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Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 04:40:27
June 20 2007 04:39 GMT
#1
I just got a new dog an year ago and it was a little pup when I got him. Its a britney spanuel the hunting breed, the nightmare dog to take to walks, the dogs used in hunts or game. Anyways I am having some few problems, I've had him for an year now, and I can't train him. The problem is that my mom says she is too busy to take my dog to a trainer, and she always makes some stupid excuses pointing to how busy she is, and how much time she deosn't have, and how much work she did on a day, so pathetic.

Anyways its up to me to train that stupid dog, the problem is that he is uncontrollable!!!! I have to tie him to a leash everytime I go outside, and whenever I don't he runs off!!!! Deosn't even stay, I have to put him in a cage everyday, because of this. I don't blame him, I don't really like play with him often, although I do take him for walks, where I have to hold him because he is going to run off chasing something. He is a smart dog, he deosn't bite people, he deosn't bark at strangers, he is easy to control after you take him for walks with no training. He deosn't seem like a bad dog at all if you see him. Anyways he deos not listen to me, whenever I have food in my hands and I say "sit", he sits down. Sometime when I hit him he stops but he is chaotic. I can't even send him inside my house or he's going to run around my house and I have to catch him. I can't really give him a proper bath either.

So anyway to the main point, any guidelines, advice, methods you guys with trained dogs can give me on training my new dog?
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TheJakester
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia1 Post
June 20 2007 04:45 GMT
#2
Hmm. Do the caveman thing, dont feel slack, just simply give him a whack immediately after he disobeys an order, and use alot of non verbal communication. Also, it helps to change the tone of your voice when speaking commands to him.
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 04:51:58
June 20 2007 04:51 GMT
#3
Theirs a show on I think TLC National Geographic?, it's called.. ... The Dog Whisperer? It's really good you can pick up some tips their. The shows bascially about a guy comming in and training people's chaotic dogs. You might even be able to get him to come to your house if his crazy enough.
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NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
June 20 2007 04:51 GMT
#4
animals react very well to positive reinforcement. Get a bag of doggy treats, and start telling him things and give him a treat when he even remotely obeys. Then guide his actions a little more specifically, until he eventually connects "sit" with actually sitting down and so forth.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 04:53:58
June 20 2007 04:53 GMT
#5
I'd start with not beating him.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
June 20 2007 04:56 GMT
#6
positive reinforcement for when the dog behaves, and use a stern voice and stare it down whenever it misbehaves. don't use violence
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comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
June 20 2007 05:06 GMT
#7
if he does something bad, use something loud to get his attention, then give him a treat when he stops. after you do that like 20x in row he'll figure it out.
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sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
June 20 2007 05:47 GMT
#8
DO NOT HIT THE DOG. This is the worst thing you can do. Dogs need positive reinforcement for doing good things and then a finger or mean voice to scold it. Some tips:

-Use dog food instead of treats to reward the dog. They take anything given to them by hand as a treat and will be happy to receive anything from you.
- Carry some food EVERYWHERE you go with the dog. Any time the dog obeys give it a treat. For example on walks take a handful of food with you. When the dog is good and stays close feed it some food (treats!). Do this a lot to reinforce that staying with you is good.
-Make up a mean voice that you will ALWAYS use to scold the dog. Never hit him, but point and use a stern voice. Don't yell or scare it, just make sure it understands that it has been bad. Remember, the tone of your voice counts more than what you say. With my dog I can say "YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT DOG ALL DAY I LOVE YOU" in the mean voice and it still is scolding.
- Work on things one at a time, the dog is not going to learn everything at once. For example start with just people skills (if your dog barks when people arrive/leave). Have a friend walk in and out of the house. Tell the dog to be quiet in the stern voice, and give it some food if it is. Work on this for a week or so until it's got that down, then move on to behaving on walks, coming when you tell it etc..... (it's really easy to teach a dog to come).

THEN AFTER you have taught your dog these things you should begin extra training like "Sit, bark, roll over" and stuff.

There are tons of resources on the internet too. Dogs are pretty smart animals, you just have to know how to work with them and not against them.
Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
June 20 2007 06:01 GMT
#9
Thanks for the advice.
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 06:36:47
June 20 2007 06:36 GMT
#10
yeah never strike the dog. this teaches it to fear you and can lead to problems down the road. not to mention that's probably not the type of relationship with your dog you are looking for

you can try carrying his ration around with you during the day instead of giving it to him, and feed him only when he is obedient or follows a command. he will be hungry and he will make the connection between obeying and being fed. if you do this make sure he gets his entire ration for the day though. you dont want to starve the damn thing.

when he obeys commands 100% you can switch to feeding him and giving him treats when he follows instruction. then you can swap in praise for treats, and finally only praise with occasional treats
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Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
June 20 2007 06:40 GMT
#11
Ok, yeah I made several motions, for him to sit down, and I said "sit" and he seemed to comply a little, I gave him some of his food as a reward and he is seeming to get the idea, although he is still getting distracted now and often, sometimes I made the motion and said sit and it wouldn't sit down, until I had to do it like 40X times.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
June 20 2007 06:42 GMT
#12
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 20 2007 06:43 GMT
#13
Do not beat him.

I have a dog, she is like 2 months old, a Golden Retriever.

She's fucking nuts, she wants to play all the time and she won't stay put for a single second. What I do when she does her needs in a place where she should not, I pick them up, I pick her, and put the poop or w/e in the place I want her to do it, and then say loudly "It's here where you will do this, not there, but HERE!".

She got it right away, she won't poop or take a piss anywhere else now, she makes me run like a fucker, but that is just <3.
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1a2a9a
Profile Joined November 2006
Finland206 Posts
June 20 2007 06:49 GMT
#14
terrible to hit a dog, my mate did it to his dog when he first had it, now the thing can be vicious. has known to bite people if your not careful, and gets into fights with other dogs if he gets near one. your dog will turn out this way if you keep hitting him.

we trained our dog quite well by using these little chocolate drop sweets, they like Cadbury Chocolate Buttons. you get him to give you his paw, and if he does it then you give him a treat, then repeat. he gets the idea that he will get something good when he does what you ask for him.
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
June 20 2007 06:50 GMT
#15
also make sure your dog gets plenty of exercise

a lot of the running away stuff is simply because its bored

45 minutes a day of vigorous exercise will be good for both you and your dog

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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 20 2007 06:55 GMT
#16
On June 20 2007 15:49 1a2a9a wrote:
terrible to hit a dog, my mate did it to his dog when he first had it, now the thing can be vicious. has known to bite people if your not careful, and gets into fights with other dogs if he gets near one. your dog will turn out this way if you keep hitting him.

we trained our dog quite well by using these little chocolate drop sweets, they like Cadbury Chocolate Buttons. you get him to give you his paw, and if he does it then you give him a treat, then repeat. he gets the idea that he will get something good when he does what you ask for him.

I'm pretty sure chocolate can be very toxic for dogs :o I dunno what cadbury chocolate buttons are, maybe they aren't regular chocolate or something, or maybe your dog is just not affected, but I've always been told chocolate + dogs = potentially very dangerous.
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Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
June 20 2007 07:01 GMT
#17
how do you exercise your dog?
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
June 20 2007 07:05 GMT
#18
put him on a leash and go for a run with him, rollerblade with him

throw ball with him

swim with him

tons of ways
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Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 07:11:28
June 20 2007 07:08 GMT
#19
I go for runs with him, is that good exercise? Or is it just those things that the dog wants to do because its bored? Because he tries to run whenever I go for walks, and I run with him, leash hand to hand.
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 07:17:03
June 20 2007 07:11 GMT
#20
yup dogs really get messed up from chocolate

i trained my dog when she was very young and still learned extremely quickly. we gave small food rewards for good behavior, and eventually replaced the food with petting and approval.

the biggest way we let her know what is good and what is bad is with how we speak to her. teaching your dog to understand the tone of your voice takes very little effort because they're extremely intelligent. basically she understands urgency which she will react instantly to, anger that she will cautiously obey, and encouragement which she will happily respond to. without any tone, she will often acknowledge it by looking at us and then sit down, which is her form of protest when she wants to play outside longer (we usually let her).

don't hit your dog, it really pays off. whenever we playfight or when strangers she doesn't like start to touch her, she grabs people's hands but remembers to never actually bite down.

ps. you don't need a trainer unless your dog is absolutely hopeless. the process is rewarding and really not that hard - you're with your dog most of the day every day. just constantly try to teach him to behave and eventually (unless you have an uncommonly stupid dog) he'll pick up.

as for exercise, if you find running boring for you (or if you're a lazy ass), dribble a soccer ball around in circles while he runs around you trying to get to it, or simply sit in your lawn and throw a ball for him to fetch (if you are a super lazy ass).
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
June 20 2007 07:13 GMT
#21
On June 20 2007 16:08 Duffybeer wrote:
I go for runs with him, is that good exercise? Or is it just those things that the dog wants to do because its bored? Because he tries to run whenever I go for walks, and I run with him, leash hand to hand.


the dogs love to run and will happily run with you, usually they have a lot more stamina as well
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Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
June 20 2007 07:17 GMT
#22
On June 20 2007 15:55 FrozenArbiter wrote:
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On June 20 2007 15:49 1a2a9a wrote:
terrible to hit a dog, my mate did it to his dog when he first had it, now the thing can be vicious. has known to bite people if your not careful, and gets into fights with other dogs if he gets near one. your dog will turn out this way if you keep hitting him.

we trained our dog quite well by using these little chocolate drop sweets, they like Cadbury Chocolate Buttons. you get him to give you his paw, and if he does it then you give him a treat, then repeat. he gets the idea that he will get something good when he does what you ask for him.

I'm pretty sure chocolate can be very toxic for dogs :o I dunno what cadbury chocolate buttons are, maybe they aren't regular chocolate or something, or maybe your dog is just not affected, but I've always been told chocolate + dogs = potentially very dangerous.


regular chocolate isnt toxic, its the dark/baking chocolate

but i still wouldnt give shit like that to my dogs =o
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weaksauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
369 Posts
June 20 2007 07:22 GMT
#23
i found some usefull youtube vids by http://www.youtube.com/user/eletendre1



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Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
June 20 2007 07:54 GMT
#24
Thank you so much! The videos were great help.
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0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4567 Posts
June 20 2007 08:23 GMT
#25
I served my military time in the army as a dog trainer.
Use minimal amount of negative feedback, always use positive feedback when possible.
There is a lot you can do, but I wont start giving advice here because you can only misinterpret them.
You need can learn quite fast how to train a dog, its not real mystery. The key word is consistency,
You have to behave 100% consistent.
Always feed him at the same time. Never give him any food outside the meal. Never give him rewards he doesnt deserve, never be mad at him for no reason.
If you are mad at him, it must be within 2 seconds after he did something wrong. Its very bad to be mad at him after that because he wont understand why.

Id first start to train your dog to sit and hold in place before giving him his food, make him sit, walk few step and if he doesnt stay, be mad at him when he moves and make him sit again and repeat the process untill it succeed. Should work in two days max.
Its okay to use negative feedback there because he will be very exited by the reward of food and will tend to do anything to please you there.
When he learns to sit still, you will take more steps each time, then start to require him to stay in place even if you put the food on the ground, make it harder every time.

You can do the same training while playing with him with his favorite toy.

Since he is a hunting dog, you could train him to track people, its quite cool, just go around some field or some forest, quite straigh path, put some food every second step, exactly under your foot step. Then make him track the food along the way from where you started your path.
etc get some trainer to train you :D

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[X]Ken~D
Profile Joined June 2007
377 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 08:42:11
June 20 2007 08:41 GMT
#26
Very good thread.

A lot can be applied to children & vice-versa. The mind of a grown dog is similar to a kid.

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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12236 Posts
June 20 2007 08:41 GMT
#27
There's another great show called "It's Me or the Dog" on TLC that my girlfriend and I watch all the time. Here are the basic ways to treat misbehavior:

- If the dog is jumping on you or others, turn your back to him and keep your arms crossed. This minimizes the damage he can cause, especially to your hands since your arms are crossed, and shows that you're ignoring his bad behavior. Stay silent to show him you're not reacting and reinforcing his behavior.

- If the dog is walking into places or peeing in places he shouldn't, use sound aversion techniques. When the dog walks into the forbidden room or area, immediately give a quick vocal response "ah-AH", something that distracts the dog with a quick, loud sound (don't use "no").

- If the dog refuses to eat from his dish, take the dish from him and pretend to eat from it. Make sure you make eye contact with him while you have the dish near your mouth, and make sure he gets the point that you're eating before him, and that you're the one controlling his meals, not him.

- If you want the dog to pay more attention, you reward him when he does what you want. The dog has to understand that your wishes come first, so when you hold food in front of him, make him sit, then praise him and feed him. Put a piece of food/treat on the ground near him and tell him to stay, and if he fails use sound aversion and take it back, and when he succeeds praise him and reward him with the food.

- When you're walking the dog, if the dog is pulling you, don't yank the lead. Just guide him in the opposite direction, heading back the way you came. The dog is seeking to walk toward new surroundings but he has to understand that it will be at your pace, so by turning around he'll get the point. After doing this a few times he'll walk by your side (and turn around if he gets too far in front).
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Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 09:10:04
June 20 2007 09:08 GMT
#28
1. When the dog asks how he looks, shrug and say "could be better."
This will keep the dog on his toes, and dogs love that.

2. Never hold the dog’s hand. This can be interpreted as a sign of weakness.
If the dog grabs your hand, squeeze the dogs really hard until the dog cries (this
will impress the dog by showing the dog what a strong man you are).

3. Once a month, sneak up on the dog from behind and knock the dog over. Dogs
are like dogs; they love to be roughed up.

4. Call the dog in the middle of the night to ask if the dog's sleeping. If
the dog is, say "you better be." Repeat this 4 or 5 times until morning. This will
show the dog you care.

5. When the dog is upset about something, suggest to the dog that it might be
the dog fault. This will pave the way for the dog own personal improvement, and
every girl needs some improvement.

6. Recognize the small things, as they usually mean the most. Then
when the dog’s sleeping, steal all the dogs small things and break them, because
jewelry is for wussies and Asian ladies.

7. If you're talking to another dog, make sure the dog's looking. When the dog is,
stare into the dog eyes, mouth the words "**** you" and grab the other dog’s ass.
Dogs love competition.

8. Tell the dog you're taking the dog out to dinner. Drive for miles so the dog
thinks it's going to be really special. Then take the dog to a burning tire yard.
When the dog starts to get upset, tell the dog you were just kidding and now you're
really going to take the dog to dinner. Then drive the dog home. When the dog
starts crying and asks why you would do something like that, lean over and
whisper very quietly into the dog ear "…because I can."

9. Introduce the dog to your friends as "some chick." Women love those
special nicknames.

10. Play with the dog’s hair. Play with it HARD.

11. Warm the dog up when the dog's cold…and not by giving the dog your jacket,
because then you might get cold. Rather, look the dog in the eye and say
"if you don't stop bitching about the cold right now, you're going to be
bitching about a black eye." The best way to get warm is with fear.

12. Take the dog to a party. When you get there, the dog will have to go to the
bathroom (they always do). Leave immediately. Come back right when the
party is dying and yell at the dog the whole way home for ditching you all
night.

13. Make the dog laugh. A good way to do this is if the dog has a small pet.
Kick the pet. Guys always find stuff like that funny…why shouldn't dogs?

14. Let the dog fall asleep in your arms. When the dog's fast asleep, wait 10
minutes, then jump up and scream in the dog ear. Repeat until the dog goes
home and you can use your arms for more important things (like basketball).

15. Spit often. I hear dogs like guys that spit.

16. If you care about the dog, never ever tell the dog. This will only give
the dog self-confidence, then you can never turn the dog into the object the dog deep
down desires to be.

17. Every time you're in the dog house, steal one of the dog shoes, earrings
or anything else that comes in pairs. Only take one of the pair. This
way, the dog'll go crazy.

18. Take the dog out to dinner. Right when the dog's about to order, interrupt
and say "no, the dog's not hungry." Make the dog watch you eat. Dogs love a guy
that speaks for the dog.

19. Look the dog in the eyes and smile. Then punch the dog in the face. Dogs
love a spontaneous guy.

20. Give the dog one of your t-shirts, and make sure it has your smell on
it (but not a sexy cologne smell…a bad smell. You know what I'm talking
about).

21. When it's raining, keep asking the dog if the dog's crying. The dog'll say
"no, it's just the rain." Ten minutes later, turn to the dog and just scream at
the dog to stop crying. Dogs like a tough man.

22. Titty twisters and plenty of them.

23. If you're listening to music, and the dog asks to hear it, tell the dog
no. This way the dog'll think you're mysterious.

24. Remember the dog birthday, but don't get the dog anything. Teach the dog that
material objects arent important. The only thing that's important is
that the dog keeps you happy, and your happiness is the greatest present the dog
can ever get.

25. When the dog gives you a present on your birthday, Christmas or just
whenever, take it and tell the dog you love it. Then, next time you know
the dog's coming over on a trash day, leave the trash can open and have the
present visibly sticking out of the can. Dogs actually don't like this one
that much, but guys think it's funny.

26. If the dog's mad at you for not calling the dog when you say you will,
promise the dog that you will call the dog at a certain time of the day. This will
make sure that the dog waits by the phone. Tell the dog when you call that you're
going to tell the dog a special surprise. Now the dog'll be really excited. Don't
call.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12236 Posts
June 20 2007 09:12 GMT
#29

21. When it's raining, keep asking the dog if the dog's crying. The dog'll say
"no, it's just the rain." Ten minutes later, turn to the dog and just scream at
the dog to stop crying. Dogs like a tough man.


This would freak me out.
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 20 2007 09:15 GMT
#30
On June 20 2007 18:08 Hot_Bid wrote:
1. When the dog asks how he looks, shrug and say "could be better."
This will keep the dog on his toes, and dogs love that.

2. Never hold the dog’s hand. This can be interpreted as a sign of weakness.
If the dog grabs your hand, squeeze the dogs really hard until the dog cries (this
will impress the dog by showing the dog what a strong man you are).

3. Once a month, sneak up on the dog from behind and knock the dog over. Dogs
are like dogs; they love to be roughed up.

4. Call the dog in the middle of the night to ask if the dog's sleeping. If
the dog is, say "you better be." Repeat this 4 or 5 times until morning. This will
show the dog you care.

5. When the dog is upset about something, suggest to the dog that it might be
the dog fault. This will pave the way for the dog own personal improvement, and
every girl needs some improvement.

6. Recognize the small things, as they usually mean the most. Then
when the dog’s sleeping, steal all the dogs small things and break them, because
jewelry is for wussies and Asian ladies.

7. If you're talking to another dog, make sure the dog's looking. When the dog is,
stare into the dog eyes, mouth the words "**** you" and grab the other dog’s ass.
Dogs love competition.

8. Tell the dog you're taking the dog out to dinner. Drive for miles so the dog
thinks it's going to be really special. Then take the dog to a burning tire yard.
When the dog starts to get upset, tell the dog you were just kidding and now you're
really going to take the dog to dinner. Then drive the dog home. When the dog
starts crying and asks why you would do something like that, lean over and
whisper very quietly into the dog ear "…because I can."

9. Introduce the dog to your friends as "some chick." Women love those
special nicknames.

10. Play with the dog’s hair. Play with it HARD.

11. Warm the dog up when the dog's cold…and not by giving the dog your jacket,
because then you might get cold. Rather, look the dog in the eye and say
"if you don't stop bitching about the cold right now, you're going to be
bitching about a black eye." The best way to get warm is with fear.

12. Take the dog to a party. When you get there, the dog will have to go to the
bathroom (they always do). Leave immediately. Come back right when the
party is dying and yell at the dog the whole way home for ditching you all
night.

13. Make the dog laugh. A good way to do this is if the dog has a small pet.
Kick the pet. Guys always find stuff like that funny…why shouldn't dogs?

14. Let the dog fall asleep in your arms. When the dog's fast asleep, wait 10
minutes, then jump up and scream in the dog ear. Repeat until the dog goes
home and you can use your arms for more important things (like basketball).

15. Spit often. I hear dogs like guys that spit.

16. If you care about the dog, never ever tell the dog. This will only give
the dog self-confidence, then you can never turn the dog into the object the dog deep
down desires to be.

17. Every time you're in the dog house, steal one of the dog shoes, earrings
or anything else that comes in pairs. Only take one of the pair. This
way, the dog'll go crazy.

18. Take the dog out to dinner. Right when the dog's about to order, interrupt
and say "no, the dog's not hungry." Make the dog watch you eat. Dogs love a guy
that speaks for the dog.

19. Look the dog in the eyes and smile. Then punch the dog in the face. Dogs
love a spontaneous guy.

20. Give the dog one of your t-shirts, and make sure it has your smell on
it (but not a sexy cologne smell…a bad smell. You know what I'm talking
about).

21. When it's raining, keep asking the dog if the dog's crying. The dog'll say
"no, it's just the rain." Ten minutes later, turn to the dog and just scream at
the dog to stop crying. Dogs like a tough man.

22. Titty twisters and plenty of them.

23. If you're listening to music, and the dog asks to hear it, tell the dog
no. This way the dog'll think you're mysterious.

24. Remember the dog birthday, but don't get the dog anything. Teach the dog that
material objects arent important. The only thing that's important is
that the dog keeps you happy, and your happiness is the greatest present the dog
can ever get.

25. When the dog gives you a present on your birthday, Christmas or just
whenever, take it and tell the dog you love it. Then, next time you know
the dog's coming over on a trash day, leave the trash can open and have the
present visibly sticking out of the can. Dogs actually don't like this one
that much, but guys think it's funny.

26. If the dog's mad at you for not calling the dog when you say you will,
promise the dog that you will call the dog at a certain time of the day. This will
make sure that the dog waits by the phone. Tell the dog when you call that you're
going to tell the dog a special surprise. Now the dog'll be really excited. Don't
call.



FAILURE!

Seriously, this is a good thread, and to fuck it up with that, ain't cool .

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The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
June 20 2007 10:31 GMT
#31
Have you considered giving up your dog and getting another one instead? Some dogs need a huge amount of exercise to be happy, and if your house isn't enormous, or if you're not into jogging and running and playing with them for an hour or so everyday, they just don't feel comfortable, no matter how well you train them.
bboyldy
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Korea (North)664 Posts
June 20 2007 10:38 GMT
#32
Pics or didn't happen
expressing myself through the form of dancing
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
June 20 2007 10:43 GMT
#33
what would you do if your dog only listens to you if you have food in your hand? Like if i have food, he'd sit, stay, shake, etc. But if he sees i don't have any, he loses interest and wanders off. Also, what do i do if my dog likes to raid trash cans and food on tables? Smart little bugger knows when you're not watching and sneaks into the kitchen and tries to steal food.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12236 Posts
June 20 2007 10:47 GMT
#34
On June 20 2007 19:43 pokeyAA wrote:
what would you do if your dog only listens to you if you have food in your hand? Like if i have food, he'd sit, stay, shake, etc. But if he sees i don't have any, he loses interest and wanders off. Also, what do i do if my dog likes to raid trash cans and food on tables? Smart little bugger knows when you're not watching and sneaks into the kitchen and tries to steal food.


The food is only to ween him off that behavior. Eventually (after about a week or two) he'll start behaving better and you won't have to use food as a bargaining chip.

As for stealing food, that's a little tougher. On the show, they rig a camera on the ceiling and have a remote sound generating device (like an airhorn for example). When the dog tries to steal food while you're watching from the camera, he doesn't know you're watching even though you're not there and so he'll be less inclined to do it after you correct his behavior a few times in that way.
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
June 20 2007 10:52 GMT
#35
Dog obedience can be a really fun exercise, and one of the most rewarding things at the end of the road. You should take it to dog-training sessions, they have them here on weekends in Australia where people can get professional advice etc etc
Oh no
weaksauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
369 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 11:02:04
June 20 2007 10:58 GMT
#36
On June 20 2007 19:43 pokeyAA wrote:
what would you do if your dog only listens to you if you have food in your hand? Like if i have food, he'd sit, stay, shake, etc. But if he sees i don't have any, he loses interest and wanders off. Also, what do i do if my dog likes to raid trash cans and food on tables? Smart little bugger knows when you're not watching and sneaks into the kitchen and tries to steal food.


the guy in the vids i recommended earlier covers this, i thought it was hilarious





also, with the losing interest with the food thing, make sure you do something else to praise along with the food like pet and say "good boy". you'll see the guy also uses the clicker. with conditioning, the sound of the clicker can prove as powerful a reward as the food
even if he DID detect penis - cubEdin
Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
July 08 2007 01:24 GMT
#37
bump cuz I need help again. I tried so many of the things, but the stupid dog deosn't seem to pay attention or understand whats going on.
Fascism is bad......
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
July 08 2007 01:39 GMT
#38
On July 08 2007 10:24 Duffybeer wrote:
bump cuz I need help again. I tried so many of the things, but the stupid dog deosn't seem to pay attention or understand whats going on.


Animals are not stupid, they know what they are doing, if he is not listening to you its because you aren't communicating with him effectively. What have you tried?
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-08 02:16:31
July 08 2007 02:14 GMT
#39
ask m2, he trained his dog pretty well. couldn't get it to use condoms, though.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
Months
Profile Joined July 2005
United States356 Posts
July 08 2007 02:42 GMT
#40
On July 08 2007 11:14 dementus wrote:
ask m2, he trained his dog pretty well. couldn't get it to use condoms, though.

LOL
aka jamel
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
July 08 2007 04:14 GMT
#41
I've never had a dog before, but I always feel bad when I see people training dogs. It's like, dogs have been dominated by men for thousands of years, and they have to obey our commands. I don't feel like I should have the right to make a dog perform for his food.

Eh it's not really a big deal.

Btw, haha Hot_Bid. Did you do a few search->replace scans through that?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-08 06:32:03
July 08 2007 06:26 GMT
#42
micronesia: here in Norway, as in many other countries, there are laws as to what dogs can and cannot do: Since most of us are not presidents or kings, we train our dogs to have a happy life within realistic limits. I mostly don't train my dog anything she don't like to do, except stuff like walking nicely so that we both can enjoy the walk (she would rather not have a leash of course). The last thing my dog learned was finding chantrells. And she likes it almost as searching for people (we seem to "loose" a family member in the woods now and then).

Some nice books:
The other end of the Leash
Don't shoot the dog

Some random tips sine you seem to take some advice here:
- consulting a specialist in dogs near you when you start can help a lot, and it might identify issues the dog already has, since you mentioned hitting it for instance.
- If you have difficulties teaching your dog to walk nicely, and like to run with it as welll, try using a different harness/leash for different purposes. The dog will then better be able to not expect a nice run when you put on its every day "walk nicely" leash/harness/collar. Its equally fun to watch the exitement when you put on the harness for exercise. You don't have to switch all of the gear, we just put on a special scarf for finding chantrells for instance.
- Teaching a dog new behaviour and getting rid of unwanted behavior is extremely difficult if you can't "train" your family to do the right things.
- If you are using positive reinforcement (as you should), you need to establish an order, where you find out what treats are most valuable for your dog. The same with toys and what activites it likes the most. Save these for moments when the dog has had a breakthrough in training, or you need to have something "special".
- even if you use positive reinforcement, you will need to have a "stop" command, to tell your dog to stop doing whatever its doing. It can be a smart thing for this word not to be "stop" or its name. rather use another word you don't say as much, and you don't usually say when annoyed. its explained in many books and courses how to do this.
- don't give your dog chokolade, it is toxic and may harm or kill a dog even with small amounts every day.
- if your dog is chaotic you need to be the calm one. Corrrections, hitting it and shouting at a dog may even increase the misbehaving from your dog. On the other hand, ignoring it when misbehaving, and removing it from the source, or even giving it a timeout in the most boring part of your appartement, can in the long run get rid of it. These things require knowledge and patience, and i would have a dog trainer help me get started.

If you don't like trainers, courses or whatever, books can be a good place to start.
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
July 08 2007 06:45 GMT
#43
do whatever he does to you back to him....if he pees on your stuff pee on him, if hes humping your sister hump him, and if hes running away from you.....run away from him!
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
July 08 2007 06:50 GMT
#44
does the dog post your threads ahahahaha
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
July 08 2007 08:57 GMT
#45
On June 20 2007 14:47 sith wrote:
DO NOT HIT THE DOG. This is the worst thing you can do. Dogs need positive reinforcement for doing good things and then a finger or mean voice to scold it. Some tips:

-Use dog food instead of treats to reward the dog. They take anything given to them by hand as a treat and will be happy to receive anything from you.
- Carry some food EVERYWHERE you go with the dog. Any time the dog obeys give it a treat. For example on walks take a handful of food with you. When the dog is good and stays close feed it some food (treats!). Do this a lot to reinforce that staying with you is good.
-Make up a mean voice that you will ALWAYS use to scold the dog. Never hit him, but point and use a stern voice. Don't yell or scare it, just make sure it understands that it has been bad. Remember, the tone of your voice counts more than what you say. With my dog I can say "YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT DOG ALL DAY I LOVE YOU" in the mean voice and it still is scolding.
- Work on things one at a time, the dog is not going to learn everything at once. For example start with just people skills (if your dog barks when people arrive/leave). Have a friend walk in and out of the house. Tell the dog to be quiet in the stern voice, and give it some food if it is. Work on this for a week or so until it's got that down, then move on to behaving on walks, coming when you tell it etc..... (it's really easy to teach a dog to come).

THEN AFTER you have taught your dog these things you should begin extra training like "Sit, bark, roll over" and stuff.

There are tons of resources on the internet too. Dogs are pretty smart animals, you just have to know how to work with them and not against them.
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