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On March 24 2024 06:27 KwarK wrote: US: ISIS is planning an attack Russia: There will be no attack *ISIS attacks* ISIS: We claim responsibility Ukraine: We didn’t do it Russia: How could gay Ukrainian NATO do this to us?
Russia had no major terror attacks in nearly a decade and has an all-time high relations with Muslim world, and now suddenly ISIS (which barely even exists these days) decides to strike in a very specific and convenient time for Ukraine when its defenses and morale is collapsing, incursion into Russia failed, not to mention it wasn't ISIS style execution at all, when captured they were shitting their pants and didn't want to die
They have their hands full in Ukraine so they let something like this slip through. Not that strange.
On March 24 2024 06:27 KwarK wrote: US: ISIS is planning an attack Russia: There will be no attack *ISIS attacks* ISIS: We claim responsibility Ukraine: We didn’t do it Russia: How could gay Ukrainian NATO do this to us?
Russia had no major terror attacks in nearly a decade and has an all-time high relations with Muslim world, and now suddenly ISIS (which barely even exists these days) decides to strike in a very specific and convenient time for Ukraine when its defenses and morale is collapsing, incursion into Russia failed, not to mention it wasn't ISIS style execution at all, when captured they were shitting their pants and didn't want to die
Russia has been warring with ISIS is Syria for over a decade.
On March 24 2024 00:10 sertas wrote: how does putin have well earned billions? His salary on paper is 136k usd per year.. somehow he afforded a super yacht worth 700 million dollar and billions of dollars in real estate, he must be very good at the stock market.
Ukraine strike another oil refinery so I hope they can hammer those refineries all year (and next year), make russia suffer. The US telling them to stop is still unconfirmed.
Putin will probably use this isis attack as a way to get the brainwashed zealots to accept maybe another wave of mobilization by blaming ukraine of course and the zealots will eat it up 100%, just wait for zeo to say its zelenskys/cia fault and then we have the confirmed kremlin propaganda direction.
Good thing they were caught in Bryansk before they could reached the Ukrainian border this morning. The one with his eye popped out is talking, the one that got his ear cut off and fed to him as the rest of them are unsurprisingly reciting what their handlers told them to now about shadowy figures hiring them for money... but it will all come out. The truth always comes out.
Even the dumbest dogs know how jihadi-wahabists operate, you don't leave the mass killings alive, you don't post from bot Telegram channels with years old templates, ISIS doesn't blur the faces of its 'proud' martyrs. None of the terrorists have even mentioned ISIS at any point. On the other hand whether it brings you peace or anxiety, everyone behind this attack is going to die a violent death eventually. Be it the dog that was let off its leash or its owner that should have put it down when he (or she) knew it was going out of control. Is that 'fair'? Who knows, as they say: you shouldn't have fucked around and found out
You're trying to put a bunch of cube shapes into the triangle hole. Looks like you were hoping it was Ukraine and that is what's clouding your judgement.
- ISIS claimed responsibility through Amaq, they did in the past falsley claim responsibility, but that's the exception rather than the rule - FSB claimed to have stopped a different ISIS plotted attack on synagogue at the beginning of the month - The US warned Russia of imminent ISIS-K attacks and warned US citizens in Russia to not go to large gatherings - So far Ukraine has targeted infrastructure or specific people inside Russia, rather than civilians - Mowing down a bunch of random concert goers has infinite cost potential for Ukraine and zero benefit - Crossing from Russia to Ukraine isn't exactly like going from Belgium to Netherlands these days, there's no evidence the two detained people in Bryansk were going to Ukraine rather than Belarus - Escaping to Ukraine (however unlikely) wouldn't be evidence of Ukraine's involvement, just as how escaping to Belarus wouldn't imply Belarus has anything to do with it - Tortured people will say whatever you want them to say, your suggestion that more torture = closer to truth is incredibly naive
So what's the alternative here? That Ukraine and the US hired a bunch of Tajiks to kill a few hundred Russian civilians in order to... what?
Please stop shitposting on serious issues like this.
Early in the war Ukrainian officials openly praised ISIS and filmed a propaganda vid where Ukrainian woman slit Russian POW's throat using a sickle, mass shooting of civilians like that is a form of collective punishment for Russian society from Ukraine/West. Brainwashed Muslims were used for the job because it's easy to shift the blame on ISIS and maybe it'd ignite ethnic strife inside Russia. + Show Spoiler +
Arestovych holds no office, he's in exile. Those snippets are too short for me to even be able to tell what point he was trying to make there. But I've seen enough contradictory and silly statements from him in the past, it's not relevant.
On March 24 2024 07:03 Hvvacha wrote: Russia had no major terror attacks in nearly a decade
No successful ones you mean. During Trump's presidency, Putin thanked him twice for US intelligence helping Russia stop major terrorist plots. There's far more plots than successful attacks, and a decade isn't that long of a time.
On March 24 2024 07:03 Hvvacha wrote: and has an all-time high relations with Muslim world, and now suddenly ISIS (which barely even exists these days) decides to strike
The Russian embassy in Afghanistan was bombed a year ago by the same faction of ISIS, which has also done attacks in Iran. The "Muslim world" isn't united. ISIS has a bone to pick with Russia over their backing of Assad.
On March 24 2024 07:03 Hvvacha wrote: very specific and convenient time for Ukraine when its defenses and morale is collapsing
Not that specific, we've heard that for a year now. Regardless, Ukraine being linked, even spuriously, with a terrorist attack that will no doubt unify Russians doesn't help them at all, it makes things worse.
On March 24 2024 07:03 Hvvacha wrote: not to mention it wasn't ISIS style execution at all, when captured they were shitting their pants and didn't want to die
It is stupid that they let themselves be captured and tortured instead of killing themselves, but your argument can't be as flimsy as "the terrorists weren't rational enough".
If you want a more believable conspiracy theory I’ve read a few people pointing out this could be the FSB. First they have done it before to get the public support for Chechnya (bombed their own citizens). Next some how all the gunman were able to initially escape and then magically get caught near the Ukraine border. Next they need an additional 200k soldiers to keep up their meatwaves to continue their progress in Ukraine and it would be wildly unpopular to mobilize more citizens, especially if they now need to hit the major cities. A brutal attack by “Ukrainian terrorists” makes it more palatable.
To be clear ISIS makes the most sense by like 100x but Russia doing it for the above reasons makes 100x more sense than Ukraine who unlike Russia need to follow the rules to keep support. Be interesting to see how soon they mobilize.
I don't think the resident propagandists accept the narrative of the bombings in 1999, where Putin had his own citizens killed by the FSB to kickstart his popularity.
One thing: Could we at least spoiler torture videos like the one on the last page. Thanks.
On March 24 2024 00:10 sertas wrote: how does putin have well earned billions? His salary on paper is 136k usd per year.. somehow he afforded a super yacht worth 700 million dollar and billions of dollars in real estate, he must be very good at the stock market.
Ukraine strike another oil refinery so I hope they can hammer those refineries all year (and next year), make russia suffer. The US telling them to stop is still unconfirmed.
Putin will probably use this isis attack as a way to get the brainwashed zealots to accept maybe another wave of mobilization by blaming ukraine of course and the zealots will eat it up 100%, just wait for zeo to say its zelenskys/cia fault and then we have the confirmed kremlin propaganda direction.
Good thing they were caught in Bryansk before they could reached the Ukrainian border this morning. The one with his eye popped out is talking, the one that got his ear cut off and fed to him as the rest of them are unsurprisingly reciting what their handlers told them to now about shadowy figures hiring them for money... but it will all come out. The truth always comes out.
Even the dumbest dogs know how jihadi-wahabists operate, you don't leave the mass killings alive, you don't post from bot Telegram channels with years old templates, ISIS doesn't blur the faces of its 'proud' martyrs. None of the terrorists have even mentioned ISIS at any point. On the other hand whether it brings you peace or anxiety, everyone behind this attack is going to die a violent death eventually. Be it the dog that was let off its leash or its owner that should have put it down when he (or she) knew it was going out of control. Is that 'fair'? Who knows, as they say: you shouldn't have fucked around and found out
You're just quoting FSB:
"Interfax quoted the FSB security service as saying the four suspected gunmen had been arrested while heading to the Ukrainian border"
Also the fsb story is ridicolous. So they want us to belivie that ukraine and russia arent at war and have open borders?
Like the plan was to drive the van to the frontline then sneak past russian trenches and fortifications and then just walk to ukrainian troops? All under drones scouting on both sides? To be fair maybe i'm missing something obvious.
Not at all unexpected they will try to use this as fuel for the ukraine war, zeo eats it up in a second and i think like 20% of domestic russians do too.
What van are you talking about? The terrorists used a Renault Symbol with Russian plates, that van with BY plates was debunked half an hour after it came up two days ago
I'm sure if you are aware that the RUS-UKR border is not one long line of trenches exactly on the border? It not a long line of people in a line at arms length from each other, you do know that right? You do know how long the border is and how many people are there right? Of course you don't. In any case the Latvia based NGO Meduza geolocated the arrest location
There are a lot of anti-Russian criminal gangs operating in the area that could have coordinated safe passage and pick up points for the terrorists, they arn't really under trhe control of Kiev but then again its up to Kiev to control them.
On March 24 2024 06:27 KwarK wrote: US: ISIS is planning an attack Russia: There will be no attack *ISIS attacks* ISIS: We claim responsibility Ukraine: We didn’t do it Russia: How could gay Ukrainian NATO do this to us?
Russia had no major terror attacks in nearly a decade and has an all-time high relations with Muslim world, and now suddenly ISIS (which barely even exists these days) decides to strike in a very specific and convenient time for Ukraine when its defenses and morale is collapsing, incursion into Russia failed, not to mention it wasn't ISIS style execution at all, when captured they were shitting their pants and didn't want to die
Keep in mind that you are talking with people that vehemently denied that UKR intelligence services smuggled a multi-ton bomb on a truck through multiple EU countries and suicide bombed the Crimean bridge (albeit without the knowledge of the poor driver) killing multiple civilians. Even when the organizers - state officials, came out months later and openly gloated about how they VBIED-ed the bridge, showed pictures and went into 'this is how we did it' details they still felt the need to come to this thread and post denials.
The same people that shrug their shoulders almost two years after the Nordstream attacks. The same people that watch videos of Israeli planes taking off, dropping bombs on areas where video of bombed civilians are pilled up on top of each other and say 'a thorough multi-month investigation investigation needs to take place before we can even begin to point a finger'.
Those guys know who committed this terrorist act while it was still ongoing. Yeah, those guys.
There are a lot of anti-Russian criminal gangs operating in the area that could have coordinated safe passage and pick up points for the terrorists, they arn't really under trhe control of Kiev but then again its up to Kiev to control them.
Something something gangs. Come'on, you comedian. Kiev has now more important things to do, thanks mostly to your idols who hang the carpets on the walls, than fighting with gangs.
On March 24 2024 17:23 zeo wrote:
Keep in mind that you are talking with people that vehemently denied that UKR intelligence services smuggled a multi-ton bomb on a truck through multiple EU countries and suicide bombed the Crimean bridge (albeit without the knowledge of the poor driver) killing multiple civilians. Even when the organizers - state officials, came out months later and openly gloated about how they VBIED-ed the bridge, showed pictures and went into 'this is how we did it' details they still felt the need to come to this thread and post denials.
The same people that shrug their shoulders almost two years after the Nordstream attacks. The same people that watch videos of Israeli planes taking off, dropping bombs on areas where video of bombed civilians are pilled up on top of each other and say 'a thorough multi-month investigation investigation needs to take place before we can even begin to point a finger'.
Those guys know who committed this terrorist act while it was still ongoing. Yeah, those guys.
Nice whataboutism. Shame that's completely irrelevant. Those two cases are not even remotely similar. Whatever you believe, Kerch bridge is obviously military target and Ukrainians had all reasons to bomb it. Unlike this Crocus whatever.
On March 24 2024 17:23 zeo wrote: Keep in mind that you are talking with people that vehemently denied that UKR intelligence services smuggled a multi-ton bomb on a truck through multiple EU countries and suicide bombed the Crimean bridge (albeit without the knowledge of the poor driver) killing multiple civilians. Even when the organizers - state officials, came out months later and openly gloated about how they VBIED-ed the bridge, showed pictures and went into 'this is how we did it' details they still felt the need to come to this thread and post denials.
The same people that shrug their shoulders almost two years after the Nordstream attacks. The same people that watch videos of Israeli planes taking off, dropping bombs on areas where video of bombed civilians are pilled up on top of each other and say 'a thorough multi-month investigation investigation needs to take place before we can even begin to point a finger'.
Those guys know who committed this terrorist act while it was still ongoing. Yeah, those guys.
Yeah, one could think there are people actively rooting against Putins Russia and disbelieving any information coming out of it.
Indeed shocking, how NATO and Ukrainian intelligence services might be involved in attacks on their current adversary. In that war that dictator started, the one we spend billions upon billions of military and civil aid on.
Edit: I'd also like to compliment the Russian security services for (again) completing the investigation so fast. There seems to be a 24h rule unless it's concerning the murders of critical journalists and politicians.
This resonates with what my brother told me after being posted in Burkina Faso a few times over the last decade to help train their forces. He left the army, thoroughly disillusioned with how European foreign policy and European military missions worked at opposing goals.
It doesn't have anything to do with the Russia-Ukraine conflict, but for those incredulous of why ISIS would want to strike at Russia, it sheds a bit of light on that. In addition, obviously to Russia supporting both Iran and Assad's Syria, two more sworn enemies of ISIS.
On March 24 2024 00:10 sertas wrote: how does putin have well earned billions? His salary on paper is 136k usd per year.. somehow he afforded a super yacht worth 700 million dollar and billions of dollars in real estate, he must be very good at the stock market.
Ukraine strike another oil refinery so I hope they can hammer those refineries all year (and next year), make russia suffer. The US telling them to stop is still unconfirmed.
Putin will probably use this isis attack as a way to get the brainwashed zealots to accept maybe another wave of mobilization by blaming ukraine of course and the zealots will eat it up 100%, just wait for zeo to say its zelenskys/cia fault and then we have the confirmed kremlin propaganda direction.
Good thing they were caught in Bryansk before they could reached the Ukrainian border this morning. The one with his eye popped out is talking, the one that got his ear cut off and fed to him as the rest of them are unsurprisingly reciting what their handlers told them to now about shadowy figures hiring them for money... but it will all come out. The truth always comes out.
Even the dumbest dogs know how jihadi-wahabists operate, you don't leave the mass killings alive, you don't post from bot Telegram channels with years old templates, ISIS doesn't blur the faces of its 'proud' martyrs. None of the terrorists have even mentioned ISIS at any point. On the other hand whether it brings you peace or anxiety, everyone behind this attack is going to die a violent death eventually. Be it the dog that was let off its leash or its owner that should have put it down when he (or she) knew it was going out of control. Is that 'fair'? Who knows, as they say: you shouldn't have fucked around and found out
You're just quoting FSB:
"Interfax quoted the FSB security service as saying the four suspected gunmen had been arrested while heading to the Ukrainian border"
Also the fsb story is ridicolous. So they want us to belivie that ukraine and russia arent at war and have open borders?
Like the plan was to drive the van to the frontline then sneak past russian trenches and fortifications and then just walk to ukrainian troops? All under drones scouting on both sides? To be fair maybe i'm missing something obvious.
Not at all unexpected they will try to use this as fuel for the ukraine war, zeo eats it up in a second and i think like 20% of domestic russians do too.
What van are you talking about? The terrorists used a Renault Symbol with Russian plates, that van with BY plates was debunked half an hour after it came up two days ago
I'm sure if you are aware that the RUS-UKR border is not one long line of trenches exactly on the border? It not a long line of people in a line at arms length from each other, you do know that right? You do know how long the border is and how many people are there right? Of course you don't. In any case the Latvia based NGO Meduza geolocated the arrest location
There are a lot of anti-Russian criminal gangs operating in the area that could have coordinated safe passage and pick up points for the terrorists, they arn't really under trhe control of Kiev but then again its up to Kiev to control them.
On March 24 2024 06:27 KwarK wrote: US: ISIS is planning an attack Russia: There will be no attack *ISIS attacks* ISIS: We claim responsibility Ukraine: We didn’t do it Russia: How could gay Ukrainian NATO do this to us?
Russia had no major terror attacks in nearly a decade and has an all-time high relations with Muslim world, and now suddenly ISIS (which barely even exists these days) decides to strike in a very specific and convenient time for Ukraine when its defenses and morale is collapsing, incursion into Russia failed, not to mention it wasn't ISIS style execution at all, when captured they were shitting their pants and didn't want to die
Keep in mind that you are talking with people that vehemently denied that UKR intelligence services smuggled a multi-ton bomb on a truck through multiple EU countries and suicide bombed the Crimean bridge (albeit without the knowledge of the poor driver) killing multiple civilians. Even when the organizers - state officials, came out months later and openly gloated about how they VBIED-ed the bridge, showed pictures and went into 'this is how we did it' details they still felt the need to come to this thread and post denials.
The same people that shrug their shoulders almost two years after the Nordstream attacks. The same people that watch videos of Israeli planes taking off, dropping bombs on areas where video of bombed civilians are pilled up on top of each other and say 'a thorough multi-month investigation investigation needs to take place before we can even begin to point a finger'.
Those guys know who committed this terrorist act while it was still ongoing. Yeah, those guys.
You can write 10k words or more but the fact will still be that isis did this attack and if you belivie anything else you're completely delusional
On the previous topic on Russian oil: This is the very predictable results (some would even say "the goal of") of the new sanctions. They are going to be struggling a lot more selling it, which will increase oil prices globally. So the story about "US begs Ukraine to stop attacking Russian oil refineries because of global oil prices" completely contradicts US actual actions, showing yet again that what Zeo is peddling is mostly fairy tales
On March 24 2024 16:09 r00ty wrote: I don't think the resident propagandists accept the narrative of the bombings in 1999, where Putin had his own citizens killed by the FSB to kickstart his popularity.
One thing: Could we at least spoiler torture videos like the one on the last page. Thanks.
Probably not, but I mean why would Ukrainians wait until after the election? Before would make a lot more sense given how much Putin claims he is about security.
ISIS putting out the video makes it pretty much a slam dunk, no way captured Ukrainians could send it out. I guess the FSB could have given it to them, if someone is looking for a conspiracy.
France is diverting money and resources away from Africa because of the threat to its post colonial influence in Africa?
If they want to draw Russian resources away from Africa they need to put more pressure on Russia in Ukraine. To do that they need to drive more NATO resource into Ukraine, so Ukraine can pressure Russia more. And they can't get NATO to commit more without taking the lead on that themselves.
So yes France might be diverting resources away from Africa to force Russia to divert a multitude more away.
On March 24 2024 00:10 sertas wrote: how does putin have well earned billions? His salary on paper is 136k usd per year.. somehow he afforded a super yacht worth 700 million dollar and billions of dollars in real estate, he must be very good at the stock market.
Ukraine strike another oil refinery so I hope they can hammer those refineries all year (and next year), make russia suffer. The US telling them to stop is still unconfirmed.
Putin will probably use this isis attack as a way to get the brainwashed zealots to accept maybe another wave of mobilization by blaming ukraine of course and the zealots will eat it up 100%, just wait for zeo to say its zelenskys/cia fault and then we have the confirmed kremlin propaganda direction.
Good thing they were caught in Bryansk before they could reached the Ukrainian border this morning. The one with his eye popped out is talking, the one that got his ear cut off and fed to him as the rest of them are unsurprisingly reciting what their handlers told them to now about shadowy figures hiring them for money... but it will all come out. The truth always comes out.
Even the dumbest dogs know how jihadi-wahabists operate, you don't leave the mass killings alive, you don't post from bot Telegram channels with years old templates, ISIS doesn't blur the faces of its 'proud' martyrs. None of the terrorists have even mentioned ISIS at any point. On the other hand whether it brings you peace or anxiety, everyone behind this attack is going to die a violent death eventually. Be it the dog that was let off its leash or its owner that should have put it down when he (or she) knew it was going out of control. Is that 'fair'? Who knows, as they say: you shouldn't have fucked around and found out
You're just quoting FSB:
"Interfax quoted the FSB security service as saying the four suspected gunmen had been arrested while heading to the Ukrainian border"
Also the fsb story is ridicolous. So they want us to belivie that ukraine and russia arent at war and have open borders?
Like the plan was to drive the van to the frontline then sneak past russian trenches and fortifications and then just walk to ukrainian troops? All under drones scouting on both sides? To be fair maybe i'm missing something obvious.
Not at all unexpected they will try to use this as fuel for the ukraine war, zeo eats it up in a second and i think like 20% of domestic russians do too.
What van are you talking about? The terrorists used a Renault Symbol with Russian plates, that van with BY plates was debunked half an hour after it came up two days ago
I'm sure if you are aware that the RUS-UKR border is not one long line of trenches exactly on the border? It not a long line of people in a line at arms length from each other, you do know that right? You do know how long the border is and how many people are there right? Of course you don't. In any case the Latvia based NGO Meduza geolocated the arrest location
There are a lot of anti-Russian criminal gangs operating in the area that could have coordinated safe passage and pick up points for the terrorists, they arn't really under trhe control of Kiev but then again its up to Kiev to control them.
On March 24 2024 06:27 KwarK wrote: US: ISIS is planning an attack Russia: There will be no attack *ISIS attacks* ISIS: We claim responsibility Ukraine: We didn’t do it Russia: How could gay Ukrainian NATO do this to us?
Russia had no major terror attacks in nearly a decade and has an all-time high relations with Muslim world, and now suddenly ISIS (which barely even exists these days) decides to strike in a very specific and convenient time for Ukraine when its defenses and morale is collapsing, incursion into Russia failed, not to mention it wasn't ISIS style execution at all, when captured they were shitting their pants and didn't want to die
Keep in mind that you are talking with people that vehemently denied that UKR intelligence services smuggled a multi-ton bomb on a truck through multiple EU countries and suicide bombed the Crimean bridge (albeit without the knowledge of the poor driver) killing multiple civilians. Even when the organizers - state officials, came out months later and openly gloated about how they VBIED-ed the bridge, showed pictures and went into 'this is how we did it' details they still felt the need to come to this thread and post denials.
The same people that shrug their shoulders almost two years after the Nordstream attacks. The same people that watch videos of Israeli planes taking off, dropping bombs on areas where video of bombed civilians are pilled up on top of each other and say 'a thorough multi-month investigation investigation needs to take place before we can even begin to point a finger'.
Those guys know who committed this terrorist act while it was still ongoing. Yeah, those guys.
The problem with this dumb shit is that it never was 'could Ukraine have actually done this thing and ISIS erroneously claimed credit?' because the answer to that is 99.99% no. It's 'What dumb shit is Russia gonna come up with to spin this as a Ukranian op (And subsequently zeo will find and parrot)'
On March 24 2024 00:10 sertas wrote: how does putin have well earned billions? His salary on paper is 136k usd per year.. somehow he afforded a super yacht worth 700 million dollar and billions of dollars in real estate, he must be very good at the stock market.
Ukraine strike another oil refinery so I hope they can hammer those refineries all year (and next year), make russia suffer. The US telling them to stop is still unconfirmed.
Putin will probably use this isis attack as a way to get the brainwashed zealots to accept maybe another wave of mobilization by blaming ukraine of course and the zealots will eat it up 100%, just wait for zeo to say its zelenskys/cia fault and then we have the confirmed kremlin propaganda direction.
Good thing they were caught in Bryansk before they could reached the Ukrainian border this morning. The one with his eye popped out is talking, the one that got his ear cut off and fed to him as the rest of them are unsurprisingly reciting what their handlers told them to now about shadowy figures hiring them for money... but it will all come out. The truth always comes out.
Even the dumbest dogs know how jihadi-wahabists operate, you don't leave the mass killings alive, you don't post from bot Telegram channels with years old templates, ISIS doesn't blur the faces of its 'proud' martyrs. None of the terrorists have even mentioned ISIS at any point. On the other hand whether it brings you peace or anxiety, everyone behind this attack is going to die a violent death eventually. Be it the dog that was let off its leash or its owner that should have put it down when he (or she) knew it was going out of control. Is that 'fair'? Who knows, as they say: you shouldn't have fucked around and found out
You're just quoting FSB:
"Interfax quoted the FSB security service as saying the four suspected gunmen had been arrested while heading to the Ukrainian border"
Also the fsb story is ridicolous. So they want us to belivie that ukraine and russia arent at war and have open borders?
Like the plan was to drive the van to the frontline then sneak past russian trenches and fortifications and then just walk to ukrainian troops? All under drones scouting on both sides? To be fair maybe i'm missing something obvious.
Not at all unexpected they will try to use this as fuel for the ukraine war, zeo eats it up in a second and i think like 20% of domestic russians do too.
What van are you talking about? The terrorists used a Renault Symbol with Russian plates, that van with BY plates was debunked half an hour after it came up two days ago
I'm sure if you are aware that the RUS-UKR border is not one long line of trenches exactly on the border? It not a long line of people in a line at arms length from each other, you do know that right? You do know how long the border is and how many people are there right? Of course you don't. In any case the Latvia based NGO Meduza geolocated the arrest location
There are a lot of anti-Russian criminal gangs operating in the area that could have coordinated safe passage and pick up points for the terrorists, they arn't really under trhe control of Kiev but then again its up to Kiev to control them.
On March 24 2024 07:03 Hvvacha wrote:
On March 24 2024 06:27 KwarK wrote: US: ISIS is planning an attack Russia: There will be no attack *ISIS attacks* ISIS: We claim responsibility Ukraine: We didn’t do it Russia: How could gay Ukrainian NATO do this to us?
Russia had no major terror attacks in nearly a decade and has an all-time high relations with Muslim world, and now suddenly ISIS (which barely even exists these days) decides to strike in a very specific and convenient time for Ukraine when its defenses and morale is collapsing, incursion into Russia failed, not to mention it wasn't ISIS style execution at all, when captured they were shitting their pants and didn't want to die
Keep in mind that you are talking with people that vehemently denied that UKR intelligence services smuggled a multi-ton bomb on a truck through multiple EU countries and suicide bombed the Crimean bridge (albeit without the knowledge of the poor driver) killing multiple civilians. Even when the organizers - state officials, came out months later and openly gloated about how they VBIED-ed the bridge, showed pictures and went into 'this is how we did it' details they still felt the need to come to this thread and post denials.
The same people that shrug their shoulders almost two years after the Nordstream attacks. The same people that watch videos of Israeli planes taking off, dropping bombs on areas where video of bombed civilians are pilled up on top of each other and say 'a thorough multi-month investigation investigation needs to take place before we can even begin to point a finger'.
Those guys know who committed this terrorist act while it was still ongoing. Yeah, those guys.
The problem with this dumb shit is that it never was 'could Ukraine have actually done this thing and ISIS erroneously claimed credit?' because the answer to that is 99.99% no. It's 'What dumb shit is Russia gonna come up with to spin this as a Ukranian op (And subsequently zeo will find and parrot)'
The Russian state being so corrupt that random gangs have such control over the front that they can operate with impunity to move people back and forth isn't the excuse they think it will be.
If it was that easy to move operatives in and out of Russia wouldn't they be using that to move commandos to do insane amounts of sabatoge? All of the shit they offer people is so dumb and would take a serious person just a second to figure out if they had critical thinking skills oh wait nvm.
France is diverting money and resources away from Africa because of the threat to its post colonial influence in Africa?
(1) France has enough resources and troops to keep their few thousand troops still in Africa stationed there and ALSO push for more direct involvement in Ukraine. (2) The point the video made wasn't really that the French had a choice on whether they kept troops in Mali or Niger. The coups happened and the new governments established themselves. Then told the French troops to fuck off. The French aren't voluntarily pulling out of the Sahel, they're being forced to.
France is diverting money and resources away from Africa because of the threat to its post colonial influence in Africa?
(1) France has enough resources and troops to keep their few thousand troops still in Africa stationed there and ALSO push for more direct involvement in Ukraine. (2) The point the video made wasn't really that the French had a choice on whether they kept troops in Mali or Niger. The coups happened and the new governments established themselves. Then told the French troops to fuck off. The French aren't voluntarily pulling out of the Sahel, they're being forced to.
And add the they told them to fuck off at the same time as hundreds of Wagner troops arrived. So France is slowly understanding that they can't be the stabilising force in Africa, and will have hard time to protect economical interest.
Of course, France can have the weight to change the balance of the conflict, Any modern army in Europe could. The price is just too high. Might as well just Nuke russia and be done with the shit world they want to create. May the cockroach win.