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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
December 30 2024 15:36 GMT
#721
Well, I guess if there's a silver lining at least we can use this to highlight the madness that the far-right instills in people with their propaganda. People are now comparing CCP crimes to Western DEI practices because they have insane idols such as Elon Musk and Donald Trump shepherding them. I don't blame people for falling for this large scale ideological grift. We can't escape the bombardment of misinformation and some people will inevitable have to fall prey to it.

It's like being surrounded 24/7 by cookies and sweets and all. Forget dieting in such an environment, you'll be lucky if you become only slightly overweight. Your discipline will eventually break.

"Think for yourself" or "do your research" turns into an impossible standard just as "stay healthy" or "maintain your diet" would. Misinformation-induced hypnosis in some individuals is guaranteed.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-30 19:25:25
December 30 2024 19:23 GMT
#722
DEI has been an idea forever, it just now includes race and sex. For example the American electoral college gives small states relatively large representation in general elections. The founding fathers of the United States were fearful of the tyranny of majority, and put into place a system that was inclusive.

With Citizens United, money is speech, and I believe the billionaire problem came out of that.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
KoveN-
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia504 Posts
December 31 2024 02:51 GMT
#723
On December 29 2024 20:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2024 08:27 KoveN- wrote:
The "far right" is rising and will continue to do so. You can all whine about it and ironically call others childish but there's absolutely nothing else you can do about it. We will be taking power in all western nations because you do and always did belong to a dying ideology built on lies and the truth always comes to light given enough time.


The irony of an ultra-conservative accusing others of having dying ideologies... lol. While it's somewhat terrifying that someone on the "far right" feels emboldened enough to make a public post, historically your side has a pretty bad track record. You're the cause of the occasional "few steps back" as the rest of us make progress, so enjoy the next four years of your swastikas and white hoods and red hats while you can, because thankfully in the zoomed-out grand scheme of things, you're a dying breed.


You've been saying this for how many decades now?

What's wrong with making a public post? Are you violent or something?
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2845 Posts
December 31 2024 03:49 GMT
#724
On December 31 2024 11:51 KoveN- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2024 20:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 29 2024 08:27 KoveN- wrote:
The "far right" is rising and will continue to do so. You can all whine about it and ironically call others childish but there's absolutely nothing else you can do about it. We will be taking power in all western nations because you do and always did belong to a dying ideology built on lies and the truth always comes to light given enough time.


The irony of an ultra-conservative accusing others of having dying ideologies... lol. While it's somewhat terrifying that someone on the "far right" feels emboldened enough to make a public post, historically your side has a pretty bad track record. You're the cause of the occasional "few steps back" as the rest of us make progress, so enjoy the next four years of your swastikas and white hoods and red hats while you can, because thankfully in the zoomed-out grand scheme of things, you're a dying breed.


You've been saying this for how many decades now?

What's wrong with making a public post? Are you violent or something?


"What's wrong" is equivalent to a communist (from your perspective, I'm assuming) feeling emboldened enough to publicly announce they're a communist, or a neonazi (from a leftist perspective) publicly announce they're a neonazi etc.

But sure yeah something about someone threatening you with violence, yup. Go off, queen.
KoveN-
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia504 Posts
December 31 2024 07:15 GMT
#725
On December 31 2024 12:49 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2024 11:51 KoveN- wrote:
On December 29 2024 20:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 29 2024 08:27 KoveN- wrote:
The "far right" is rising and will continue to do so. You can all whine about it and ironically call others childish but there's absolutely nothing else you can do about it. We will be taking power in all western nations because you do and always did belong to a dying ideology built on lies and the truth always comes to light given enough time.


The irony of an ultra-conservative accusing others of having dying ideologies... lol. While it's somewhat terrifying that someone on the "far right" feels emboldened enough to make a public post, historically your side has a pretty bad track record. You're the cause of the occasional "few steps back" as the rest of us make progress, so enjoy the next four years of your swastikas and white hoods and red hats while you can, because thankfully in the zoomed-out grand scheme of things, you're a dying breed.


You've been saying this for how many decades now?

What's wrong with making a public post? Are you violent or something?


"What's wrong" is equivalent to a communist (from your perspective, I'm assuming) feeling emboldened enough to publicly announce they're a communist, or a neonazi (from a leftist perspective) publicly announce they're a neonazi etc.

But sure yeah something about someone threatening you with violence, yup. Go off, queen.


Oh no! Not a c-c-communist! How terrifying! Do you people never get tired of projecting?
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2845 Posts
December 31 2024 08:11 GMT
#726
On December 31 2024 16:15 KoveN- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2024 12:49 Fleetfeet wrote:
On December 31 2024 11:51 KoveN- wrote:
On December 29 2024 20:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 29 2024 08:27 KoveN- wrote:
The "far right" is rising and will continue to do so. You can all whine about it and ironically call others childish but there's absolutely nothing else you can do about it. We will be taking power in all western nations because you do and always did belong to a dying ideology built on lies and the truth always comes to light given enough time.


The irony of an ultra-conservative accusing others of having dying ideologies... lol. While it's somewhat terrifying that someone on the "far right" feels emboldened enough to make a public post, historically your side has a pretty bad track record. You're the cause of the occasional "few steps back" as the rest of us make progress, so enjoy the next four years of your swastikas and white hoods and red hats while you can, because thankfully in the zoomed-out grand scheme of things, you're a dying breed.


You've been saying this for how many decades now?

What's wrong with making a public post? Are you violent or something?


"What's wrong" is equivalent to a communist (from your perspective, I'm assuming) feeling emboldened enough to publicly announce they're a communist, or a neonazi (from a leftist perspective) publicly announce they're a neonazi etc.

But sure yeah something about someone threatening you with violence, yup. Go off, queen.


Oh no! Not a c-c-communist! How terrifying! Do you people never get tired of projecting?


:Shrug: dunno what far right Australians are afraid of offhand. If you offer anything of actual substance instead of hiding behind imprecision I'm sure people will be happy to call you a moron in more direct ways.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44402 Posts
December 31 2024 08:30 GMT
#727
On December 31 2024 17:11 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2024 16:15 KoveN- wrote:
On December 31 2024 12:49 Fleetfeet wrote:
On December 31 2024 11:51 KoveN- wrote:
On December 29 2024 20:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 29 2024 08:27 KoveN- wrote:
The "far right" is rising and will continue to do so. You can all whine about it and ironically call others childish but there's absolutely nothing else you can do about it. We will be taking power in all western nations because you do and always did belong to a dying ideology built on lies and the truth always comes to light given enough time.


The irony of an ultra-conservative accusing others of having dying ideologies... lol. While it's somewhat terrifying that someone on the "far right" feels emboldened enough to make a public post, historically your side has a pretty bad track record. You're the cause of the occasional "few steps back" as the rest of us make progress, so enjoy the next four years of your swastikas and white hoods and red hats while you can, because thankfully in the zoomed-out grand scheme of things, you're a dying breed.


You've been saying this for how many decades now?

What's wrong with making a public post? Are you violent or something?


"What's wrong" is equivalent to a communist (from your perspective, I'm assuming) feeling emboldened enough to publicly announce they're a communist, or a neonazi (from a leftist perspective) publicly announce they're a neonazi etc.

But sure yeah something about someone threatening you with violence, yup. Go off, queen.


Oh no! Not a c-c-communist! How terrifying! Do you people never get tired of projecting?


:Shrug: dunno what far right Australians are afraid of offhand. If you offer anything of actual substance instead of hiding behind imprecision I'm sure people will be happy to call you a moron in more direct ways.

Aboriginal flags terrify them.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10979 Posts
December 31 2024 10:12 GMT
#728
The don't tread on me (snek) flag also makes more sense in Australia.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46629 Posts
December 31 2024 10:19 GMT
#729
On December 31 2024 11:51 KoveN- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2024 20:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 29 2024 08:27 KoveN- wrote:
The "far right" is rising and will continue to do so. You can all whine about it and ironically call others childish but there's absolutely nothing else you can do about it. We will be taking power in all western nations because you do and always did belong to a dying ideology built on lies and the truth always comes to light given enough time.


The irony of an ultra-conservative accusing others of having dying ideologies... lol. While it's somewhat terrifying that someone on the "far right" feels emboldened enough to make a public post, historically your side has a pretty bad track record. You're the cause of the occasional "few steps back" as the rest of us make progress, so enjoy the next four years of your swastikas and white hoods and red hats while you can, because thankfully in the zoomed-out grand scheme of things, you're a dying breed.


You've been saying this for how many decades now?

What's wrong with making a public post? Are you violent or something?


Not being baited by the projection, sorry. Have a wonderful, hopefully non-violent, day
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18011 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-31 11:36:23
December 31 2024 11:34 GMT
#730
Watching the "ideological debates" in this thread is sorta like watching Newman and Kramer play that big game of Risk on Seinfeld.
"two men competing for global domination who can barely manage their own lives", Jerry Seinfeld, January 19, 1995.

Regarding Elon,
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/elon-musk-calls-justin-trudeau-insufferable-tool-in-new-social-media-post-1.7142131

If Elon knew Trudeau well he'd attack his intellectual capacity directly. This is a weak smear by Musk. I wish he had dug deeper.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46629 Posts
December 31 2024 11:45 GMT
#731
On December 31 2024 20:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Regarding Elon,
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/elon-musk-calls-justin-trudeau-insufferable-tool-in-new-social-media-post-1.7142131

If Elon knew Trudeau well he'd attack his intellectual capacity directly. This is a weak smear by Musk. I wish he had dug deeper.


Why would anyone care if an easily-triggered baby like Elon Musk called them dumb?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18011 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-31 14:37:08
December 31 2024 14:25 GMT
#732
On December 31 2024 20:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2024 20:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Regarding Elon,
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/elon-musk-calls-justin-trudeau-insufferable-tool-in-new-social-media-post-1.7142131

If Elon knew Trudeau well he'd attack his intellectual capacity directly. This is a weak smear by Musk. I wish he had dug deeper.


Why would anyone care if an easily-triggered baby like Eloen Musk called them dumb?

As Piaget said: "labelling is disabling". You're obfuscating your ability to objectively analyze this by labelling Musk.

Thomas Mulcair analyzed it nicely in the embedded video in the article. Mulcair explains why Trudeau's comments were dumb.
Trudeau is not dumb compared to an average person, however, compared to previous PMs Trudeau is the dumbest. He might be on Kim Campbell's level.

Musk and Trump firing away at Trudeau weaken an already weak leader.
CBC very heavily favours Liberals.

The CBC had to make an entire article plus an embedded video out of an off handed tweet by Musk. That is some good trolling. Like I said though, he could've done better.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46629 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-31 15:20:12
December 31 2024 14:56 GMT
#733
On December 31 2024 23:25 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2024 20:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 31 2024 20:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Regarding Elon,
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/elon-musk-calls-justin-trudeau-insufferable-tool-in-new-social-media-post-1.7142131

If Elon knew Trudeau well he'd attack his intellectual capacity directly. This is a weak smear by Musk. I wish he had dug deeper.


Why would anyone care if an easily-triggered baby like Eloen Musk called them dumb?

As Piaget said: "labelling is disabling". You're obfuscating your ability to objectively analyze this by labelling Musk.

Thomas Mulcair analyzed it nicely in the embedded video in the article. Mulcair explains why Trudeau's comments were dumb.
Trudeau is not dumb compared to an average person, however, compared to previous PMs Trudeau is the dumbest. He might be on Kim Campbell's level.

Musk and Trump firing away at Trudeau weaken an already weak leader.
CBC very heavily favours Liberals.

The CBC had to make an entire article plus an embedded video out of an off handed tweet by Musk. That is some good trolling. Like I said though, he could've done better.


Your whole perspective was that Musk should label Trudeau as dumb, because that is supposed to offend Trudeau, so you're being hypocritical here. And if Musk or Trump is triggered by you, you know you're doing something right. And now you're walking it back by saying Trudeau isn't actually dumb anyway, so I don't know why you bothered with your original statement. Why not just wish that Musk would act like an adult, instead of wanting him to try to troll people?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland965 Posts
December 31 2024 15:40 GMT
#734
Newsrooms have entire departments dedicated to "Famous Person posted X on their social media page", it's just chaff.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12610 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-31 15:49:24
December 31 2024 15:48 GMT
#735
On January 01 2025 00:40 hexhaven wrote:
Newsrooms have entire departments dedicated to "Famous Person posted X on their social media page", it's just chaff.


Spare a thought for the poor guys in those departments by the way, mayhaps when they were growing up they had dreams of becoming journalists or something
No will to live, no wish to die
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27471 Posts
December 31 2024 15:56 GMT
#736
On December 31 2024 20:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Watching the "ideological debates" in this thread is sorta like watching Newman and Kramer play that big game of Risk on Seinfeld.
"two men competing for global domination who can barely manage their own lives", Jerry Seinfeld, January 19, 1995.

Regarding Elon,
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/elon-musk-calls-justin-trudeau-insufferable-tool-in-new-social-media-post-1.7142131

If Elon knew Trudeau well he'd attack his intellectual capacity directly. This is a weak smear by Musk. I wish he had dug deeper.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Musk talks more errant bollocks, at a higher volume than almost any other notable public figure on social media. He’s one of the most insufferable cunts on the entire planet, although with the silver lining that he’s exposing his own intellectual gaps for all to see.

Although this thread has definitely drifted hugely away from its ostensible purpose, so yeah 100% agreed there
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-31 16:17:50
December 31 2024 16:17 GMT
#737
I find it hilarious that, in response to Elon Musk being called a dumb, easily-triggered baby, the defense is "labeling is disabling", a phrase which refers to the harmful practice of labeling children as "problem child" or "troublemaker". Virtually admitting that Elon Musk is being an infantile adult.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46629 Posts
December 31 2024 17:05 GMT
#738
On January 01 2025 01:17 Magic Powers wrote:
I find it hilarious that, in response to Elon Musk being called a dumb, easily-triggered baby, the defense is "labeling is disabling", a phrase which refers to the harmful practice of labeling children as "problem child" or "troublemaker". Virtually admitting that Elon Musk is being an infantile adult.


Agreed. If JJR had made the claim that being on Elon Musk's bad side can be problematic, because of how much money and influence Elon Musk has, then I'd agree. Musk is pretty powerful, especially with his control of Twitter and his friendship with Trump. But instead of saying something like "Musk disliking Trudeau could be an issue for Trudeau", JJR wants Musk to throw juvenile insults at world leaders. Musk will surely do that anyway, because he often acts childish, but that should be viewed as embarrassing behavior by Musk.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6646 Posts
December 31 2024 17:11 GMT
#739
On January 01 2025 02:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2025 01:17 Magic Powers wrote:
I find it hilarious that, in response to Elon Musk being called a dumb, easily-triggered baby, the defense is "labeling is disabling", a phrase which refers to the harmful practice of labeling children as "problem child" or "troublemaker". Virtually admitting that Elon Musk is being an infantile adult.


Agreed. If JJR had made the claim that being on Elon Musk's bad side can be problematic, because of how much money and influence Elon Musk has, then I'd agree. Musk is pretty powerful, especially with his control of Twitter and his friendship with Trump. But instead of saying something like "Musk disliking Trudeau could be an issue for Trudeau", JJR wants Musk to throw juvenile insults at world leaders. Musk will surely do that anyway, because he often acts childish, but that should be viewed as embarrassing behavior by Musk.

This applies to anyone who talks about world leaders that way, right?

Some of us have a New Year's resolution to get started on.
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hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland965 Posts
December 31 2024 17:30 GMT
#740
On January 01 2025 00:48 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2025 00:40 hexhaven wrote:
Newsrooms have entire departments dedicated to "Famous Person posted X on their social media page", it's just chaff.


Spare a thought for the poor guys in those departments by the way, mayhaps when they were growing up they had dreams of becoming journalists or something


Oh I know, I have a bunch of journalist friends, and it's depressing to hear them talk about their industry and their jobs.
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