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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27238 Posts
November 06 2020 02:10 GMT
#3841
On November 06 2020 11:09 GreenHorizons wrote:
Has anyone here ever counted votes in a contested US election or been an observer?

Aye what you want to know?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-06 02:14:06
November 06 2020 02:13 GMT
#3842
Nate Silver's twitter is going full meme and I kind of love it.



He's even been shit-posting in Dave Wasserman's twitter feed and asking him if he's seen enough.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
November 06 2020 02:13 GMT
#3843
PA UPDATE: Delaware county with another 1% reporting, Biden narrowed the lead to 49k. Incredible, with still over 10% to count from Philly
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
November 06 2020 02:15 GMT
#3844
On November 06 2020 11:13 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Nate Silver's twitter is going full meme and I kind of love it.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1324534164826296323

He's even been shit-posting in Dave Wasserman's twitter feed and asking him if he's seen enough.

I love how no one wants to call either Nevada or PA because of what it would mean for AP and FOX lol
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IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-06 02:17:31
November 06 2020 02:15 GMT
#3845
GA is going to flip in the next three hours. Mark it boys, election over in 3 hours

Fox news calls the election by 2am
Something witty
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1845 Posts
November 06 2020 02:17 GMT
#3846
CNN just said there's still 5,726 outstanding votes in Clayton county. Which is currently 85/15 for Biden.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
November 06 2020 02:17 GMT
#3847
On November 06 2020 11:15 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 11:13 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Nate Silver's twitter is going full meme and I kind of love it.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1324534164826296323

He's even been shit-posting in Dave Wasserman's twitter feed and asking him if he's seen enough.

I love how no one wants to call either Nevada or PA because of what it would mean for AP and FOX lol


Fucking cowards.

Grow a spine and call it, ya bastards!
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
November 06 2020 02:17 GMT
#3848
On November 06 2020 11:15 IyMoon wrote:
GA is going to flip in the next three hours. Mark it boys, election over in 3 hours

Election has been over lol. PA is so far above the line Biden needs to hold.

But it will be so funny to see Republican heads explode when Georgia goes blue. COME ON GEORGIA ILL DRINK PEACH TEA FOR YOU
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Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
November 06 2020 02:17 GMT
#3849
On November 06 2020 11:03 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 10:45 Wegandi wrote:
On November 06 2020 10:40 WombaT wrote:
On November 06 2020 10:31 Wegandi wrote:
On November 06 2020 10:24 WombaT wrote:
On November 06 2020 10:05 Wegandi wrote:
Whatever I reiterate my point that democrats wailing about GOP not compromising are themselves not willing to compromise. The political tension in this country is high and people are drifting apart. This isnt some unique thing to the GOP. Shit rings hollow just like Graham re: ACB and Merrick Garland.

Why would you compromise with the GOP and what on, what are you getting out of that arrangement?

The President can’t even tucking concede an election like a man. After 4 years of well, we know what.

If your strategy is rampant obstructionism and we’re at this point we are today, either rebuild the shambles of a party to a point where mutual compromise is not just pragmatic, but in the interests of the populace at large.

Or don’t and continue down the current path and we’ll see where that goes.

Inb4 the Dems are partisan too, well no shit.


Cory Booker and Rand Paul re: criminal justice? Maybe you get dems OK with tax cuts and lower tax rates for some environmental thing or w/e? But thats the thing neither side will ever allow a budge on any position. Id happily sign off on axing oil subsidies to lower marginal income rates of all brackets by 25%.

Booker and Paul are not exactly in line with the GOP on those issues. I’d consider them as borderline independents in the inverse sense Bernie is an Independent who is in the Democrat camp. The GOP rank and file and associated media propagandists?

Even in your hypothetical it’s a trade for something that should (IMO) obviously be done vs the Dems kneecapping their ability to fund their wider programs, why would they go for it?

The ideal is in hypothetical land Rand Paul and Cory Booker slide across the aisle on this one issue which they’re clearly in alignment on, and go back to doing battle on fiscal policy. And the alternative in some other issue.



You have to give to get. Ok so youre not willing to compromise on tax cuts. What about regulations? What are you willing to compromise with? The point of compromise is neither side is entirely happy. You willing to expand gun rights?

Which is why the narrative that GOP are obstructionists and will never compromise, etc. is so stupid. Neither side is. Its purity or youre thrown to the wolves. The discord and disunity in the country is to be blamed on everyone not just the GOP.

Tax cuts for universal health care?

I wasn’t quibbling with the idea of compromise, merely your example as a rather uneven trade was all.

Sure everyone is to blame, just not everyone is equally to blame.


Fair enough. Universal Health care eh....thats gonna cost big. Eliminate the income tax. Gonna have to pay for it with tariffs and capital gains taxes lol.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
November 06 2020 02:18 GMT
#3850
Jennifer Medina, in Phoenix 1m ago

With another batch of votes in Maricopa County (Phoenix), Biden’s lead in Arizona has shrunk. These are the last votes expected to be reported by Maricopa tonight.


Looks like no more Arizona results besides maybe some tea leaves for tonight.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 06 2020 02:19 GMT
#3851
I think the GA flip margin will be too close for the election to count as over for the networks. I could see it genuinely within recount/weird international ballot range.

It's pretty much PA or nothing for a call tonight.

On November 06 2020 11:15 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 11:13 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Nate Silver's twitter is going full meme and I kind of love it.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1324534164826296323

He's even been shit-posting in Dave Wasserman's twitter feed and asking him if he's seen enough.

I love how no one wants to call either Nevada or PA because of what it would mean for AP and FOX lol


It's kind of adorable. Strong vibes of when you're playing a game with a friend you know you outclass and you play just a little less focused than you normally would.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
November 06 2020 02:19 GMT
#3852
Is there are a reason Alaska hasn't been called already? My understanding was that it'd go red almost no matter what. I get that the 3 EC votes aren't that meaningful so it probably has less importance and that distances may make counting hard, but are they just being extra cautious because of how close the race is or is there at least small chance it isn't default red?
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Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States839 Posts
November 06 2020 02:19 GMT
#3853
On November 06 2020 10:55 WombaT wrote:
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On November 06 2020 10:49 Husyelt wrote:
On November 06 2020 10:42 WombaT wrote:
Why in 2020 is it acceptable for adults in positions of wealth and power to all caps like a child?

Eric Trump should be shot out of a cannon into a son for both the message of that email and the manner it was articulated.

Focus group research and buzz words must be in CAPS.

As much as I agree why aren’t you hard at work on your latest masterpiece?

You are my first groupie, and while I am blushing right now, I must confess the new video is taking some time. Perhaps next week.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
November 06 2020 02:20 GMT
#3854
Filed under “whatever happens tonight our democracy is still deeply fucked”:

https://twitter.com/chaznuttycombe/status/1324520193503223808?s=21
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
November 06 2020 02:20 GMT
#3855
On November 06 2020 11:18 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
Jennifer Medina, in Phoenix 1m ago

With another batch of votes in Maricopa County (Phoenix), Biden’s lead in Arizona has shrunk. These are the last votes expected to be reported by Maricopa tonight.


Looks like no more Arizona results besides maybe some tea leaves for tonight.


Good Lord Arizona how incompetent can you be?
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
November 06 2020 02:20 GMT
#3856
On November 06 2020 11:19 Oukka wrote:
Is there are a reason Alaska hasn't been called already? My understanding was that it'd go red almost no matter what. I get that the 3 EC votes aren't that meaningful so it probably has less importance and that distances may make counting hard, but are they just being extra cautious because of how close the race is or is there at least small chance it isn't default red?


same reason NC/NV isnt called. They are just being really cautious/cowards
Something witty
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-06 02:21:53
November 06 2020 02:20 GMT
#3857
On November 06 2020 11:19 Oukka wrote:
Is there are a reason Alaska hasn't been called already? My understanding was that it'd go red almost no matter what. I get that the 3 EC votes aren't that meaningful so it probably has less importance and that distances may make counting hard, but are they just being extra cautious because of how close the race is or is there at least small chance it isn't default red?


My impression is that they haven't really counted *any* mail-in ballots yet, and that's 44.6% of the vote there. I think it's probably still R but not to the extent that, say, PA is D.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 06 2020 02:21 GMT
#3858
On November 06 2020 11:17 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 11:15 IyMoon wrote:
GA is going to flip in the next three hours. Mark it boys, election over in 3 hours

Election has been over lol. PA is so far above the line Biden needs to hold.

But it will be so funny to see Republican heads explode when Georgia goes blue. COME ON GEORGIA ILL DRINK PEACH TEA FOR YOU

i think the fear is that some of these estimates of what is left to count might be incorrect due to people misrepresenting or misunderstanding some data.

If PA actually has 100k or 200k less votes to count than we think it becomes super scary with AZ and GA being what they are right now. It's only over if you have 100% trust in PA actually being right, and people reading (and thus reporting) correctly about how much they still have to count... which i can understand.
There was some tweet on 538 yesterday when someone said the miscalculated PA outstanding votes by 150k that then an hour later got corrected and they never were wrong in the first place iirc? but shit is close
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
November 06 2020 02:22 GMT
#3859
On November 06 2020 11:21 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 11:17 FlaShFTW wrote:
On November 06 2020 11:15 IyMoon wrote:
GA is going to flip in the next three hours. Mark it boys, election over in 3 hours

Election has been over lol. PA is so far above the line Biden needs to hold.

But it will be so funny to see Republican heads explode when Georgia goes blue. COME ON GEORGIA ILL DRINK PEACH TEA FOR YOU

i think the fear is that some of these estimates of what is left to count might be incorrect due to people misrepresenting or misunderstanding some data.

If PA actually has 100k or 200k less votes to count than we think it becomes super scary with AZ and GA being what they are right now. It's only over if you have 100% trust in PA actually being right, and people reading (and thus reporting) correctly about how much they still have to count... which i can understand.
There was some tweet on 538 yesterday when someone said the miscalculated PA outstanding votes by 150k that then an hour later got corrected and they never were wrong in the first place iirc? but shit is close

I feel like even with the vote being less than expected (which they corrected so I think it's back to normal levels), Biden should still have a comfortable path to victory there.
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Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
November 06 2020 02:22 GMT
#3860
This was a fun read (from my perspective). Interesting times over there in donkey land.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8919195/amp/House-Dems-cry-feud-wild-conference-call-leaks-live-Twitter.html
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
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