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Come on seriously this guy was an alien intellegency wise you cant deny it
"Billy Sidis qualified for admission to Harvard at 9, but had to wait two years to matriculate as a special student."
"He sped through grade school, completing all seven grades in seven months, though he was not so good at maths to begin with. He took an interest at seven and even developed a set of logarithms in base twelve. He devised his own speed-reading system, wrote four books between the ages of six and eight and invented a new Esperanto-like language. By the time he was eight William had passed the Harvard Medical School anatomy examination and the entrance exam for the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "
"At eleven he enrolled as a 'special student' at Harvard and at twelve delivered a lecture on 'four-dimensional bodies' to the Harvard Mathematical Club"
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thats not intelligence zach. Intelligence is basically potential. Not achievement.
and iq is intelligence quotient, mental age divided by physical age. What prevents someone from being that high? What if their mental age was much higher than their physical age???
The highest recorded iq was 210 by a 4 year old prodigy. Obviously if there is an upper bound on the scale then a certain iq can not be reached by a single test, but I would not doubt his iq being WELL over 200.
If i am correct it is so many standard deviations above the average that of all the people in history, less than 5000 would have an iq this high. From what I remember, the average iq is 100 and the standard deviation is 15, so roughly 7 standard deviations above average (and sidis would probably be roughly 8). To give you an idea of how small this is, 3 standard deviations would be about an iq of 145. this would encompass approximately 2 out of every 1000 people. And each increase in standard deviation DRASTICALLY decreases the percentage of people in that upper echelon.
Of all the aforementioned people in the first paragraph of the story, I believe John Stuart Mill had an iq of 190, even though everything he accomplished was really the accomplishment of his bitch (possibly the only instance of intelligent estrogen besides marilyn von whatever the fuck her name is)
ah well, im gonna go grab a statistics book and try to figure out something past 1st std above = 84%, 2nd = 97.5, 3rd = 99.85.
edit: note, i am assuming his iq is about 220 and not much higher simply because nobody in history ever had an iq that high, so im being generous and adding 10 to the highest recorded value.
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On this page: http://www.pentaone.com/hannibal/iq.shtml
it states:
"Billy could learn a whole language in one day! Billy knew all the languages (approximately 200) of the world, and could translate among them instantly!"
Huh!?
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ok, 6 standard deviations is about 1 one hundred millionth (unless they cut it off in this textbook), or .00000001 percent of people, or 1 out of 100,000,000 people have an iq that high. Now, this is assuming the standard deviation is 15, i may be wrong about that.
This also doesnt say anything about 8 standard deviations, i dont have a formula, just a chart. So if you have an iq of 190, consider yourself one of the 60 most intelligent people in the world today (according to my assumptions).
My guess is 8 standard deviations would be roughly 1 out of 20+ billion, so maybe the smartest person every hundred years has an iq this high. This is fuzzy math, I should probably aim to be more precise considering ill be doing something math related for a living, but oh well, im a lazy piece of shit and id rather do nothing when im 19.
all in all, this basically shows this is one smart cookie :/
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i mean a language in a day is ridiculous....
if u already know 20 langauages, it would not be that far fetched. "knowing" a language is not exactly strictly defined either.
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oh, and as for the language in a day...
i believe it solely because once you know that many languages, you probably understand all the language groups. jumping from spanish to italian is not hard reading wise, speaking is slightly different, but considering he was socially inept, i highly doubt that speaking really mattered to him.
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wow, beat me by a minute, you little bitch 
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O:! i made 170 IQ on a for-adults IQ test when i was 14 ^_^ of course i hate studying and just partah~ :p
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On August 30 2003 20:05 BigBalls wrote: wow, beat me by a minute, you little bitch \
u swimmin with the sharks now big dog
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this is just a test of your intelligence - believing everything you read somewhere in the internet :>
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That was a pretty interesting read.
I had never heard the story about the man, but I had heard about things that probably referred to him. But the more I know, the more I become convinced that he was NOT anything special. His life was simply used to expand his intelligence. In the end maybe he did appear at a higher level than most people, but I don't think his potential was any higher as a base than anyone elses.
I don't believe in intelligence setting people apart at all. There's too much evidence in the world that intelligence is nothing more than a useless statistic. Motivation however, is the key factor that shapes the people in this world and what they do. Even your story shows enormous evidence of that.
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Norway28665 Posts
orlandu what?
nothing special?
not a higher potential as a base than anyone elses?
I mean, I agree with you that intelligence (or, not intelligence, but IQ, is a pretty useless attribute. one of the people I respect the most and whom I consider the smartest would most likely score around 100, not any higher for sure, on an iq test. but she is more socially intelligent than everyone I know and yadayada. there are just so many kinds of intelligence..
but saying this guy was not special when he had an iq well over 200 is just flat out wrong. :D
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BigBalls you are ABSOLUTELY wrong, 200 is a very high IQ but its not even near to be the higest iq of a human, experts calculate einstein's IQ arround 314-320, and there are record of a 14 y/o kid in the ex-former URSS that had over 400 because of a genetic desease called hipersinapsis, that exceed the regular electric charge generated by the axons of the brain cells, the problem is that his brain couldnt take it and he was sent to a mental insitution where he died by self inflicted wounds.
and that guy is right, intelligence is not about archievements since most of the super geniuses spend all their lifes dealing with their own minds rather than creating.
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genius are not if they dont enjoy their own life =D
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Russian Federation772 Posts
if you push yourself hard enough (incredibly fucking hard) and have some kind of general intelligence you can equal or surpass einstein and william james sidis.
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Russian Federation772 Posts
its just too bad the EASIEST thing to do in this world is nothing.. that is why there are so few "geniuses"
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sort of what i was thinking.. i wonder how much fun this guy had.
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WickedDreams, thanks, very interesting
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