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ShoCkeyy
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KwarK
United States44439 Posts
On September 09 2021 03:29 ShoCkeyy wrote: Is this the start of the incoming financial crisis everyone has been talking about? lol The one that has been predicted monthly since 2011? | ||
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Vivax
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The 2008 defaults caused big devaluations of the respective currencies. What would spike during a yuan crash (or crash with it)? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers handed down a decision in a closely-watched trial between Apple and Epic Games on Friday. Rogers ordered an injunction that said that Apple will no longer be allowed to prohibit developers from providing links or other communications that direct users away from Apple in-app purchasing, of which it takes 15% to 30% of gross sales. The injunction addresses a longstanding developer complaint and suggests the possibility that developers could direct their uses to their website to subscribe or purchase digital content, hurting Apple’s App Store sales. The decision concludes the first part of the battle between the two companies over Apple’s App Store policies and whether they stifle competition. Apple won on 9 of 10 counts but will be forced to change its App Store policies and loosen its grip over in-app purchases. Rogers said that Apple was not a monopolist and “success is not illegal.” Source Apple is down over 3%. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
On September 11 2021 00:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: you have to go through our store is basically a monopoly...Big news regarding the Epic v Apple: Source Apple is down over 3%. But since they argue they aren't and are just successful I'm sure this policy chance will have no effect on them at all /s. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On September 11 2021 01:29 Gorsameth wrote: you have to go through our store is basically a monopoly... But since they argue they aren't and are just successful I'm sure this policy chance will have no effect on them at all /s. Epic has to pay Apple $4 million. Apple will lose billions in App store revenue. Pretty clear to see who won this war, so not sure why everyone is proud to have supported Apple in this fight. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18488 Posts
On September 11 2021 05:34 LegalLord wrote: Seems fair. I remember the arguments being pretty pro-Apple back when this first started (struggling to remember why at this point), but requiring that 30% toll for using the Apple store seems pretty monopolistic to me. It's a monopoly on Apple phones. Apple doesn't have a monopoly on phones tho. Android is alive and well, and Huawei has their own shit that seems to be doing okay. Do I agree with Apple's store policy? Heck no. But I also own an Android phone, in large part because of that. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 11 2021 06:17 Acrofales wrote: It's a monopoly on Apple phones. Apple doesn't have a monopoly on phones tho. Android is alive and well, and Huawei has their own shit that seems to be doing okay. Do I agree with Apple's store policy? Heck no. But I also own an Android phone, in large part because of that. I mean, that sounds a lot like saying "don't like Microsoft's behavior with Internet Explorer? Just use Mac/Linux/etc instead!" back in the browser wars era. The Apple ecosystem is a bit too important for simply boycotting it to be a viable option, not to mention that it tends to be copied by competitors if effective. I won't pretend to have a full understanding of the issue here (which seems to be fairly subtle legally), and this evidently isn't a huge win for either party. But the iOS platform has a bit too much pull for "their platform, their rules" to be a good standard. They hold enough pull to exert monopolistic pressure, and that has to be regulated. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18488 Posts
On September 11 2021 07:41 LegalLord wrote: I mean, that sounds a lot like saying "don't like Microsoft's behavior with Internet Explorer? Just use Mac/Linux/etc instead!" back in the browser wars era. The Apple ecosystem is a bit too important for simply boycotting it to be a viable option, not to mention that it tends to be copied by competitors if effective. I won't pretend to have a full understanding of the issue here (which seems to be fairly subtle legally), and this evidently isn't a huge win for either party. But the iOS platform has a bit too much pull for "their platform, their rules" to be a good standard. They hold enough pull to exert monopolistic pressure, and that has to be regulated. Sure, but at the time Windows was the OS for over 90% of PCs. Apple is nowhere near 90% of the market of smartphones. Also, M$ aggressively pushed existing competitors (Netscape) out of the market with how they basically locked MIE in as default browser (unless you jumped through hoops, which I did). MIE lost the browser wars hard and had marginal market share until it got aggressively marketed with Windows. Apple store was set up to be monopolistic from the very beginning. If you bought an iPhone it was clear you were locked into the Apple ecosystem which was 100% controlled by Apple. It isn't really the same situation. Not that I really care too much. Apple getting taken down doesn't do much for me either way. Just pointing out that any kind of anti-monopoly case is going to be a LOT harder to argue in this situation. | ||
Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 11 2021 08:02 Acrofales wrote: Not that I really care too much. Apple getting taken down doesn't do much for me either way. Just pointing out that any kind of anti-monopoly case is going to be a LOT harder to argue in this situation. But this is the real issue. Apple is getting taken down a peg while the big console makers do the exact same thing, but skate by for some reason. I'd love for Apple to start selling their phones at a loss just to see what Epic does in response. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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cha0
Canada518 Posts
On September 11 2021 03:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Epic has to pay Apple $4 million. Apple will lose billions in App store revenue. Pretty clear to see who won this war, so not sure why everyone is proud to have supported Apple in this fight. From what I have read the court case only has made it so Apple must allow Epic to use their own payment processor/method. Apple can still charge the same commission per sale 30% or w/e they set. So don't think Apple will lose that much, just the cost of invoicing/tracking the payment method Epic uses. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Emnjay808
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{CC}StealthBlue
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pebble444
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8942 Posts
On September 19 2021 17:24 pebble444 wrote: How do I invest money to get back a small return of it every month, while keeping intact the main sum, at a low risk? technically a savings account in a bank fits your description | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/19/business/china-evergrande-debt-protests.html And according to Barclays they have yet to finish building 1.6 million properties for buyers. | ||
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