little too awesome.”
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
October 17 2008 14:11 GMT
#392
On October 17 2008 22:27 Jibba wrote:
A day after making Joseph Wurzelbacher famous, referencing him in the debate almost two dozen times as someone who would pay higher taxes under Barack Obama, McCain learned the fine print Thursday on the plumber’s not-so-tidy personal story: He owes back taxes. He is not a licensed plumber. And it turns out that Wurzelbacher makes less than $250,000 a year, which means he would receive a tax cut if Obama were elected president.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14652.html



hahaha that's beautiful
Locke.
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Israel562 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 14:59:07
October 17 2008 14:56 GMT
#393
On October 17 2008 04:17 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 04:06 Locke. wrote:
On October 17 2008 03:20 yoshtodd wrote:
On October 17 2008 03:17 fusionsdf wrote:
[image loading]


Is this and the other tongue picture photoshopped? Looks like he's gonna throw up.

Honestly if America elects this guy (along with Palin) you will probably lose so much respect in the world.


I agree with that but I'm curious what are your thoughts on Israel's political choices? McCain is conservative in the US, extremely conservative in most of W. Europe, and probably liberal-moderate in Israel. o.o


Jibba,

Israel political choices in recent years have been extremely bad. In many ways the "big players" (those who can aspire to be PM) in Israel politics are decided by the media (which is almost completely very left winged). Only exception to that has been Mr. Nethanyahu and the media did all it can to stop him from functioning and destroy his image.

Just to demonstrate the madness that is Israel politics.. Sharon was elected for saying that Gush Katif is like Tel-Aviv and would never be destroyed (his official campaign). Shortly after he was elected with a vast majority, he changed his mind COMPLETELY (perhaps had to do with private investigation against him and his son) and decided to evacuate and destroy Gush Katif and give it to Hamas without any agreement..
He then formed a corrupt and very left wing party called Kadima together with his should be "rivals" using the right winged mandates he received in the election..

Democracy at its best.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 17 2008 17:42 GMT
#394
from your post i can make out an insider's view of political dynamics among factions, but no real sense of policy directions.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 17:58:19
October 17 2008 17:49 GMT
#395
Are you calling Kadima left wing by Israeli standards or do you think it's actually a leftist organization? Sharon would have been a hardline conservative in any other modern country.

Yes, Olmert and co. are corrupt but the other side are essentially religious extremists.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
October 17 2008 18:32 GMT
#396
On October 17 2008 15:06 Tsagacity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 14:44 oneofthem wrote:
On October 17 2008 11:03 Jibba wrote:
WHAT COULD BE BETTER THAN A TL RELIGION AND POLITICS THREAD?

a tl religion and politics and economics and science thread


Then throw in a few people who think WOW > SC


then a couple MBS scII threads
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 17 2008 18:57 GMT
#397
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
October 17 2008 19:07 GMT
#398
I Wouldnt vote on McCain on principle that a candidate that changes his campaign moto everytime its convenient isnt serious about his proposals.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
October 17 2008 19:48 GMT
#399
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122419210832542317.html

Damn, never seen anyone make such a good case against palin, you need to be a doorknob not to agree.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Locke.
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Israel562 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 20:13:13
October 17 2008 20:02 GMT
#400
On October 18 2008 02:49 Jibba wrote:
Are you calling Kadima left wing by Israeli standards or do you think it's actually a leftist organization? Sharon would have been a hardline conservative in any other modern country.

Yes, Olmert and co. are corrupt but the other side are essentially religious extremists.


First of all I think there's a bit of a problem comparing the definitions of right, left, conservative and such between Israel and US as they are very different. What the left wing parties in Israel do and support would have never been accepted in the states by both major parties.

just some of the things they supported and did:
-Were against launching a real military attack against terrorists who constantly fire rockets at Israeli civillians for 8 years.
-Destroying and evacuating peacefull and flourishing places (Gush Katif), giving the land to a terrorist organization(Hamas) and not compensating the people who were violently kicked out of their house.

this things, and the list is much longer, would have never been accepted in the US by either major parties (if any at all). So in some sense to be "rightist" in Israel is basically to have common sense and be against crazy things such as that. It's a bit similar (thought not quite) to preferring Obama to start with because you think Palin is a security hazard and an idiot.

Of course that's over generalization and there is a lot more to be said about the different views in Israel but the point is that what is considered "moderate" left in Israel would be considered unacceptable and plain madness in other countries.


On Kadima, it has by Israel standards has a very leftist(Israeli definition) agenda. However Olmert, Livni, Sharon, Mofaz etc.. all came from the largest right wing party HaLikud.

It is messed up if the majority of civillians vote for the right wing party, and without a new election the rulling party becomes a left wing party.

Currently the only "mainstream" alternative to Kadima and Labor (which are basically the same thing) is Benjamin Nethanyahu heading what's left of Halikud but he is being pretty much murdered on the centralized Israeli media for the past 15 or so years.

Israel future seems pretty gloom if you look at its politics..
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