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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
June 20 2007 07:13 GMT
#21
On June 20 2007 16:08 Duffybeer wrote:
I go for runs with him, is that good exercise? Or is it just those things that the dog wants to do because its bored? Because he tries to run whenever I go for walks, and I run with him, leash hand to hand.


the dogs love to run and will happily run with you, usually they have a lot more stamina as well
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Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
June 20 2007 07:17 GMT
#22
On June 20 2007 15:55 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2007 15:49 1a2a9a wrote:
terrible to hit a dog, my mate did it to his dog when he first had it, now the thing can be vicious. has known to bite people if your not careful, and gets into fights with other dogs if he gets near one. your dog will turn out this way if you keep hitting him.

we trained our dog quite well by using these little chocolate drop sweets, they like Cadbury Chocolate Buttons. you get him to give you his paw, and if he does it then you give him a treat, then repeat. he gets the idea that he will get something good when he does what you ask for him.

I'm pretty sure chocolate can be very toxic for dogs :o I dunno what cadbury chocolate buttons are, maybe they aren't regular chocolate or something, or maybe your dog is just not affected, but I've always been told chocolate + dogs = potentially very dangerous.


regular chocolate isnt toxic, its the dark/baking chocolate

but i still wouldnt give shit like that to my dogs =o
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
weaksauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
369 Posts
June 20 2007 07:22 GMT
#23
i found some usefull youtube vids by http://www.youtube.com/user/eletendre1



even if he DID detect penis - cubEdin
Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
June 20 2007 07:54 GMT
#24
Thank you so much! The videos were great help.
Fascism is bad......
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4567 Posts
June 20 2007 08:23 GMT
#25
I served my military time in the army as a dog trainer.
Use minimal amount of negative feedback, always use positive feedback when possible.
There is a lot you can do, but I wont start giving advice here because you can only misinterpret them.
You need can learn quite fast how to train a dog, its not real mystery. The key word is consistency,
You have to behave 100% consistent.
Always feed him at the same time. Never give him any food outside the meal. Never give him rewards he doesnt deserve, never be mad at him for no reason.
If you are mad at him, it must be within 2 seconds after he did something wrong. Its very bad to be mad at him after that because he wont understand why.

Id first start to train your dog to sit and hold in place before giving him his food, make him sit, walk few step and if he doesnt stay, be mad at him when he moves and make him sit again and repeat the process untill it succeed. Should work in two days max.
Its okay to use negative feedback there because he will be very exited by the reward of food and will tend to do anything to please you there.
When he learns to sit still, you will take more steps each time, then start to require him to stay in place even if you put the food on the ground, make it harder every time.

You can do the same training while playing with him with his favorite toy.

Since he is a hunting dog, you could train him to track people, its quite cool, just go around some field or some forest, quite straigh path, put some food every second step, exactly under your foot step. Then make him track the food along the way from where you started your path.
etc get some trainer to train you :D

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[X]Ken~D
Profile Joined June 2007
377 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 08:42:11
June 20 2007 08:41 GMT
#26
Very good thread.

A lot can be applied to children & vice-versa. The mind of a grown dog is similar to a kid.

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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12236 Posts
June 20 2007 08:41 GMT
#27
There's another great show called "It's Me or the Dog" on TLC that my girlfriend and I watch all the time. Here are the basic ways to treat misbehavior:

- If the dog is jumping on you or others, turn your back to him and keep your arms crossed. This minimizes the damage he can cause, especially to your hands since your arms are crossed, and shows that you're ignoring his bad behavior. Stay silent to show him you're not reacting and reinforcing his behavior.

- If the dog is walking into places or peeing in places he shouldn't, use sound aversion techniques. When the dog walks into the forbidden room or area, immediately give a quick vocal response "ah-AH", something that distracts the dog with a quick, loud sound (don't use "no").

- If the dog refuses to eat from his dish, take the dish from him and pretend to eat from it. Make sure you make eye contact with him while you have the dish near your mouth, and make sure he gets the point that you're eating before him, and that you're the one controlling his meals, not him.

- If you want the dog to pay more attention, you reward him when he does what you want. The dog has to understand that your wishes come first, so when you hold food in front of him, make him sit, then praise him and feed him. Put a piece of food/treat on the ground near him and tell him to stay, and if he fails use sound aversion and take it back, and when he succeeds praise him and reward him with the food.

- When you're walking the dog, if the dog is pulling you, don't yank the lead. Just guide him in the opposite direction, heading back the way you came. The dog is seeking to walk toward new surroundings but he has to understand that it will be at your pace, so by turning around he'll get the point. After doing this a few times he'll walk by your side (and turn around if he gets too far in front).
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 09:10:04
June 20 2007 09:08 GMT
#28
1. When the dog asks how he looks, shrug and say "could be better."
This will keep the dog on his toes, and dogs love that.

2. Never hold the dog’s hand. This can be interpreted as a sign of weakness.
If the dog grabs your hand, squeeze the dogs really hard until the dog cries (this
will impress the dog by showing the dog what a strong man you are).

3. Once a month, sneak up on the dog from behind and knock the dog over. Dogs
are like dogs; they love to be roughed up.

4. Call the dog in the middle of the night to ask if the dog's sleeping. If
the dog is, say "you better be." Repeat this 4 or 5 times until morning. This will
show the dog you care.

5. When the dog is upset about something, suggest to the dog that it might be
the dog fault. This will pave the way for the dog own personal improvement, and
every girl needs some improvement.

6. Recognize the small things, as they usually mean the most. Then
when the dog’s sleeping, steal all the dogs small things and break them, because
jewelry is for wussies and Asian ladies.

7. If you're talking to another dog, make sure the dog's looking. When the dog is,
stare into the dog eyes, mouth the words "**** you" and grab the other dog’s ass.
Dogs love competition.

8. Tell the dog you're taking the dog out to dinner. Drive for miles so the dog
thinks it's going to be really special. Then take the dog to a burning tire yard.
When the dog starts to get upset, tell the dog you were just kidding and now you're
really going to take the dog to dinner. Then drive the dog home. When the dog
starts crying and asks why you would do something like that, lean over and
whisper very quietly into the dog ear "…because I can."

9. Introduce the dog to your friends as "some chick." Women love those
special nicknames.

10. Play with the dog’s hair. Play with it HARD.

11. Warm the dog up when the dog's cold…and not by giving the dog your jacket,
because then you might get cold. Rather, look the dog in the eye and say
"if you don't stop bitching about the cold right now, you're going to be
bitching about a black eye." The best way to get warm is with fear.

12. Take the dog to a party. When you get there, the dog will have to go to the
bathroom (they always do). Leave immediately. Come back right when the
party is dying and yell at the dog the whole way home for ditching you all
night.

13. Make the dog laugh. A good way to do this is if the dog has a small pet.
Kick the pet. Guys always find stuff like that funny…why shouldn't dogs?

14. Let the dog fall asleep in your arms. When the dog's fast asleep, wait 10
minutes, then jump up and scream in the dog ear. Repeat until the dog goes
home and you can use your arms for more important things (like basketball).

15. Spit often. I hear dogs like guys that spit.

16. If you care about the dog, never ever tell the dog. This will only give
the dog self-confidence, then you can never turn the dog into the object the dog deep
down desires to be.

17. Every time you're in the dog house, steal one of the dog shoes, earrings
or anything else that comes in pairs. Only take one of the pair. This
way, the dog'll go crazy.

18. Take the dog out to dinner. Right when the dog's about to order, interrupt
and say "no, the dog's not hungry." Make the dog watch you eat. Dogs love a guy
that speaks for the dog.

19. Look the dog in the eyes and smile. Then punch the dog in the face. Dogs
love a spontaneous guy.

20. Give the dog one of your t-shirts, and make sure it has your smell on
it (but not a sexy cologne smell…a bad smell. You know what I'm talking
about).

21. When it's raining, keep asking the dog if the dog's crying. The dog'll say
"no, it's just the rain." Ten minutes later, turn to the dog and just scream at
the dog to stop crying. Dogs like a tough man.

22. Titty twisters and plenty of them.

23. If you're listening to music, and the dog asks to hear it, tell the dog
no. This way the dog'll think you're mysterious.

24. Remember the dog birthday, but don't get the dog anything. Teach the dog that
material objects arent important. The only thing that's important is
that the dog keeps you happy, and your happiness is the greatest present the dog
can ever get.

25. When the dog gives you a present on your birthday, Christmas or just
whenever, take it and tell the dog you love it. Then, next time you know
the dog's coming over on a trash day, leave the trash can open and have the
present visibly sticking out of the can. Dogs actually don't like this one
that much, but guys think it's funny.

26. If the dog's mad at you for not calling the dog when you say you will,
promise the dog that you will call the dog at a certain time of the day. This will
make sure that the dog waits by the phone. Tell the dog when you call that you're
going to tell the dog a special surprise. Now the dog'll be really excited. Don't
call.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12236 Posts
June 20 2007 09:12 GMT
#29

21. When it's raining, keep asking the dog if the dog's crying. The dog'll say
"no, it's just the rain." Ten minutes later, turn to the dog and just scream at
the dog to stop crying. Dogs like a tough man.


This would freak me out.
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 20 2007 09:15 GMT
#30
On June 20 2007 18:08 Hot_Bid wrote:
1. When the dog asks how he looks, shrug and say "could be better."
This will keep the dog on his toes, and dogs love that.

2. Never hold the dog’s hand. This can be interpreted as a sign of weakness.
If the dog grabs your hand, squeeze the dogs really hard until the dog cries (this
will impress the dog by showing the dog what a strong man you are).

3. Once a month, sneak up on the dog from behind and knock the dog over. Dogs
are like dogs; they love to be roughed up.

4. Call the dog in the middle of the night to ask if the dog's sleeping. If
the dog is, say "you better be." Repeat this 4 or 5 times until morning. This will
show the dog you care.

5. When the dog is upset about something, suggest to the dog that it might be
the dog fault. This will pave the way for the dog own personal improvement, and
every girl needs some improvement.

6. Recognize the small things, as they usually mean the most. Then
when the dog’s sleeping, steal all the dogs small things and break them, because
jewelry is for wussies and Asian ladies.

7. If you're talking to another dog, make sure the dog's looking. When the dog is,
stare into the dog eyes, mouth the words "**** you" and grab the other dog’s ass.
Dogs love competition.

8. Tell the dog you're taking the dog out to dinner. Drive for miles so the dog
thinks it's going to be really special. Then take the dog to a burning tire yard.
When the dog starts to get upset, tell the dog you were just kidding and now you're
really going to take the dog to dinner. Then drive the dog home. When the dog
starts crying and asks why you would do something like that, lean over and
whisper very quietly into the dog ear "…because I can."

9. Introduce the dog to your friends as "some chick." Women love those
special nicknames.

10. Play with the dog’s hair. Play with it HARD.

11. Warm the dog up when the dog's cold…and not by giving the dog your jacket,
because then you might get cold. Rather, look the dog in the eye and say
"if you don't stop bitching about the cold right now, you're going to be
bitching about a black eye." The best way to get warm is with fear.

12. Take the dog to a party. When you get there, the dog will have to go to the
bathroom (they always do). Leave immediately. Come back right when the
party is dying and yell at the dog the whole way home for ditching you all
night.

13. Make the dog laugh. A good way to do this is if the dog has a small pet.
Kick the pet. Guys always find stuff like that funny…why shouldn't dogs?

14. Let the dog fall asleep in your arms. When the dog's fast asleep, wait 10
minutes, then jump up and scream in the dog ear. Repeat until the dog goes
home and you can use your arms for more important things (like basketball).

15. Spit often. I hear dogs like guys that spit.

16. If you care about the dog, never ever tell the dog. This will only give
the dog self-confidence, then you can never turn the dog into the object the dog deep
down desires to be.

17. Every time you're in the dog house, steal one of the dog shoes, earrings
or anything else that comes in pairs. Only take one of the pair. This
way, the dog'll go crazy.

18. Take the dog out to dinner. Right when the dog's about to order, interrupt
and say "no, the dog's not hungry." Make the dog watch you eat. Dogs love a guy
that speaks for the dog.

19. Look the dog in the eyes and smile. Then punch the dog in the face. Dogs
love a spontaneous guy.

20. Give the dog one of your t-shirts, and make sure it has your smell on
it (but not a sexy cologne smell…a bad smell. You know what I'm talking
about).

21. When it's raining, keep asking the dog if the dog's crying. The dog'll say
"no, it's just the rain." Ten minutes later, turn to the dog and just scream at
the dog to stop crying. Dogs like a tough man.

22. Titty twisters and plenty of them.

23. If you're listening to music, and the dog asks to hear it, tell the dog
no. This way the dog'll think you're mysterious.

24. Remember the dog birthday, but don't get the dog anything. Teach the dog that
material objects arent important. The only thing that's important is
that the dog keeps you happy, and your happiness is the greatest present the dog
can ever get.

25. When the dog gives you a present on your birthday, Christmas or just
whenever, take it and tell the dog you love it. Then, next time you know
the dog's coming over on a trash day, leave the trash can open and have the
present visibly sticking out of the can. Dogs actually don't like this one
that much, but guys think it's funny.

26. If the dog's mad at you for not calling the dog when you say you will,
promise the dog that you will call the dog at a certain time of the day. This will
make sure that the dog waits by the phone. Tell the dog when you call that you're
going to tell the dog a special surprise. Now the dog'll be really excited. Don't
call.



FAILURE!

Seriously, this is a good thread, and to fuck it up with that, ain't cool .

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The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
June 20 2007 10:31 GMT
#31
Have you considered giving up your dog and getting another one instead? Some dogs need a huge amount of exercise to be happy, and if your house isn't enormous, or if you're not into jogging and running and playing with them for an hour or so everyday, they just don't feel comfortable, no matter how well you train them.
bboyldy
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Korea (North)664 Posts
June 20 2007 10:38 GMT
#32
Pics or didn't happen
expressing myself through the form of dancing
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
June 20 2007 10:43 GMT
#33
what would you do if your dog only listens to you if you have food in your hand? Like if i have food, he'd sit, stay, shake, etc. But if he sees i don't have any, he loses interest and wanders off. Also, what do i do if my dog likes to raid trash cans and food on tables? Smart little bugger knows when you're not watching and sneaks into the kitchen and tries to steal food.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12236 Posts
June 20 2007 10:47 GMT
#34
On June 20 2007 19:43 pokeyAA wrote:
what would you do if your dog only listens to you if you have food in your hand? Like if i have food, he'd sit, stay, shake, etc. But if he sees i don't have any, he loses interest and wanders off. Also, what do i do if my dog likes to raid trash cans and food on tables? Smart little bugger knows when you're not watching and sneaks into the kitchen and tries to steal food.


The food is only to ween him off that behavior. Eventually (after about a week or two) he'll start behaving better and you won't have to use food as a bargaining chip.

As for stealing food, that's a little tougher. On the show, they rig a camera on the ceiling and have a remote sound generating device (like an airhorn for example). When the dog tries to steal food while you're watching from the camera, he doesn't know you're watching even though you're not there and so he'll be less inclined to do it after you correct his behavior a few times in that way.
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
June 20 2007 10:52 GMT
#35
Dog obedience can be a really fun exercise, and one of the most rewarding things at the end of the road. You should take it to dog-training sessions, they have them here on weekends in Australia where people can get professional advice etc etc
Oh no
weaksauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
369 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 11:02:04
June 20 2007 10:58 GMT
#36
On June 20 2007 19:43 pokeyAA wrote:
what would you do if your dog only listens to you if you have food in your hand? Like if i have food, he'd sit, stay, shake, etc. But if he sees i don't have any, he loses interest and wanders off. Also, what do i do if my dog likes to raid trash cans and food on tables? Smart little bugger knows when you're not watching and sneaks into the kitchen and tries to steal food.


the guy in the vids i recommended earlier covers this, i thought it was hilarious





also, with the losing interest with the food thing, make sure you do something else to praise along with the food like pet and say "good boy". you'll see the guy also uses the clicker. with conditioning, the sound of the clicker can prove as powerful a reward as the food
even if he DID detect penis - cubEdin
Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
July 08 2007 01:24 GMT
#37
bump cuz I need help again. I tried so many of the things, but the stupid dog deosn't seem to pay attention or understand whats going on.
Fascism is bad......
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
July 08 2007 01:39 GMT
#38
On July 08 2007 10:24 Duffybeer wrote:
bump cuz I need help again. I tried so many of the things, but the stupid dog deosn't seem to pay attention or understand whats going on.


Animals are not stupid, they know what they are doing, if he is not listening to you its because you aren't communicating with him effectively. What have you tried?
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-08 02:16:31
July 08 2007 02:14 GMT
#39
ask m2, he trained his dog pretty well. couldn't get it to use condoms, though.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
Months
Profile Joined July 2005
United States356 Posts
July 08 2007 02:42 GMT
#40
On July 08 2007 11:14 dementus wrote:
ask m2, he trained his dog pretty well. couldn't get it to use condoms, though.

LOL
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