EPTand i agree
pc gaming now is just disappointment...
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Kacas
Brazil3143 Posts
and i agree pc gaming now is just disappointment... | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
Do you know how many games have failed, despite having regard to your sentiments? Or maybe not fail - but certainly come nowhere close to their console counterparts. Let's take a look at Armies of Exigo, Pox Nora, Shattered Galaxy, and Battle Realms. Do you know how many people i've directed to play the CCG Pox Nora - http://www.poxnora.com - and will not even bother with it because the graphics suck? And some of these people are hardcore players who don't give a fuck about graphics. I'm not going to attribute this game's lack of success specifically to just its graphics, but personal experience tells me that some players (most even!) won't even experience the game long enough to be aware of every other reason not to play it. This isn't just a piracy issue (though Piracy is a large part). It's the lack of hassle for a console game. You buy the game and you plug it in and it works. It doesn't have dodgy patching processes. It doesn't have system malfunctions (because the manufacturer happened to not test your specific hardware setup), it doesn't deal with install processes (at least not like a PC), they're cheaper, etc. You also mentioned that console games are flexing their graphics muscles - this is absolutely true. It poses an even bigger threat to PC developers. I agree that the industry needs to adapt to its consumers. But if the answer was as simple as "better gameplay, less graphics", the industry would have adapted right away. Some companies do follow that cocktail, simply because they don't have the kind of budget to support top-graphics. All they have going for them is great gameplay (again, see pox nora), since they have nothing else to base their game on. Name me 5 (PC) games that came out in the past 2 years that had shitty graphics, pathetic online-support (since that is as expensive as graphics), were made by companies that have not been around for more than 5 years, and sold in the millions. Blizzard has the luxury to sit on their ass and get games right. They have an inexhaustable budget. They have such a huge fan base that their games are going to sell in the millions regardless of how shitty they are (though they'll never be shitty). They have the prestige to attract the greatest talent in the industry. They have Rob fucking Pardo. The future? Monopolized PC Developers who make awesome, beautiful games, while all the other companies die out. These developers will adapt to the consumer market. These companies will also have further creative freedom because of such monopolies. I hope they exercise that freedom. I want something better than WoW. | ||
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Quesadilla
United States1814 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On May 28 2008 13:39 Quesadilla wrote: I go over to Fry's now in Anaheim and get depressed. It's pretty much the last haven for gamers like us, and the kids who grew up playing Prince of Persia on DOS. Unlike Best Buy, Gamestop, etc. they have 4 ROWS of PC games in stock, including titles like Tomb Raider still in the triangle shaped box. That place makes me happy, but it's the only place left, and probably on it's way into decline. Frick, PC gaming has to stay alive.....! I can't even remember the last time I bought a PC game from a brick and mortar store... probably when I bought jewel cases of Mafia and Jedi Academy for 10 bucks at Walmart. Actually, that's a lie. I bought Dawn of War and Winter Conquest a few years after that (and those came out on Steam not too long ago). Every other computer game I've bought in the past 5 years has been on Steam. Come to think of it, Starcraft 2 is probably going to be my last foreseeable boxed game purchase. Remember when they had the gigantic boxes? I kind of miss those. These days we get the tiny little boxes that are hard to get excited about at all.  | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
i'm happy with starcraft along with winamp and mozilla i don't really need any more games and if pc developers want to develop for consoles instead it's no biggie imo | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On May 28 2008 13:56 zer0das wrote: Remember when they had the gigantic boxes? I kind of miss those. These days we get the tiny little boxes that are hard to get excited about at all. haha yeah the box for starcraft was great! had that fold out page with all the graphics and info they make em smaller now so they can pack more on the shelves gotta give credit to blizzard though , they always pack a GOOD sized manual in and not one with 10 pages or worse - a digital manual! | ||
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thoraxe
United States1449 Posts
On February 28 2008 09:33 DJEtterStyle wrote: What does this have to do with TeamLiquid.net or professional gaming? Well, not a whole lot. But it has everything to do with StarCraft 2, Warcraft 4, Diablo 3, World of Warcraft 2, Supreme Commander 2, Command and Conquer 4, Spore, Spore Evolved, SimMultiverse, Leisure Suit Larry 18, Notice how all of these games are either RTS or simulators, not action intensive. To be honest, I never saw when the PC gaming industry was the primary market, the consoles is where all the money is AND where the bigger variety of games, that have gameplay astounding only at the hands of a joystick, are. It's a natural evolution that happens with every revolution. The time has come, and some things are forced to change, whether they want to or not. edit: Although Mora and others have pointed out some causes to this shift, it'd take an eternity(or maybe i'm just lazy) to list them all out. One main reason that comes to my mind is the fact that back then, people were more calm and peaceful but now that we have all of these hexic and frantic images in the television(1 factor that is influencing factors responsible for the behavior of gamers) that sub-consciously(sometimes consciously) influenced individuals to act like if they had ADHD. Which contributes to what Mora said, that in consoles you just pop in the cd and your ready to roll, but to game in a comp, you first must wait for it to load, and if you have 714GB of porn, you know that takes a long time. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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chiflutz
Romania1025 Posts
New game from Blizzard ? I'd buy it in a heartbeat. | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
On May 28 2008 14:09 PobTheCad wrote: haha yeah the box for starcraft was great! had that fold out page with all the graphics and info they make em smaller now so they can pack more on the shelves gotta give credit to blizzard though , they always pack a GOOD sized manual in and not one with 10 pages or worse - a digital manual! i got a digital manual with my sc | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
On May 28 2008 17:31 teamsolid wrote: I have a feeling that the next Blizzard games after SC2 will all be multiplatform for sure (probably Diablo III). There's just no reason not to focus on a much larger market. All major RTS franchises and even TBS games will become multiplatform or console exclusive as well... just look at C&C, Supreme Commander, Civ, etc. Blizzard sure as hell likes money just as much as any other company... or else they wouldn't have made WoW. They made WoW because it's the best f***ing mmorpg of all time. Not saying you should play it. Don't. | ||
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Hasse
Sweden579 Posts
On May 28 2008 20:14 ForAdun wrote: They made WoW because it's the best f***ing mmorpg of all time. Not saying you should play it. Don't. Its not the best, its just the easiest to learn. It used to be the best though, but now they've killed the community and the game is stuck in a downward spiral. This is ofcourse from a hardcore point of view, any moron with crappy computer that plays for 2 hours a week will still enjoy the game. | ||
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
On May 28 2008 21:17 Hasse wrote: Its not the best, its just the easiest to learn. It used to be the best though, but now they've killed the community and the game is stuck in a downward spiral. This is ofcourse from a hardcore point of view, any moron with crappy computer that plays for 2 hours a week will still enjoy the game. How did they kill the community? I have no information about the current situation, I only know WoW destroyed my sc friends list when it was released, so addicting was it to them. | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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omgbnetsux
United States3749 Posts
On May 28 2008 21:17 Hasse wrote: Its not the best, its just the easiest to learn. It used to be the best though, but now they've killed the community and the game is stuck in a downward spiral. This is ofcourse from a hardcore point of view, any moron with crappy computer that plays for 2 hours a week will still enjoy the game. Casual market = $$$ Don't hate, they subsidize the high end content. | ||
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