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On November 06 2020 11:22 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2020 11:21 Toadesstern wrote:On November 06 2020 11:17 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 06 2020 11:15 IyMoon wrote:
GA is going to flip in the next three hours. Mark it boys, election over in 3 hours Election has been over lol. PA is so far above the line Biden needs to hold. But it will be so funny to see Republican heads explode when Georgia goes blue. COME ON GEORGIA ILL DRINK PEACH TEA FOR YOU i think the fear is that some of these estimates of what is left to count might be incorrect due to people misrepresenting or misunderstanding some data. If PA actually has 100k or 200k less votes to count than we think it becomes super scary with AZ and GA being what they are right now. It's only over if you have 100% trust in PA actually being right, and people reading (and thus reporting) correctly about how much they still have to count... which i can understand. There was some tweet on 538 yesterday when someone said the miscalculated PA outstanding votes by 150k that then an hour later got corrected and they never were wrong in the first place iirc? but shit is close I feel like even with the vote being less than expected (which they corrected so I think it's back to normal levels), Biden should still have a comfortable path to victory there.
The Philly vote count has to be totally off (as in like half of what people are operating on) for Trump to have a chance to hold PA. And even then I'm not sure he's favored, the early vote for Biden in PA has been incredible basically everywhere.
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Just call PA tonight and be done with this. I can't handle it anymore.
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I think that tells you all you need to know (and its across the spectrum). Damn I bet Weiner wishing he had gotten away with it for a few more years. Shucks.
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On November 06 2020 11:17 Wegandi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2020 11:03 WombaT wrote:On November 06 2020 10:45 Wegandi wrote:On November 06 2020 10:40 WombaT wrote:On November 06 2020 10:31 Wegandi wrote:On November 06 2020 10:24 WombaT wrote:On November 06 2020 10:05 Wegandi wrote:
Whatever I reiterate my point that democrats wailing about GOP not compromising are themselves not willing to compromise. The political tension in this country is high and people are drifting apart. This isnt some unique thing to the GOP. Shit rings hollow just like Graham re: ACB and Merrick Garland. Why would you compromise with the GOP and what on, what are you getting out of that arrangement? The President can’t even tucking concede an election like a man. After 4 years of well, we know what. If your strategy is rampant obstructionism and we’re at this point we are today, either rebuild the shambles of a party to a point where mutual compromise is not just pragmatic, but in the interests of the populace at large. Or don’t and continue down the current path and we’ll see where that goes. Inb4 the Dems are partisan too, well no shit. Cory Booker and Rand Paul re: criminal justice? Maybe you get dems OK with tax cuts and lower tax rates for some environmental thing or w/e? But thats the thing neither side will ever allow a budge on any position. Id happily sign off on axing oil subsidies to lower marginal income rates of all brackets by 25%. Booker and Paul are not exactly in line with the GOP on those issues. I’d consider them as borderline independents in the inverse sense Bernie is an Independent who is in the Democrat camp. The GOP rank and file and associated media propagandists? Even in your hypothetical it’s a trade for something that should (IMO) obviously be done vs the Dems kneecapping their ability to fund their wider programs, why would they go for it? The ideal is in hypothetical land Rand Paul and Cory Booker slide across the aisle on this one issue which they’re clearly in alignment on, and go back to doing battle on fiscal policy. And the alternative in some other issue. You have to give to get. Ok so youre not willing to compromise on tax cuts. What about regulations? What are you willing to compromise with? The point of compromise is neither side is entirely happy. You willing to expand gun rights? Which is why the narrative that GOP are obstructionists and will never compromise, etc. is so stupid. Neither side is. Its purity or youre thrown to the wolves. The discord and disunity in the country is to be blamed on everyone not just the GOP. Tax cuts for universal health care? I wasn’t quibbling with the idea of compromise, merely your example as a rather uneven trade was all. Sure everyone is to blame, just not everyone is equally to blame. Fair enough. Universal Health care eh....thats gonna cost big. Eliminate the income tax. Gonna have to pay for it with tariffs and capital gains taxes lol.
Hey we’re getting somewhere.
I’m not sure how we get out of the current situation, even in the U.K. with a (relatively) rare counter example there’s a lot more crossing of the aisles than we see in the US.
As to why it’s strange because in theory the US has a lot of checks and balances that should enable more not less divergence from the party line.
I suppose the fundage needed to run, especially at a Senate level is considerably more, so you’re kind of more dependent on toeing the party line?
I can’t remember the exact stat but it was something akin to decades of every single U.K. election including local ones and European ones didn’t even make up a singular Presidential campaign in terms of spending
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On November 06 2020 11:10 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2020 11:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:On November 06 2020 11:06 FlaShFTW wrote:
Arizona dump:
Biden +32k
Trump +44k
Trump gained 57.8%, not sure if this is above or below the line, but basically it's gonna turn into another Georgia race. Expect this to reach recount territory. It most likely won't be a recount. Arizona only allows a recount if the final tally is within .01%, and they don't allow requests for a recount. Ah ok interesting. Then no recount regardless. https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.htmlIf this guy's info is right, then Biden is on pace to flip Georgia. (Also peep the 1337 gain kekw)
lol, AZ is breaking Biden 43.0% / 57.0% Trump, Trump needs 57.32% according to that guy.
Somewhere in a dark room in Fox News headquarters you can hear a guy who's had way too much coffee over the last 10 hours, eye fixated on multiple screens in anticipation and a little bit of fear, screaming "TOLD YA"
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Alaska is a weird, weird state.
It has elected, by far, the furthest left senator the US has ever had from a major party (Mike Gravel, who is probably left of Sanders and should be remembered very fondly for releasing the pentagon papers), in addition to being an R leaning state.
People don't really like calling it early as it has a propensity for unusual voting patterns (somewhat like NH).
Remember, this is where a person whose last name was "Murkowski" won an election where she to be a write in, spelled correctly, against her own party's nominee.
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On November 06 2020 11:24 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Just call PA tonight and be done with this. I can't handle it anymore.
Ok here you go:
TEAMLIQUID.NET ELECTION COVERAGE TEAM HAS CALLED PENNSYLVANIA FOR VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN WILL CAPTURE ITS 20 ELECTORAL VOTES AND HE NOW HAS SURPASSED THE NECESSARY 270 ELECTORAL VOTES WITH 279, MAKING JOE BIDEN THE PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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On November 06 2020 11:27 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2020 11:24 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Just call PA tonight and be done with this. I can't handle it anymore. Ok here you go: TEAMLIQUID.NET ELECTION COVERAGE TEAM HAS CALLED PENNSYLVANIA FOR VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN WILL CAPTURE ITS 20 ELECTORAL VOTES AND HE NOW HAS SURPASSED THE NECESSARY 270 ELECTORAL VOTES WITH 273, MAKING JOE BIDEN THE PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Hmm. I really had confidence in the TL.net coverage team, but not calling Nevada?
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On November 06 2020 11:19 Husyelt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2020 10:55 WombaT wrote:On November 06 2020 10:49 Husyelt wrote:On November 06 2020 10:42 WombaT wrote:
Why in 2020 is it acceptable for adults in positions of wealth and power to all caps like a child?
Eric Trump should be shot out of a cannon into a son for both the message of that email and the manner it was articulated. Focus group research and buzz words must be in CAPS. As much as I agree why aren’t you hard at work on your latest masterpiece? You are my first groupie, and while I am blushing right now, I must confess the new video is taking some time. Perhaps next week.
Terrifying to think I have exposed my visage to you via YouTube comment thumbnails, a privilege alas I haven’t extended to any other TLers!
Look forward to your next one, incidentally what do you use to edit your videos/sound?
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On November 06 2020 11:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2020 11:27 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 06 2020 11:24 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Just call PA tonight and be done with this. I can't handle it anymore. Ok here you go: TEAMLIQUID.NET ELECTION COVERAGE TEAM HAS CALLED PENNSYLVANIA FOR VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN WILL CAPTURE ITS 20 ELECTORAL VOTES AND HE NOW HAS SURPASSED THE NECESSARY 270 ELECTORAL VOTES WITH 273, MAKING JOE BIDEN THE PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Hmm. I really had confidence in the TL.net coverage team, but not calling Nevada?
woah woah woah go back like 50 pages when I called Nevada a long time ago. But fine I edited the electoral vote tally for you happy?
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On November 06 2020 11:29 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2020 11:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:On November 06 2020 11:27 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 06 2020 11:24 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Just call PA tonight and be done with this. I can't handle it anymore. Ok here you go: TEAMLIQUID.NET ELECTION COVERAGE TEAM HAS CALLED PENNSYLVANIA FOR VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN WILL CAPTURE ITS 20 ELECTORAL VOTES AND HE NOW HAS SURPASSED THE NECESSARY 270 ELECTORAL VOTES WITH 273, MAKING JOE BIDEN THE PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Hmm. I really had confidence in the TL.net coverage team, but not calling Nevada? woah woah woah go back like 50 pages when I called Nevada a long time ago. But fine I edited the electoral vote tally for you happy?
Extremely Confidence restored.
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Damn, what a shitty tabloid level of journalism.
I don't know, as unorganized as they sounded, they sounded... human? I don't see a big issue with this.
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On November 06 2020 11:27 Nevuk wrote:
Alaska is a weird, weird state.
It has elected, by far, the furthest left senator the US has ever had from a major party (Mike Gravel, who is probably left of Sanders and should be remembered very fondly for releasing the pentagon papers), in addition to being an R leaning state.
People don't really like calling it early as it has a propensity for unusual voting patterns (somewhat like NH).
Remember, this is where a person whose last name was "Murkowski" won an election where she to be a write in, spelled correctly, against her own party's nominee.
I hated it when she won. Joe Miller was such a great candidate.
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I am just a guy watching all this process of election from India. But, from whatever i have seen, this is one of the weirdest election count processes i have seen in a while. I mean , Asian countries like India counts their votes in like 12-13 hours and more than 700 mil people vote there.
Can anyone provide any explanation as to why it takes so long to count the vote in US?
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On November 06 2020 11:26 Wegandi wrote:I think that tells you all you need to know (and its across the spectrum). Damn I bet Weiner wishing he had gotten away with it for a few more years. Shucks.
Nominative determinism’s Anthony Weiner right there.
I don’t really understand scandals myself and what sticks and what doesn’t. Someone fucks somebody who isn’t their spouse I don’t really care, but a hardcore Christian probably should.
If someone behaves unethically in trying to cover up a scandal, or does things that actually fuck people over via their office then yeah I’ll discount them on a character basis. Or blatant hypocrisy and you’re out in my book.
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On November 06 2020 11:31 Kamisamanachi wrote:
I am just a guy watching all this process of election from India. But, from whatever i have seen, this is one of the weirdest election count processes i have seen in a while. I mean , Asian countries like India counts their votes in like 12-13 hours and more than 700 mil people vote there. Can anyone provide any explanation as to why it takes so long to count the vote in US?
State rights. We basically let states be as shitty as they want. We have no core system.
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Still thinking about Fox News calling AZ so early when it seems to be as close as GA, or at least somewhat in the similar range....
What's the chance that they thought it's only mail ballots left and thought they would heavily lean Dem and just forgot that AZ has a high amount of Republicans using vote by mail and that's how we got here
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On November 06 2020 11:26 Wegandi wrote:I think that tells you all you need to know (and its across the spectrum). Damn I bet Weiner wishing he had gotten away with it for a few more years. Shucks.
The thread’s assessment is focused on state-level stuff, but yes. National level candidates can still be ruined by scandals (for better or worse, a lot of scandals are bullshit), but at state level you will predict races more accurately not knowing about their scandals than knowing about them.
Btw by the time I read your response to me earlier the thread was like 20 pages on, but if you still want a response I can look up your post.
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On November 06 2020 11:31 Kamisamanachi wrote:
I am just a guy watching all this process of election from India. But, from whatever i have seen, this is one of the weirdest election count processes i have seen in a while. I mean , Asian countries like India counts their votes in like 12-13 hours and more than 700 mil people vote there.
Can anyone provide any explanation as to why it takes so long to count the vote in US?
They use imperial measurements when counting votes which is less efficient than the metric system.
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