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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44041 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-29 12:00:49
December 29 2024 11:59 GMT
#701
On December 29 2024 08:27 KoveN- wrote:
The "far right" is rising and will continue to do so. You can all whine about it and ironically call others childish but there's absolutely nothing else you can do about it. We will be taking power in all western nations because you do and always did belong to a dying ideology built on lies and the truth always comes to light given enough time.


The irony of an ultra-conservative accusing others of having dying ideologies... lol. While it's somewhat terrifying that someone on the "far right" feels emboldened enough to make a public post, historically your side has a pretty bad track record. You're the cause of the occasional "few steps back" as the rest of us make progress, so enjoy the next four years of your swastikas and white hoods and red hats while you can, because thankfully in the zoomed-out grand scheme of things, you're a dying breed.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4710 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-29 12:36:27
December 29 2024 12:35 GMT
#702
Astupid question: Mao and Stalin... ~100 M dead.. does the far left have a good track record then? No, we just have to keep railguards in place. Any far anything ideology should be looked at with a very highly raised eyebrow and inevitably be curbed as they drown in their own overenthousiasm to extinguish lesser than theirs.

I say stupid because I generally don't like the: but what about them finger poitning. It's childish.
Taxes are for Terrans
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9480 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-29 13:03:13
December 29 2024 12:55 GMT
#703
On December 29 2024 21:35 Uldridge wrote:
Astupid question: Mao and Stalin... ~100 M dead.. does the far left have a good track record then? No, we just have to keep railguards in place. Any far anything ideology should be looked at with a very highly raised eyebrow and inevitably be curbed as they drown in their own overenthousiasm to extinguish lesser than theirs.

I say stupid because I generally don't like the: but what about them finger poitning. It's childish.


Don't forget the cat and dog holocaust caused by extreme far left border policy in the US in 2024.
RIP Meatloaf <3
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24378 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-29 14:06:25
December 29 2024 13:20 GMT
#704
On December 29 2024 21:35 Uldridge wrote:
Astupid question: Mao and Stalin... ~100 M dead.. does the far left have a good track record then? No, we just have to keep railguards in place. Any far anything ideology should be looked at with a very highly raised eyebrow and inevitably be curbed as they drown in their own overenthousiasm to extinguish lesser than theirs.

I say stupid because I generally don't like the: but what about them finger poitning. It's childish.

The far left aren’t really in the ascendancy at this juncture, I think it’s only natural for more concern to be expressed at the gains of further right populism.

‘But what about the far left?’ makes much more sense to express in say, 1930s Germany where there are appreciably large political movements and violence from either extreme.

Also happy cake day!
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5405 Posts
December 29 2024 13:24 GMT
#705
On December 29 2024 15:45 Acrofales wrote:
Women also have a shared perspective that is often different from men's perspective. If it were exclusively up to men, women would be getting groped, sent dick pics, and far worse, in the workplace. Luckily we don't just listen to men, and far too many women have spoken out about their experiences and how it was unpleasant. So we have laws, regulations, protocols and systems in place that allow women to feel safer (not yet safe, unfortunately) in their workplace. Without including women's perspective, we wouldn't have gotten there.

This isn't true. For the same reasons men exclusively gave women the right to vote. Men, unlike the selfish/narcissist/devil simulacra of them you portray, have a vested interest in not having their mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, getting groped in the workplace. The laws you mention are not a magic spell that exist outside of humans that you can program into the matrix and work regardless of what the silly humans decide to do. They are a manifestation of the underlying social contract. The laws don't protect people. The people, meaning men, protect, through the laws.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3709 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-29 13:28:53
December 29 2024 13:27 GMT
#706
It's hilarious to me that Elon Musk constantly tweets about DEI regarding a matter that has nothing to do with DEI and his followers just go ape mode every single time. It's the boy who cried bunny but with the mass delusion that the bunny is a wolf. Elon Musk is literally a cult leader. He's running an international sect.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3709 Posts
December 29 2024 13:38 GMT
#707
On December 29 2024 21:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2024 21:35 Uldridge wrote:
Astupid question: Mao and Stalin... ~100 M dead.. does the far left have a good track record then? No, we just have to keep railguards in place. Any far anything ideology should be looked at with a very highly raised eyebrow and inevitably be curbed as they drown in their own overenthousiasm to extinguish lesser than theirs.

I say stupid because I generally don't like the: but what about them finger poitning. It's childish.


Don't forget the cat and dog holocaust caused by extreme far left border policy in the US in 2024.


Pet owners were running scared during those days. I'm actually quite concerned that more people will never learn about the Haitian invasion of the US. I hope Trump makes a "remember the cats and dogs"-day so our grandchildren understand the gravity of it all.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12043 Posts
December 29 2024 14:40 GMT
#708
On December 29 2024 22:24 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2024 15:45 Acrofales wrote:
Women also have a shared perspective that is often different from men's perspective. If it were exclusively up to men, women would be getting groped, sent dick pics, and far worse, in the workplace. Luckily we don't just listen to men, and far too many women have spoken out about their experiences and how it was unpleasant. So we have laws, regulations, protocols and systems in place that allow women to feel safer (not yet safe, unfortunately) in their workplace. Without including women's perspective, we wouldn't have gotten there.

This isn't true. For the same reasons men exclusively gave women the right to vote. Men, unlike the selfish/narcissist/devil simulacra of them you portray, have a vested interest in not having their mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, getting groped in the workplace. The laws you mention are not a magic spell that exist outside of humans that you can program into the matrix and work regardless of what the silly humans decide to do. They are a manifestation of the underlying social contract. The laws don't protect people. The people, meaning men, protect, through the laws.


This has been settled a long time ago, you can just want something to not happen to your mother, wife, sister, daughter, and not care at all if it happens, or actively want it to happen, to others, it's not a contradiction at all. You can want people to be deported from a country but you wouldn't want that to happen to you, you can want homeless people to be "dealt with" in ways that you wouldn't want to be dealt with, you can want people to be discriminated against for their gender or sexual orientation without wanting to be discriminated against for your gender or sexual orientation.

It's more or less the job description of the right to create conditions that are worse for people that are strangers than they are for people close to you.

On December 29 2024 20:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
you're a dying breed.


Unfortunately I don't get that sense :/
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44041 Posts
December 29 2024 14:55 GMT
#709
On December 29 2024 22:24 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2024 15:45 Acrofales wrote:
Women also have a shared perspective that is often different from men's perspective. If it were exclusively up to men, women would be getting groped, sent dick pics, and far worse, in the workplace. Luckily we don't just listen to men, and far too many women have spoken out about their experiences and how it was unpleasant. So we have laws, regulations, protocols and systems in place that allow women to feel safer (not yet safe, unfortunately) in their workplace. Without including women's perspective, we wouldn't have gotten there.

This isn't true. For the same reasons men exclusively gave women the right to vote. Men, unlike the selfish/narcissist/devil simulacra of them you portray, have a vested interest in not having their mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, getting groped in the workplace. The laws you mention are not a magic spell that exist outside of humans that you can program into the matrix and work regardless of what the silly humans decide to do. They are a manifestation of the underlying social contract. The laws don't protect people. The people, meaning men, protect, through the laws.


First of all, men didn't just suddenly decide to give up some of their power to women; women also fought for their own right to vote, and shouldn't be excluded from some of the credit ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage_in_the_United_States ).

Second, our country is extremely split - down party lines - on whether or not we should have safe environments for women. Republicans (especially MAGA Republicans) are rape apologists who laugh off sexual assault confessions as "locker room talk", and they actively pass laws in red states that reduce medical care for women. Progressive men worked alongside women to win additional civil rights for women, but conservative men did - and continue to do - no such thing.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44041 Posts
December 29 2024 15:07 GMT
#710
On December 29 2024 23:40 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2024 20:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
you're a dying breed.


Unfortunately I don't get that sense :/


I think that there's a flare up every once in a while, but I also think that broadly speaking, the most backwards, regressive ideas generally die out (or at least become significantly neutered) when older generations disappear.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5405 Posts
December 29 2024 15:08 GMT
#711
On December 29 2024 23:40 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2024 22:24 oBlade wrote:
On December 29 2024 15:45 Acrofales wrote:
Women also have a shared perspective that is often different from men's perspective. If it were exclusively up to men, women would be getting groped, sent dick pics, and far worse, in the workplace. Luckily we don't just listen to men, and far too many women have spoken out about their experiences and how it was unpleasant. So we have laws, regulations, protocols and systems in place that allow women to feel safer (not yet safe, unfortunately) in their workplace. Without including women's perspective, we wouldn't have gotten there.

This isn't true. For the same reasons men exclusively gave women the right to vote. Men, unlike the selfish/narcissist/devil simulacra of them you portray, have a vested interest in not having their mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, getting groped in the workplace. The laws you mention are not a magic spell that exist outside of humans that you can program into the matrix and work regardless of what the silly humans decide to do. They are a manifestation of the underlying social contract. The laws don't protect people. The people, meaning men, protect, through the laws.


This has been settled a long time ago, you can just want something to not happen to your mother, wife, sister, daughter, and not care at all if it happens, or actively want it to happen, to others, it's not a contradiction at all. You can want people to be deported from a country but you wouldn't want that to happen to you, you can want homeless people to be "dealt with" in ways that you wouldn't want to be dealt with, you can want people to be discriminated against for their gender or sexual orientation without wanting to be discriminated against for your gender or sexual orientation.

If you built a society around the premise that every man set up boundaries and punishments for raping other people, but carved out a special exception for themselves, it would never get off the ground because everyone would realize that everyone had gotten an exception for themselves and so the whole thing applied to nobody, therefore nobody would gain by participating in the group. That is why social contract theory "settled" a long time ago the opposite of whatever the fuck you are talking about. There are already built-in mechanisms to deal with errant hypocrites, which people also implicitly understand, including the hypocrites themselves, which is why they hide.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12043 Posts
December 29 2024 15:39 GMT
#712
On December 30 2024 00:08 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2024 23:40 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 29 2024 22:24 oBlade wrote:
On December 29 2024 15:45 Acrofales wrote:
Women also have a shared perspective that is often different from men's perspective. If it were exclusively up to men, women would be getting groped, sent dick pics, and far worse, in the workplace. Luckily we don't just listen to men, and far too many women have spoken out about their experiences and how it was unpleasant. So we have laws, regulations, protocols and systems in place that allow women to feel safer (not yet safe, unfortunately) in their workplace. Without including women's perspective, we wouldn't have gotten there.

This isn't true. For the same reasons men exclusively gave women the right to vote. Men, unlike the selfish/narcissist/devil simulacra of them you portray, have a vested interest in not having their mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, getting groped in the workplace. The laws you mention are not a magic spell that exist outside of humans that you can program into the matrix and work regardless of what the silly humans decide to do. They are a manifestation of the underlying social contract. The laws don't protect people. The people, meaning men, protect, through the laws.


This has been settled a long time ago, you can just want something to not happen to your mother, wife, sister, daughter, and not care at all if it happens, or actively want it to happen, to others, it's not a contradiction at all. You can want people to be deported from a country but you wouldn't want that to happen to you, you can want homeless people to be "dealt with" in ways that you wouldn't want to be dealt with, you can want people to be discriminated against for their gender or sexual orientation without wanting to be discriminated against for your gender or sexual orientation.

If you built a society around the premise that every man set up boundaries and punishments for raping other people, but carved out a special exception for themselves, it would never get off the ground because everyone would realize that everyone had gotten an exception for themselves and so the whole thing applied to nobody, therefore nobody would gain by participating in the group. That is why social contract theory "settled" a long time ago the opposite of whatever the fuck you are talking about. There are already built-in mechanisms to deal with errant hypocrites, which people also implicitly understand, including the hypocrites themselves, which is why they hide.


None of that is true though. It's generally very hard to be punished for rape, and Acro was talking about generic sexual harassment for which it's even harder. Women are on the record talking about how hard it is to be believed, and it is common for women to adapt their behavior based on the risk of being raped (how they dress, how they interact with men around them, what signals they send (even to men they know well), how drunk they get at parties...). We also consume a lot of media in which women are objectified, which feeds into this general tendency. Society absolutely wasn't built around rape being difficult.

"Every man" didn't do anything and every man doesn't get an exception, that's not how anything works, it's an individual disposition toward people close to you. Think about, like, catcalling. Do you think everyone who has ever catcalled a random woman on the street would be supportive of their mothers, sisters, daughters being catcalled? Obviously not. You can have an opinion on how your sister should be treated that is not the same as your opinion of how women should be treated, because she's your sister, you recognize her humanity. You can be an anti-abortion politician and facilitate your daughter having an abortion if she needs it. When people create worse conditions for groups of human that they aren't a part of, they never mean people who they know.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States642 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-29 20:14:10
December 29 2024 20:04 GMT
#713
On December 29 2024 20:24 KwarK wrote:
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On December 29 2024 13:43 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Call me a peasant, call me a redneck and uncultured.

I really don't understand a jackshit about DEI, and what the hell the purpose of it is about? You can tell me all the glorified goal it tries to achieve. But to a Chinese it just WTF am I living in? I came to the western world and I find myself being policed by bunch of DEI officer(to me is just CCP commissars) and we have so many classification of BS crap. Labeling everyone, and canceling anyone who dare to speak differently. I've had enough with Chinese history in the past, great culture revolution and all the BS my family and rest of China had to endure, and we came to the land of free, I guess is more free to do more stupid shit than whatever we had back then. Democrat's #1 response -> brain dead, uncultured, stars raging and classifying people, showing their intellectual dominance, and starts lecturing away. Please, help me put the food on the table and help my family stay safe, all these DEI had minimal social impact, but look at all the recent disastrous game releases that was dead on arrival because how god forbid DEI officer made those game be, and the CEO and ppl in charge vows to commit to DEI into their death. In meanwhile random games here and there, Black myth wukong, marvel rival has crazy success number. These are made in China. Jesus, you guys want to end CCP? help the people in China? WELL SHIT, they are making better stuff than you guys are, I don't know who is better at this point, apparently I am in such a dystopia, one is shit on paper, and actually shit in reality, but producing amazing product. One is great on paper, shit in reality, and produce shit product. Fuck me, I need to go back to mental hospital, not to sort out my bi-polar, but sort out my tangled reality of WTF am I living in. LOL

Seriously, why does DEI even matter? The goal is fucking great and I am onboard, but the execution is god awful please stop!

I speak more freely on wechat than on a stupid western media/social network. We know exactly what we are talking about, and we can joke about shit shoot shit around and be blunt with each other, but on western media, even gaming chat? Jesus. help me please, I don't understand really.

I probably quite often put some unhinged stuff here, but look, I am just providing my perspective with my background.

now enjoy bashing me with your superior intelligence.

YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING LONG I HOLD OUT NOT TO PLAY VALORANT , and also stopped playing league of legend cause of TENCENT? the company that was owend by CCP?

Well FUCK man, I have no choice, I am a gamer first as a person, I am fucking putting my cash down to TECENT, NetEase, and the studio/company the have majority stock in such as GGG with POE.

Games that are influenced by DEI? FUCKING NO.

Can we have a discussion about this? I REALLY FUCKING HATE CCP. I do with a passion, they took away a shit load of real estate from my family. They were fucking robbers when they came in power, my fucking grand father was canceled and being publicly shamed by CCP and was injured and being sentenced for some stupid shit he said that was just a joke for fuck sake, because literally he just said there was too much water in the congee, anytime more people come, they don't add more rice ,but just add more water. And he was a fucking CCP war hero of his own, he put his fucking life in risk and running through bomb shell hole that are fresh, with comrades on their last breath to put stupid flag in one of the major western Chinese city. This is what he gets afterward, DUDE. It's terrible. but now ..... I am fucking lost guys.

Jesus, you know how fucked up this is?

I am fucking lost guys, get your shit together and can we get back to work on things actually matter?


TLDR: guys, stop calling each others by label, I think we can find shit load of common ground on things actually matter, get to the fact, and forget about politics and party, they are engineered to make fucking people hate each other and fight.

Are you okay?


I am pretty okay, the DEI has got me to feel not okay when it start doing its thing from the beginning. Just very much reminds me everything that was shit in China, why my family decided to pack up and go.

But anyway, I don't think most of these discussion has much of a value personally.

One of my friend mentioned to me how the left and right 50 years ago was so different, and something far right these days was the position of far left was positioned in, and vice versa. So that part doesn't really brother me to much. I don't have a problem at all with DEI's goal, and I am onboard of the goal, just the execution and implementation actually bothers me quite a bit, it just feels what it was like living through Great Culture Revolution in China. It resembles a lot of what the CCP does.


On a more funny note, the CCP's rise was based on the premise that it will make sure everyone are being an owner of their own life. Like the Chinese national anthem, the first sentence goes: "Rise up, the people who doesn't want to be slaves". And yet they just take away all the right to own a single piece of land in whole China, they are the only people who are technically to be allowed to own anything at all. I find that astronomically hilarious and stupid. DEI's current execution and implementation feels very much so the same I feel about how CCP is, and the stupid thing they do literally feels like they ripped a page of CCP playbook.
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3709 Posts
December 29 2024 20:40 GMT
#714
Call me crazy but I have the slight suspicion that Chinese people who have/had to endure the brutality of the CCP would feel just a wee bit offended at people drawing a comparison to DEI.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17911 Posts
December 29 2024 21:14 GMT
#715
On December 29 2024 22:24 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2024 15:45 Acrofales wrote:
Women also have a shared perspective that is often different from men's perspective. If it were exclusively up to men, women would be getting groped, sent dick pics, and far worse, in the workplace. Luckily we don't just listen to men, and far too many women have spoken out about their experiences and how it was unpleasant. So we have laws, regulations, protocols and systems in place that allow women to feel safer (not yet safe, unfortunately) in their workplace. Without including women's perspective, we wouldn't have gotten there.

This isn't true. For the same reasons men exclusively gave women the right to vote. Men, unlike the selfish/narcissist/devil simulacra of them you portray, have a vested interest in not having their mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, getting groped in the workplace. The laws you mention are not a magic spell that exist outside of humans that you can program into the matrix and work regardless of what the silly humans decide to do. They are a manifestation of the underlying social contract. The laws don't protect people. The people, meaning men, protect, through the laws.

I thought maybe you were pointing out another gap in my knowledge of American history and suffrage was an uncontroversial topic there that women didn't have to protest for, but https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage_in_the_United_States makes it fairly clear that if women hadn't been fighting for the right to vote, men wouldn't have given them jack shit.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42249 Posts
December 30 2024 00:00 GMT
#716
On December 30 2024 05:04 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2024 20:24 KwarK wrote:
On December 29 2024 13:43 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Call me a peasant, call me a redneck and uncultured.

I really don't understand a jackshit about DEI, and what the hell the purpose of it is about? You can tell me all the glorified goal it tries to achieve. But to a Chinese it just WTF am I living in? I came to the western world and I find myself being policed by bunch of DEI officer(to me is just CCP commissars) and we have so many classification of BS crap. Labeling everyone, and canceling anyone who dare to speak differently. I've had enough with Chinese history in the past, great culture revolution and all the BS my family and rest of China had to endure, and we came to the land of free, I guess is more free to do more stupid shit than whatever we had back then. Democrat's #1 response -> brain dead, uncultured, stars raging and classifying people, showing their intellectual dominance, and starts lecturing away. Please, help me put the food on the table and help my family stay safe, all these DEI had minimal social impact, but look at all the recent disastrous game releases that was dead on arrival because how god forbid DEI officer made those game be, and the CEO and ppl in charge vows to commit to DEI into their death. In meanwhile random games here and there, Black myth wukong, marvel rival has crazy success number. These are made in China. Jesus, you guys want to end CCP? help the people in China? WELL SHIT, they are making better stuff than you guys are, I don't know who is better at this point, apparently I am in such a dystopia, one is shit on paper, and actually shit in reality, but producing amazing product. One is great on paper, shit in reality, and produce shit product. Fuck me, I need to go back to mental hospital, not to sort out my bi-polar, but sort out my tangled reality of WTF am I living in. LOL

Seriously, why does DEI even matter? The goal is fucking great and I am onboard, but the execution is god awful please stop!

I speak more freely on wechat than on a stupid western media/social network. We know exactly what we are talking about, and we can joke about shit shoot shit around and be blunt with each other, but on western media, even gaming chat? Jesus. help me please, I don't understand really.

I probably quite often put some unhinged stuff here, but look, I am just providing my perspective with my background.

now enjoy bashing me with your superior intelligence.

YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING LONG I HOLD OUT NOT TO PLAY VALORANT , and also stopped playing league of legend cause of TENCENT? the company that was owend by CCP?

Well FUCK man, I have no choice, I am a gamer first as a person, I am fucking putting my cash down to TECENT, NetEase, and the studio/company the have majority stock in such as GGG with POE.

Games that are influenced by DEI? FUCKING NO.

Can we have a discussion about this? I REALLY FUCKING HATE CCP. I do with a passion, they took away a shit load of real estate from my family. They were fucking robbers when they came in power, my fucking grand father was canceled and being publicly shamed by CCP and was injured and being sentenced for some stupid shit he said that was just a joke for fuck sake, because literally he just said there was too much water in the congee, anytime more people come, they don't add more rice ,but just add more water. And he was a fucking CCP war hero of his own, he put his fucking life in risk and running through bomb shell hole that are fresh, with comrades on their last breath to put stupid flag in one of the major western Chinese city. This is what he gets afterward, DUDE. It's terrible. but now ..... I am fucking lost guys.

Jesus, you know how fucked up this is?

I am fucking lost guys, get your shit together and can we get back to work on things actually matter?


TLDR: guys, stop calling each others by label, I think we can find shit load of common ground on things actually matter, get to the fact, and forget about politics and party, they are engineered to make fucking people hate each other and fight.

Are you okay?


I am pretty okay, the DEI has got me to feel not okay when it start doing its thing from the beginning. Just very much reminds me everything that was shit in China, why my family decided to pack up and go.

But anyway, I don't think most of these discussion has much of a value personally.

One of my friend mentioned to me how the left and right 50 years ago was so different, and something far right these days was the position of far left was positioned in, and vice versa. So that part doesn't really brother me to much. I don't have a problem at all with DEI's goal, and I am onboard of the goal, just the execution and implementation actually bothers me quite a bit, it just feels what it was like living through Great Culture Revolution in China. It resembles a lot of what the CCP does.


On a more funny note, the CCP's rise was based on the premise that it will make sure everyone are being an owner of their own life. Like the Chinese national anthem, the first sentence goes: "Rise up, the people who doesn't want to be slaves". And yet they just take away all the right to own a single piece of land in whole China, they are the only people who are technically to be allowed to own anything at all. I find that astronomically hilarious and stupid. DEI's current execution and implementation feels very much so the same I feel about how CCP is, and the stupid thing they do literally feels like they ripped a page of CCP playbook.

It doesn’t feel like you’re okay.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States642 Posts
December 30 2024 00:40 GMT
#717
On December 30 2024 09:00 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2024 05:04 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On December 29 2024 20:24 KwarK wrote:
On December 29 2024 13:43 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Call me a peasant, call me a redneck and uncultured.

I really don't understand a jackshit about DEI, and what the hell the purpose of it is about? You can tell me all the glorified goal it tries to achieve. But to a Chinese it just WTF am I living in? I came to the western world and I find myself being policed by bunch of DEI officer(to me is just CCP commissars) and we have so many classification of BS crap. Labeling everyone, and canceling anyone who dare to speak differently. I've had enough with Chinese history in the past, great culture revolution and all the BS my family and rest of China had to endure, and we came to the land of free, I guess is more free to do more stupid shit than whatever we had back then. Democrat's #1 response -> brain dead, uncultured, stars raging and classifying people, showing their intellectual dominance, and starts lecturing away. Please, help me put the food on the table and help my family stay safe, all these DEI had minimal social impact, but look at all the recent disastrous game releases that was dead on arrival because how god forbid DEI officer made those game be, and the CEO and ppl in charge vows to commit to DEI into their death. In meanwhile random games here and there, Black myth wukong, marvel rival has crazy success number. These are made in China. Jesus, you guys want to end CCP? help the people in China? WELL SHIT, they are making better stuff than you guys are, I don't know who is better at this point, apparently I am in such a dystopia, one is shit on paper, and actually shit in reality, but producing amazing product. One is great on paper, shit in reality, and produce shit product. Fuck me, I need to go back to mental hospital, not to sort out my bi-polar, but sort out my tangled reality of WTF am I living in. LOL

Seriously, why does DEI even matter? The goal is fucking great and I am onboard, but the execution is god awful please stop!

I speak more freely on wechat than on a stupid western media/social network. We know exactly what we are talking about, and we can joke about shit shoot shit around and be blunt with each other, but on western media, even gaming chat? Jesus. help me please, I don't understand really.

I probably quite often put some unhinged stuff here, but look, I am just providing my perspective with my background.

now enjoy bashing me with your superior intelligence.

YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING LONG I HOLD OUT NOT TO PLAY VALORANT , and also stopped playing league of legend cause of TENCENT? the company that was owend by CCP?

Well FUCK man, I have no choice, I am a gamer first as a person, I am fucking putting my cash down to TECENT, NetEase, and the studio/company the have majority stock in such as GGG with POE.

Games that are influenced by DEI? FUCKING NO.

Can we have a discussion about this? I REALLY FUCKING HATE CCP. I do with a passion, they took away a shit load of real estate from my family. They were fucking robbers when they came in power, my fucking grand father was canceled and being publicly shamed by CCP and was injured and being sentenced for some stupid shit he said that was just a joke for fuck sake, because literally he just said there was too much water in the congee, anytime more people come, they don't add more rice ,but just add more water. And he was a fucking CCP war hero of his own, he put his fucking life in risk and running through bomb shell hole that are fresh, with comrades on their last breath to put stupid flag in one of the major western Chinese city. This is what he gets afterward, DUDE. It's terrible. but now ..... I am fucking lost guys.

Jesus, you know how fucked up this is?

I am fucking lost guys, get your shit together and can we get back to work on things actually matter?


TLDR: guys, stop calling each others by label, I think we can find shit load of common ground on things actually matter, get to the fact, and forget about politics and party, they are engineered to make fucking people hate each other and fight.

Are you okay?


I am pretty okay, the DEI has got me to feel not okay when it start doing its thing from the beginning. Just very much reminds me everything that was shit in China, why my family decided to pack up and go.

But anyway, I don't think most of these discussion has much of a value personally.

One of my friend mentioned to me how the left and right 50 years ago was so different, and something far right these days was the position of far left was positioned in, and vice versa. So that part doesn't really brother me to much. I don't have a problem at all with DEI's goal, and I am onboard of the goal, just the execution and implementation actually bothers me quite a bit, it just feels what it was like living through Great Culture Revolution in China. It resembles a lot of what the CCP does.


On a more funny note, the CCP's rise was based on the premise that it will make sure everyone are being an owner of their own life. Like the Chinese national anthem, the first sentence goes: "Rise up, the people who doesn't want to be slaves". And yet they just take away all the right to own a single piece of land in whole China, they are the only people who are technically to be allowed to own anything at all. I find that astronomically hilarious and stupid. DEI's current execution and implementation feels very much so the same I feel about how CCP is, and the stupid thing they do literally feels like they ripped a page of CCP playbook.

It doesn’t feel like you’re okay.


If that's the case, do me a favor and ban my account permanently, I don't see a reason coming back here anyway. bye.


User was banned for this post.
Salty Terran Old dog, love Brood war, enjoy SC2, but absolutely hate SC2 cause I can't react to the minimap fast enough, my eye has gotten old and I need minimap on the right and we can't :(
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Calanthe
Profile Joined October 2012
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-30 14:43:49
December 30 2024 14:40 GMT
#718
On December 30 2024 05:04 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
it just feels what it was like living through Great Culture Revolution in China.


you were alive in the 60s/70s? i know the demographic of TL skews rather older than the general gamer demographic does but i would be surprised to learn people in their 50s and 60s were still posting here.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44041 Posts
December 30 2024 14:45 GMT
#719
On December 30 2024 23:40 Calanthe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2024 05:04 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
it just feels what it was like living through Great Culture Revolution in China.


you were alive in the 60s/70s? i know the demographic of TL skews rather older than the general gamer demographic does but i would be surprised to learn people in their 50s and 60s were still posting here.


Rabbit's long and partially-caps-locked rant did have similar vibes to an old man waving his cane at little kids playing, yelling at them to get off his lawn.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Calanthe
Profile Joined October 2012
United States140 Posts
December 30 2024 15:17 GMT
#720
i wonder if the property DEI has stripped from private owners and placed into its own hands is in the room with us right now.
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