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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 23 2024 09:26 WombaT wrote: [...] Stick to your lane as it were. He has a skillset but that ain’t it, he’s just so consistently wrong, and so consistently makes harmonious relations less likely he should just fuck up Okay i definitely 100% agree with this. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27302 Posts
On December 24 2024 23:10 Magic Powers wrote: Elon declared war on the world. Evil people win when good people don't act. So we act. I’m not sure he’s an actively evil man, I just think he’s got a huge gap between his ego and competency in certain domains. Many people do, the issue with him is he has fuck you money and the power that comes with it to act largely as he pleases. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On December 25 2024 00:07 WombaT wrote: I’m not sure he’s an actively evil man, I just think he’s got a huge gap between his ego and competency in certain domains. Many people do, the issue with him is he has fuck you money and the power that comes with it to act largely as he pleases. I've heard this argument plenty, but I have a different understanding. I'm not an actively good man the same way Elon is not an actively evil man. I would never prioritize desires over actions. A psychopath who desperately wants to commit murder but never kills anyone is not a murderer. Dangerous, yes. But not a murderer. How can I call such a person evil? Their heart may be evil, but their actions are not. This is why calling people "good" or "evil" by their desires alone is a pointless exercise. In terms of moral judgements, desires are generally secondary, while actions ultimately decide who a person truly is. In fact I'd go so far as to say a psychopath who desires the death and harm of other people but never actually kills or harms other people is far more commendable than an empath who commits the worst atrocities imaginable intending to save the world. Elon Musk may be literally the best person in his heart. It would then only be true in his heart. Morally speaking he's a terrifying monster. The wealthiest person in the world using his money for the worst of causes. He's evil. | ||
hexhaven
Finland965 Posts
On December 25 2024 00:07 WombaT wrote: I’m not sure he’s an actively evil man, I just think he’s got a huge gap between his ego and competency in certain domains. Man tweets "Only the AfD can save Germany" so not looking good. Maybe there's some world where he meant that AfD will gain just enough support that Germany will unite in a way not seen ... in a while, and finally get its shit together. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9976 Posts
The Musk/Trump team up is breaking down already. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On December 28 2024 19:54 Jockmcplop wrote: I see Elon has noticed the downside of throwing your hat in with far right ideologues already. The Musk/Trump team up is breaking down already. Regarding the H1B issue I'm torn between Schadenfreude over him getting dunked on and sympathy for the people getting effed over. Elon claims to be America first, but when it costs him money suddenly he puts America last. Of course everyone who understands the chaos Trump always creates also understands that Elon would end up in Trump's crosshairs eventually. His second term hasn't even started and they're already infighting. I won't lie, I have the popcorn ready. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5201 Posts
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
United States715 Posts
On December 25 2024 00:07 WombaT wrote: I’m not sure he’s an actively evil man, I just think he’s got a huge gap between his ego and competency in certain domains. Many people do, the issue with him is he has fuck you money and the power that comes with it to act largely as he pleases. I think you are absolutely right, and I think it is also a good thing he is outspoken so that we can criticize him together and he will stay in his lane hopefully. I would personally say it is better have him do it in the open than him trying to lobby and stuff and doing it in the back. I highly doubt anyone is 100% on anything at all. And definitely everyone has a very different perspective on everything I would say. | ||
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
United States715 Posts
On December 28 2024 22:31 Magic Powers wrote: Regarding the H1B issue I'm torn between Schadenfreude over him getting dunked on and sympathy for the people getting effed over. Elon claims to be America first, but when it costs him money suddenly he puts America last. Of course everyone who understands the chaos Trump always creates also understands that Elon would end up in Trump's crosshairs eventually. His second term hasn't even started and they're already infighting. I won't lie, I have the popcorn ready. Steve Bannon was the first one to go down last time :D that man got his first million from WOW farmers in China, WOW gold selling, lmao. This time Elon made his buck putting shit on X about coins :D j/k but we'll see. I got my popcorn, sushi party tray. I am native in English/Chinese, but I need to get my German back on an okay level, so I know I have places I can live if shit goes south here or there. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
Please be understanding, Elon has some difficulties due to still being in the toddler stage of brain development. He doesn't quite yet understand that the same word can have various meanings depending on context. We'll have to be more lenient and patient with him. https://news.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-elon-musk-urged-185500697.html | ||
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KoveN-
Australia504 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On December 29 2024 08:27 KoveN- wrote: The "far right" is rising and will continue to do so. You can all whine about it and ironically call others childish but there's absolutely nothing else you can do about it. We will be taking power in all western nations because you do and always did belong to a dying ideology built on lies and the truth always comes to light given enough time. The last time the far right took power meaningfully on the world stage we kicked your asses | ||
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hexhaven
Finland965 Posts
On December 29 2024 08:27 KoveN- wrote: The "far right" is rising and will continue to do so. You can all whine about it and ironically call others childish but there's absolutely nothing else you can do about it. We will be taking power in all western nations because you do and always did belong to a dying ideology built on lies and the truth always comes to light given enough time. What? Anyway, Musk penned an opinion piece in Germany, and Die Welt has decided to publish it. The actual piece is paywalled. You probably shouldn't give Axel Springer any more money. The Guardian has a short overview. Quote from their translation: The portrayal of the AfD as rightwing extremist is clearly false, considering that Alice Weidel, the party’s leader, has a same-sex partner from Sri Lanka! Does that sound like Hitler to you? Please! In response to Die Welt publishing the piece, the commentary editor has decided to resign. Announcing it on Twitter, of course. e: Just to give some added context, there's a Tesla factory on the outskirts of Berlin, and there's federal elections coming up early next year, after the German coalition government collapsed about a month ago. The plant has not been without controversy. Reuters link. Protesters opposed to Tesla's expansion of its plant near Berlin were holding out in treehouses on Tuesday as German police climbed up ladders and cut down rope structures in an attempt to clear their forested camp. In May, the protesters clashed with police as some attempted to storm the facility, which is the U.S. electric vehicle maker's only European gigafactory and employs some 12,000 staff. | ||
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hexhaven
Finland965 Posts
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On December 29 2024 08:27 KoveN- wrote: The "far right" is rising and will continue to do so. You can all whine about it and ironically call others childish but there's absolutely nothing else you can do about it. We will be taking power in all western nations because you do and always did belong to a dying ideology built on lies and the truth always comes to light given enough time. Oh. My bad, continue your conquest of the world and the whole galaxy (evil muahahaha noises). The light side shall not stand in the way of the true Sith power. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12523 Posts
On December 29 2024 08:27 KoveN- wrote: The "far right" is rising and will continue to do so. You can all whine about it and ironically call others childish but there's absolutely nothing else you can do about it. We will be taking power in all western nations because you do and always did belong to a dying ideology built on lies and the truth always comes to light given enough time. So, the guy is only thinking in terms of the binary between (neo)liberalism and the far right, so laying it at this forum is a bit silly because we have mainly social democrats and leftists, but in terms of the observation, I think he's right. With all other options taken out of the equation but neoliberalism and the far right, ultimately the far right is going to prevail. Then the far right being on top will lead to a bunch of wars, a lot of people will die but you know, mainly leftists and far right people, and if we are lucky enough to win we'll get to set a new cycle. At least that's how I see things currently. | ||
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
United States715 Posts
I really don't understand a jackshit about DEI, and what the hell the purpose of it is about? You can tell me all the glorified goal it tries to achieve. But to a Chinese it just WTF am I living in? I came to the western world and I find myself being policed by bunch of DEI officer(to me is just CCP commissars) and we have so many classification of BS crap. Labeling everyone, and canceling anyone who dare to speak differently. I've had enough with Chinese history in the past, great culture revolution and all the BS my family and rest of China had to endure, and we came to the land of free, I guess is more free to do more stupid shit than whatever we had back then. Democrat's #1 response -> brain dead, uncultured, stars raging and classifying people, showing their intellectual dominance, and starts lecturing away. Please, help me put the food on the table and help my family stay safe, all these DEI had minimal social impact, but look at all the recent disastrous game releases that was dead on arrival because how god forbid DEI officer made those game be, and the CEO and ppl in charge vows to commit to DEI into their death. In meanwhile random games here and there, Black myth wukong, marvel rival has crazy success number. These are made in China. Jesus, you guys want to end CCP? help the people in China? WELL SHIT, they are making better stuff than you guys are, I don't know who is better at this point, apparently I am in such a dystopia, one is shit on paper, and actually shit in reality, but producing amazing product. One is great on paper, shit in reality, and produce shit product. Fuck me, I need to go back to mental hospital, not to sort out my bi-polar, but sort out my tangled reality of WTF am I living in. LOL Seriously, why does DEI even matter? The goal is fucking great and I am onboard, but the execution is god awful please stop! I speak more freely on wechat than on a stupid western media/social network. We know exactly what we are talking about, and we can joke about shit shoot shit around and be blunt with each other, but on western media, even gaming chat? Jesus. help me please, I don't understand really. I probably quite often put some unhinged stuff here, but look, I am just providing my perspective with my background. now enjoy bashing me with your superior intelligence. YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING LONG I HOLD OUT NOT TO PLAY VALORANT , and also stopped playing league of legend cause of TENCENT? the company that was owend by CCP? Well FUCK man, I have no choice, I am a gamer first as a person, I am fucking putting my cash down to TECENT, NetEase, and the studio/company the have majority stock in such as GGG with POE. Games that are influenced by DEI? FUCKING NO. Can we have a discussion about this? I REALLY FUCKING HATE CCP. I do with a passion, they took away a shit load of real estate from my family. They were fucking robbers when they came in power, my fucking grand father was canceled and being publicly shamed by CCP and was injured and being sentenced for some stupid shit he said that was just a joke for fuck sake, because literally he just said there was too much water in the congee, anytime more people come, they don't add more rice ,but just add more water. And he was a fucking CCP war hero of his own, he put his fucking life in risk and running through bomb shell hole that are fresh, with comrades on their last breath to put stupid flag in one of the major western Chinese city. This is what he gets afterward, DUDE. It's terrible. but now ..... I am fucking lost guys. Jesus, you know how fucked up this is? I am fucking lost guys, get your shit together and can we get back to work on things actually matter? TLDR: guys, stop calling each others by label, I think we can find shit load of common ground on things actually matter, get to the fact, and forget about politics and party, they are engineered to make fucking people hate each other and fight. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18425 Posts
On December 29 2024 13:43 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote: Call me a peasant, call me a redneck and uncultured. I really don't understand a jackshit about DEI, and what the hell the purpose of it is about? You can tell me all the glorified goal it tries to achieve. But to a Chinese it just WTF am I living in? I came to the western world and I find myself being policed by bunch of DEI officer(to me is just CCP commissars) and we have so many classification of BS crap. Labeling everyone, and canceling anyone who dare to speak differently. I've had enough with Chinese history in the past, great culture revolution and all the BS my family and rest of China had to endure, and we came to the land of free, I guess is more free to do more stupid shit than whatever we had back then. Democrat's #1 response -> brain dead, uncultured, stars raging and classifying people, showing their intellectual dominance, and starts lecturing away. Please, help me put the food on the table and help my family stay safe, all these DEI had minimal social impact, but look at all the recent disastrous game releases that was dead on arrival because how god forbid DEI officer made those game be, and the CEO and ppl in charge vows to commit to DEI into their death. In meanwhile random games here and there, Black myth wukong, marvel rival has crazy success number. These are made in China. Jesus, you guys want to end CCP? help the people in China? WELL SHIT, they are making better stuff than you guys are, I don't know who is better at this point, apparently I am in such a dystopia, one is shit on paper, and actually shit in reality, but producing amazing product. One is great on paper, shit in reality, and produce shit product. Fuck me, I need to go back to mental hospital, not to sort out my bi-polar, but sort out my tangled reality of WTF am I living in. LOL Seriously, why does DEI even matter? The goal is fucking great and I am onboard, but the execution is god awful please stop! I speak more freely on wechat than on a stupid western media/social network. We know exactly what we are talking about, and we can joke about shit shoot shit around and be blunt with each other, but on western media, even gaming chat? Jesus. help me please, I don't understand really. I probably quite often put some unhinged stuff here, but look, I am just providing my perspective with my background. now enjoy bashing me with your superior intelligence. YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING LONG I HOLD OUT NOT TO PLAY VALORANT , and also stopped playing league of legend cause of TENCENT? the company that was owend by CCP? Well FUCK man, I have no choice, I am a gamer first as a person, I am fucking putting my cash down to TECENT, NetEase, and the studio/company the have majority stock in such as GGG with POE. Games that are influenced by DEI? FUCKING NO. Can we have a discussion about this? I REALLY FUCKING HATE CCP. I do with a passion, they took away a shit load of real estate from my family. They were fucking robbers when they came in power, my fucking grand father was canceled and being publicly shamed by CCP and was injured and being sentenced for some stupid shit he said that was just a joke for fuck sake, because literally he just said there was too much water in the congee, anytime more people come, they don't add more rice ,but just add more water. And he was a fucking CCP war hero of his own, he put his fucking life in risk and running through bomb shell hole that are fresh, with comrades on their last breath to put stupid flag in one of the major western Chinese city. This is what he gets afterward, DUDE. It's terrible. but now ..... I am fucking lost guys. Jesus, you know how fucked up this is? I am fucking lost guys, get your shit together and can we get back to work on things actually matter? TLDR: guys, stop calling each others by label, I think we can find shit load of common ground on things actually matter, get to the fact, and forget about politics and party, they are engineered to make fucking people hate each other and fight. There's bad implementations and good implementations. So you feel Ketanji Brown Jackson is a bad justice and shouldn't be on the Supreme Court? Or was it totally fine that Biden selected a black woman for her perspective, as long as she was *also* qualified for the position? That, imho, is a good implementation of DEI: while 9 people are never going to represent the diversity that is the USA, they should at least be somewhat diverse. And while I agree everyone is more than a bunch of labels, people often self-identify as a label. You yourself called yourself Chinese to explain some of your positions and background. Women also have a shared perspective that is often different from men's perspective. If it were exclusively up to men, women would be getting groped, sent dick pics, and far worse, in the workplace. Luckily we don't just listen to men, and far too many women have spoken out about their experiences and how it was unpleasant. So we have laws, regulations, protocols and systems in place that allow women to feel safer (not yet safe, unfortunately) in their workplace. Without including women's perspective, we wouldn't have gotten there. Not to mention the amount of products *for women* men have designed badly (laughably so) throughout history, by ignoring what women say they need. We should stop doing stuff like that and listen to them. And in general, almost no company is worse off for including women in equal positions as men. The same goes for other perspectives too, although cultural differences are more subtle than biological ones. A black person is generally very similar to a white person. But coming from a slightly different cultural background will have different perspectives on things. Particularly in government it is important to include people of many cultural backgrounds. But it is also important in representation. If all an Indian girl sees in the media is white supermodels and male scientists, she may just give up on her dreams of modelling or engineering. Or fighting fire. Or becoming an athlete. And maybe she would have really excelled at one of those things, but because she thought those professions were reserved for other people, she never even tried (and because her parents believed it too they dissuaded her from trying). | ||
KwarK
United States44262 Posts
On December 29 2024 13:43 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote: Call me a peasant, call me a redneck and uncultured. I really don't understand a jackshit about DEI, and what the hell the purpose of it is about? You can tell me all the glorified goal it tries to achieve. But to a Chinese it just WTF am I living in? I came to the western world and I find myself being policed by bunch of DEI officer(to me is just CCP commissars) and we have so many classification of BS crap. Labeling everyone, and canceling anyone who dare to speak differently. I've had enough with Chinese history in the past, great culture revolution and all the BS my family and rest of China had to endure, and we came to the land of free, I guess is more free to do more stupid shit than whatever we had back then. Democrat's #1 response -> brain dead, uncultured, stars raging and classifying people, showing their intellectual dominance, and starts lecturing away. Please, help me put the food on the table and help my family stay safe, all these DEI had minimal social impact, but look at all the recent disastrous game releases that was dead on arrival because how god forbid DEI officer made those game be, and the CEO and ppl in charge vows to commit to DEI into their death. In meanwhile random games here and there, Black myth wukong, marvel rival has crazy success number. These are made in China. Jesus, you guys want to end CCP? help the people in China? WELL SHIT, they are making better stuff than you guys are, I don't know who is better at this point, apparently I am in such a dystopia, one is shit on paper, and actually shit in reality, but producing amazing product. One is great on paper, shit in reality, and produce shit product. Fuck me, I need to go back to mental hospital, not to sort out my bi-polar, but sort out my tangled reality of WTF am I living in. LOL Seriously, why does DEI even matter? The goal is fucking great and I am onboard, but the execution is god awful please stop! I speak more freely on wechat than on a stupid western media/social network. We know exactly what we are talking about, and we can joke about shit shoot shit around and be blunt with each other, but on western media, even gaming chat? Jesus. help me please, I don't understand really. I probably quite often put some unhinged stuff here, but look, I am just providing my perspective with my background. now enjoy bashing me with your superior intelligence. YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING LONG I HOLD OUT NOT TO PLAY VALORANT , and also stopped playing league of legend cause of TENCENT? the company that was owend by CCP? Well FUCK man, I have no choice, I am a gamer first as a person, I am fucking putting my cash down to TECENT, NetEase, and the studio/company the have majority stock in such as GGG with POE. Games that are influenced by DEI? FUCKING NO. Can we have a discussion about this? I REALLY FUCKING HATE CCP. I do with a passion, they took away a shit load of real estate from my family. They were fucking robbers when they came in power, my fucking grand father was canceled and being publicly shamed by CCP and was injured and being sentenced for some stupid shit he said that was just a joke for fuck sake, because literally he just said there was too much water in the congee, anytime more people come, they don't add more rice ,but just add more water. And he was a fucking CCP war hero of his own, he put his fucking life in risk and running through bomb shell hole that are fresh, with comrades on their last breath to put stupid flag in one of the major western Chinese city. This is what he gets afterward, DUDE. It's terrible. but now ..... I am fucking lost guys. Jesus, you know how fucked up this is? I am fucking lost guys, get your shit together and can we get back to work on things actually matter? TLDR: guys, stop calling each others by label, I think we can find shit load of common ground on things actually matter, get to the fact, and forget about politics and party, they are engineered to make fucking people hate each other and fight. Are you okay? | ||
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