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DeMoNiC
Profile Joined May 2003
United States294 Posts
September 01 2003 01:22 GMT
#61
hey guys... if you got 25 bux and u want to hear some absoluetly incredible facts on 9/11 check this site out http://www.infowars.com

go to the shopping page and buy, 9/11 the Road to Tyranny by alex jones. Best fucKing DVD i've ever seen. And for the Non believers like BlackJack, also check this site out.. it may make u change your mind on things Happy Reading everyone!
How many Dragonball Z Characters does it take to screw a light bulb? one, but it takes 5 episodes.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
September 01 2003 01:34 GMT
#62
Psylo, instead of posting BLIND, leftist circumstances. Try proving, that the government gains more from this than they already lost, and I mean really think just sit for an hour and try to get your brain to comprehend that OUR government was far better off without a 9-11 than it was with one.

Its like TvP, Id rather settle for a boring game victory by being a drop happy cliff terran, than being a moron and sacrificing 24 tanks to take out a toss expo when they have 5 up and running.

Yes psylo think about it, I mean think just think. Actually start off by realizing that you could be wrong, you could be a drone falling into bullshit of some conspiracy theorist. Now I'm serious, really believe that shit don't just say it and go "there I just took on the opposing view, now back onto the bush hating band wagon of people with superiority complexes." Ok has it sunk in yet? probably not, welp psylo, I am sorry but I believe you are a lost soul, whether your right or wrong on this I already gained enough insight on your persona through your persistence to support one view that you will forever remain with your one view.
DeMoNiC
Profile Joined May 2003
United States294 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-01 01:46:46
September 01 2003 01:43 GMT
#63
DV8 u are by far the stupidest person who has yet posted on this post..period, u tell psylo to think hard and put himself in an opposing viewers shoes... and yet it seems u cant follow ur own advice and really drop ur loyal to america BS act -_-, the way u responding to psylo im guessing ur either 13 or a REALLY immature 16 yr old but enough of that.. Psylo's point is that Bush's administration, aswell as Bin Ladens family both gained ALOT through 9/11 and without it, bush wouldnt have had the excuse he needed to go through with many things for even further proof, when bush was giving speeches on why we should invade Iraq he yet AGAIN used 9/11 as an excuse.. clearyly Saddam didnt pull 9/11 yet every flipping sentence bush mentioned on america entering a war with iraq was Terrorist this and 911 that.. its a Documented TACTIC (forgot name) used to have people throw their hate on one subject onto another by drilling the bad memory into their heads while speaking of another thing entirely... can u not tell me such a tactic isnt corrupt?? i mean.. if not even your own president trying to manipulate u phases ur ignorant opinion.. then god knows what will....
How many Dragonball Z Characters does it take to screw a light bulb? one, but it takes 5 episodes.
SoLsiTO
Profile Joined April 2003
United States573 Posts
September 01 2003 02:09 GMT
#64
I mentioned this in a previous post but another very credible source backing up a lot of what psylo says: Noam Chomsky's 9-11, it is a short read around 120 pages and well worth it. And before you dismiss it as "leftist propaganda" understand that there is no objective news source, the NY Times or CNN for example are in no way objective and could just as easily be dismissed by psylo as being "rightist propaganda."
They fill the children full of hate to fight an old man's war and die upon the road to peace
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
September 01 2003 03:35 GMT
#65
On September 01 2003 10:43 DeMoNiC wrote:
DV8 u are by far the stupidest person who has yet posted on this post..period, u tell psylo to think hard and put himself in an opposing viewers shoes... and yet it seems u cant follow ur own advice and really drop ur loyal to america BS act -_-, the way u responding to psylo im guessing ur either 13 or a REALLY immature 16 yr old but enough of that.. Psylo's point is that Bush's administration, aswell as Bin Ladens family both gained ALOT through 9/11 and without it, bush wouldnt have had the excuse he needed to go through with many things for even further proof, when bush was giving speeches on why we should invade Iraq he yet AGAIN used 9/11 as an excuse.. clearyly Saddam didnt pull 9/11 yet every flipping sentence bush mentioned on america entering a war with iraq was Terrorist this and 911 that.. its a Documented TACTIC (forgot name) used to have people throw their hate on one subject onto another by drilling the bad memory into their heads while speaking of another thing entirely... can u not tell me such a tactic isnt corrupt?? i mean.. if not even your own president trying to manipulate u phases ur ignorant opinion.. then god knows what will....



HAHA dumb shit, I don't hold the opposing view you moron, its called playing devil's advocate. Now you my friend, wake the fuck up, get off your little I am a rebel band wagon and view it from bothsides instead of eating up anything you fucking hear and read, See I hate self-righteous elite shitheads, and most of these people tend to fall into the bashing the government trend, (yes I do hate people who won't think for themselves). Yes, you can find them at your local starbucks spouting out the answer to all the world's problems with their vast insight on our world. Ok Enough digression, I understand psylo's positioning, but to me its still CIRCUMSTANTIAL, this does NOT mean that its wrong, it ... wait too complex for j00, here goes again, O. k his thing he just wrote about, could be wrong Yo, so you know I was just thinking about like you know stuff that would make it you know like true and stuff like what are the you know like stuff the government gains from you know like 9-11 HUH HUH, Nice and dumbed down for your prepubscent ass?
Oh yeah and one more thing, before you make an ass out of yourself again by trying to enlightened someone on a subject they heard one too many times, think about your understanding of the matter than assume this person's understanding is that multiplied by a googolplex.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
September 01 2003 03:38 GMT
#66
On September 01 2003 11:09 SoLsiTO wrote:
I mentioned this in a previous post but another very credible source backing up a lot of what psylo says: Noam Chomsky's 9-11, it is a short read around 120 pages and well worth it. And before you dismiss it as "leftist propaganda" understand that there is no objective news source, the NY Times or CNN for example are in no way objective and could just as easily be dismissed by psylo as being "rightist propaganda."


CNN maybe, NY times, no way man, they are like the fox news of the left, but on paper
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
September 01 2003 06:04 GMT
#67
Psylo, why don't you stop reading all these articles on sites which are not credible sources, take a deep breath, and look at what you are trying to say?

That the Administration of the President of the United States of America deliberately executed the "terrorist act" which murdered some 3,000 people, so that they could go to war with... who? Iraq? Lets take a look at this logically. If our intent was war with Iraq, why did we not blame it on Iraq to begin with? Wouldn't it have been easier justified at a time when the U.N. would be more sympathetic to our country in light of our recent loss? What was to be gained in Afghanistan? Hmm? I see a logical leap in your little conspiracy theory. As for your sources, a ton of that is conincidental. A picture of a target on the WTC on the front of a manual, 3 years ago - need I remind you that the WTC had been the target of a previous terrorist attack? You have Rense.com as a source. How is that credible?

Get serious, man. People like you are the "Grima Wormtongue"s (LotR) of our society.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
September 01 2003 08:51 GMT
#68
i understand the critisism, but u guys underestimate my position on the matter. im am trying to explain this one thing at a time, therefor wil not respond to everyone thing at once. i will attempt to explain how 9-11 plays a roll in a larger idealistic vision. once i do this, 9-11 makes much more sense. looking at politics and the goals of the bush administration before 9-11, and after, there is a perfect continuation(ill explain later, for im abuot to take kid to chuckie cheeese).
you can attempt to rip apart my evidence. you can say the idea of a controlled demolotion is a little far fetched. i agree, but i have watched the towers collpase atleats 100 times, and im confident without a doubt that they did not fall naturally. do u not rememeber directly after 9-11, the governments, the red cross, just about everbody was saying "dont watch the towers fall", becuase of our psycologically sensitivity? did u recall that the speed in which it was cleaned up, having most of the materials swiftly recycled? 9-11 was a crime against humanity, not an act of war. any crime needs to be investigated. this was not. ever wonder y our government knew absolutly nothing abuot this, but within 2 days they knew everythign abuot it? who did, what the organization of the cells were, who was responsible... i will further reply later.
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 01 2003 09:08 GMT
#69
On September 01 2003 08:24 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
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The cell phone calls on flight 4 contradict this. People have said that a group of muslim men hijacked the plane and were going to crash it into a buildings. Do you think it is a coincidence that 3 other planes were hijacked that day and there were muslim's on board?


project achilles
cell phone test

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I guess we are ruling out the possibility of a fake ID?

that is my point. we go to war with an arab country, becuase supposedly arabs hi jacked our planes, but we really dont know who the hell did it.

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I am sorry to inform you of this.. but the NYTimes is more reliable than www.UScrusades.com

if u want a link to a main stream media source about an issue, i will attempt to give it to u. ironcilly, "crusades" is exactly what bush called the war vs an arab country...


Yeah you are right. I Guess those wives were lieing about their husbands calling them and telling them that they were going to rush the hijackers. But why would they have called the police and told them they have received phones calls from their husbands and told the 911 operator what was going on? Are you going to try to prove that their home phone is unable to dial 911?

With that being said.. We now know that the hijackers on 9/11 were Arab which justifies a war against Osama Bin Laden and his organazation who TAKE CREDIT for the attacks. You have a muslim terrorist saying IT WAS ME! IT WAS ME! and you have Psylo over here saying NO IT WASNT!! IT WAS BUSH!! HE WAS BEHIND IT!!

and about a link to a more popular source. Yes, give it to me.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 01 2003 09:11 GMT
#70
On September 01 2003 08:26 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
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the first link says that the planes COULD NOT HAVE MELTED the steel.

So... what did? Earthquakes? Did they shake it so hard that the molecules just liqufied? Your credibility is gone. I am off to sleep. Good night.

your not to quick to catch on... man.. almost made me giggle


good response. Too bad you didn't answer my question. What melted the steel? Bombs that Bush planted underground? and as for you saying that the seismic spikes were a few seconds before they buildings collapsed... Your Source didn't say that. We both read the same thing yet you somehow "know more." If you could please provide me a link where it says the seismic spikes were a few seconds before...
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 01 2003 09:13 GMT
#71
On September 01 2003 08:35 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
does

the president might not have ever thought that planes could hit the buildings, but fox sure did.
fox tv pilot. eeerie...


Does it matter if it possible? It is probably possible for N korea to hit LA with a nuclear missle.. If that happens.. does that mean Bush made them nuke us? Or if they did would you try to tell us that it wasn't a nuke just giant bombs that Bush planted underground?
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
September 01 2003 09:17 GMT
#72
On September 01 2003 18:08 BlackJack wrote:

With that being said.. We now know that the hijackers on 9/11 were Arab which justifies a war against Osama Bin Laden and his organazation who TAKE CREDIT for the attacks.



usa never made a war against Osama Bin Laden and his organization(or against terrorism for that matter), I don't think you're that naive
I love mankind, its people I hate
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
September 01 2003 09:22 GMT
#73
Uhh.... boy, I guess that whole thing in AFGHANISTAN never happened...
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 01 2003 09:22 GMT
#74
When you invade a country because they have a government who supports and houses terrorists.. and you capture people from this organazation, it's called a war on terror since that is what you are after.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 01 2003 09:23 GMT
#75
Lol Logic..
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 01 2003 09:24 GMT
#76
On September 01 2003 09:18 Klogon wrote:
Well the NORAD thing got me.

So yes, they could have stopped it. They had the chance to, because they had prior warning that it might happen. So if all these sources were saying a plane might hit the WTC on 9/11, I think NORAD would have been more alert than ever. And they even had a plan to stop this.

So why didn't they?

Maybe they just screwed up... I guess we might never know... or maybe not...


Perhaps if you were president.. you probably would have given the command to shoot down a plane with 50 civillians without hesitating. And what if they had engine trouble, and their radios weren't working.. Too bad?
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 01 2003 09:27 GMT
#77
On September 01 2003 09:24 Klogon wrote:
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1) the planes held 40-50 people because hijacking a fucking jumbo jet with 300 people is more difficult to pull off and not get raped by the passengers / get raped in general.

And they happened to know the fact that these planes would have 40-50 long before they did it right? I mean if they wanted a plane with 40-50, wouln't it be easier to get a plane with about that much max?

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its JUST as likely if not more likely that two f'ing planes flying into skyscrapers followed by massive explosions due to fuel
Uhh, the planes hit the towers. Then it was a LONG TIME later that the towers fell. And the waves were seconds before the fall.

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hi my name is propoganda. after 9/11 there was a lot of me flowing throughout the internet, so much so that a bunch of 18-40 year old people picked up on me, and from there on decided to base THEIR own bullshit theories on MY non-reliable and inconclusive conspiracy theories. Pretty soon because of me, we had a bunch of unqualified fools mass spreading me throughout the world wide web because their lives did not suffice without a little controversy!

And I also have people backing up my "propoganda" even though they just now admitted it was propoganda.


Because the planes had minimal passengers proves nothing. Nobody was forced off that plane or prevented from getting on it. So what is the argument here?


Also, you have no proof that the seismic spikes were a few seconds before the towers collapsing. You are going by what Psylo says, who is going by what some idiot says. Even though that idiot never said that. Psylo just switches it around to fit his liking
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
September 01 2003 09:28 GMT
#78
blackjack actually it is too bad, they are suppose to be shot down at all costs if they enter certain air space. i think we can all agree your an idiot
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esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
September 01 2003 09:34 GMT
#79
it was usama fucking laden end of story
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
September 01 2003 09:34 GMT
#80
HovZ, stop trying to convince people that you are either a) intelligent, or b) know what in God's name you're talking about.

As for the planes having only 40-5 people, think about it; early on a Tuesday morning, in September. Not exactly a time when a lot of people will be flying. I bet most planes didn't have too many people on them at the time.

I really don't see any relevance in the seismic spikes. New York is on top of a giant faultline. It just doesn't frequently experience much in the way of earthquakes (speaking geologically... in other words, thousands of years).
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