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PURGE 2008: A month of posting behaviour evaluated
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
Don't avoid this thread, because bad posters will be found and assimilated. For more information: here. | ||
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Zalfor
United States1035 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:05 Zalfor wrote: 5 but why would u ban ppl? Rated 6.5: some mediocre short and senseless posts, and some informative helpful posts. Passed, but room to improve. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
+ i post too much lately because of holidays + i'm a smiley addict I will stop to post crap from now on. | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
edit: or you can look and give me a grade. also, if it helps anyone in grading themselves: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
Got careless here and there but did a few posts here and there trying to help people with problems on iccup/posting pictures or youtube videos etc when I saw they had some issues. On the bright side, I edit frequently and almost always preview my posts to make sure it looks awesome. Maybe that is a point? | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
Sometimes I try to help people find things (VODs, live games, etc. - good), sometimes I try to make good comments / engage in relevant discussion (good), sometimes I try to add something pertinent (good), but I think I've had some one-liners (bad), and I've had several blogs asking for help(somewhat bad IMO, but I've gotten great responses!) So here's my current goal: get a lot better at SC so I can do better live reporting (I've done a couple that probably weren't that good), and talk competently in the strategy forum. Though it's tough to find people to mass game with sometimes, I will look hard for TL! | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
because most of the time, i probably post short things and making short comments but other times i do things such as live battle reports, explaining things, i guess ^-^ and i entertain?? hehe one of the "kid gets caught playing games" and chibi testie ;] | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
A lot of one liners and some stupid shit here and there. edit: changed score after some thinking | ||
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:12 Boblion wrote: 5 because i did a lot of bad one liners in the Euro cup threads. + i post too much lately because of holidays + i'm a smiley addict On July 05 2008 00:47 Boblion wrote: Haha stfu wurst. Definitely room for improvement, and those were just your latest posts. Elaborate and don't insult so much or you won't last here. 5.5 | ||
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QuietIdiot
7004 Posts
0-1 if you count "other" factors. | ||
GTR
51431 Posts
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
Edit: This is my first time seeing/noticing beyonder, does he usually post a lot or am I just blind? | ||
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:12 fight_or_flight wrote: First I need some examples of 10s, 7s, etc before I can give a number. edit: or you can look and give me a grade. also, if it helps anyone in grading themselves: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php + Show Spoiler + On June 15 2008 10:41 fight_or_flight wrote: Hey, you are only 20. You have plenty of time to pursue the things you enjoy, look for opportunities in art that you can apply your law skills to. These days people don't do one career for their entire life. They switch jobs, companies, are always continually learning new things, etc. These days you have to be flexible. Just because you graduate with a degree doesn't necessarily mean you will be in that field in 10 or even 5 years. Just always look for opportunities, make connections, and do what interests you. What I'm saying is NEVER have that attitude that "its too late". Always be flexible, adaptable, and fast. I know a 40 year old who was in community college with be studying to become an engineer. Recently there was a 50 or 60 year old in one of my undergrad physics classes. These people have the right attitude and just go for what they want to do. 8.5: You don't insult, you contribute and seem to read your post again before you hit the post button. Respect. | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
6.5/10 | ||
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:13 SnowFantasy wrote: Definitely a 4.5 ~ 5 area I think. Got careless here and there but did a few posts here and there trying to help people with problems on iccup/posting pictures or youtube videos etc when I saw they had some issues. On the bright side, I edit frequently and almost always preview my posts to make sure it looks awesome. Maybe that is a point? + Show Spoiler + On June 19 2008 19:41 SnowFantasy wrote: ROFL. watching itn ow On June 20 2008 17:25 SnowFantasy wrote: Oh. Rofl I see it now. Is this just a theory you put up or did you beat it with this? On June 26 2008 19:40 SnowFantasy wrote: ROFL.... On June 26 2008 16:21 SnowFantasy wrote: lol. poor california  You seem to enjoy yourself at TeamLiquid. Always good. Uou don't seem to insult people nor shine in a bad way. Room for improvement and a bigger contribution, but you pass. 6. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:14 NotSorry wrote: 1, I've made over 200 kids cry in the last week, altho fun at the time, it makes me wonder how many of their lives will be ruined for every by my actions. ![[image loading]](http://www.abovethelaw.com/images/entries/crybaby%20crying%20kid%20cry%20tear%20tears%20Above%20the%20Law%20blog.jpg) | ||
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:19 GTR-2-Go wrote: 4 If only I could ban staff (THANKS REKRUL)... | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
On the other hand if a bunch of ROFL one-liners don't get banned I should be OK since on the whole I'm a rather respectful poster + I try to get 1.5 liners just to follow the rules. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:17 Beyonder wrote: Definitely room for improvement, and those were just your latest posts. Elaborate and don't insult so much or you won't last here. 5.5 Mmm sorry, but well i was a bit angry because Notsorry bragged about TPPking in diablo hc mode and it made me angry. Oh and i was joking with forst, he is a friend. I think my main problem is more one liners than being bm ( you can check my whole post history, you wont find more than 10 "bm" posts. ) | ||
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
I am guilty of one-liners sometimes to show support in Liquibet, but I suppose a lot of people do that. Hopefully I'll improve. | ||
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10826 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:21 randombum wrote: 5? A lot of my posts are in mafia where they are fairly long and elaborate. Otherwise I have a few gems here and there, but there are a lot of one-liners or "Haha that was funny thats for making my day funny poster" types. Edit: This is my first time seeing/noticing beyonder, does he usually post a lot or am I just blind? + Show Spoiler + On May 16 2008 07:40 randombum wrote: Yep, when you get to college the attitude is that there is too much information for a teacher to cover it in a semester, so you have to read/study on your own in addition to the teacher. Since 1 year of an AP class is equivalent to a semester in college you must expect that the students must read and study on their own instead of just relying on the teacher. Granted, if the teacher is bad it rather sucks for the class, and then you must learn on your own. Besides its not like AP tests are super difficult, you only need like a 60% for 4 or 5 which most colleges accept. If these were students who studied super hard on their own and their teacher sucked so much they couldn't pass then you can blame the teacher. But the same students who would study hard are usually not the ones drawing dicks/writing offensive stuff On July 04 2008 12:56 randombum wrote: I like how all the cops are white, and all the soldiers are black. Comparative to others, your posts don't really contain that many oneliners. Not an incentive for you to do that more, though. You seem witty and seem to enjoy yourself. Didn't catch and insult in there. Minus points for not knowing me, of course. 7.3. | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
Other times, I try to specifically justify how I feel and try to ignore flame wars to get some debate back on track. | ||
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:37 SayaSP wrote: I don't really know about my "grade" but I do have alot of one liner posts. I do insult but it's usually to familiar people that I know will not take me too seriously. As for the contribution part I don't know what true contribution is, it's not as good as fight_or_flight's case but I usually give people answers to what they are looking for and I try to keep out of stuff I'm not interested in. Oh and I added some hilarity to some TeamLiquid entities with Chojja Boy and the Reaver Song. Other than helping raithead, I don't really do much. And I was pretty sure all my contributions to the political/economic threads would get me a low grade. | ||
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:16 clazziquai wrote: I'm going to rate myself out of 5/10 because most of the time, i probably post short things and making short comments but other times i do things such as live battle reports, explaining things, i guess ^-^ and i entertain?? hehe one of the "kid gets caught playing games" and chibi testie ;] + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2008 11:54 clazziquai wrote: no homo On July 01 2008 12:22 clazziquai wrote: ... On July 04 2008 08:47 clazziquai wrote: wow... On July 03 2008 14:08 clazziquai wrote: snet gtfo All in your latest posts. I'm not saying one of these is a crime, but too many most certainly is not appreciated. I remember warning you before and it only worked a little but- not enough. Temporary ban, as you seem to be a nice fellow, but your posting behaviour is under par: stop insulting and post more like I know you can post, good. Side-effect: not a long ban for being honest and introducing me to clazziquai, which I appreciate. | ||
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:30 Camlito wrote: 5 - My posts are short aswell and they don't contribute too much. + Show Spoiler + On May 25 2008 01:24 Camlito wrote: Note: these interpretations are stretched, and I don’t know if there any good (I have lots of doubts). But right now the town seems fucked after the recent blue killings, so I may aswell try and contribute anyway I can. Clue 1: He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. It seems like he ran into a mirror. Clue 2: With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. I feel this is very key to finding mr.blonde, and have not found any relation yet. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving straight into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. Turning right and climbing up to find mr.brown. Sort of mirroring his position with mr.blonde. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Another indication of this. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Clue 3: Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer In this instance, mr white leans back a bit onto a car, while mr blonde walks forward slightly as if he is keeping mirrored with him. to the building to get a better look. He could see d.arkive running through some corridors looking for someone, anyone. He found Hittegods. d.arkive ran towards Hittegods as he was examining some photos and hit a button. An explosion ripped apart nearly half of the building and it sent everyone outside ducking for cover as debris flew all over. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people Mr blonde dodges, dodging can be seen has turning or twisting your body, your arms may move aswell. While pointing seems to be the opposite as he moves his body over a bit, and arms forward. getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead. It specifically states Mr.Blonde backs off, and as he does, mr.white is right there forwarding the strike. Clue 4: G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks. He seems to be mirroring narutos’ character Clue 5: Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife. Mr. Blonde had AmorVincitOmnia pinned up against a wall and Cottonmouth had Alventenie on another. AmorVincitOmnia pushed and shoved and tried to get free but Mr. Blonde stabbed three more knives into each arm and three into each leg. Then to finish him off he stabbed two more into AmorVincitOmnia's chest. Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie Ok this one is to obvious, they are mirroing eachothers movements and style as if its planned out. Ok this one is to obvious, they are mirroing eachothers movements and style as if its planned out. And for the record, some of these “mirror” interpretations mean the opposite, and some mean mirroring as in copying. Ok going through profiles, the only mirror i see is nemY For a moment I thought I wasn't going to run into a post over a few words, but I found one! A cool one even! Many one liners, if you can even count em. So maybe that's a small point, but one liners aren't necessarily bad. Besides that, you don't seem to flame nor qualify the bad parts Mani mentioned. 6. | ||
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demonic_phate
United States442 Posts
my posts have bad grammar, are too short, and mostly include jokes that aren't funny... My only posts that are fairly long are my blog entries which suck anyway and now that I reflect are quite emo :/. In fact this is most likely going to be my longest post in a while. However, I would like to point out that I have been in China the past few weeks and have not had time to access the internet so keep that in mind while evaluating my recent posting :/ also a temp ban wouldnt really affect me as tommorow I'm going to go to a camp w/o internet access for roughly 3 weeks in which I will learn how to read and write in chinese... just saying.... | ||
NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
I post a lot, and I think there are some good ones in there but perhaps I could raise the quality - in addition to increasing the knowledge base I have available to discuss, contribute etc. | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
EDIT: I do beat up on KwarK a lot, but hey if he didn't cheat on me all the time there would be no need for it. | ||
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Latham
9560 Posts
I'd rate myself as 4/10. I'm more of an actual lurker then poster but when I post it's most likely useless things in the most neutral grounds. As far as I remeber I didn't insult anyone here. Most of my posts are probably in the sports and games forum with a few one liners in general and like 2 big posts in SC2? I suck =( | ||
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
Seems like everyone rates themselves 5. I was going to go say 4 but I felt like http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=72894 redeemed me a little tiny bit. Plus I helped Sonuvbob fix a pretty big security hole in the PM system. But most of my posts are nonsensical and useless. I have absolutely NO IDEA where my 500 posts came from. It feels like i've made 10 useful posts in my TL career. I've probably posted loads of worthless crap in the SC2 forum (though SC2 and Gomtv is not why I got into progaming, it just happened to coincide with my discovery of it). And when I don't post a 1-liner I ramble and ramble on. I hope I make the cut, I've grown attached to this place already as ridiculous as it sounds. edit: if there's any areas I should concentrate on improving on feel free to tell me. I have noticed that at times I sound condescending to people when I really don't honestly mean it that way, just something about the way I talk, my dad does this too. I try to avoid that. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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Hittegods
Stockholm4640 Posts
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0z
Luxembourg877 Posts
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
Although my knowledge of matchups means I don't really have a great deal of things to offer in the live report threads, I try and make arguments/posts picking up on facts other people miss so I contribute in these aspects, as well as arguing about progaming placement/etc and asking for clarification so my knowledge can improve. There are a fair number of one line posts in my history and I don't really contribute anything special, but fundamentally I think I'm a fairly decent poster, flipping towards below average every now and then. However, that is balanced out by the fact I tend to be fairly easygoing and who doesn't try to get in anyone's way or step on any toes. This forum is better when people are chilled, but still passionate imho, and I try and stay that way in how I conduct myself. There, I think I've been honest. All up to your judgment though staff. | ||
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:42 gLyo wrote: I'll give myself a 6, since that seems pretty average and I've always thought of myself as an average and rather unremarkable poster. I don't contribute to much, but I don't think I bring anything down, either. I'd give you a 6 too. You almost exclusively post one-liners, but generally your one-liners do contain some information, and are better than just "rofl". Once or twice you do attack other members with one-liners, and while I may agree with you, you should try to back up your opinion a bit more. So yeah, 6. Put some more effort into posting, but you seem like a useful poster in general. On March 04 2008 10:09 gLyo wrote: The difference between Dave Chapelle and you is that Dave Chapelle is actually funny. You just sound like an incredibly racist asshole. On March 10 2008 14:51 gLyo wrote: Atheism is the lack of belief in a religion. Science is nothing like a religion. | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
Happy purging. | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3999 Posts
my posts definitely lack any quality, but then again i don't post much, sometimes it's a one-liner, sometimes it's just my excitement. although previously when i could post on a more constant basis i did post some good thoughts of myself. Also i'm friends with politeness and common sense which is a key to not be thrown away from any house i visit. So i guess i'm 6 and my former posts should speak for it. | ||
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Xiberia
Sweden634 Posts
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
Mainly just short statements | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:50 NotSupporting wrote: 5, I have posted alot of short comments in "live threads" and so on which was not really needed. Also I am fairly new to sc so I am not the best person to write guides and stuff - yet. Still I have afaik most of the time been gm to everyone(?). I have to agree with you. 5/10. Ignoring the live-report threads (which are mostly one liners in any case, no-one expects you to make deep, insightful comments while watching a live-stream), you still make too many useless comments. As you said, you are mostly not bad mannered, but occasionally you post your own opinions as fact without backing them up at all. 5/10 because your one liners are mostly useless one-liners, and because your posts often have potential to be better, but you just don't put the effort in. On July 03 2008 20:30 NotSupporting wrote: There is NO god. On July 03 2008 03:53 NotSupporting wrote: Never trust a hacker? On July 01 2008 20:44 NotSupporting wrote: Flash! | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
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stenole
Norway868 Posts
I don't spend too much time formulating my posts so they are probably poorly worded. On the other hand, I only post when I think there is something I can add to a thread or something other people have failed to mention. I'm not a good contributor though. Make the temp ban short plz. | ||
Chosi
Germany1302 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
srsbsns + Show Spoiler + Probably 4/10, my posts are mostly attempts at humour. | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:52 demonic_phate wrote: 3.5/10 my posts have bad grammar, are too short, and mostly include jokes that aren't funny... My only posts that are fairly long are my blog entries which suck anyway and now that I reflect are quite emo :/. In fact this is most likely going to be my longest post in a while. However, I would like to point out that I have been in China the past few weeks and have not had time to access the internet so keep that in mind while evaluating my recent posting :/ also a temp ban wouldnt really affect me as tommorow I'm going to go to a camp w/o internet access for roughly 3 weeks in which I will learn how to read and write in chinese... just saying.... I'd say 7/10. While your posts aren't gramatically perfect, as you pointed out, and you often make silly jokes, those things aren't really important. You try to help where you can, and you make decent length posts every now and again. Mostly, the fact that you try to be helpful where you can counts in your favour. You don't need to write an essay every post to be a good poster, as long as you contribute in areas where you have knowledge in, you can be a good poster. | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:53 nevergg wrote: 8? I post short replies to other people's topics, but I have taken alot of photos and only really posted blogs with photo content. Easy 8. You rarely post without the purpose of the post being to help someone, or to post your photos. Definitely a good poster  | ||
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iD.NicKy
France767 Posts
all this thread doesn't look like tl sorry hehe | ||
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wo0py
Netherlands922 Posts
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
Had a few disputes with my reppack thread that I'm not proud of | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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ulszz
Jamaica1787 Posts
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inlagdsil
Canada957 Posts
If not... Also, I hope I have been able to keep my bizarre zergling fetish hidden from everyone. + Show Spoiler + Oh no! | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:55 Ancestral wrote: Alright, these ratings are harsh. If you have the time, you can evaluate me and be ruthlessly honest like you are with everyone else. I think I've been doing well enough to not be temp banned, though I'd accept it if I get a low score and it would give me more motivation to improve in those areas I mentioned ;p I post a lot, and I think there are some good ones in there but perhaps I could raise the quality - in addition to increasing the knowledge base I have available to discuss, contribute etc. The two posts in this thread are your two longest posts in your last 50. You seem to know how to make good posts, as your longer posts are always well written, but they're few and far between. With that said, you rarely post one word comments or one line comments, and generally have the decency to post at least a few sentences, even if it just means three lines instead of one. So 6.5/10 seems like a fair score to me. | ||
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
I post if I think I have something to contribute to the thread, whether it be an opinion or a helping hand. Also, I post interesting math problems for people's enjoyment. | ||
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Centric
United States1989 Posts
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
I don't really contribute much; but I'm not really doing anything harmful. Historically, I tend to lurk on boards more than I post, as I even lurked here without an account for sometime before deciding to make an account (and the account was made mostly to Liquibet) | ||
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joewest
United States167 Posts
Most of my posts aren't very useful, but I haven't done anything outright dumb in my opinion. Actually a temp ban for a month or so would probably help me a lot, as it could help keep off the site. Teamliquid is like candy... sometimes I just can't get enough and it begins to hurt me. Even if you don't find me worthy of purging, a temp ban would be received graciously nonetheless. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
I argue too much but I'm pretty honest with my posts and I think they're usually insightful or at least backed with some amount of truth and research. I think it's been a while since I made an attack that was uncalled for, but maybe that's just my opinion. I also try to help where I can, like the computer hardware or working out threads. In blogs I take things a bit lighter. | ||
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
With that said, I'd rate myself a 5. I rate myself this because it's the most neutral answer I can think of. I've never been banned from here (let alone come close that I'm aware of), I can't even remember posting a single one-liner, I very rarely get into arguments or insult anyone here, and generally speaking quite a bit of thought is put into even seemingly insignificant posts. However, I very rarely post, I don't follow the pro scene anymore and haven't played much StarCraft at all in over 5 years (although before 5 years ago I played and followed the scene quite a bit), I very rarely have anything to contribute to the site (at least in my own eyes), I've willingly shared a room with PuertoRican on more than one occasion, and I guess you could say being a WarCraft 3 fan automatically makes me kind of like Satan's Child here or something. Those are some pros and cons off the top of my head, and I think those are a fairly good justification for why I rated myself what I consider to be neutral. So, tear into me | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:55 besiger wrote: 5, maybe 6, i try to help when i can but i dont contribute that much, and i dont really think i ever insulted anyone, or at least i dont try to. EDIT: I do beat up on KwarK a lot, but hey if he didn't cheat on me all the time there would be no need for it. I'd say 5 here unfortunately. There are days when you just post one liner upon one liner upon one liner. There is one strip of time where you posted roughly 20 one liners in a row over a period of five days. While I haven't really found a post where I feel that you showed bad manners, I feel that you have to work on your posting quality a bit. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
1 , I've made some decent posts( if i can say so without the intention of sounding overly selfish) but i have tons of one-liners and horrific ones that negate that.Usually i put a good amount of effort into my threads/blogs but the wrong kind of effort, per se, more than often, that gets a couple of of my threads closed and my blogs rated 1's . ~Oh , and i forgot to mention i get flamed nearly every time i make a thread | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:58 Latham wrote: LoL. I'd rate myself as 4/10. I'm more of an actual lurker then poster but when I post it's most likely useless things in the most neutral grounds. As far as I remeber I didn't insult anyone here. Most of my posts are probably in the sports and games forum with a few one liners in general and like 2 big posts in SC2? I suck =( 7/10 As you say, you don't post very often, but your posts are decent when you do post them. There are almost no one-liners in there, and when you post, your post often contributes to the discussion. All in all, you seem like you're having a good time, and your posts, while not being packed with information, seem to reflect this. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
7.5 | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
You guys from sc2 forum? | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3809 Posts
I usually post most doing the odd LR. | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On July 05 2008 18:14 Hittegods wrote: 6 I guess, too many one-liners. I do however never flame, and sometimes I try to make more than basic jokes. I used to do some live reporting as well. 5/10 unfortunately. You have only made one post in your last 50 that isn't a one liner. As you say, you never flame and you occasionally make some cute jokes, but you can really just try to put a touch more effort into your posts. I don't expect people to always write essays, or make posts that contribute to the thread even, sometimes just participating in the community is fine. But if you just participate, try to participate with fewer one-line or even one word comments. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
When theres something i can say to help, ill do, but most of the times im in too much of a rush to make super elaborate posts. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
apart from the gfx i usually post 1 liners and useless crap | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
If we feel that you need an official reprimand for your posting quality, then we might give you a few days of not-posting, otherwise we'll let you go with just a warning. All in all, we'd just like to see more quality posting. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3999 Posts
On July 05 2008 19:40 HeadBangaa wrote: Question: In which forums is quality the most important to the site keepers? Maybe you could rate them in order. Without News/Featured Threads/Replays Tournaments Broodwar Strategy/SC2 - cannot differ they both are therorycrafting in general General Sport and Games Blogs | ||
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
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0z
Luxembourg877 Posts
On July 05 2008 19:32 alffla wrote: 6/10 apart from the gfx i usually post 1 liners and useless crap you can say so much with one line | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 05 2008 19:43 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: I disagree, you can tell the quality of the poster by the quality of his blog imoWithout News/Featured Threads/Replays Tournaments Broodwar Strategy/SC2 - cannot differ they both are therorycrafting in general General Sport and Games Blogs Of course there are exceptions, but its always a good sign of the poster | ||
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qet
Australia244 Posts
On July 05 2008 17:35 Boblion wrote: Mmm sorry, but well i was a bit angry because Notsorry bragged about TPPking in diablo hc mode and it made me angry. Oh and i was joking with forst, he is a friend. I think my main problem is more one liners than being bm ( you can check my whole post history, you wont find more than 10 "bm" posts. ) ohh yeah TPPK in hardcore makes me angry too for those of you who dont know, if you die in hardcore, your character is GG - cannot be used ever again; tppk is a hack that lets you quickly hostile a player and then enter a tp to kill them. imagine playing months to build your char to then have some punk kill it - not even in a fair duel! its just outright vandalism and I despise people who gain pleasure from doing it. my point is, i agree with your mild putdown of "stfu" to that hacker - he deserves more | ||
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KingFool
Canada428 Posts
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Wala.Revolution
7582 Posts
But I would give myself some credit for translating =). I translated the Pusan and am working on ToSsGirl one (which is pretty long). Oh and I made a thread on a hack scanner that my friend developed. Hope you guys utilize it. | ||
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Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
I did a lot of more or less lengthy posting in the euro cup threads. (last month) I tend to do one liners sometimes, but they are often compressed versions of long posts i could write.. dunno if i want to change that. but i definitely want to contribute more in the form of readable and understandable posts for others. | ||
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Carefree
United States1571 Posts
I usually just lurk in the General and Broodwar categories, and only post when I feel like I need to let someone know that what they did was especially amazing. In the Tourneys section, I feel that I do a decently good job of keeping people informed and expressing my opinion. I've made two (very nice in my opinion) event threads. I do some live reporting sometimes, and though I may not have much strategical insight, people need to know what's going on. I find it fun to make reporting threads on events involving my favorite players. Other times, I go and hype or support them, or comment on the latest progaming gossip. Most importantly though, I never flame. I don't see a point to it- if I see a problem, I keep it to myself. No need to cause chaos. It feels rather relaxed and carefree. | ||
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
I am so screwed. Oh and zulu? The best posters are the FE writers, translators and nevergg for the photos I guess I'll stick with VOD watching *Hides in a hole* | ||
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KingFool
Canada428 Posts
On July 05 2008 19:50 Plexa wrote: I disagree, you can tell the quality of the poster by the quality of his blog imo Of course there are exceptions, but its always a good sign of the poster I disagree in a different way. Tournaments imho should have informative and quality filled posts until the games start perhaps. After that I'd expect things to lighten up quite a bit. I'd hope that people cheer for starcraft games in a similar way to how I would cheer my favorite hockey team or player. Lots of criticism, praise, etc for an all around energy filled thread. On the other hand Strategy/SC2 deserve to be near or at the top. Most of the time people are either posting community use full information in these forums, or asking for help. In either event the "OP" and the posts following suit should have quality emphasized. (I guess I'm writing this to try and fix my flaws) Strategy/SC2: For the reasons I previously mentioned. General: Not the typical general forum found on most sites, and not the same general thread I think it used to be. Containing a lot of world news or threads such as this one. The tone in here has become more serious. Broodwar: If you play broodWar this forum seems more like a hang out of sorts. Filled full of geeky little gems I personally cant wait to read. Tournaments: For the reasons I previously mentioned. Sport and Games: This is a thread I almost never venture into and have no right to talk about. Blogs: Although I agree with "you can tell the quality of the poster by the quality of his blog" I still think that a blog should allow uncriticized freedom from scrutiny so long as it's not harmless. | ||
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Carefree
United States1571 Posts
I feel that event OPs should look professional and look like a lot of thought has been put into them. Teamliquid, as a news site, needs this to step further into this e-sports journalism. The news section has already been thoroughly polished by staff, but some event OPs just look bad. I understand that, being foreigners, we cannot do much except photoshop and formatting. We simply don't have the luxury of understand Korean and going to the live events. However, I try and add meaningful pictures, statistics, and formatting. At the very least, we can make those threads look neat. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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B1nary
Canada1267 Posts
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
But apart from the pgl live reports (which I enjoyed very much), and the mafia game I count ~30 posts last month, none of them very good. I'm generally nice to people though. I'll say 5 | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 05 2008 20:21 KingFool wrote: imho tournaments are easily the least respectable places on this forum.. generally the ops are pretty good, not always but generally.. and after that things just become 1 line frenzys with one person reproting and 50 people going "go flash!" "bisu build" etc I disagree in a different way. Tournaments imho should have informative and quality filled posts until the games start perhaps. After that I'd expect things to lighten up quite a bit. I'd hope that people cheer for starcraft games in a similar way to how I would cheer my favorite hockey team or player. Lots of criticism, praise, etc for an all around energy filled thread. On the other hand Strategy/SC2 deserve to be near or at the top. Most of the time people are either posting community use full information in these forums, or asking for help. In either event the "OP" and the posts following suit should have quality emphasized. (I guess I'm writing this to try and fix my flaws) Strategy/SC2: For the reasons I previously mentioned. General: Not the typical general forum found on most sites, and not the same general thread I think it used to be. Containing a lot of world news or threads such as this one. The tone in here has become more serious. Broodwar: If you play broodWar this forum seems more like a hang out of sorts. Filled full of geeky little gems I personally cant wait to read. Tournaments: For the reasons I previously mentioned. Sport and Games: This is a thread I almost never venture into and have no right to talk about. Blogs: Although I agree with "you can tell the quality of the poster by the quality of his blog" I still think that a blog should allow uncriticized freedom from scrutiny so long as it's not harmless. While the people who post comments to blogs generally aren't of the highest quality, the blogger themselves give an indication as to how they post e.g haji's spam blogs, and hajis rather longwinded insightful blogs; match perfectly to his posting habits | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
I try to read and leave it at that if I don't have anything good to add with a post. I also try to avoid one liners except in hype threads etc, i.e. "Tushin fighting!" Some posts I'm proud of, some posts I aint, but I always try to preview them before posting. survive? | ||
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Dariush
Romania330 Posts
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
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goldenkrnboi
United States3104 Posts
i usually only really contribute in the live report threads. most of my other posts are one-liners/really short. | ||
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
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HighTimes
Taiwan342 Posts
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MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
well that's cute | ||
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Vin{MBL}
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
where does that rank? | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
Am i gonna get assimilated? | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On July 05 2008 21:44 IdrA wrote: all my recent posts are explaining why people are stupid in the sc2 forum where does that rank? 10 ez, progamer status outranks everthing | ||
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On July 05 2008 21:56 Showtime! wrote: I'd say a 6 IdrA because you've been arguing almost the same old thing with the same old people time after time. Your arguments might be good, but hell we all know where it is going to go and there are too many trolls there. They don't want to see it from your side of things, so I'd just let it go for the time being. better idea: give me a 10 and ban all of them | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
I posted a lot of one-liners but 50%+ of the time, I'm talking to a friend/acquaintance. Sometimes productive posts, though not that long. Also barely posted in the last couple of weeks. | ||
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
However, I do try to be helpful in most of my responses in general and am mostly non-malicious in my debates with others. I've also got quite a few lengthy posts to speak of, even recently, and I am generally more inclined to speak when I actually have something to say rather than post short quips/memes. Edit: I've had a bit of an afterthought here, completely unrelated to my rating. It is probably just coincidence, but perhaps TL is being cleansed in preparation/forethought due to the higher progamer exposure some of our members have been enjoying lately? It would make sense to not want piles of one-liners to great the eyes of those you are trying to impress upon the magnitude of TL's coverage and devotion. It might also explain the pick up in activity from some of the older staff, such as Bey, though I guess purging in and of itself might just be fun. :p | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
IdrA, that works for me because like I said before: many of them are posting the same useless shit over and over again. It really pisses me off. It's as if we're fighting to have the last word and whatever happened to banning people who won't drop the MBS vs. Anti-MBS until beta? Surely, we can discuss Blizzard's new features like the new 'gayser extraction' (1000 gas; 2x gas at main doesn't cut it mathematically speaking Blizzard) as IdrA would say, but that doesn't mean we have to re-hash the same old arguments time and time again. | ||
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Woyn
United Kingdom1628 Posts
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Smokin_Squirrel
Korea (South)674 Posts
SMOKIN_SQUIRREL DELIVERS | ||
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keit
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But then again I haven't been a member for very long, account was made purely for Liquibetting at start, but I found it interesting to post in the forum once in a while recently. | ||
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
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wurm
Philippines2296 Posts
5/10 | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
6. More of my quality speech is left in PMs. | ||
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indecision
Germany818 Posts
Didn't insult anyone though, so I'm leaving myself out of the 1-3 area. | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11575 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
99.9% of my posts are 1 liners | ||
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Siefu
Australia205 Posts
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chiflutz
Romania1025 Posts
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Ghin
United States2391 Posts
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KwarK
United States42516 Posts
My posting frequency went to around 1/5 of my usual because I kept deleting the crap I was about to post. With much less trolling and one liners I was left useful strategy forum posts and relevance. That said, I didn't contribute anything glorious to the forums so the 9 and 10 eluded me. | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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Terranesque
119 Posts
I'm pretty helpful. | ||
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Gaetele
Esper760 Posts
In my defense, SayaSP and IntoTheWow told me I had to post more ;_; | ||
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Krohm
Canada1857 Posts
I don't know you tell me if I should/need to improve. | ||
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
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iLjh
United States160 Posts
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
i sometimes help people with some other games and topics, like the PS:T one, but in sc forums my contributions consist generally of thanking other people for their contributions :/ | ||
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[iD]faiyth
Canada134 Posts
I don't think I post very much on TL.net, I guess I'm more of a 'I-check-here-every-single-day-to-see-what's-good-to-read' guy. Although I do admit that I have some one-liner redundant posts. In my self-defense, I would claim that it's due to the fact that most of those posts of mine go in stupid threads to begin with. But on a whole, I think I do have a lot of respect for a lot of the TL.net'ers. And I never flame or insult anyone. Though I guess it's really up to you. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
I suck at posting stuff. | ||
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distant_voice
Germany2521 Posts
I don't contribute a lot, but if I post I'm either trying to help, expressing my opinion without insulting anyone in the process or asking a question. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
ruh oh. | ||
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OrderlyChaos
United States1115 Posts
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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BreaK
Canada890 Posts
explanation: I'd like to call to attention this particular post On July 03 2008 13:52 ClouD.BreaK wrote: It explains it in the main post... edit: 6 teams. Because I don't wanna be a dick and not just tell you. The edit happened before any of this Purge 2008 stuff, I thought to myself "Well that wasn't very nice, I'll fix it." Also, I always carefully review my posts, try to have excellent spelling and grammar, and adhere to the idea that's been re-introduced several times during the purge (the dinner guest one). One the other hand, I have a few useless posts (ex: "GO GO FLASH!") in some of the hype/tourney threads. So I'm not perfect. | ||
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prayanavita
Hong Kong86 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
EDIT : i did have a useless post in the ask questions for july thread yesterday though... Not counting my blogs of course... | ||
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
PLZ DONT BAN ME !!! I WILL DO ANYTHING !! JUST DONT BAN ME !!! | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
Also I have a tendency not to read my posts before hitting post, but instead I just post and edit it within like 10 seconds. | ||
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Stegosaur
Netherlands1231 Posts
I write some oneliners in Liquibet as well, but apart from that I try to avoid them like the plague. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
My posts are immaculate works of art. They improve the quality of life of anyone that reads them. Without me the forum would collapse into a singularity of crappy one-liners and flames. I am responsible for 1/2 the ad revenue on this site. My posts cure cancer and turn water into wine. No one that peruses my threads ever fails to shed tears of joy. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
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Ozarugold
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Hm...I'd give myself a 4 for all the useless one-liners I usually write and a 7 for not being an ass...so 5.5 I guess. Right? | ||
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Lycaeus
United States1420 Posts
Though I can probably stop posting the random stray thoughts from now on and actually take time out to think about a post I will make from now on | ||
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HeavenS
Colombia2259 Posts
I used to do a replay thread every once in a while where i would go through every sc site i knew and find the sickest reps i could find and gather them together in a single thread. I might start doing that again if ppl are interested. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Lisk
Latvia376 Posts
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FuJi
United States104 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + JIJI was just banned by Klogon. That account was created on 2007-12-01 08:23:29 and had 291 posts. Reason: Lol okay. Purged. edit: actually my posts are pretty shitty recently. i blame the dota thread | ||
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Avius
Iraq1796 Posts
I like this PURGE idea, it's my first purging to experience :D | ||
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
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Polemarch
Canada1564 Posts
Thanks mods for all the feedback, this looks like a TON of work. How do you look at one-liner fanboyism? I generally like when others do it -- it adds to the atmosphere. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
I try to help in the strategy forum though i dont know every single aspect of the game and sometimes im not in the mood to help those 1 line OPs and i just respond them with some 1 line crap myself. And well people lost interest in my tourneys it seems, i still have the battle reports of the last tourney heh, i didnt post because i figured no one would care. If there was something else with which i could help i would. Oh and sorry about that strategy project i totally slacked on that and only wrote like a page of.. suggestions, but then it seems like everyone else slacked too :S | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20010 Posts
On July 05 2008 19:35 Plexa wrote: Probably about 8.5 imo 10/10 easy <3 | ||
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ShcShc
Canada912 Posts
No point in rating our posts. Each posts contribute to TL.net's fun factor whether it's a well-thought post or a shitty flame post. Only exceptions are troll topics/posts. Screw ratings. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
My OP posts are always decent, my strategy forum replies are always thoughtful, my other forum replies are ranging from casual kind, to thoughtful, and my blog replies range from crap to thoughtful, depending on the OP, depending on the tone of the blog. Things I'm guilty of in the last 50 or so posts: + Show Spoiler + On July 04 2008 07:48 PsycHOTemplar wrote: Crap. In response to a fellow admin from BWMN who's shown me his poetry before, so it's more to tease him than anything else. Sorry that only he would see for or against that. On July 03 2008 06:46 PsycHOTemplar wrote: Is it any surprise that every shocking news thread is created by a person with less than 300 posts :O Just an observation. This isn't news. Health care in America has always been terrible if you don't have money. In any case, people with mental disorders are scary, so I can see people not exactly knowing what to make of the woman squirming about on the floor... maybe she's just having a fit or something, who knows; All you know in that situation is that you're uncomfortable being a part of it. In another random news thread. You know it's true, but I promise I'll never mention post count again On July 05 2008 07:48 PsycHOTemplar wrote: I'm not sure which I dislike more... Your reading comprehension, or that you like OakHill :O I don't really have an excuse for this one. I was being a dick :X Overall.. I dunno, in the last few days my posts have been nothing miraculous, and probably reflect badly on me, but I've gone thru the BWMN database and selected the best maps, which made a thread a featured thread, I've made two neato SC videos, I was a contributing map maker (even if that got me into a lot of dumb arguments) and at least some of my blogs have been funny :O I like TL, and I wish to stay, so I'll clean up the bad side of my act if I'm allowed to stay. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
sometimes i spam but the rest of the time im 2 kewl for skewl | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 06 2008 01:54 ShcShc wrote: What I think: No point in rating our posts. Each posts contribute to TL.net's fun factor whether it's a well-thought post or a shitty flame post. Only exceptions are troll topics/posts. Screw ratings. 1/10 | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
i sense some flase modesty from some memebers too :p | ||
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
On July 05 2008 19:35 Plexa wrote: Probably about 8.5 imo Honestly, when I read the op, I thought to myself "So we assume that 10 = Plexa and 1 = ......" | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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dasanivan
United States532 Posts
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thoraxe
United States1449 Posts
I've somewhat posted like an idiot to get post count up, but then again, I don't really post that much. note: I did read my post before I posted. | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
Edit: but then again, I have been posting in the 3 word story a lot o,o | ||
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Conquest101
United States1395 Posts
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
I don't know why that number, but I think that some of my posts are informative and good while others stinks shit (mostly blogs, live reports or random shit/Stupid pro starcraft predictions). I never try to be mad or bad against someone but if I had a bad day, of course that will affect my post towards others. And yes, I've read through this post | ||
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cava
United States1035 Posts
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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KwarK
United States42516 Posts
On July 05 2008 19:08 Daigomi wrote: I'd say 5 here unfortunately. There are days when you just post one liner upon one liner upon one liner. There is one strip of time where you posted roughly 20 one liners in a row over a period of five days. While I haven't really found a post where I feel that you showed bad manners, I feel that you have to work on your posting quality a bit. Besiger is fine. He makes some good posts in the strategy forum and his post count reflects how little pointless spamming he does. He's been a member the same length of time as me and yet posted far less. And as he says, he's largely inoffensive, avoiding trolling, flaming and contraversial issues. <3 besiger. | ||
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
so yeah 6 , sucks that im not very good at english.... | ||
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obloquy
United States265 Posts
I often go without posting for weeks at a time. Even when I do post, they are all short. I have a lot of one-liners in liquibet saying who I think will win. Those are pretty meaningless, so I've mostly stopped doing them. | ||
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AdamBanks
Canada996 Posts
My post have been going down hill espically during the last month. I didn't notice it but my 1 liners have creept up to unprecedented levels. I didn't notice, it will be fixed. Too much time in the general forum i think T.T Gives me a bad habbit of posting stuff like LOL UROX and other garbage rofl the video at the top of this page is perfect. | ||
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Narrator
United States868 Posts
I think I barely make it over the minimum. I've posted just to post in the past. I try to make my posts a bit longer to avoid the infamous "One-Liner" though. | ||
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micronesia
United States24664 Posts
Actually I was reading through this thread, and I found this thread very enterprising. I'm impressed it worked so well haha. Edit: With hindsight I wish I had made the following post instead: + Show Spoiler + 1, because every one of my posts is an attempt to further my plan to expose how much Beyonder sucks. In fact, you shouldn't even bother reading my post history... just ban immediately. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
After looking through my posts though I suppose I could do better. But they have always been in tune with the thread and the mood of said thread. The dota thread should be off-limits to good posting though. That is where I show my ASDF. | ||
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
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micronesia
United States24664 Posts
On July 06 2008 02:33 MYM.Testie wrote: Should we run the calculation sequentially, or according to order of operations?20 - 19 + 5 x 98 / 44 - 5.36 = my posting level. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
go purge woohoo | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
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Binky1842
United States2599 Posts
haven't contributed since my trip to wcg finals in october | ||
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tec27
United States3696 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On July 06 2008 03:11 {ToT}Strafe wrote: 10 yeah i back strafe up on being a ten ~_~ | ||
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 06 2008 02:36 micronesia wrote: Should we run the calculation sequentially, or according to order of operations? Sequence its 8.. order of operations in my head i got..11.77 | ||
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Solarian
United States100 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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pat777
United States356 Posts
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misterroboto
Canada27 Posts
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brian
United States9616 Posts
I'd be interested to know what mods think of me. I don't really contribute a whole lot other than years of good behavior and being awesome @ IRC. | ||
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MuShu
United States3223 Posts
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
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brian
United States9616 Posts
On July 06 2008 03:46 thedeadhaji wrote: beyy, what's ma scoreeee 20/10 ez unless its quality/post count then you're fucked | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
On July 06 2008 03:35 Servolisk wrote: 10 on the basis I've only posted < 10 times this month... proof of never making a useless comment! HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SO CLEVER!! | ||
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Pwntrucci[sR]
Canada1519 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
So haji is a 2? | ||
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sztuczyn
Poland694 Posts
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Azazello
United States14 Posts
Argument Since I have so few posts, it's easy to just go through them all. My first post has near-impeccable grammar (improper gerund in the second sentence, even if it's common in spoken English), is pretty insightful, cogent, and aimed at keeping a certain strategy forum poster from hypocracy. It also hedges quite nicely: compliment or insult? Overall I'm quite taken with it, to be honest. #2 is a good faith response to a help request. It is evidence of a willingness to contribute (personally I don't share Smurg's goals, but I am probably good enough to be helpful), is short and to the point but contains enough information to be useful, and obviously doesn't flame anyone. #3 is a haji-style response to a haji blog. Lacking any prior experience with seals inviting themselves aboard a boat I was in, I was quite shocked. Most charitably, it was a bump to a thread deserving of publicity. Least charitably, it's a one liner, which, even if coherent by internet standards, is something of a sin against English. #4 - short reply to a "strategy" question. Honestly I'm not quite sure why I posted it, but at least I appeared to be aware of the pointlessness at the time. (Is this a good thing?) It was, however, unique in at least one respect from all the previous posters' replies, so it may have been worthwhile. #5 - insofar as the three word post thread can be meaningful evidence of a person's post quality -which, I think, is not very far at all, since all I can be credited with is three words, and not even the shortness of the post is impeachable because to post otherwise would be to go beyond the parameters of the thread, and if the parameters themselves are unacceptable, then the thread should have been closed before I posted because a mod posted directly above me (deep breath now) - I would argue that my post is a good one, because it was an attempt to save the thread from mod-damnation by getting GTR-2-Go involved rather than sitting by calling it useless (and thereby discouraging posters from posting). I thought the thread was worth saving because it had the potential of being pretty humorous and witty (rereading it now, it appears that I was wrong). #6 - well, this took about 35 minutes, and I'm not going to reread it now because I have to get ready for a party. I'll be happy to correct errors later. | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 06 2008 04:02 Pwntrucci[sR] wrote: Hm, 6 I guess. Teamliquid isn't better off with me just as it isn't without me. write us more music! | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
On July 06 2008 03:46 thedeadhaji wrote: beyy, what's ma scoreeee Just take your average post length and divide it by your average posts per week and mulitply that by the haji factor. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
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iNCuBuS_
United States905 Posts
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
I tend not to post stupid and obnoxious shit (the recent exception being my post in the now- closed Dan Harold thread) but I don't post stuff that's particularly helpful either. A bunch of my posts are either useless live reporting (OMG REAVER! etc.) or commenting unhelpfully on random news stories. That said, in the threads I post in I tend to be at about the average quality of posts. On the assumption that most people will not be banned in this purge (unless it's like a hard core Stalinist one), I'll give myself a six. That said, if Plexa gets an 8.5, then I get about a 2. | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
Lots of "**** hwaiting!!!" and "LOL" posts T_T I'm just glad i stopped posting in the liquibet threads long ago. I wouldve given myself a 2 if I still did that.... | ||
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Woyn
United Kingdom1628 Posts
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Goosey
United States695 Posts
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4634/terminatoriz3.jpg) 3/10, i think i use too many one-liners. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
, also I like hype threads involving zerg players and I like to post on those stuff like Hwaiting and whatnot. I don't know if blog posts count in this, but some of those I like to think twice before posting. Anyway i guess it's up for the mods to consider....1 week? | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
About 1000 of my posts are also probably "I love sAviOr" in some form or other" | ||
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
I mostly write in battle threads or to praise write ups, hence a lot of one liners or short uninformative posts. And often stupid ones with it, as my Starcraft comprehension is low for a TL member I guess. On the plus side, I never insult people (only an "up your ass" to someone lately, but I apologized next sentence), and do not use rude language that often. And I try to give arguments when I try to make a point in a post. What I think makes my note rise is that I thoroughly post VODs in Yakii's small VOD thread. I try to be as fast and reliable as possible : I hope it helps. | ||
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ahrara_
Afghanistan1715 Posts
1. Trying to get myself killed off in mafia. 2. Short posts lately, although I don't tend to be insulting. 3. Crappy ass blogs. 4. That ridiculous flame war I got into about Iron Man*. * It still sucks. In my defense though, I think my overall record is an 8. edit: I downgrade myself to a 5.5 for being generally very bitter and slightly insulting. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 06 2008 05:43 Uraeus wrote: 6 to 7 What I think makes my note rise is that I thoroughly post VODs in Yakii's small VOD thread. I try to be as fast and reliable as possible : I hope it helps. Uraeus, you honestly deserve at least an 8.5, if only for your work in the Small Vod Thread. It's seriously appreciated man  | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On July 06 2008 04:02 Pwntrucci[sR] wrote: Hm, 6 I guess. Teamliquid isn't better off with me just as it isn't without me. are you crazy? your troy commentary alone, beeing humanities greatest achievement by far, should grant you an auto 10 even if you would do nothing else than spamming insults for the rest of your life. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 06 2008 02:01 Lemonwalrus wrote: my good post:1linerbs ratio is roughly 1:25 =/Honestly, when I read the op, I thought to myself "So we assume that 10 = Plexa and 1 = ......" | ||
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draeger
United States3256 Posts
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unsoundlogic
United States391 Posts
My comments are short, but flame free! I'm more of a reader than a contributor T_T | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On July 05 2008 22:19 XCetron wrote: 3.5, I dont really contribute much and half of my posts are basically just "lol" and variations of it, or quotes. Actually pretty much all of them are. :p | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
For my first week of being back on TL.net (I was totally inactive since like 2006), that would be something like 7 I guess. I usually read my posts before sending them. I tried starting a few threads and, even though they were not very popular, I contributed a little. I try to have content in my posts as much as I can. But I went hard on that HewhaHewha (or something like that) guy, which lowers me to 7. I am actually more of a reader, since I've got to catch up two years of absence. I came around recently and was like "Wtf, where are progamers such as oov, reach, ra, gorush, goodfriend, xellos, midas, kingdom, chojja and all those players that were almost everywhere back then?" Anyway, I don't consider myself deserving a ban or being checked over. | ||
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KwarK
United States42516 Posts
Your good posts are at least 25 lines long though. | ||
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EGoldman
United States110 Posts
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Mynock
4492 Posts
Anyway, we just need bumper stickers for our posts saying "How am I posting?" | ||
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
On July 06 2008 05:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Uraeus, you honestly deserve at least an 8.5, if only for your work in the Small Vod Thread. It's seriously appreciated man Well, thanks a lot ShaLLoW. May the TL mods read you I also get thanked in the VOD thread on a regular basis, and I appreciate this a lot. It is nice to know some of my posts are actually useful. Regarding Mani's OP for the purge, I guess I will ban rude language from now on. I hardly ever swear IRL, why would I on the net? And I will keep the oneliner cheering posts or useless predictions for myself. Unless I have valid arguments to back my words other than "Lecaf rules" or "One day Mah Jae Yoon will rise again". I guess this purge is a good thing in the end (if I do not get banned, that is ) | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Most of my posts are oneliners, or close to it, but generally they are constructive, and I try to do my share. Also, I'm not very active postwise. | ||
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Mynock
4492 Posts
On July 06 2008 07:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: 6-6.5. Most of my posts are oneliners, or close to it, but generally they are constructive, and I try to do my share. Also, I'm not very active postwise. You're 7 posts away from the golden postcount though. | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
However, I might win the postcount to symbolcount award (go on, host a tourney) overall which all makes me very valuable. High symbol count in posts alone makes you a very smart guy, just check this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=31718 On a more serious note, I'd rate my posting quality recently as quite low, but that is due to the miracles of full-time job. Heed my advice, students, better kill yourself before it starts! | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On July 06 2008 07:18 Mynock wrote: You're 7 posts away from the golden postcount though. Okay, so my objective will be to make my 1337th post worthwhile. (And preferably not make the other 6 ones useless) | ||
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Chika
United States74 Posts
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
Anyhow, I'd rate myself below 5. I guess sometimes I have really good comments but probably out of 10 one liners I have been trying to really improve but there is so many times where I just wanna cheer for the players in the tourney section & say rofl every now and then | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 06 2008 07:27 Chika wrote: i guess i am a 6... i got into trouble at first for flaunting myself being a girl. but i think i learned my lesson and now i really try and intellectually talk I am willing to lower my score to a 6 to say: Lol. | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
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Zanno
United States1484 Posts
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Snipinpanda
United States1227 Posts
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Thrill
2599 Posts
I stand by every post i make and if there's ever a problem with the product of what my fingers type, feel free to ban me. It's just since recently i even made an account here to post some stuff in the VOD threads - and have moved on to post opinions, comments and adding to hype. I have never trolled the forums and i believe that's the main contaminating factor which should be bannable unless the trolling is done in an ironic comedic faschion and then preferably in Blogs, not GD. As for the IM type short posts in hype threads like during the BWWI or the Euro Cup - well what do you expect from those of us not there and stuck watching a live stream? Obviously frustration will errupt if the feed goes down. | ||
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Hurricane
United States3939 Posts
I don't tend to have long responses, but I just did a brief check of my last 10-20 posts and I don't feel as if they are low quality... I know I don't contribute much to the site, but I am not a problem either. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On July 06 2008 07:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Okay, so my objective will be to make my 1337th post worthwhile. (And preferably not make the other 6 ones useless) Off to a bad start. :p | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Exactly why I said the next 6 posts, not 7 posts. ... You did this on purpose, didn't you? | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
I've started lurking lately and now I just post in blogs, giving some random opinions. | ||
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
Why does this remind me of the second coming of christ? | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 06 2008 06:56 Mynock wrote: Oh i can see how this will workWhat? Nazi regime déjà vu?? We also have to make ourselves some arm-bands with our markings, and required at all times to wear them in public, right?? First one to dare and rate me gets their teeth pummeled out by... adfasasdfsa...!!! Anyway, we just need bumper stickers for our posts saying "How am I posting?" ![[image loading]](/staff/Plexa/nazi.png) | ||
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
Try not to be an asshole, and not 100% off topic, but my posts arent always long and informative. | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
I read tl.net a lot and I've been here for a long time, but don't post much. when I post, I try to make it so that the post has some content that adds to the topic. when I have something to share, I first review if it's worth of it's own blog entry or thread, and most of it isn't, so I just avoid that - but if something does deserve it, it's usually something that contribues to the society. (or so I like to think) I don't insult people, and I generally avoid 1liners (well, except maybe in # day topics where I'm drooling too much to say anything comprehensible or resonable ) | ||
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decafchicken
United States20010 Posts
On July 06 2008 07:27 Chika wrote: i guess i am a 6... i got into trouble at first for flaunting myself being a girl. but i think i learned my lesson and now i really try and intellectually talk I'd make that more like a 4 for being fat. + Show Spoiler + i'll gladly take a few points off my score for that comment :-p | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
WC3 icons on TL????? Ewwwwwwwwww. | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 06 2008 08:50 decafchicken wrote: I'd make that more like a 4 for being fat. + Show Spoiler + i'll gladly take a few points off my score for that comment :-p <3 | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Snipinpanda
United States1227 Posts
aw, I'm a bad poster | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 06 2008 06:56 Mynock wrote: What? Nazi regime déjà vu?? We also have to make ourselves some arm-bands with our markings, and required at all times to wear them in public, right?? First one to dare and rate me gets their teeth pummeled out by... adfasasdfsa...!!! Anyway, we just need bumper stickers for our posts saying "How am I posting?" What a bullshit analogy. You have complete control over what you post here and if you're shitting up threads nonstop with trolling or are terrible at discussions there's nothing wrong with being reminded that you should probably try a little harder, letting people say whatever the hell they want without giving it a single intelligent thought is what leads to trouble and makes everything extremely unfunny and unreadable. 7, by the way. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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mAKiTO
Colombia4171 Posts
Im probably a 6 on the sports section which is basically where I do 90% of my posting. I dont really post on general to much. | ||
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Lysithea
Sweden204 Posts
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
... is that really what the other forums are like.. Can I buy a subscription to mir for a bit, plzzzz? PM me an offer. | ||
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excel_odin
42 Posts
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
Really depends on how i feel. I've stopped playing starcraft and occasionaly just looked by for results or the general forum. Other than that what can i say. I feel i've got more posts than i deserve. Sometimes i'm just barking out my fanboyism. I should start to blog again. Last month was really soso because i kinda stepped out of the circle. Low post count members started to annoy me. Especialy the ones in the starcraft 2 section. If i see a page full of 20's and 50s i just skip it. | ||
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Mynock
4492 Posts
On July 06 2008 09:06 Frits wrote: What a bullshit analogy. You have complete control over what you post here and if you're shitting up threads nonstop with trolling or are terrible at discussions there's nothing wrong with being reminded that you should probably try a little harder, letting people say whatever the hell they want without giving it a single intelligent thought is what leads to trouble and makes everything extremely unfunny and unreadable. 7, by the way. I see... + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/RoMania.gif?) It's not all that bad, cheer up: | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 06 2008 09:35 Mynock wrote: I see... + Show Spoiler + It's not all that bad, cheer up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNZzJELbFRI Damnit you win I guess. Why would you do a sarcastic comment thing though when noone has even whined about it yet. I mean how the hell is anyone supposed to know it's sarcastic lol usually it's some kind of parody on other users complaining but damn. I mean you're usually serious if it was FS or HB I'd probably get it. | ||
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TehKris
Norway322 Posts
I would rate myself around 6.5 then (above average). I Don't post very long comments, but I that's not really why I'm here either =) | ||
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rANDY
United Kingdom748 Posts
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Mynock
4492 Posts
On July 06 2008 09:41 Frits wrote: Damnit you win I guess. Why would you do a sarcastic comment thing though when noone has even whined about it yet. I mean how the hell is anyone supposed to know it's sarcastic lol usually it's some kind of parody on other users complaining but damn. I mean you're usually serious if it was FS or HB I'd probably get it. Yeah, but I mean... It's not like the tone of my post was THAT serious right? And you posted after the Plexa follow-up too, so i was wondering to just WHAT lengths I should go to seem non-serious then? :/Oh, and there has always been the TL = nazi comparison regarding the moderation, you might just not remember it. | ||
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iCCup.Trent
Argentina450 Posts
Pro's: + Show Spoiler + -I don't insult people -Ocasionally I help when I can, for example recently I re-made the yakii thank you image to include a guys sig that was lost, or when I tried to revive that Muta UMS Challenge after the LAN Latency change, but it's not a lot at all :D Con's: + Show Spoiler + -I don't post nor read a lot -I don't follow the topics I post in a lot -In reality I don't contribute at all to the forum, other than participating in most massive things like polls/liquibet, thus +1ing the number of active people, which is almost nothing -Some of my posts are 1 line cheers to July and Savior lol :D | ||
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Zanno
United States1484 Posts
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Empyrean
16977 Posts
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Snipinpanda
United States1227 Posts
On July 06 2008 10:25 Zanno wrote: Why purge me, I hope you're being sarcastic? I'm not going to try and bother giving myself a rating because I think the entire concept of numerical ratings on everything from movies to video games to Teamliquid posting habits is rather silly and pointless, but at the same time I'm curious where I happen to fall on Beyonder's scale. Plexa was just using his "evil photoshopping" to look at an idea. If not, I'm in the same boat,  | ||
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Beamo
France1279 Posts
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Mynock
4492 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
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yare
507 Posts
Joined in 31st December 2001, but only have 490 posts. My average post per day is .24, so my "contributions" might not be up to par. Some answers do not need long overly verbose responses, so I do try to keep those short. Otherwise I try to be thorough in my responses. I hope when I do post that my ideas do not hamper tl.net. | ||
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
Next, while I type something, I think, "By saying what I'm saying, am I inviting a bunch of flaming?" If I find the answer to be "yes," I press backspace out of that thread as well. I know that when I read certain threads and I have certain points to make, I make sure that I'm not repeating something that has been said before. If it has said before and I have no further contribution, I either keep reading or look through the next thread. I usually don't edit my grammar nor my punctuation, but I do focus on ensuring its accuracy as I write it. I write with the full intention of making logical statements and sentences that everyone in the community can understand. I don't recall having any one-liners on TeamLiquid, but I may be wrong in throwing the towel there. I'm just not entirely sure, but if I do, then they're either few or have some relevance to what their context is, I hope. The only thread where I knowingly made an effort to change my writing style was in the Mafia thread, where, being mafia, I had to attempt to deceive others. Speaking too much or in too large or logical sentences would have been too suspicious, so I attempted to blend in but disappear alongside the other townies. Of course, that didn't work out too well. =P | ||
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
If you think about it, a discussion requires all the different styles of posting, you need the long drawn out posts, establishing points you also need the one liner refutes and the occasional. "Your mom" reply to keep the topic from not getting too serious. I believe you need an awesome time dedicated blog, as well as one that just tells us you took the worlds biggest crap and how good you feel now. Hell even 4chan memes well timed and in moderation aren't hurting anyone. But I believe the biggest problem at the moment is that the forums are being dominated by latter, the lower quality filler crap. | ||
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YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
my posting has gotten a lot worse though. i used to try to contribute as much as i could to the strategy forum, watching replays and giving advice whenever i felt i was capable of doing so. i also used to post a lottt in tourneys/brood war when i followed the korean scene closely. those posts were usually argumentative and sometimes insulting, but they were pretty long and sort of well-informed (i'd hope so anyway). now i dont follow the pro scene anymore so i dont have anything to say there and i've been too lazy to post in the strategy forum. i think a lot of my recent posts have been 'LOL' type posts, or yelling at ppl for posting stupid things in the strategy forum. i've been kinda mean maybe. i dont think i contribute a great deal to the site but i dont think i harm it in any way either. edit: actually im looking at my recent posts and i've been very insulting lately. ill try to stop. | ||
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
On July 06 2008 10:54 yare wrote: 6.5 out of 10 Joined in 31st December 2001, but only have 490 posts. My average post per day is .24, so my "contributions" might not be up to par. Some answers do not need long overly verbose responses, so I do try to keep those short. Otherwise I try to be thorough in my responses. I hope when I do post that my ideas do not hamper tl.net. I'd give you an 8 or so. I mean, ok, you have like a single one-liner every ten posts, but the vast majority of your activity here is positive and helpful. Props. | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
edit: purge and behavioral examination do not sound fine at all... | ||
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
On July 06 2008 10:56 0cz3c wrote: Ima give myself a 7.3 rating. I knowingly screen myself before posting anything. I ask myself, "Is this worthless, or would this be worthwhile for someone to read?" If its the former, I immediately hit the backspace button. Next, while I type something, I think, "By saying what I'm saying, am I inviting a bunch of flaming?" If I find the answer to be "yes," I press backspace out of that thread as well. I know that when I read certain threads and I have certain points to make, I make sure that I'm not repeating something that has been said before. If it has said before and I have no further contribution, I either keep reading or look through the next thread. I usually don't edit my grammar nor my punctuation, but I do focus on ensuring its accuracy as I write it. I write with the full intention of making logical statements and sentences that everyone in the community can understand. I don't recall having any one-liners on TeamLiquid, but I may be wrong in throwing the towel there. I'm just not entirely sure, but if I do, then they're either few or have some relevance to what their context is, I hope. The only thread where I knowingly made an effort to change my writing style was in the Mafia thread, where, being mafia, I had to attempt to deceive others. Speaking too much or in too large or logical sentences would have been too suspicious, so I attempted to blend in but disappear alongside the other townies. Of course, that didn't work out too well. =P You have a couple 'OMG' one-liner types. Overall it's neither good, nor bad. You also have a lot of fluff posts: On May 12 2008 07:00 0cz3c wrote: Nony is incredible <333 On May 12 2008 09:56 0cz3c wrote: ZOMG On May 12 2008 05:55 0cz3c wrote: On July 03 2008 12:10 0cz3c wrote: I wuvs Sea. but not all THAT many. 6ish, I'd say. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 06 2008 10:35 Snipinpanda wrote: dingdingding we have a winnar!Plexa was just using his "evil photoshopping" to look at an idea. If not, I'm in the same boat, | ||
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
On July 06 2008 11:03 Energies wrote: Depending on a persons modesty, I'm willing to bet that almost everyone believes themselves to be a better poster and a better contribution, than they really are. Hell I know I thought that, but reading through my last 15-20 posts, it varied between useful and thought out and just plain nonsensical dribble... in caps lock. If you think about it, a discussion requires all the different styles of posting, you need the long drawn out posts, establishing points you also need the one liner refutes and the occasional. "Your mom" reply to keep the topic from not getting too serious. I believe you need an awesome time dedicated blog, as well as one that just tells us you took the worlds biggest crap and how good you feel now. Hell even 4chan memes well timed and in moderation aren't hurting anyone. But I believe the biggest problem at the moment is that the forums are being dominated by latter, the lower quality filler crap. Agreed, a lot of your recent posts are not-useful filler or one-liners. I'd give you a 5. Nothing out of line, but nothing useful. Overall though, your posting history isn't bad, so it's just a bit of introspection - I need to do that as well | ||
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Nyovne
Netherlands19133 Posts
I'm a 10/10 IRCer though! <3 ^^;; edit: I know you're checking me out now LR and I can see you like what your eyes are telling you. *wink wink nudge nudge* | ||
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brian
United States9616 Posts
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kefkalives
Australia1272 Posts
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goldrush
Canada709 Posts
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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404.Nintu
Canada1723 Posts
I'd say 6. Sorta inconsistent, but I try to be generally helpful. I guess some reflection is required. | ||
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ydg
United States690 Posts
I'll try to post longer and more helpful things more. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
sorry | ||
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Beside_kr
Canada902 Posts
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 06 2008 13:20 CDRdude wrote: I don't know if I should ask this, but can someone tell me how my posting is? Earlier in this thread, I posted my opinion of my own posting, but I don't know if I'm going to get temp-banned, a slap on the wrist, held up as a shining example of manliness, or if ninjas will invade my house and execute me. It's the not knowing that really gets me though. Can some kind mod tell me if I need to defend my house against ninja attacks? (I don't have scanner or ebay up yet) hahaha, this post alone has lifted you up a grade or two in my eyes, although your race icon suggests that you lack Overlord speed and Spore Colonies instead. :p | ||
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Queasy
United States48 Posts
I don't really post much, but I don't think my posts are really hurting anyone. I'll try to keep my farting to a minimum. | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
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soudo
603 Posts
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [results] + Poll: How do you grade yourself? (Vote): 1 (Vote): 6 (Vote): 2 (Vote): 7 (Vote): 3 (Vote): 8 (Vote): 4 (Vote): 9 (Vote): 5 (Vote): 10 | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 06 2008 14:06 soudo wrote: Yea, you're a solid 6 6. Nothing spectacular, but I don't flame and I don't go too crazy on the 3 word responses. perhaps even a 6.5 | ||
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DTDominion
United States2148 Posts
I don't post much but it's generally at least decent. And I think a lot of my StarCraft II posts are really good. I'm sure my opinion's overinflated, but my shit surely isn't ban worthy. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On July 06 2008 13:20 CDRdude wrote: I don't know if I should ask this, but can someone tell me how my posting is? Earlier in this thread, I posted my opinion of my own posting, but I don't know if I'm going to get temp-banned, a slap on the wrist, held up as a shining example of manliness, or if ninjas will invade my house and execute me. It's the not knowing that really gets me though. Can some kind mod tell me if I need to defend my house against ninja attacks? (I don't have scanner or ebay up yet) I'm not big on this rating thing, but maybe 7ish? You should still ninja-proof your house though, you can never be too safe. | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Victor
New Zealand1016 Posts
I dont post too often, half of them were one-liners and sometimes livereport on gomtv games :\ I'll think more before i post next time and produce more quality posts hopefully | ||
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Yogurt
United States4258 Posts
But what more can you expect from a yogurt | ||
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Reflex
Canada703 Posts
On July 06 2008 14:41 Victor wrote: around 5 I dont post too often, half of them were one-liners and sometimes livereport on gomtv games :\ I'll think more before i post next time and produce more quality posts hopefully ^ Oh and I also do that a lot because mostly people say exactly what I want to say :/ | ||
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
I'd say... 6? Ish. | ||
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 06 2008 13:20 CDRdude wrote: Surprisingly good imo o.O i'd give you a 7, 7.5I don't know if I should ask this, but can someone tell me how my posting is? Earlier in this thread, I posted my opinion of my own posting, but I don't know if I'm going to get temp-banned, a slap on the wrist, held up as a shining example of manliness, or if ninjas will invade my house and execute me. It's the not knowing that really gets me though. Can some kind mod tell me if I need to defend my house against ninja attacks? (I don't have scanner or ebay up yet) | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
i dont post as much as i used to but i still post kind of a lot in the dota thread, and if anyone's been reading it they would know it's mostly kinda spam.. but i do make some useful posts in there every once in a while haha rate me beyonder! | ||
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ZZangDreamjOy
Canada959 Posts
Although I rarely post. I think I'm about a 5. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20010 Posts
nobody wants to say 8+ because they think everyone will call bullshit on them, and nobody wants to say below a 5 because they think they'll get banned, so they just say they're a 5-7. Except strafe, he's no tool. A 10 for sure. And plexa, but he underrated himself at 8.5 | ||
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
On July 06 2008 16:28 decafchicken wrote: everyone is giving themselves a fucking 6. nobody wants to say 8+ because they think everyone will call bullshit on them, and nobody wants to say below a 5 because they think they'll get banned, so they just say they're a 5-7. Except strafe, he's no tool. A 10 for sure. And plexa, but he underrated himself at 8.5 Well you know, when plexa rates himself 8.5, it's hard for us to believe that we can be anything higher than a 7. It would be an insult. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
On July 06 2008 16:28 decafchicken wrote: everyone is giving themselves a fucking 6. nobody wants to say 8+ because they think everyone will call bullshit on them, and nobody wants to say below a 5 because they think they'll get banned, so they just say they're a 5-7. Except strafe, he's no tool. A 10 for sure. And plexa, but he underrated himself at 8.5 It's a bell curve =/ | ||
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
I'll give myself a solid 6. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
So maybe 4/10, I don't know. i get the feeling that nobody here knows who i am anyway | ||
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Polemarch
Canada1564 Posts
e.g. of what I consider "good" one-liners. - "Thank you" posts: manner + encourage people to contribute (see Uraeus comment about people thanking him in the small vod thread). - "LOL" posts: like a way of thanking people for making funny jokes. Sometimes it makes me look back and catch a joke that I missed originally too. - "YAA MA JAE YOON" posts: in the right place, like live report threads, hype threads, etc. - add to the atmosphere of the game. This isn't some stale academic forum, even if people like me are. - Concise, insightful comments. (Obviously these aren't huge epic contributions, but I do think they're positive and take almost no time to read.) e.g. of what I consider bad longer posts. - Flames. - Incoherent wall-of-text rants. (People invest time reading these, and then get frustrated because it doesn't have a point or make any sense.) I bring this up because it would be a shame if some misconception discouraged "good" one-liners and encouraged "bad" long posts. I think the best way to evaluate posts is Mani's subjective "don't post like an idiot" guideline. But beyond that, I'd argue that quality should be measured per-word, rather than per-post, because that's what readers care about. That's how I see it anyway... but if there's a consensus disagreeing with it I'll adjust my posting habits. | ||
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
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Sr18
Netherlands1141 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13004 Posts
Maybe a 9 for being overconfident. | ||
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NathanSC
United States620 Posts
Although I don't always have the most to contribute, I don't deter from the conversation or make bad one-liners. Depending on the thread, I usually make an effort to bring something to the table, for better or for worse. And I absolutely love TeamLiquid. | ||
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d4d
Switzerland1066 Posts
Just because I posted mearly 4 or 5 times. | ||
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asla
Japan354 Posts
june was probably a solid 4 | ||
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lakrismamma
Sweden543 Posts
I see no reason for writing stuff just for the sake of it though. Often Im so slow that in subjects that im interested in people have already posted my opinions. edit maybe 5... | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
good morning sir mod! | ||
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
That is because when I post, it's usually not useless crap (unless I somehow stumble upon tl.net when I come home drunk or w/e) I'd like to think that I help some people out in for example the strategy forum and I don't think i've insulted anyone on tl.net or displayed any sort of bad manner in quite a while ;O I've been sorta watching rather than contributing lately though so yeah 6 or 7 seems fine. | ||
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FR4CT4L
Australia697 Posts
Mostly staying to the blog section as my SC knowledge is shall we say, pathetic. I started playing with some friends last year, then ran into TL when looking for strats to beat em =). Hopefully SC2 will put me on a better playing/contributing field around here. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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SiCkShuttle
United States24 Posts
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sith
United States2474 Posts
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On July 07 2008 00:14 SiCkShuttle wrote: Don't worry, posting in stickied topics are fine even if they're old. What you're not supposed to do is resurrect old forgotten topics from like...2-3 months back, and even then you're still given some slack assuming you have something worthwhile to contribute.I will have to rate myself a 1 , seeing as how i joined today and have only posted 5 things. And from what my buddy told me, 2 of those posts were in an old thread (ten commandments) which is supposedly a big no no. Hope i dont get banned after a day, that sure would suck. Wow maybe im a .5, i just accidentally posted this mid-sentence and had to edit. :O Hope ya give me at least til the end of july for a review. | ||
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ThatGuy
Canada695 Posts
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20010 Posts
our curve right now is more like this: ![[image loading]](http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4425/graphlh6.jpg) | ||
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Pads
England3228 Posts
edit: actually it's not | ||
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Neo7
United States922 Posts
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Skittled
United States160 Posts
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Hippopotamus
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phase
United States399 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
from blogs: On July 06 2008 15:54 Raithed wrote: drunkeeeeyyy On July 04 2008 23:07 Raithed wrote: thread fails without pics. On July 04 2008 05:07 Raithed wrote: LOL 5/5 WOULD READ AGAIN. from threads: On July 04 2008 02:43 Raithed wrote: wow.... piece o shit. from the YT getting owned thread. so i would really think im one of those posters that lurk and when one is excited, they would caps lock engaged and type multitude of one-liners. im willing to change! ps; idk how to rate myself, probably a 1. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On July 07 2008 01:12 mikeymoo wrote: I had some trippy dream last night where I wasn't banned from TL but the ox where you type your post was completely greyed out. What a nightmare. LOL I honestly don't know what to give myself, maybe a 5-6? Don't think I've had too many posts in the last month and I'm pretty much a lurker. | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
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Ethenielle
Norway1006 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Good luck with that. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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UmmTheHobo
United States650 Posts
EDIT: I also took a jab at FrozenAbiter, Which most likely was a retarded idea. I did say I was sorry though :3 | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
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SpiritAshura
United States1271 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
check - Do post like an idiot, check - Do insult people, check - Do judge people based on post count, - Read over all your words before you hit post, + Show Spoiler + filled out for Incontrol | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20010 Posts
On July 07 2008 05:37 CharlieMurphy wrote: I'm not very good at rating myself at things because I obviously would be biased in my rating. I would say about a 7.5, I try and post useful and interesting stuff (in my blog)for the most part but there is a lot of filler in the downtime. I can in no way compare to some people who are like 9s/10s permanently contributing to the site such as: Pheer, Yakii, and other uploaders but I do the best with what resources I have. quality: 3 entertainment factor: 12 | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
Also Probably earlier in the month I probably had some short relatively useless posts to shamefully up my post count | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On July 07 2008 05:17 CharlieMurphy wrote: Short Version: check - Do post like an idiot, check - Do insult people, check - Do judge people based on post count, - Read over all your words before you hit post, + Show Spoiler + filled out for Incontrol Well said ^_^ | ||
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XDawn
Canada4040 Posts
Because I rarely post nowadays - more of reading over the craptacular posts that most of you post up.. and mainly because I'm way too lazy to keep going on with an arguement. I just let shit happen. | ||
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Demoninja
United States1190 Posts
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
Do our self reviews get discussed out of this topic by mods ? or you are going to post a review for every self review ? | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
so 7.5, like I said lol | ||
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4502/graphpn9.png) | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5172/graphpn9ss9.png) fixed | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On July 07 2008 04:06 IntoTheWow wrote: 6? Dunno, maybe 5 i "LOL" a lot. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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fonger
United Kingdom1218 Posts
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ViRii
United States826 Posts
Although I still don't understand why you would ban people for saying they are below 5... @_@ | ||
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ShmotZ
United States581 Posts
i haven't posted very much, but when i do its nothing really bad at all. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On July 07 2008 09:08 fight_or_flight wrote: fixed Well I posted mine before MonkeySpanker was banned. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On July 07 2008 05:17 CharlieMurphy wrote: Short Version: check - Do post like an idiot, check - Do insult people, check - Do judge people based on post count, - Read over all your words before you hit post, + Show Spoiler + filled out for Incontrol Thanks charlie You rating me is fucking hilarious. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
I post too many smileys, "..."s, ROFLs, LOLs, etc. I definitely have room to improve, but I always refrain from insulting others, which is somewhat a plus Edit: Also, I believe the majority of my posts are in Hype Threads, with posts such as "GOGO BEST~!!" or "Nal_rA fighting," with no substance whatsoever. Completely harmless imo, but still, very shallow. | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
"I AM NOT WORTHY!!"  | ||
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Jimtudor
Canada259 Posts
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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Holylight
Korea (South)460 Posts
How do you measure quality posting...? I dont see anything good coming out of this and you might even discourage people from even try posting "good" stuff because they feel that they might not live up to the expectations i think the definitions of "contributing" and "quality" are a bit vague here | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27140 Posts
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Xiberia
Sweden634 Posts
On July 07 2008 16:36 Manifesto7 wrote: This thread is basically the biggest ban trap ever created. I wonder if anyone will rate themselves after this. | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
On July 07 2008 16:29 Holylight wrote: since everyone rates themselves 5-7 this is really not interesting and will you (Beyonder "review" everyone??) How do you measure quality posting...? I dont see anything good coming out of this and you might even discourage people from even try posting "good" stuff because they feel that they might not live up to the expectations i think the definitions of "contributing" and "quality" are a bit vague here Pretty much anything thats not rude/super short (Just LOLS or etc), or spam, or anything stupid gives a pass. At least, thats what it looks like. I do not speak for the TL staff who make the real decisions, but from what I've seen follow the rules and your fine. | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 5 | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
That would be a ban factor, were I admin here. But I'm not. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On July 07 2008 16:36 Manifesto7 wrote: This thread is basically the biggest ban trap ever created. On July 08 2008 23:28 caelym wrote: pff i dont need to explain myself to you forum nazis + Show Spoiler + 0 | ||
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draeger
United States3256 Posts
On July 07 2008 16:29 Holylight wrote: since everyone rates themselves 5-7 this is really not interesting and will you (Beyonder "review" everyone??) How do you measure quality posting...? I dont see anything good coming out of this and you might even discourage people from even try posting "good" stuff because they feel that they might not live up to the expectations i think the definitions of "contributing" and "quality" are a bit vague here You either fit or you don't. There really shouldn't ever be a "try" involved with the process. If you have to really put effort into not looking like an idiot and contributing more than a few words on a response, your number will be up eventually. The mindset I use when posting on ANY forum in ANY community is I'm going to say whatever I want whenever I want to. If people don't value my contributions, they can get rid of me. In the end, it's just a forum. Whether you post here or not is nowhere near the end of the world. And honestly, with the "quality" that a lot of people get away with producing on a daily basis, if you are even the remotest bit intelligent you shouldn't have anything to worry about. | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
On July 08 2008 23:28 caelym wrote: pff i dont need to explain myself to you forum nazis + Show Spoiler + 5 joke much? | ||
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kkris
United States19 Posts
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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bluemanrocks
United States304 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
I don't believe I have insulted anyone, since I wouldn't have a reason to anyways. Judging ppl by their post count is retarded imo, kinda like bringing up karma back when I was active in GFAQs. Plus, I have a low post count myself so it would be idiotic of me to judge. I read through my posts to see if I can tweak it to sound better. I don't want to sound stupid ^^ So I've followed the rules, but I haven't truly made any real contributions. Really, I am more of a lurker and I enjoy reading the threads that are posted here and occasionally inserting my input. It's also a definite plus to be able to post while watching a live game, really adds to the experience. I'm not sure what I would give myself, because I don't trust myself with ratings, but maybe atleast a 6? Heh, well I guess you can make the judgment if you like. | ||
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brian
United States9616 Posts
weeaaak. this is no purge. | ||
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XCetron
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
And you call that TL.net pleasure cruise a PURGE?. Come on! - ThE_AdvoCaTe | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On July 09 2008 12:26 Gene wrote: there is definitely not enough bans being handed out for this "purge." weeaaak. this is no purge. second seconded hard | ||
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brian
United States9616 Posts
just give haji and rek their mod powers back, and each a bottle of alcohol, this place will get the proper purge feeling right quick. fusionsdf why are you never on irc anymore? | ||
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XCetron
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
ETA: And for not reading previous posts! On July 07 2008 16:36 Manifesto7 wrote: This thread is basically the biggest ban trap ever created. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 09 2008 12:49 Gene wrote: srsly just give haji and rek their mod powers back, and each a bottle of alcohol, this place will get the proper purge feeling right quick. Alcohol may annihilate their capacity of objectiveness. I disagree. | ||
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XCetron
5226 Posts
On July 09 2008 12:54 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Alcohol may annihilate their capacity of objectiveness. I disagree. I concur, however the fatalities of some of the posters is something we all want. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 09 2008 12:58 XCetron wrote: I concur, however the fatalities of some of the posters is something we all want. This is not the matter that I am discussing. Without any objectiveness, they could ban people that totally do not deserve to be banned, whether by grudge or just incapacity to show sense of judgement. | ||
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UmmTheHobo
United States650 Posts
On July 09 2008 13:00 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: This is not the matter that I am discussing. Without any objectiveness, they could ban people that totally do not deserve to be banned, whether by grudge or just incapacity to show sense of judgement. I doubt if they were that drunk they would be like "HEY LETS GO ON TEAMLIQUID AND BAN PEOPLE MUAHHAHAHAH!" It would probably be more like, let's shoot fireworks into the neighbors house. | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
On July 09 2008 13:00 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: This is not the matter that I am discussing. Without any objectiveness, they could ban people that totally do not deserve to be banned, whether by grudge or just incapacity to show sense of judgement. I believe thats where the fun is at. | ||
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brian
United States9616 Posts
On July 09 2008 13:04 UmmTheHobo wrote: I doubt if they were that drunk they would be like "HEY LETS GO ON TEAMLIQUID AND BAN PEOPLE MUAHHAHAHAH!" It would probably be more like, let's shoot fireworks into the neighbors house. you very obviously dont know haji's or rek's drunk habits. | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
I try to actually add to the site. Every month when the power rank comes out, I debate with people, I try not to flame, and I give out reasoned points that I've thought over for a while. I think I'm a pretty fair person to debate with and I do my best after all. Usually I try to help someone on Starcraft when he needs it [Ive analyzed a few replays or just answered a few basic questions], or just add to the discussion of past pro gamers, maps, the future of the tsl, etc. With that being said I'm not a particularly model member of teamliquid. I, like many others, am a little aggressive. I don't deny that. I have flamed people a few times [always in response, but that doesn't excuse it of course] or just been a little overly hostile. When I realize I'm at fault I try to fix the situation, but nonetheless. I've been warned for that once, and another time for spoiling a game. Spoiling the game was just a careless mistake on my part. So yeah. I try to add reasoned discussion to the site but at the same time I'm a bit of an asshole, and I have my faults. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 09 2008 13:05 Gene wrote: you very obviously dont know haji's or rek's drunk habits. No I don't. But I prefer prevention. If we can, by making one with common sense, avoid useless bans, we will do it. That is the least we can do for all those worthy members. | ||
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XCetron
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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XCetron
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
Voilà. | ||
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Pervect
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t_co
United States702 Posts
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spydernoob
Canada1066 Posts
edit: idk maybe a 6? i did add a few songs to the pro scene music thread, and the past few weeks have been posting real opinions. | ||
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
A confident forum will not need periodic witch hunts but a consistent daily reinforcement of the rules, much like how the world is run, police man enforcing the laws constantly and consistently. It is not some hit on the forehead hot headed whim "oh shit yeah let's ban a load of people!" but rather a long term commitment. The need of a purge shows that teamliquid is not confident enough in its management powers and resort to threats to keep orders in place. I would ask the mods to be more confident in their abilities to cope with the bad posters consistently throughout the years instead of having a huge ban spike and then withdrawn into a lull. | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
On July 09 2008 15:09 evanthebouncy! wrote: It's the same tactic used by good o' communists in the cultural revolution, by the end of every day, we gather around in a circle discussing our guity deeds of captialism(Mr. Zhang has bought an obsenely amount of potatoes, such action is despeakable) and to confess in order not to be prosecuted. Bey I hope you realize the nasty implications and connotations of this thread, it is a truly ugly paranoia ridden place. A confident forum will not need periodic witch hunts but a consistent daily reinforcement of the rules, much like how the world is run, police man enforcing the laws constantly and consistently. It is not some hit on the forehead hot headed whim "oh shit yeah let's ban a load of people!" but rather a long term commitment. The need of a purge shows that teamliquid is not confident enough in its management powers and resort to threats to keep orders in place. I would ask the mods to be more confident in their abilities to cope with the bad posters consistently throughout the years instead of having a huge ban spike and then withdrawn into a lull. A well thought out and sober post. A rebuttal I don't want a steady and sober managment style for this forum. I want spates of flames and bad posters, I want new vs old, I wantmods abusing their power. I want posters to fear for their lives, and I want rivers of blood to flow for no particular reason other than somebody felt like it. I want this purge to have teeth, I want some questionable bans, I want controversy damn it. The last thing I want from a TL purge is an orderly and sensible banning of the worst posters. Ban them all. Hand out temp bans like candy, permabans like slightly more expensive candy, and hit hard and hit often. Otherwise you're unworthy of the name purge, unworthy of the image of death carrying a sychthe, and I'll daresay unworthy of the hammer and sickle | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On July 09 2008 13:24 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Yes, it exists, but will we deliberately allow two persons to ban while being drunk? Will we give them the freedom to unleash such meaningful actions in order to after see other moderators come and say: "Yo, those dudes we allowed to ban while drunk should not have banned you. I'll unban you, yo". If we don't give them alcohol combined with the power to ban, there will be no such mess in the first place. Voilà. Lol there are only a few cases where this has ever been a real issue. | ||
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himurakenshin
Canada1845 Posts
On July 09 2008 15:09 evanthebouncy! wrote: It's the same tactic used by good o' communists in the cultural revolution, by the end of every day, we gather around in a circle discussing our guity deeds of captialism(Mr. Zhang has bought an obsenely amount of potatoes, such action is despeakable) and to confess in order not to be prosecuted. Bey I hope you realize the nasty implications and connotations of this thread, it is a truly ugly paranoia ridden place. A confident forum will not need periodic witch hunts but a consistent daily reinforcement of the rules, much like how the world is run, police man enforcing the laws constantly and consistently. It is not some hit on the forehead hot headed whim "oh shit yeah let's ban a load of people!" but rather a long term commitment. The need of a purge shows that teamliquid is not confident enough in its management powers and resort to threats to keep orders in place. I would ask the mods to be more confident in their abilities to cope with the bad posters consistently throughout the years instead of having a huge ban spike and then withdrawn into a lull. I agree with you 100% | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
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AdamBanks
Canada996 Posts
On July 09 2008 15:09 evanthebouncy! wrote: It's the same tactic used by good o' communists in the cultural revolution, by the end of every day, we gather around in a circle discussing our guity deeds of captialism(Mr. Zhang has bought an obsenely amount of potatoes, such action is despeakable) and to confess in order not to be prosecuted. Bey I hope you realize the nasty implications and connotations of this thread, it is a truly ugly paranoia ridden place. A confident forum will not need periodic witch hunts but a consistent daily reinforcement of the rules, much like how the world is run, police man enforcing the laws constantly and consistently. It is not some hit on the forehead hot headed whim "oh shit yeah let's ban a load of people!" but rather a long term commitment. The need of a purge shows that teamliquid is not confident enough in its management powers and resort to threats to keep orders in place. I would ask the mods to be more confident in their abilities to cope with the bad posters consistently throughout the years instead of having a huge ban spike and then withdrawn into a lull. Someone finally got this side of the agruement right. However, i do appriecate being made aware of the concerns before someone banned me for something i had not relized was an issue. As such i do see some value in the 'purge'. I think the word purge got many people's backs up, its more of a kick in the pants. | ||
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thunk
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On July 09 2008 15:09 evanthebouncy! wrote: It's the same tactic used by good o' communists in the cultural revolution, by the end of every day, we gather around in a circle discussing our guity deeds of captialism(Mr. Zhang has bought an obsenely amount of potatoes, such action is despeakable) and to confess in order not to be prosecuted. Bey I hope you realize the nasty implications and connotations of this thread, it is a truly ugly paranoia ridden place. A confident forum will not need periodic witch hunts but a consistent daily reinforcement of the rules, much like how the world is run, police man enforcing the laws constantly and consistently. It is not some hit on the forehead hot headed whim "oh shit yeah let's ban a load of people!" but rather a long term commitment. The need of a purge shows that teamliquid is not confident enough in its management powers and resort to threats to keep orders in place. I would ask the mods to be more confident in their abilities to cope with the bad posters consistently throughout the years instead of having a huge ban spike and then withdrawn into a lull. It's hard enforcing laws consistently and constantly though. Usually rules are enforced when laws are put into place, and then slow relaxed and exceptions are made. For instance, when speeding laws were put into place, I'm sure that people obeyed the speed limit until they realized that they could speed at almost no risk. In the same way, the Mods let one or two irreverent comments slide from senior forum members and it snowballed into the masses making irreverent comments. Especially after the spate of new members after TSL (I included, I suppose, but I beat TSL by 4 days or something) the Mods probably feel that the posting quality has degraded. A "consistent daily reinforcement of rules....[with] policemen enforcing laws constantly and consistently" while excellent in theory, is probably not practical for TL.net. Most of the Mods probably have jobs and lives outside of TL.net and don't have time to assess whether or not a poster has stepped over the line after every post. The purge happens now because they noticed a general downward trend in post quality and wish to remedy that with punitive action. Just my thoughts. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32048 Posts
On July 09 2008 13:07 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: No I don't. But I prefer prevention. If we can, by making one with common sense, avoid useless bans, we will do it. That is the least we can do for all those worthy members. I miss when I used to be in TL-west and Rek would come on drunk and ban the whole channel. And the purge is not because of a lack of confidence on the mods... lol. The influx of people who have no clue of the written and unwritten laws of this place from SC2, TSL, are why this is going on. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On July 10 2008 02:07 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: And I totally disagree. example of bad posting... If you are going to disagree with someone, make it more than one line and explain yourself clearly why! Don't just say "I disagree" and just start either an argument or a trolling war | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 09 2008 13:24 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Yes, it exists, but will we deliberately allow two persons to ban while being drunk? Will we give them the freedom to unleash such meaningful actions in order to after see other moderators come and say: "Yo, those dudes we allowed to ban while drunk should not have banned you. I'll unban you, yo". If we don't give them alcohol combined with the power to ban, there will be no such mess in the first place. Voilà. wassup chill--- high five! /* | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
And Infested: He did not explain, why should that be more of a brillant post? He just said: I agree. That is not better. Yet, you did not point it out. Strange, isn't it? Why do I disagree? Because I totally do not think it has anything to do with confidence. It's not a way for mods to hide behind a large-scale purge because they do not have the balls to do it otherwise. Not at all. I rather believe that this is a moment to say: Listen, that's enough, all bad posters will be wiped and we will be good to go until another crisis points out, if a crisis there is. It is an opportunity to channel all necessary bans within one great purge. It is a symbol. And God knows how symbols are powerful. It will go down in TL's history, already very rich in drama moments. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On July 10 2008 03:01 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Haji: Pardon? And Infested: He did not explain, why should that be more of a brillant post? He just said: I agree. That is not better. Yet, you did not point it out. Strange, isn't it? Why do I disagree? Because I totally do not think it has anything to do with confidence. It's not a way for mods to hide behind a large-scale purge because they do not have the balls to do it otherwise. Not at all. I rather believe that this is a moment to say: Listen, that's enough, all bad posters will be wiped and we will be good to go until another crisis points out, if a crisis there is. It is an opportunity to channel all necessary bans within one great purge. It is a symbol. And God knows how symbols are powerful. It will go down in TL's history, already very rich in drama moments. It's kind of like, uhmm... When you are taking a test in school, a lot of times it will say something like this: "Next 10 Statements are true or false*, if answered false please give correct definition" People tend to question No's instead of Yes' It's kind of like quoting other people, you quote them because you think the same way and no need to write anything else in case you want to add something to it, but then again... quoting too much is bad imo p.s. Was holylight banned? and that was jensofsweeden? | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
Quoting and saying: "I agree" is as much of a bad post as only saying: "I disagree". Nevertheless, did I bring enough justifications to my opinion, oh noble sir? | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
"I agree" lends creedence to an established argument. A poster may not have anything substantive to contribute to the argument, but nonetheless is establishing his support for a proposal / idea / argument. It lets other forum goers see who supports which side (though who supports an argument shouldn't be as important as an arguments content, it often is). Where as "I disagree" thrown nakedly establishes your opposition, but doesn't give others a reason to support your disagreement. If somebody were to post first against the idea, with backing, you could agree with that person without being a bad poster. But when you're the first wqith a disagreement, you should feel obliged to illustrate why precisely that is. | ||
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
On July 10 2008 03:30 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Quoting and saying: "I agree" is as much of a bad post as only saying: "I disagree". I agree. | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
I love you Funchucks. This is the best two word post I've ever seen. | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
On July 10 2008 03:52 GeneralStan wrote: I love you Funchucks. This is the best two word post I've ever seen. I disagree. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On July 10 2008 03:40 GeneralStan wrote: I disagree. "I agree" lends creedence to an established argument. A poster may not have anything substantive to contribute to the argument, but nonetheless is establishing his support for a proposal / idea / argument. It lets other forum goers see who supports which side (though who supports an argument shouldn't be as important as an arguments content, it often is). Where as "I disagree" thrown nakedly establishes your opposition, but doesn't give others a reason to support your disagreement. If somebody were to post first against the idea, with backing, you could agree with that person without being a bad poster. But when you're the first wqith a disagreement, you should feel obliged to illustrate why precisely that is. I agree! =) + Show Spoiler + I am not trying to joke about the whole "I agree" "I don't agree" thing but I do agree ^^ GeneralStan covered pretty much what I was trying to say in better words ^_^ | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
I a-tree. ![[image loading]](http://www.freefoto.com/images/15/19/15_19_1---Tree--Sunrise--Northumberland_web.jpg) | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
OMG this made me laugh so hard, everyone was lookin at me at work like wtzor o_O | ||
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United States21 Posts
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iceburn
United States303 Posts
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Amber[LighT]
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HamerD
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XuoriG
Canada165 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Not all my posts are very long, but I try to give them some meaning. It doesn't take an essay to say what I want to say often times. | ||
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Folca
2235 Posts
I have a lot of 1 liners though, gotta improve that | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
Worst post ever | ||
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kpcrew
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
try to post better in a week okay | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
On July 07 2008 01:17 Pads wrote: I give my self like, 5 because all i do is post one liners with usless content. edit: actually it's not you're right, that's all you do and it isn't enough to merit a 5, especially considering the fact you've had warnings and temp bans so here's another one On July 10 2008 08:54 HamerD wrote: 2-3, occasional useful post, 90% argumentative pointless tosh, 90% one liner support for topics that i like. I'd ban me. yep one more disaster piece like that ron paul blog and you're out of here, permanently On July 07 2008 02:08 Raithed wrote: going to be honest here, i see myself going for a 2day temp ban or something just because i, most of the time, post in hype threads / blogs that make utter NONSENSE and/or make retarded blogs myself. during the past few months ive been making one liners; worse: one word one liners. from blogs: from threads: from the YT getting owned thread. so i would really think im one of those posters that lurk and when one is excited, they would caps lock engaged and type multitude of one-liners. im willing to change! ps; idk how to rate myself, probably a 1. correct, all i ever see you do is post trash in the blog section either start saying meaningful shit or don't say anything at all because the next ban is gonna be a shovel to the head | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
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KwarK
United States42516 Posts
On July 10 2008 22:18 vGl-CoW wrote: you're right, that's all you do and it isn't enough to merit a 5, especially considering the fact you've had warnings and temp bans so here's another one I've known Pads for a few years now and I feel I ought to speak in his defence. He's just an average Starcraft fan. He's always mannered and uses this site actively for information about the proscene, foreigner events and tournaments and strategy help. Although he doesn't contribute much he's largely a lurker and I feel you do an injustice to him to single him out. He doesn't one liner every topic and his post count reflects how little he spams. It's actually relatively hard to make big posts if you don't pick fights in the general forum. | ||
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iNcontroL
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On July 07 2008 05:05 UmmTheHobo wrote: I rate myself a 3. I do too many unfunny one liners/sarcasms. Maybe instead of trying to be funny, which I fail at over the internet ( I am a pretty funny person IRL) I should contribute to the conversation, and add little funnies in the middle. EDIT: I also took a jab at FrozenAbiter, Which most likely was a retarded idea. I did say I was sorry though :3 Taking jabs at me is about as dangerous as taking jabs at a nun ;p I've banned like 5 people total, and I think 2 of them where spammers and one of them was a chinese spambot. | ||
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
On July 10 2008 23:14 Kwark wrote: I've known Pads for a few years now and I feel I ought to speak in his defence. He's just an average Starcraft fan. He's always mannered and uses this site actively for information about the proscene, foreigner events and tournaments and strategy help. Although he doesn't contribute much he's largely a lurker and I feel you do an injustice to him to single him out. He doesn't one liner every topic and his post count reflects how little he spams. It's actually relatively hard to make big posts if you don't pick fights in the general forum. he's by no means terrible but he definitely is subpar and has already received two tempbans for posting nothing but one liners since he posted here i decided to be pretty lenient, especially considering ~THE PURGE~ and all | ||
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KwarK
United States42516 Posts
On July 10 2008 23:31 {88}iNcontroL wrote: and in kwark's defense he is a red coat with an amazingly thick accent (has jamie pwned) and is adorable in every sense. Don't shovel his head. Just tickle his belly until his already red cheeks turn more red please. <3 Jamie is a northerner. I'm a southerner. The accents are rather distinct. Fortunately none of you guys have any accent at all..... My wcg opponent tonight is a random player but I hear his zerg is his best. Up for warming me up on peaks? The game is 22CET. As for Pads, he's been at tl as long as I have (I started bw about 2 weeks after he did and we both joined the same clan) and posted far less. Even if it is mostly one liners he hardly spams them and when you're only really looking at tournaments and tl events one liners are generally appropriate. It's when you start arguing with inc over whether German is a nationality, an ethnicity or both (and where Tuetonic comes into it) that posts start lengthening. | ||
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On July 10 2008 23:45 Kwark wrote: <3 Jamie is a northerner. I'm a southerner. The accents are rather distinct. Fortunately none of you guys have any accent at all..... My wcg opponent tonight is a random player but I hear his zerg is his best. Up for warming me up on peaks? The game is 22CET. As for Pads, he's been at tl as long as I have (I started bw about 2 weeks after he did and we both joined the same clan) and posted far less. Even if it is mostly one liners he hardly spams them and when you're only really looking at tournaments and tl events one liners are generally appropriate. It's when you start arguing with inc over whether German is a nationality, an ethnicity or both (and where Tuetonic comes into it) that posts start lengthening. I do have a talent for drawing people out and them getting banned.. but the "I have a talent" part is misleading. It's more like I have a tendency.. dunno. Anyways a good red flag is when someone starts to debate with me too much. Yeah we can play, I get back from the gym around 20 CET ish.. be on vent around then. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
im a 10/10 poster. lol btw i got laid 3 times in the past 3 weeks. go mora. | ||
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thedeadhaji
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ahrara_
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ahrara_
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Dknight
United States5223 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On July 11 2008 01:48 Mora wrote: i dont get the point of this thread. im a 10/10 poster. lol btw i got laid 3 times in the past 3 weeks. go mora. are you a top | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 11 2008 01:59 ahrara_ wrote: he's only done it twice in his past 40 posts, and had only posted once this weekI dont know if this has been brought up, but I'd like to bring everyone's attention to this mada_jiang character. pretty much all he/she/it ever posts is something along the lines of "jesus will save you," which is all fine and good intentioned and I don't have a problem with religion at all, but it is all the dude ever posts. I mean like it's the ONLY thing, and it happens in every bloody advice thread. he's not that bad | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32048 Posts
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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Folca
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On July 11 2008 02:12 zulu_nation8 wrote: are you a top i used to be an exclusive top. then i used to be an exclusive top except when i was drunk. and now on this most recent occaison i tried bottoming and it hurt like a bitch and im not so sure i want to do it again. maybe if the guy wasn't so fucking huge it would have been fine... and then he and his boyfriend (it was a 3some) had the gaul to ask if i would try taking them both at once. haha yeah. no chance. it was good though. living room, to bedroom, to swimming pool, to bedroom, brief sleep, again in the morning. and the next day i got a free Subway sandwich for breakfast because the [subway's] cash machine died. GOOD TIMES. I LOVE SUBWAY. | ||
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iNcontroL
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 11 2008 00:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I do have a talent for drawing people out and them getting banned.. but the "I have a talent" part is misleading. It's more like I have a tendency.. dunno. Anyways a good red flag is when someone starts to debate with me too much. I didn't like that stance at all. I truly hope I misunderstood, but it sounded like: " You guys don't even have to right to argue too much with me. Either way, I will ask my gosu connections to ban you. " I mean, there is an important and fundamental difference between debating politely (like I believe I am doing) and debating without any manners or by insulting everyone (as Baal tends to do). Why should people be banned by debating with you? This seems like a threat to freedom of speech. If you meant that people going BM with you tend to be banned, I'm ok with that. But a tendency to have people banned when they disagree with you and debate? This seems all wrong. -ThE_AdvoCaTe | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
BUt I couldn't help but notice you said "a threat to freedom of speech." You think US laws are universal? You think this website is American? You think ANY fucking policy where they ban people for what they say is a fucking threat to FREEDOM OF SPEECH? Are you kidding me? | ||
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DamageControL
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 11 2008 05:54 {88}iNcontroL wrote: yeah you misunderstood completely. Glad to hear that. On July 11 2008 05:54 {88}iNcontroL wrote: You think ANY fucking policy where they ban people for what they say is a fucking threat to FREEDOM OF SPEECH? If one's opinion is said politely, yes I do. No I am not kidding you. And don't refer to US laws, I don't know them. I am canadian. Although these laws might be alike. On July 11 2008 05:55 SnowFantasy wrote: Extremely off topic I know but why is your username SpaCe)Ment-rA and at the end you wrote "-ThE_AdvoCaTe"? Because SpaCe)Ment-rA is like this ID I got here since 2005. And my IRC ID (I have been active on TL's IRC channel the past few days) is ThE_AdvoCaTe. So, from time to time, I sign my posts with that nickname so that the people I talked to on IRC can know I am that AdvoCaTe is that Ment-rA guy. Voilà! | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Freedom of speech is not a law that transcends the internet. Saying it is being threatened is an arbitrary statement. That is similar to me being frantic that my right to bare arms is being attacked when I get my arms cut off in Ninja Gaiden II. It wouldn't hold in court. I'd get laughed at on the internet and I'd be a moron to think otherwise. Hence my surprise when you asserted that banning someone for what they say on a forum is some kind of attack on freedom of speech. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 11 2008 09:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Ok lemme speak to you as a Canadian: Freedom of speech is not a law that transcends the internet. You're right. It's a principle, an ideal. There is no necessity for it to be a law over the internet for anyone to defend it. | ||
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blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
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brian
United States9616 Posts
they let you say a lot, but if you get out of line they will put an end to you. this is their house. sorry Adv. | ||
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brian
United States9616 Posts
not in the old mans fucking house. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 11 2008 09:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote: That is similar to me being frantic that my right to bare arms is being attacked when I get my arms cut off in Ninja Gaiden II. It wouldn't hold in court. On July 11 2008 09:31 perisie xx wrote: she'd be like trying to let go of your hand but every time you'd just spin her fingers in an elaborate pattern and end up holding her close after every cycle. it'd be like a very subtle form of rape. she wouldn't be able to complain either, she'd be like "omg i'm being raped" and everyone else would be like "oh he's manipulating your fingers" and she'd be like screaming in agony whilst you're just performing common finger tricks and probably getting a decent salary for doing kids shows on the side Two posts that made me laugh. Well played sirs~ | ||
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hideo
Canada1641 Posts
I've only ever posted when I really felt like typing something out. 7/10? | ||
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
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shavingcream66
United States1219 Posts
I don't think I ever insulted anyone. I enjoy TL and mostly come here for SC strats, discussion of games, and those random, enjoyable general posts. I've helped some people on strats and I have helped add to several discussions. Furthermore, a lot of my posts are in Liquidbet. | ||
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WorldCommunist8
United States226 Posts
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Aurious
Canada1772 Posts
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Skye_MyO
Singapore107 Posts
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On July 13 2008 03:43 MyLostTemple wrote: i'm not the best! maybe 8 out of 10 possibly even a 7! sorry guys x.x someone ban this noob! | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 03:01 Skye_MyO wrote: I think its ridiculous for anyone to assert that their rights to free speech are being infringed upon. Considering the concept of private property, if you go to somebody's house and behave in a way that is not according to their requirements, they have every right to boot you off their property. Yes, they have the right. That's not the point. If they righteously kick you out due to what you say, that remains an action against your freedom of speech. If they have the right to do that or not doesn't matter a second. You might be given the right to kill me, that remains a threat to my right to live. Ridiculous? I don't think so. Neither do I think using such words will make you look intelligent. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
On July 13 2008 06:24 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Yes, they have the right. That's not the point. If they righteously kick you out due to what you say, that remains an action against your freedom of speech. If they have the right to do that or not doesn't matter a second. You might be given the right to kill me, that remains a threat to my right to live. Ridiculous? I don't think so. Neither do I think using such words will make you look intelligent. do you even know what your arguing about? | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
" Freedom of speech is being able to speak freely without censorship " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech Yes I do. Now if you have anything intelligent and useful to contribute the discussion with, I'd be glad to hear it. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
On July 13 2008 06:32 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: " Freedom of speech is being able to speak freely without censorship " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech Yes I do. Now if you have anything intelligent and useful to contribute the discussion with, I'd be glad to hear it. I asked the question because your running around in circles [and as far as I see there is no intelligent discussion here], not contributing anything but preaching your freedom of speech mantra. There never was and never will be freedom of speech on TL. People have brought up the topic countless times, argued it to no end, and failed. Live with it. | ||
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United States236 Posts
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 06:41 Wizard wrote: Another point is...the "censorship" on tl is in the form of closing threads or mods editing out posts that they deem as trash, as well as other things, but those are probably the most important. How does this differ in real life? If you write in a newspaper and write trash/something that isn't acceptable, they will edit it out. Freedom of speech is a right, but with that right comes responsibility. Absolutely, but you don't seem to have read the initial debate. It was about banning people for what they say. Not how they say it, rather what, the content. I know there are special cases, but people getting banned for questionning the mods' decisions is an abuse of that right to ban, in my opinion. I can't remember that guy's aka, but there was one who got banned for questionning bans. That is going too far. | ||
Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
EDIT: We're not stopping you from spewing your bullshit elsewhere, just not here. It's just like you can't just walk into the Senate and start shouting your worthless opinion in the middle of a meeting. They can make you shut up there without infringing on your freedom of speech, because frankly, you can go outside and bitch all you want, just not there. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
Now did you just call my opinions "bullshit" and "worthless opinions"? | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
On July 13 2008 06:56 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Absolutely, but you don't seem to have read the initial debate. It was about banning people for what they say. Not how they say it, rather what, the content. I know there are special cases, but people getting banned for questionning the mods' decisions is an abuse of that right to ban, in my opinion. I can't remember that guy's aka, but there was one who got banned for questionning bans. That is going too far. I have seen numerous debates between mods and members in which the members questioned a ban, banning policy, or other things and I have never seen someone banned for simply questioning as long as WHAT they said was reasonable, not derogatory or insulting. I really think you should find who this guy is because I think your exaggerating the facts. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
On July 13 2008 07:04 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: And yet there are cases were mods abuse that right. Now did you just call my opinions "bullshit" and "worthless opinions"? Just stop. Please. | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On July 13 2008 07:04 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: And yet there are cases were mods abuse that right. Now did you just call my opinions "bullshit" and "worthless opinions"? The "you" in my statements was to address all readers of my post, not directly you. But because it is addressing everyone, yes, yes it was talking to you. But not just you. Don't feel too special. You can still print my words out and frame it and tell your grandkids I referenced you though. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
Oh that is not much of an honor, really. I'll have better things to show my grandkids. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
On July 13 2008 07:16 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: So everyone's opinions are bullshit and worthless? How kind of you. Oh that is not much of an honor, really. I'll have better things to show my grandkids. opinions are generally worthless | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
But don't be a little kid about it. "Oh but you said this!" Well don't take things out of context and don't pretend to be overly offended by it. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 07:22 Klogon wrote: If you knew anything about the English language and how it is used to communicate ideas, you wouldn't be nit-picking my words like that and isolating it. Oh, I know that langage pretty well and I do know how ideas are communicated. I know french (which is my main langage) damn well and that doesn't keep me from "nit-picking", when arguing in french, about words that don't belong in a polite debate. Be mannered and I will be glad to hear your ideas, whether I agree with them or not " I may disaprove of what you say but I will always defend your right to say it " (personal note: If they aren't insults.) - Voltaire Well don't take things out of context and don't pretend to be overly offended by it. I am offended by unnecessary flaming. I am offended by people who prefer insults above all, especially above mannered arguments (see first quote from your post). I'm sorry but I don't share that opinion. I rather believe they always are useful. One only has to listen. " Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, but courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Winston Churchill The key is to listen... and put that godamn pride away. | ||
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Daveed
United States236 Posts
Anyway, this discussion of yours has strayed quite far from where it had set out, and is heading towards a few flames. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 07:42 Daveed wrote: That's funny, because I feel that there's a lot more "goddamn pride" coming from your corner. Anyway, this discussion of yours has strayed quite far from where it had set out, and is heading towards a few flames. Oh Klogon has already begun flaming. And my pride kicks in when I'm being insulted. I have no problem agreeing with a divergent opinion when it is said politely. See? You didn't flame me and I'm not being an ass to you. As simple as that. It's called respect. | ||
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KwarK
United States42516 Posts
These are the rules of tl, deal with it. Fortunately the moderators are extremely competent people and therefore you can rely on them to act maturely, even if users are twisting what they say completely out of context, getting their panties in a twist over nothing and unequivocably wrong over the point they are arguing. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 08:32 Kwark wrote: The only right on teamliquid is the right to act as they see fit given to the moderators. I've already agreed with that, see earlier posts. So yes, your ability to speak freely is being infringed upon. That's all I was saying. I wasn't saying no one should ever be censored, neither no one ever be banned. This has gotten out of the original context and that's pretty nasty. [...] even if users are twisting what they say completely out of context, getting their panties in a twist over nothing and unequivocably wrong over the point they are arguing. That wasn't much out of context. When someone says: "your opinion is bullshit and worthless" and then says "that 'you' was addressing everyone", that's quite clear. That repeated argument has no value. Over nothing? Oh I don't think so. Unequivocably wrong? So who are you to decide what's right and what's wrong? Fortunately the moderators are extremely competent people and therefore you can rely on them to act maturely We'll see that. | ||
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KwarK
United States42516 Posts
On September 13 2004 22:42 mensrea wrote: This also means you should think twice before calling that guy with 5000+ posts a jackass. If the guy's been with us that long, chances are YOU'RE the one being an idiot. Some battles are just not worth fighting - just move on. I don't know why I'm bothering tbh because you're clearly a retard and will keep arguing for absolutely no reason and then get banned and then go "zomg tl so imba, banned me for arguing with a mod when i was liek totally liek in the liek right ya know?". I've seen it before. But I guess I'm in a generous mood so I'll try again. Just drop it. Walk away. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
On July 13 2008 08:59 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: I've already agreed with that, see earliest posts. That's all I was saying. I wasn't saying no one should ever be censored, neither no one ever be banned. This has gotten out of the original context and that's pretty nasty. That wasn't much out of context. When someone says: "your opinion is bullshit and worthless" and then says "that 'you' was addressing everyone", that's quite clear. That repeated argument has no value. Over nothing? Oh I don't think so. Unequivocably wrong? So who are you to decide what's right and what's wrong? We'll see that. Like I said before, you don't even know what your arguing about. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 09:10 Wizard wrote: Like I said before, you don't even know what your arguing about. How totally irrevelant when without a single word of explaination. Very useful to the debate, thank you very much for your detailed post. On July 13 2008 09:06 Kwark wrote: I don't know why I'm bothering tbh because you're clearly a retard Thank you. I'm flattered. | ||
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Chuiu
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Nyovne
Netherlands19133 Posts
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 09:27 Chuiu wrote: Space, I think you should be thankful you haven't been banned yet. I'm actually wondering why. Maybe mods are like all sleeping or gaming. But I honestly don't think I deserve a ban. | ||
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dronebabo
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 13 2008 09:29 Nyovne wrote: This guy is posting more quotes then even Ragnar Birko can pull out of his ass. That is a lot of quotes. | ||
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Nyovne
Netherlands19133 Posts
You should see him on IRC. And now: [02:49] <ThE_AdvoCaTe> listen nyonve [02:49] <ThE_AdvoCaTe> I'll say it one more time [02:49] <ThE_AdvoCaTe> listen carefully *drumroll* | ||
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Nyovne
Netherlands19133 Posts
[02:52] * dronebabo sets mode: +b *!*@ip097.254-51-69.sogetel.net [02:52] * ThE_AdvoCaTe was kicked by dronebabo (Boo-hoo) [02:52] <@dronebabo> man [02:52] <@dronebabo> i always gotta do the dirty work BBBAAABBOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Nyovne
Netherlands19133 Posts
Let alone the fact that Freedom of Speech is a personal right and under no circumstance constitutes an obligation for someone else. Hence kicking someone out of your house of banning someone for saying something can in no way be conceived as an infringement upon said right. It's merely exercising the right not to have to listen to other peoples crap. Oh wait, according to his freedom of speech there are no limits and as such it also imposes an obligation upon others to behave conform the speakers intention to actively hearken to it because without it he supposedly cannot in full effectiveness exercise his right to freedom of speech. Do you even know how rediculous that sounds lol. Get a proper grasp of things, let alone "general principles" before you start firing them at everyone. Any and all rights are inherently limited, there arguably is only one totalitarian right which would be the right to life. Which I don't even support myself as it in no way can be possibly and fully backed up by argument and would entail certain... assumptions. | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On July 13 2008 07:39 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: I am offended by unnecessary flaming. I am offended by people who prefer insults above all, especially above mannered arguments (see first quote from your post). Lol I don't feel like banning you 'cause you seem like a good guy. But let's read my first post again, shall we? On July 13 2008 06:59 Klogon wrote: Actually I can do whatever I want. That's my right. That's my "freedom of banning" that I get directly from the supreme government of TeamLiquid.net. As far as I'm concerned, my rights > your rights here EDIT: We're not stopping you from spewing your bullshit elsewhere, just not here. It's just like you can't just walk into the Senate and start shouting your worthless opinion in the middle of a meeting. They can make you shut up there without infringing on your freedom of speech, because frankly, you can go outside and bitch all you want, just not there. So first of all, keep in mind that none of this is directed straight at you. The "you" I'm using is for all general readers. So knowing that: The "bullshit" that you quoted to try to take offense to has no reference WHATSOEVER to what YOU, spaCe)Ment-rA, have said or will say. It's just saying saying that TEAMLIQUID.NET DOESN'T CARE WHAT BULLSHIT HAPPENS ANYWHERE ELSE. Comprende? And the "worthless opinion" part when in regards to some random dude walking into the Senate... yeah, if you did that your opinion would be regarded as absolutely worthless. But the diction I used to get that point across may sound harsh, but its justifiably condescending if you feel its appropriate to walk into the Senate floor to give your opinion (because "I have freedom of speech!"). As far as me appearing to be an arrogant, egotistical mod who thinks he rules the world because he can ban people on an internet forum? Well, I was obviously joking when I talked about the "framing my post" and other non-sense because I'm playfully reaffirming the TL.net policy #1 that THIS IS OUR HOUSE, so I thought it appropriate and fun to exude such pompous attitude when addressing dissent. Basically, chill dude and remember that THIS IS MY HOUSE =D EDIT: It shows maturity to say "I'm wrong" and back down. Most people here can't do it. Doing that will not make me look down on you at all, but quite the contrary. So you don't need to keep fighting for fighting's sake. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
Edit: But I'm not kidding. Damn was it liberating. | ||
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suxN
Finland1167 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
You're welcome. | ||
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Wizard
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
Edit: Needless to mention I disagree with the "rooting out" term. | ||
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iNcontroL
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
I propose we ban any and everybody who says there is freedom of speech here, or even people who talk about freedom of speech in regards to teamliquid. People would stop talking about it then | ||
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iNcontroL
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
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InfeSteD
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KwarK
United States42516 Posts
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ahrara_
Afghanistan1715 Posts
man i wanted to jump into this earlier. i missed my window ;( | ||
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
the famous [yet anonymous] celebrity with powerful friends around the world, who could destroy TL with a single phone call? that fearsome scourge, the harbinger of this humble website's destruction? Damn that man was epic. | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
On topic: 6.5- mostly keep my posting to the fighting game vids thread since that's more my area of expertise (incidentally where I had my first and biggest posts); I can get a bit carried away cheering for players/teams that I like in hype threads and tourney threads, though... I don't think I've ever insulted anybody on TL, though. Just lots of short posts sometimes, mostly while watching matches live. I do try to edit my posts rather than make new ones for the most part, though. | ||
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Piste
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most of my posts are on tournament threads. I enjoy live events. Post's at there is quit senseless but my posts at other parts of forum are quite harmless. | ||
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
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StarN
United States2587 Posts
Klogon is the most gm mod EVER! He should be Klogon[gm] If I were him I would've banned Ment-rA 10 posts ago | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On July 13 2008 16:04 Last Romantic wrote: iNcontroL you're talking about the man who was set to sic the BEAR himself on us? the famous [yet anonymous] celebrity with powerful friends around the world, who could destroy TL with a single phone call? that fearsome scourge, the harbinger of this humble website's destruction? Damn that man was epic. He was also friends with like, Dane Cook or something? Or some musician I cannot remember.. anyways he claimed his "friend" visited here but would stop because people were quoting Sun and changing his words which, was an agregious attack on his character since he was a big celebrity. That guy.. best fucking character on TL.net EVER imo. | ||
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brian
United States9616 Posts
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illFiRe
Canada4 Posts
On July 13 2008 09:52 Nyovne wrote: [02:52] <ThE_AdvoCaTe> I understand mods can do w/e they want with their forums. However, I personaly believe they shouldnt ban for what ppl saying, except when its like flaming and very inappropriate things. I believe freedom of speech suffers no borders, neither laws. I believe it as a universal principle and I would hope that people would just have that same principle, even if they can righteously ban if they wish. But I obviously see its not the case [02:52] * dronebabo sets mode: +b *!*@ip097.254-51-69.sogetel.net [02:52] * ThE_AdvoCaTe was kicked by dronebabo (Boo-hoo) Ridiculous. Absolutly nonsense. Stfu noob. You probably also have "OMG LETS MAKE PEACE IN THE WORLD" as a shitty principle. Fag. Why bother with principle when we can crush them and do whatever we want? Morals? Fuck that. They do w/e they want with their forums, now read the forums' 10 commandments again, asshole.Your habit to argue pointlessly like a dick probably comes from the fact that you were ignored all your life and never had any friends.Why bother with freedom of speech? I mean, it's WAYYY funnier to see dorks like you banned for saying shitty things. Hahaha that is a nice drama for nothing, motherfucker. You don't like flaming, you said in previous posts? Well eat that, son of a bitch. Good job Kwark, Wizard, Incontrol, Noyvne and Carnac. Good job guys. TL.net is rid of one more idiot. That single ban alone made that purge fucking useful. He threw himself right on the cross, as Incontrol said. I'd add that he did so like an idiot. Klogon is wrong. He doesn't seem like a good guy at all. Probably a nerd with no social life. Ever got drunk, bitch? You should try that! That'd probably make you realize your shitty principles aren't all that exists and that we don't have to endure you. Freedom of speech is shit. Shit, I said. This is the internet man. Why let people say what they want? That's boring. Bans are cool. I love bans. I hate freedom of speech and principles. FUCK YOU. Now my greatest sadness is that I joined too late. You probably won't read that, since you're banned. But everyone else will and agree with me ----- > We all hope you die in a fire, worthless piece of shit. Thank you, that was my first post here and I hope it was entertaining. That inspired me so much that I'll be preparing a thread bout fucking useless dramas and bitches that make it. Don't steal my idea, just wait to see! Until then, I will be mass-using the search function to find such threads. Choke, Ment-ra! | ||
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WorldCommunist8
United States226 Posts
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Quesadilla
United States1814 Posts
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