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Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 04:40:27
June 20 2007 04:39 GMT
#1
I just got a new dog an year ago and it was a little pup when I got him. Its a britney spanuel the hunting breed, the nightmare dog to take to walks, the dogs used in hunts or game. Anyways I am having some few problems, I've had him for an year now, and I can't train him. The problem is that my mom says she is too busy to take my dog to a trainer, and she always makes some stupid excuses pointing to how busy she is, and how much time she deosn't have, and how much work she did on a day, so pathetic.

Anyways its up to me to train that stupid dog, the problem is that he is uncontrollable!!!! I have to tie him to a leash everytime I go outside, and whenever I don't he runs off!!!! Deosn't even stay, I have to put him in a cage everyday, because of this. I don't blame him, I don't really like play with him often, although I do take him for walks, where I have to hold him because he is going to run off chasing something. He is a smart dog, he deosn't bite people, he deosn't bark at strangers, he is easy to control after you take him for walks with no training. He deosn't seem like a bad dog at all if you see him. Anyways he deos not listen to me, whenever I have food in my hands and I say "sit", he sits down. Sometime when I hit him he stops but he is chaotic. I can't even send him inside my house or he's going to run around my house and I have to catch him. I can't really give him a proper bath either.

So anyway to the main point, any guidelines, advice, methods you guys with trained dogs can give me on training my new dog?
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TheJakester
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia1 Post
June 20 2007 04:45 GMT
#2
Hmm. Do the caveman thing, dont feel slack, just simply give him a whack immediately after he disobeys an order, and use alot of non verbal communication. Also, it helps to change the tone of your voice when speaking commands to him.
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 04:51:58
June 20 2007 04:51 GMT
#3
Theirs a show on I think TLC National Geographic?, it's called.. ... The Dog Whisperer? It's really good you can pick up some tips their. The shows bascially about a guy comming in and training people's chaotic dogs. You might even be able to get him to come to your house if his crazy enough.
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NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
June 20 2007 04:51 GMT
#4
animals react very well to positive reinforcement. Get a bag of doggy treats, and start telling him things and give him a treat when he even remotely obeys. Then guide his actions a little more specifically, until he eventually connects "sit" with actually sitting down and so forth.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 04:53:58
June 20 2007 04:53 GMT
#5
I'd start with not beating him.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
June 20 2007 04:56 GMT
#6
positive reinforcement for when the dog behaves, and use a stern voice and stare it down whenever it misbehaves. don't use violence
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comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
June 20 2007 05:06 GMT
#7
if he does something bad, use something loud to get his attention, then give him a treat when he stops. after you do that like 20x in row he'll figure it out.
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sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
June 20 2007 05:47 GMT
#8
DO NOT HIT THE DOG. This is the worst thing you can do. Dogs need positive reinforcement for doing good things and then a finger or mean voice to scold it. Some tips:

-Use dog food instead of treats to reward the dog. They take anything given to them by hand as a treat and will be happy to receive anything from you.
- Carry some food EVERYWHERE you go with the dog. Any time the dog obeys give it a treat. For example on walks take a handful of food with you. When the dog is good and stays close feed it some food (treats!). Do this a lot to reinforce that staying with you is good.
-Make up a mean voice that you will ALWAYS use to scold the dog. Never hit him, but point and use a stern voice. Don't yell or scare it, just make sure it understands that it has been bad. Remember, the tone of your voice counts more than what you say. With my dog I can say "YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT DOG ALL DAY I LOVE YOU" in the mean voice and it still is scolding.
- Work on things one at a time, the dog is not going to learn everything at once. For example start with just people skills (if your dog barks when people arrive/leave). Have a friend walk in and out of the house. Tell the dog to be quiet in the stern voice, and give it some food if it is. Work on this for a week or so until it's got that down, then move on to behaving on walks, coming when you tell it etc..... (it's really easy to teach a dog to come).

THEN AFTER you have taught your dog these things you should begin extra training like "Sit, bark, roll over" and stuff.

There are tons of resources on the internet too. Dogs are pretty smart animals, you just have to know how to work with them and not against them.
Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
June 20 2007 06:01 GMT
#9
Thanks for the advice.
Fascism is bad......
lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 06:36:47
June 20 2007 06:36 GMT
#10
yeah never strike the dog. this teaches it to fear you and can lead to problems down the road. not to mention that's probably not the type of relationship with your dog you are looking for

you can try carrying his ration around with you during the day instead of giving it to him, and feed him only when he is obedient or follows a command. he will be hungry and he will make the connection between obeying and being fed. if you do this make sure he gets his entire ration for the day though. you dont want to starve the damn thing.

when he obeys commands 100% you can switch to feeding him and giving him treats when he follows instruction. then you can swap in praise for treats, and finally only praise with occasional treats
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Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
June 20 2007 06:40 GMT
#11
Ok, yeah I made several motions, for him to sit down, and I said "sit" and he seemed to comply a little, I gave him some of his food as a reward and he is seeming to get the idea, although he is still getting distracted now and often, sometimes I made the motion and said sit and it wouldn't sit down, until I had to do it like 40X times.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
June 20 2007 06:42 GMT
#12
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 20 2007 06:43 GMT
#13
Do not beat him.

I have a dog, she is like 2 months old, a Golden Retriever.

She's fucking nuts, she wants to play all the time and she won't stay put for a single second. What I do when she does her needs in a place where she should not, I pick them up, I pick her, and put the poop or w/e in the place I want her to do it, and then say loudly "It's here where you will do this, not there, but HERE!".

She got it right away, she won't poop or take a piss anywhere else now, she makes me run like a fucker, but that is just <3.
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1a2a9a
Profile Joined November 2006
Finland206 Posts
June 20 2007 06:49 GMT
#14
terrible to hit a dog, my mate did it to his dog when he first had it, now the thing can be vicious. has known to bite people if your not careful, and gets into fights with other dogs if he gets near one. your dog will turn out this way if you keep hitting him.

we trained our dog quite well by using these little chocolate drop sweets, they like Cadbury Chocolate Buttons. you get him to give you his paw, and if he does it then you give him a treat, then repeat. he gets the idea that he will get something good when he does what you ask for him.
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
June 20 2007 06:50 GMT
#15
also make sure your dog gets plenty of exercise

a lot of the running away stuff is simply because its bored

45 minutes a day of vigorous exercise will be good for both you and your dog

run your pale geeky ass around the block
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 20 2007 06:55 GMT
#16
On June 20 2007 15:49 1a2a9a wrote:
terrible to hit a dog, my mate did it to his dog when he first had it, now the thing can be vicious. has known to bite people if your not careful, and gets into fights with other dogs if he gets near one. your dog will turn out this way if you keep hitting him.

we trained our dog quite well by using these little chocolate drop sweets, they like Cadbury Chocolate Buttons. you get him to give you his paw, and if he does it then you give him a treat, then repeat. he gets the idea that he will get something good when he does what you ask for him.

I'm pretty sure chocolate can be very toxic for dogs :o I dunno what cadbury chocolate buttons are, maybe they aren't regular chocolate or something, or maybe your dog is just not affected, but I've always been told chocolate + dogs = potentially very dangerous.
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Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
June 20 2007 07:01 GMT
#17
how do you exercise your dog?
Fascism is bad......
lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
June 20 2007 07:05 GMT
#18
put him on a leash and go for a run with him, rollerblade with him

throw ball with him

swim with him

tons of ways
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Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 07:11:28
June 20 2007 07:08 GMT
#19
I go for runs with him, is that good exercise? Or is it just those things that the dog wants to do because its bored? Because he tries to run whenever I go for walks, and I run with him, leash hand to hand.
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 07:17:03
June 20 2007 07:11 GMT
#20
yup dogs really get messed up from chocolate

i trained my dog when she was very young and still learned extremely quickly. we gave small food rewards for good behavior, and eventually replaced the food with petting and approval.

the biggest way we let her know what is good and what is bad is with how we speak to her. teaching your dog to understand the tone of your voice takes very little effort because they're extremely intelligent. basically she understands urgency which she will react instantly to, anger that she will cautiously obey, and encouragement which she will happily respond to. without any tone, she will often acknowledge it by looking at us and then sit down, which is her form of protest when she wants to play outside longer (we usually let her).

don't hit your dog, it really pays off. whenever we playfight or when strangers she doesn't like start to touch her, she grabs people's hands but remembers to never actually bite down.

ps. you don't need a trainer unless your dog is absolutely hopeless. the process is rewarding and really not that hard - you're with your dog most of the day every day. just constantly try to teach him to behave and eventually (unless you have an uncommonly stupid dog) he'll pick up.

as for exercise, if you find running boring for you (or if you're a lazy ass), dribble a soccer ball around in circles while he runs around you trying to get to it, or simply sit in your lawn and throw a ball for him to fetch (if you are a super lazy ass).
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